PAVLOS MELAS RECOGNIZE EXISTING OF ETHNIC MACEDONIANS

[megalolamogio]

Εμείς ποτέ δεν είπαμε ότι δεν είχε Σλάβους στη Μακεδονία. Και εβραίους είχε , και Τούρκους και από όλα. ΕΜΕΙΣ ΛΕΜΕ ΟΤΙ ΑΦΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ! ΤΕΛΟΣ!

[macedonianimation]

watch?v=NMHk0h2KG3Y

[HellenicFighter]

haha Stupid Propaganda FYROMIANS ARE BULGARIANS and MACEDONIA IS GREEK

[drumercoka]

@HellenicFighter just te your wish like always like the time when you made genocide over our macedonians you hated this word 15 years ago like the devil and now you are bigest macedonians from us hahahaha

no way only one truth only one makedonija

makedonija na makedoncite

[HellenicFighter]

@drumercoka

Genocide? really? Since when have we done something? and did not own??), who is Macedonian?? You the Slavs :D ?? I did not know that now suddenly, the Macedonians are Slavs and not Greeks :D

I think you have to be very confused with what you say ;)

[drumercoka]

@HellenicFighter dont be such a poor liar all world know about your genocide ask you grandfather he will tell you

and you have nothing with macedonians you are just ugly gayreeks nothing else

[HellenicFighter]

@drumercoka

The whole world? Hmm I think you've played too loud drums and your brain ruined;) I asked my grandfather, he says the Macedonians are Greeks, he knows no genocide:)) why do you insult? you can not talk normally or something:)

Really i have nothing to do with Macedonians? That will tell me a Slav: D

I have one question to you is the name Macedonia Greek or not? ;)

[drumercoka]

@HellenicFighter yes i plyed drums louds but the problem is not in my brain in my soul is you made mistakes against macedonians and now you denied all that you asked your grandpa i dont thinks so and he of course dont tell you the truth take from the both sides when you will see this then we can talk and i can talk normaly with someone who can understand me and obvious you dont 

[HellenicFighter]

@drumercoka We refuse nothing, but there never was a genocide, it was the Greek civil war, was then attacked each of the fighting on the side of the Greek Communists

So you can not say it was a genocide, because Greeks were also killed.Today many Greek children living in FYROM from the Civil War,and many of you have Greek ancestry. I have friends from Skopje, Prilep, Strumica and Bitola from which they themselves have to say Greek Roots.

[palmier25]

unitedmaced  YOU ARE ONLY SLAV MURDERS FROM VARDASKA ! ! ! !

[EsyMoyPiresToMyalo]

axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa poso gelioi eisaste telika... elate na parete tin makedonia mas me tetoia epixirimata... ahahahahahahahahahahahha

[fefassss]

Bre asxetiles anistoritoi. Afou sta sxoleio ths Makedonias mas, eixate steilei praktores kai mathenan ta paidia tin palioglossa sas, ti thelate na milan? parola ayta gnorizan oti htan Ellines.

Eseis eiste kai tha eiste palioskopianoi.

[cajceto]

odlicno video

[noaudito]

Organizatsiite na "etnicheskite makedontsi" plashtat po 20 tsenta (v Amerika ili ekvivalenta v drougi durzhavi) na poshtenski plik na bezrabotni hora, kakvito sega ima mnogo poradi ikonomicheskata kriza. Motivirani ot parichna nouzhda i raboteyki ot doma si, tezi hora izprashtat po poshtata informatsiya, sudurzhashta nay-bezsramni luzhi i kleveti, podstrekavashti omraza sreshtou Gurtsiya i Bulgariya.

[GreekPower1987]

wx thee mou auti i parapiisi istorias einai apisteuti.. prospathoun na piastoun apo tin kathe saxlamara.. bebaia fisiko einai otan den exeis apodeikseis.. prota apo ola otan elegan makedones ennoousan fisika ellines makedones.. kai otan elege milisan makedonika kai simera leme autos milaei pontiaka... ti simainei diladi auto? oti ta pontiaka den einai ellinika?? oxi apla einai alli dialekto.. elliniki men.. alla alli dialekto.. MACEDONIAN TO MACEDONIANS (OF COURSE GREEK)

[MacedonianCooPer]

pooo prodaeno nesto .. da ti ebam plemeto

[babouras123]

Nice video, but when we say Macedonian we mean greek (I am referring to 0:21). In 0:39 you do not make clear who the text means by "they". This "Dobro vetser" cannot possibly mean "Macedonian" in 0:57. There were a number of fighters who fought on the Greek side, and were slavophone (Bulgarian language). these people were Greek by conviction.

Since you are referring to the early 20ieth century, can you show us a document in "Macedonian" (NOT Bulgarian)?

[kostasvolos11]

the fact that they asked for the autonomy of macedonia,was only the prologue for the unification with greece.there is something called politics born in ancient greece but I do not expect you mongolslavians to have even heard about it.Could anyone of you explain to me why all ancient findings in the holly MACEDONIAN land are written in greek and why all MACEDONIAN names are greek? is it because MACEDONIANS ARE GREEK? get a life and make a history.. cause you cannot have ours.

[keeperholder]

yeh yeh and then you woke up

[Retelas]

nice GREEK music, though

[Wiligot]

Stupid GREEK shit

[Retelas]

kai o Kapetan Kottas den eixere ellinika alla SAS GAMISE, kai otan ton kremagan oi Turkoi xepsyxise fonazontas sta Bulgarika: ZITO I ELLADA

[Playboytaxi]

Koga VMRO go ubili Pavlos Melas ,poslednite mu zborove bili -"Jiv Bulgarin da ne ostane."

[mctolisCORFU]

totally fake what is in that video. macedonia is part of GREECE since ancient times, when vardashians didnt excist even

[bobo87mk]

even the king Constantine of Athens recognized that the Athenians are minority in Aegean Macedonia in 1913!

[MAKGIRL333]

What else you can expect of Athenians like this one below, only stupid comments!

Ha, ha,ha!

Mad???????????????

[Ellinasforever]

Just Gypsies again...FYROMIANS YOU SUCK LIKE AIDS!

[vodenec]

Ellinastsiyyanoi!gamo to moyni pou se petaje palio arxidi ,e malaka

[Retelas]

vodenec

se gamaei o PapaTsarknias munopano

[Wiligot]

Nagamisu ti manasai,eliniki pouthana LOL

[Retelas]

ti LOL re munopano tou kerata?

I gamiaésai i den gamiesai

den exei LOL

PS: Tin poutana tin Bulgara tin mana sou tin exume gamisei ouk oliges fores

[Wiligot]

Pouthana Eliniki,hahaha

[ipokratis1]

If you wanna see some documents take a visa,pass the borders and go visit Pella,Vergina and the Archaelogical Museum of Thessaloniki to see with your own eyes who the Macedonians were.

[EsyMoyPiresToMyalo]

ellinosporos paidia...

[Hirohito3]

By that meaning you can send me not 250 but even 1250 documents talking about some 'Macedonians', who, by the way, I read in your documents, they fought WITH Bugarians against the Turks, but in an other article, they really happy seeing Greek corps entering the macedonian territory in order to protect them from the turkish & bulgarian attrocities. Those documents contradict each other, don't they?

[Hirohito3]

Gladstone reproduced the slogan of the bulgarian propaganda 'Macedonia for the Macedonians'. Bulgarians wanted Macedonia to become a second E.Rumelia, so they used this slogan.If they had made it, you would be a proud Bulgarian, as many of your compatriots, who have bulgarian passports.Your documents are same as the previous and you can explain them they way I've already done.

[mikegrecia]

alexander or paulos melas know better if macedonians was greeks or not???

you call yourselves macedonians when all

the world knows that you are slavs???

[mikegrecia]

ALEXANDER THE GREAT:

"For As Hellenes (Greeks) we should

not be slaves to barbarians."

Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15.1-4>

[mikegrecia]

you think that paulos melas know ancient history???

they call themselfes macedonians and that's why

call them macedonians. but they was bulgarians.

paulos melas wasn't historian he was only a soldier,

alexander said for himself many many times that he

was greek.

[vodenec]

εσενα οι προγονοι σου μιλουσαν σλαβικα, οι βλαχοι αρωμανικα, και οι αρβανιτες αλβανικα και οι μητρικη γλωσσα των ποντιων πριν τους

εξελληνισουν οι "αγιοι" πατερες σας ποιος ξερει τι ηταν...

γιαλανζι ντολμα αρχαιοι ελληνες εισαστε ολοι..

[makedonas82]

Όταν ο Σέρβος ηγεμόνας Στέφανος Δουσάν κατέλαβε την βυζαντινή επαρχία της Μακεδονίας, ονόμασε το βασίλειό του «βασίλειο Σέρβων και Ελλήνων» όχι «Σέρβων και Μακεδόνων».

[vodenec]

abe odi ebi se so Turskite cigane , Malaka pitaj go dedoti sto e gomno pogrceno

[unitedmaced]

да живеат Тасос Костопулос и Георгиос Пецивас :-)))

[unitedmaced]

о сотај тоја и Лаки Пирзас е Македонец, исто како и Коте, Вангел, Геле, Симо...

ама од тие лошите, купените со литите на Каравангелис

[vodenec]

Σύμφωνα λοιπόν με την μαρτυρία του Χατζητάση ο Μελάς άφησε αβοήθητους τον Βολάνη με την ομάδα του γιά να μη φανερωθή η δική του κρυψώνα. Πράγματι το σπίτι που κρυβόταν ο Μελάς δεν περικυκλώθηκε από τους Τούρκους. Οταν νύχτωσε κατέβηκε από την εσωτερική σκάλα στο ισόγειο γιά να ανιχνεύσει καλλίτερα το γύρο μέρος. Κρατούσε όπως πάντα την τσάντα με τις λίρες και πίσω του ακολουθούσε ο Λάκης Πύρζας με το όπλο προτεταμένο. Οι υπόλοιποι τρεις άντρες παρέμειναν επάνω.

[Hirohito3]

Το copy-paste από το bulgarmak πάει σύννεφο!!!

Δεν έχεις προσέξει ότι στο κείμενο δεν υπάρχει ούτε μία παραπομπή? Αυτός είπε ... Εκείνος φαντάστηκε ... ο άλλος άκουσε ...

κι εσύ ονειρεύεσαι ... Εσύ τουλάχιστον διαβάζεις ελληνικά, όχι σαν τον άλλον, που λέει ότι ο Μελάς ήταν από τη Σικελία, αυτός δικαιολογείται.

[vodenec]

Hirohito3 !!1 Ti si prodadena dusa be, u grcija ako kases deka si makedonec, oi Neoelliniki Gestapo ne te ostava na mira da spies,taka li e,, ako sakas da prais biznis treba da se kazuvas Grk , jas sum bil po cela Egejska Makedonija ! znam koj zivee tamuu!!

[vodenec]

Το 1927, είκοσι τρία χρόνια μετά τον θάνατο του Μελά, έγινε μνημόσυνο στην Σιάτιστα με πρωτοβουλία του "Μακεδονομάχου" Τσόντου Βάρδα. Στο μνημόσυνο παραβρέθηκε και ο Πέτρος Χατζητάσης που βρισκόταν κρυμένος μαζί με τον Μελά στο διόροφο σπίτι , ο οποίος και έκανε αναπαράσταση του γεγονότος.

[vodenec]

Paulos Melas! ne go ubile Turcite , go ubile  negovite drugari za da mu gi zemat parite sto gi nosel so nego ,

[unitedmaced]

мислис на Лаки Пирза или на Дина

еден од нив после овој настан замина за Америка :-)))

[vodenec]

Lakis Pirgas go ubil

[Hirohito3]

Ova sho veli vodenec, go veli eden bugarin od voden, sho ne znae dali e bugarin ili makedonec. Ako sakate, mozete da veruvate na coek, sho veli oti site vasi heroi bea bugari.

[VMROmakedonka]

se sobrale grkomani...

[vodenec]

Ακόμα και σήμερα τα παιδιά των Γρεκών εξακολουθούν να διδάσκονται, όπως και οι γονείς τους, γιά τον¨"Μακεδονομάχο" Παύλο Μελά και τον "ηρωϊκό του θάνατο" , σε μάχη κατά των Τούρκων. Ομως στην Σιάτιστα και τα γύρο χωριά, οι γεροντότεροι αγρότες μιλούν ακόμα ψυθιριστά γιά τον πισώπλατο φόνο του Αρχηγού από δικό του άνθρωπο που άρπαξε την τσάντα με τις λίρες

[vodenec]

!!Παύλος Μελάς:! Η σφαίρα που τον σκότωσε ήταν Ελληνική!!!!!

Πέρασαν πάνω από εκατό χρόνια από τον θάνατο του "εθνομάρτυρα" Παύλου Μελά. Η εκ των υστέρων κατασκευασμένη μαρτυρία του Πύρζα περί ηρωϊκού θάνατου του Αρχηγού από αδέσποτο τουρκικό βόλι, εξακολουθεί να αποτελεί την επίσημη ελληνική εκδοχή.

[redrougegirl]

za ovoj:

Dear "Greeks" surely you have visited the Museum of the Greek Struggle in Macedonia . Did you read in Pavlos Melas letters to his wife that he was learning some "Makedonika (Macedonian)" because the women generally did not know Greek. It is important to note that he did not write Bulgarian nor Serbian nor Slavic.HE WROTE MACEDONIAN!

greek bastards f*uck off already!

Abe vodenec,koj te slusa,ovie "grci" uste sto k*r ne se!da,da "anticki Grci"-hahahahaha

[Hirohito3]

devojce,

Is is good for you, being a patriot making a search and finding documents about the history of Macedonia, especially at your age. i didn't expect you would have read ancient greek texts (even translated). But you explain the greek texts from your point of you. This way you are lead to mistakes. To make a good start, mind that in ancient years there were no ethnic states. the first ehnic states were established in the Middle Ages. So, mind that first and keep on studying your history.

[vodenec]

nema ni za lek Grk ,,ima Arvanitis (ortodoxsos Alvanos) Vlaxos( Romanos) Turski ortodoxos  cigani,(begalci od Mikri Asia 1922 dojdoa vo Makedonija , Makedonci,,i Grkomani pustis sto se ebat za lefta so Ciganite,

[redrougegirl]

To Hirohito3."Grku"I know very well who my ancestors were,and the facts are as clear as day.I'll send you a newspaper document in a message,cause i can't write it down in a comment here.

[Hirohito3]

redrougegirl, I have replied with 7 newspaper documents (actually I've found 15, never mind...next time)from the same website you have visited. Be ready for a looooong reading.

[redrougegirl]

To Hiroto,i replied to you with foreign newspaper documents also(i sent you a little bit but i have found more than 250 foreign newspapers documents and counting)Be ready for braking your childish Disneyland with the TRUTH!

And also i'll ask every Greek for this:What Gladstone said"...why not a Macedonia for the Macedonians as well as a Serbia for the Serbians and Bulgaria for the Bulgarians...",which Macedonians do you think he was referring to,you numskulls?

[redrougegirl]

Абе што е ова?Врие тука од Македонски предавници или некои што се преправаат-hirohito3 и makedonas82-ЈУДИ!

За колку сребреници ја продадовте вашата крв!?!

Ova za Pavlos Melas sekoj grk(ama krijat od pomladite generacii) znae za pismata sto i prakal na zena mu.

[unitedmaced]

девојко

а кријат и уте еден факт за нив, кој ќе биде погубен за нивната идеологија

Всушност станува збор дека тој е АЛБАНЕЦ

нековиот псевдоним ЗЕЗАС на лбански значи ЦРН

а и МЕЛАс на грчки значи ЦРН

значи од само си го преведил своето презиме на својот мајчин албаснки јазик

[redrougegirl]

hahahahahaha,ova me potsetuva na Kastas Karamanlis,na turski kara znaci crn,a vo prevod karamanlis,crn otepan covek....hahahahahaha,ej abe kaj mi e drugiot komentar?

[unitedmaced]

кој друг коментар?

Инаку Павлос Мелас е роден во Сицилија, кда во 16-17 век има масовно населување на Албанци

а во книгата на Павлос Мелас напишана од Наталија Мела, неговата жена, на едно место пишува: „тврдоглавата арнаутска глава на павлос не го дозволуваше тоа".

поздрав

[Hirohito3]

Koga i peis grckite knigi, treba na znajs grcki dobro. Kaj a vide Sicilija? Melas se rodil u Massalija!! Tatko mu bil eden bogat Grk od Ioannina. Sicilija, ha ha! Drukjo pat da ni dajs pravi informacii.

Pozdrav.

[unitedmaced]

a vo janina Grci da ne ziveea?

site se tie albanci

samo grcizirani

isto kako ti so si sega grcizairan

[Hirohito3]

pitaj go nekoj od Jannina, da ti kazi dali e albanec ili Grk. Ne ke mi kazis ti koji zivat u mojata zemja. Ako sakas da najdis albanci, oj na Tetovo i Gostivar i ke najdis nogu.

dali i tie se 'albanizirani'??

ha ha ha!

[unitedmaced]

Procitaj ja Natalija Mela 1926 godina knigata

i se ke ti bide jasno

koga doagaat vo Prespa

zosto Alekos Kondulis zboruva vo edno albansko selo na svojot najcin jazik (albasnkiot), toa vi pismo go pisuva Pavlos do Mela...

Markos Bocaris i toj da ne Grk?

Samiot paparigopulos priznal deka vo Grcija vo 183o godina zivee najmnogu slovensko i labansko naslenie

ne si ja znaete istorijata

a paparigopulos e tatkot na modernata grcka istorija

procitaj malku

ti si makedonec i nisto poveke

[Hirohito3]

Ja imam knigata na Natalia Mela.Kondylis bil 'arvanitis', demek Grk sho zborval i grcki i 'arvanitika'. Taka, Bocaris bil Grk. Ne se otepil za albanija, oti nemal albantski narot togaj, ama za slobodata na Grcija u grad Karpenisi. Paparigopoulos ne priznal 'albantsi', ama 'arvanites', demek 'albanian speaking'. Za slovenskoto naselenie u Grcija pak nemas pravo, oti vo 1830 granicata na Grcija bile u Lamia (Tessalija). Nikoga nemase sloveni tamo. Paparigopoulos ne go pisal nikade ovo.

[Hirohito3]

Znajs malce Grcka istorijografija, ama poarno da kupis neshcho grcka kniga za da vidis sho e pisano u istata kniga,i ne da peis samo u internet, oti tamo pisuvat sho sakat.

[kolkotolko]

абе вие макета страшна логика вкарвате тука :))) значи ли тогава дека Владо ЧЕРНОземски си е българин щото явно не е ЦЪРНОземски ??? :)))

[redrougegirl]

1@колкотолко

Твоето незнаење и омраза спрема Македонците е сосема непотребна и безцелна.Сепак сме на кратко време на ова парче земја сите ние,и одлучувам да бидам паметната личност овде и прекинам.Сметам подобро е да се шири љубов, него злоба.

[redrougegirl]

2@колкотолко

Зашто ништо не се постигнува од омраза.Тебе гневот и љубомората те јадосува,ах?

п.с. Мој личен пријател е роднина на Владо Црноземски,и се изјаснува себеси како и за својот предок, како Македонец,а не Бугарин.

пријатно

[kolkotolko]

@redrougegirl-согласен съм за омразата що го велиш.

и една бележка само- не е Владо Црноземски туку ЧЕРНОземски. От фалшификации на историята никой нема полза, най-малкото па македонците ;)

[vodenec]

makedonas82 !εσενα οι προγονοι σου μιλουσαν σλαβικα, οι βλαχοι αρωμανικα, και οι αρβανιτες αλβανικα και οι μητρικη γλωσσα των ποντιων πριν τους

εξελληνισουν οι "αγιοι" πατερες σας ποιος ξερει τι ηταν...

γιαλανζι ντολμα αρχαιοι ελληνες εισαστε ολοι..

[skopje762]

slusham kaj shumat BUKITE...

...VISTINATA za MAKEDONIJA k'e POBEDI !!!

[Hirohito3]

bravo re makedonas82!!!kynhga toys opou tous briskeis!!!

ima samo edna makedonija. Grckata!

Pozdrav od grcko Lerinsko.

[unitedmaced]

hirohito

ti si makedonski izrod, ako si makedonec, nemoze da bides GRK, sis e izlazal glupo.

Lirin nikoga ne bilo grcko, Grcite sakaat Lerin na sil da bide grcki grad...

[Hirohito3]

Ne ke mi go kazis ti ili drugite fyromci, sho sum. Majkata sho me rodi e Grkinka, Grk sum!

Oni sho kazvat, oti lugjeto na egejska Makedonija ne se Grci, treba da naucat, oti site nie sme Grci makedonci i ke umreme Grci.

[unitedmaced]

masko

prasaj ja majakti i od kaj go znae jazikot na koj ti pisuvas?

prasaj dali nejziniot dedo ili baba znaele grcki da zborat?

Majkati ne e kriva, nitu si ti kriv so neznaes deka si Makedonec i deka Makedoncite ne se Grci, za toa e kriva grckata propaganda (crkva, Skolo)

[MacedonianCooPer]

Ti ako bese Grk ke pisese makedonski ? Pooooooooooooo ti si mizerija be nevidena. . . ti si cist primer na predavnik.. ili pak si grk koj nasol prevod i sere odpojke!

[Hirohito3]

Ti i drugite mozete da velete so sakate.

Ako jaska nesum Grk, i ti nesi 'makedonec'.

[MacedonianCooPer]

Jih su tu be bolen eden. Ti od kaj zbnajs Makedonski da pisis be kjor eden prodaena dusa edna .. mizerija edna belosvedska

[vodenec]

Hirohito3 !!!!1 ποτε οι βλαχοι, αρβανιτες, λαζοι

και εσυ, γινατε ελληνες.

ποτε?

[vodenec]

Hirohito3 !ποτε οι βλαχοι, αρβανιτες, λαζοι

και εσυ, γινατε ελληνες.

ποτε?

[Hirohito3]

Από τότε που εσύ ξημεροβραδιάζεσαι στο bulgarmak!

[makedonas82]

endopios eimai.oti sou grafo einai afigiseis tis baboo,ta 'makedonika' i 'edopika' einai dialektos apo polles xores opou omiloutan kata tin toyrkiki katoxh tis makedonias.oi endopioi den mporousan na omiloun ellinika kai etsi epikratise ayti i dialektos.

pes mou ti simainei MAKEDONIA?KSEREIS?snais?

[vodenec]

makedonas82 !!!!εσενα οι προγονοι σου μιλουσαν σλαβικα, οι βλαχοι αρωμανικα, και οι αρβανιτες αλβανικα και οι μητρικη γλωσσα των ποντιων πριν τους

εξελληνισουν οι "αγιοι" πατερες σας ποιος ξερει τι ηταν...

γιαλανζι ντολμα αρχαιοι ελληνες εισαστε ολοι..

[makedonas82]

BEGA OU TOUKA BOULGARSTE NA MAKEDONIA...MAKEDONIA EDNA GRCIA!!!!!

the word makedonika determines geographical linguistic property,never ethnic language.why these people didn't write this property?ahahahah stop propaganda!

[unitedmaced]

vlepo kseroume makedonika na milame

brvo gia esena !!!

[makedonas82]

VLEPO ksereis na milas kala ellinika...mpravo milas tin glosa ton progonon sou!!!oi arxaioi makedones itan ellines . milousan ellinika kai egrafan ellinika....oles oi epigrafes ton makedonon einai sta ellinika kai oxi sta 'makedonika' .AYTH EINAI H ALITHEIA!!!

[unitedmaced]

esi milas makedonika, glosa ton diko sou progon.

giagia mou kai papou mou zisane stin ellda mexri 1981 ke pote den ematan na milousan ellinika, mono ikseran na milane makedonika kai tourkika.

Esi pedi apo Seres ise?

[makedonas82]

ti simainei i leksi makedonika?ayti i dialektos den einai makedonika,oi makedones milousan mono ellinika,ta 'makedonika' pou les einai boulgarika tourkika servika kai liga ellinika,pote den itan episimi glossa kai den exoun grafei

ksereis ti simainei i MAKEDONIA?to ksereis apo pou proerxetai?

apo veria eimai

[unitedmaced]

an ise endopios, rotise i giagai sou ti glosa milane dikate progones?

avto pio to les gia tin makedonika glosa ke ethnos ine mono ellinika propaganda. Olo to kosmo anagnorizi makedonika glosa ke etnos, mono esi apodrhnite na to anagnorizete afto