SFIII: 3rd Strike - Issei Kumite [Part 1]

[Baronight]

@Khachik2003

Urien is only hard on the charge partition... by default, urien is easy to use once you master that technique and abuse it...

and no, you no need to think one step ahead,.. most urien player will get the tendency to hold down-backward, and anything after that is up to you to mix around and combo

the hardest character to use in this game is 12, not only you need to be fast in flying around, but you need great skill in mind game to master 12 air superiority...

[his1nightmare]

@Baronight Except the fact that Urien can also easily win matches without perfectly partition anything, regular buffering is enough for the most Urien players (tackle>tackle>f.mp). His priorities are high, his mix up game good and his launcher one of the best in the game, fast, cancelable and safe. Additionally he has the highest default health gauge.

Only someone without any kind of knowledge would say Urien is in any way hard to play.

Remy/Twelve win, Remy just needs 50 times better execution.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare anything you say is completely irrelevant if you think urien's launcher is safe. He also doesn't have the highest health. Remy isn't hard to use he just sucks. You don't need to partition all the time with remy either. Scrubs think every shitty character is automatically super advanced for some reason

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Cool, absolutely nothing you wrote is anywhere right, gg.

Except the fact how you play Remy, but it's up to you if you rely on mix up using partitions or pokes, but someone like you shouldn't be asked what is harder to see coming I guess.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare Remy doesn't take harder execution, urien's launcher is -10 on block, hugo and a taunted q have more health than urien. Knowledge is power

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 You are so limitlessly idiotic you monstrously religious super jew.

Almost every halfway damaging combo, even some bnbs of Remy consist of 1-framers, even something as easy as c.mp>hp lov.

Urien's launcher is cancellable into safe moves, every move which is cancellable into something safe -is- safe.

I wrote default health, google for the word default, now.

And if you are already listing your idiocy, at least don't forget about Chun Li.

Don't dare to appear before me again, god.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare Cr. mp>hp lov is a cancel not a one frame link. Urien's moves aren't safe on block, not even his specials. Like i said, hugo has more health. Thank you for trying your hardest to spread misinformation, i can handle it now.

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Dude, really, it's hard not to respond to someone with SUCH A SMALL BRAIN.

Can you think for ONE SECOND the next time you are going to write down any kind of your muslim amaurotic idiocy?

I wrote 1-framer, nothing about links, it -is- a 1-framer and I'm not going to waste any time explaining why to someone who can't understand anyway.

Hugo has LESS health.

fuck you

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare It's not a 1 framer. How are you even defining 1 frame? Cancelabilty window? Hugo has 100 more health on the 3s scale of it.

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Lol, I checked now again and you were actually right, Hugo has more health, no one will ever know why I remembered this wrongly. Sorry and thanks.

In reward I will answer your question.

There are no special moves which will not connect if you cancel some frames later than you can after a connected normal, Remy's actually do. You have to cancel it on the first frame possible.

Yes, this is not within the actual definition of a 1-framer. But it needs certainly a more precise execution

[his1nightmare]

Indeed Urien's headbutt and tackle are unsafe on block, but you can go for a low/high mix up using the taunt which pushes the opponent too far away in -any- case for a punish, except if it's Chun Li with meter. Also his projectile is safe too, but noone uses it and still -spams- c.hp>anything, why? Because despite disadvantage it's nowhere less or more safe than anything else you can spam with actual high tiers (hayate, c.s.hk of Chun, ...).

And if you post shit again, I won't respond anymore.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare I like how you try to make up new things every time I post actual numbers instead of just random opinions like you.

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 I just post truth and every analysis of any tournament video would prove it.

And even if we would start talking of real 1 frame links or certain charge combinations which allow an exact time window of 1 frame to work, Remy's combos just are built of 1-framers, this does not apply for not even one other character. Though Necro features some similar, while still way easier due to the number of different moves to execute, corner combos.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare remy's cr mp has 4 active frames. Remy's combo's aren't "built of 1 framers".

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Cancelling it on the 2nd frame after the freeze ends results in no combo.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare That's fine but you don't have to do the cancel in 1 frame. That would be hard. You can buffer it like stupid easy

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Yes.. you have the freeze frames, as I wrote, does not change what I also wrote before, Remy needs certainly a more precise exeuction compared to all other characters.

To go further, anything beyond Remy's bnb's (i.e. j.hp>c.s.hp>hk RRF), is so strict that no one even tries it (c.hp>lk cbk>hk RRF)(though I can't explain why... that hard this one combo isn't). And corner loops aren't made for humans at all. This is nowhere comparable to the corner loops of SF4 with Guile.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare Corner loops are hard yes. The reason nobody tries that combo is because the flash kick or the cbk has to be kara'd. Not positive which one. I'm happy you finally got rational and stopped insulting me. I was never wrong

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Neither needs any kara, people only leave it out to not possibly fail, even if they set up the combo in a way where both links are no 1-framers and position is all perfect, they still don't do it, and this I will never understand why, there is no logical explanation except no one is capable of playing Remy anywhere perfectly.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare maybe in the corner they don't. Outside the corner on 90% of the characters it requires a flash kick kara'd with standing strong

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 This you meant.. I wasn't speaking of this setup. The characters it does not work on regularly every Remy player knows and obviously won't try it, but people actually never try it, neither in the corner, nor midscreen, against no characters and especially not when they set it up in a way everything would connect without karas. I know when it is going to connect and when not, but all what I see is that no one tries it under any circumstance.

[trizizzle032]

@his1nightmare well that i won't argue. Good day sir.

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 Have a nice day.

[his1nightmare]

@trizizzle032 In fact you weren't wrong on frame-disadvantages, but still Urien's c.hp is just one more safe thing to spam all day in all levels of gameplay because of the reasons written above, and that 3 of his 5 possible uses are actually unsafe on block does not make it in all definitions an unsafe way to attempt a combo.

And Remy just needs by far the most precise spacing due to his priorities, is one of the hardest characters to keep up mind games and has combos as I described.

[wally1202]

hey Shend! When will you upload some Kuroda Kumite games??? we need that shit!

[nemoooed]

If any of the people that are arguing have only played a few weeks or hell even a few months and think they have an opinion about the game/characters please stop and level up before you talk about this stuff.

[RaishinX]

every comment other than this one is probably fucking retarded

[dumba989]

@RaishinX You know it's coming already

[Shintroy]

Dont watch if you dont like Ken an/d/or Yun

[59hitman]

i miss makoto match ups, im getting sick of the yun and urien match ups, wheres the makoto and ibuki players?? and all the low tier match ups, sigh........

[Khachik2003]

@59hitman how can you get sick of urien? hes the hardest character to use in the game and is fun to watch when played right

[his1nightmare]

@Khachik2003 Urien is by far not, cool level of experience bro.

[Khachik2003]

@his1nightmare speak english next time, I dont understand retard language

[his1nightmare]

@Khachik2003 nice brain

[AlexxShadenk777]

@Khachik2003 Who the fuck is stupid enough to thumbs up such a remark; since WHEN is Urien the *hardest* character to use? Go and play SF3 longer than 5 minutes, man.

[strafer]

@AlexxShadenk777 Since the game came out.

[Khachik2003]

@AlexxShadenk777 you're a complete retard. Who's the hardest then? Yun? Makoto? Q? Yun is easy once you master one bnb combo and makoto is just as easy. With urien you always have to think one step ahead. Man why am I even responding to you, you're obviously a moron

[AlexxShadenk777]

@Khachik2003 No I'm not, and the hardest character to use right is Remy.

[derekmok]

@AlexxShadenk777

No. The hardest characters to use right are Elena, Sean, and Twelve..

[Khachik2003]

@AlexxShadenk777 Remy is not the hardest character to use, he's just hard to win with because he's crap. He has no combos to speak of,his normals are bad, and he has trouble building meter. You mean to tell me he's harder to learn than Yun and Urien?

[AlexxShadenk777]

@Khachik2003 Oh wow, I haven't read a post this wrong in years, basically since before the holocaust.

Remy has PLENTY of combos, they all just need 100 times better execution than any other character in the cast, and not only he needs to charge and partition basically the whole time, he's also a zoning character, meaning he also relies on moving in and away from the opponent. Of course he's the hardest one to use right. You have no perception about what's hardest.

[Khachik2003]

@AlexxShadenk777 blah blah blah blah I never play remy but I can probably mop the floor with your urien

case closed

[AlexxShadenk777]

@Khachik2003 Blah blah blah, you can't say ANYTHING right, and probably should get off the internet before you say anymore stupidity, the end. Cool story bro.

[Khachik2003]

@AlexxShadenk777 Did not read. Stop replying as im not reading anything you write

[AlexxShadenk777]

@Khachik2003 Of course you didn't, ignorant jew.

[diewplz]

@uniquewiz Of course, I'm sure you're more skilled than Issei, Yakkun, Boss and Nuki.

[koufdell]

@diewplz thx bro you've done the job :kickin noob's ass

[uniquewiz]

16 minutes of not-so-high-skilled yun vs ken matches. just to save you the time

[ltrizzle84]

@uniquewiz Thanks bro.

[needcollegeloan]

@uniquewiz . . . 

[Judgementxxx]

@uniquewiz yeah... sorry I can't even finish what I was going to say. Not so high skilled my arse.