@44448a With the exception of the new film, I don't think Star Trek is generally in the same genre as Star Wars, they're pretty different. Star Wars is generally a little higher in raw entertainment value and of course production values, though I think Star Trek shows generally provide a little more to think about.
@ThePedro1901 star wars defiantly and the lego star wars sets are great they may have compied star trek but they did a better job and theres some comedy with star wars lego vids on youtube.
The borg queen says we are From another galaxy and from the future... This is techincly incorrect star trek and star wars are both happening at the same time but in another galaxy And he says they wont identify themselfs lord vader right after them saying like 3 times WE ARE THE BORG .... But this was very humoring and i liked it and apperciate all the hard work you gave in this ty smeago!
The borg queen says we are From another galaxy and from the future... This is techincly incorrect star trek and star wars are both happening at the same time but in another galaxy also he says the borg dont identify themselfs... they said like 3 time we are the BORG .... But this was very humoring and i liked it and apperciate all the hard work you gave in this ty smeago!
The romulans would of tried to get somthing in return for that information about the borg and at the end i know this was just a little joke thing but r2d2 and all droids dont go to the bathroom or eat. and im not sure completely but did the rebel leader (The girl in white) Say OUR vulcan spys? as far as we know so far that rift in space that the borg have is the only one so what does she mean our VULCAN spys....
Very VERY! un accurate for 1 The Borg including the queen refer to themselfs as WE which she did not the borg do not make alliances they dominate and the borg queen says we will HELP you destroy them what the queen should of said Then We WILL destroy them and riker or someone says they havent responded to hails and protocal is to continue hailing but then he says captain the romulans are hailing us, What he should of said is captain the romulans are responding....over all it was still humoring
Hi. I've got a very important question to ask. the uniforms for the starfleet officers, how di you make them? and if you've still got the pictures of them could you send them to me at kbean56@yahoo.com please? I beg of you!!!!!
@AUTOBOTS241 I drew them in paint and printed them, then cut them out and taped them on. I don't have the images anymore as that stuff was all done years ago on a different computer, sorry.
In order to hack the Borg, you must find the Collective. And that is NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. Oh, And The Knightwing? Guess what? Every single Federation Starship can destroy a planet. So can the Borg. And the Romulans. And the Undine. And the Iconians. (and so on!)
why does the empire need help from the borg,The Empire already has More Advance Tech then the Borg does,Plus in the original trilogy The Empire was already winning the Rebels kept on running away.The Rebels only fought in the last episode but they were getting their ass kicked by The Empire.Star Wars has more Advance Technology than Star Trek
so what Star wars has better weapons and sheilding.Also their droids come in many sizes and many looks so don't say they are more human because look at the drodekas they have shieldings and repeating blasters.Look at the Probe Droid they can levitate.Plus Star wars is more Advance because they are more suited for war,While Star Trek isn't.The only Race that is more war like is the Klingons and the Borg
@indianajoneszilla Just to point out. Borg adaption isn't magic. It's a way for the borg to optimize their shields against certain threats. But if the Borg cube lacks the power to deflect or absorb a attack, it doesn't matter if it has adapted or not. And a Star Destroyer has the power to render borg adaption pointless.
@Idazmi7 And brute force. If we ignore the firepower of a Star Destroyer, and put its weapons on the level with the Federation, the Borg Cube would face so many guns it would be grinded into dust. A Borg Cube is poorly armored and armed, which is why even a small fleet of Federation Starships that's still outmassed by it can blast through its shields and cause enough damage that it's suffering from power fluctioations in its power grid.
@onlypeaceindeath You never actually watched Star Trek OR Star Wars, did you? The Enterprise can fire 10 torpedoes a second, forever until their ammo runs out. Phasers are powerful enough to destroy cities by themselves, and are 20 times weaker than torpedoes, which DO crush continents in eight episodes.
@Idazmi7 Proof please. Enterprise has failed to destroy an asteroid which was slightly denser than normal as i recall, they have shattered asteroids maybe a hundred meters in diameter with a single torpedo, and according to Riker in Pegasus I believe, it would take almost all of the Enterprise's torpedoes to destroy a dozen kilometer, hollow asteroid. Hardly continent crushing. Unlike Star Wars, where even a Star Destroyer's engines on max power would spell doom for all complex life on a planet.
@Idazmi7 Can't find the first one right now, and I can only find some remasterd pieces of the third, which didn't display that much in firepower. But the second one is not that impressive. No damage was visible, no bright lights, no real fireballs. Just some wierd atmospheric turbulence. Looked like some kind of lightning storm or something.
@Idazmi7 Which sounds like exaggeration. Wasn't light phasers in TNG rated at a few Gigawatts, and the total output of a Galaxy-class starship rated in the terawattage? Just saying.
@Idazmi7 Where? I only remember the "12.75 billion gigawatts of" and then he was interupted by something. It can mean anything. But since watt is power, and he used it as a unit of energy, really makes his estimate suspect. What if he meant per day? That would put the power at something like 150 terawatts, which is consistent with Rikers estimate.
yeah sure The Borg Cube is a little bigger than an Imperial Star Destroyer......But what about compared to an Imperial Super Star Destroyer.....The Super Star Destroyer has more Firepower than an Average Borg Cube.....And don't get me started on the Massive Eclipse
@kevfilms2x2 Oh yeah, you're right on that. It might take the WHOLE collective to take out the Massive Eclipse, and I KIND of like Star Wars, but love Star Trek, so let's just stop!
@kevfilms2x2 Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
@nightcrawler20202 Ehh, Star Wars have Human Replica Droids which looks exactly like humans, and also act like humans. That's far more advanced than Data could hope to be. And transporters in Star Trek must be one of the most unrealiable ways of transportation. Why would Star Wars even bother with them.
@onlypeaceindeath Data's more sophisticated predecessor Lore acted human and the EMH in Voyager looks and acts human. And anyhow the replicas are only in EU...
Transporters started as mostly a way of avoiding lots of shuttle transport scenes, haha.
@SmeagolStudios I thought he acted super-human. And he was one of a kind, just like Data, while in Star Wars sentient droids are produced in absolutely vast numbers. But good points anyway. The EU is a part of Star Wars though, so it counts. And yes, i've heard that about the transporters. They wanted to save money i think. But how expensive can it be to film a small pile of dirt and a small model ship on a string landing on it?
@onlypeaceindeath ... but if you had the technology to REASSEMBLE YOUR SELF after being transported, it MIGHT work. See, half of this stuff doesn't even exist yet, and you already doubt it's possibility. Next you'll say interstellar travel is impossible.
@indianajoneszilla There is no theory that would make teleportation possible as I know it. It might be possible, but the idea of being disintigrated and launched through space doesn't appeal me, even if I can be reassembled. The idea would almost be as retarded as the idea of cutting people into pieces to save space when they travel and then put them together when they reach their destination. It requires you to be killed. A portal might be different however.
Star Trek vs Star Wars is not a battle at all. It is a slaughter. Star Trek wins with barely any effort. Races like the Q and Douwd give them the instant win. The end.
funny cause the Q don't care and neither do the Douwd unless they try to take over one of their planets, but quite frankly there is no need to attack any Douwd controlled planet, the Q/Douwd never did anything about the Dominion/Borg, they won't do anything about the Empire.
uh huh, shame that in any logical scenario of a crossover (you know, where one faction shows up in another, like say the empire invades the milky way) the trek factions wouldn't stand a chance,
but because you can't handle that you abandon all reason and come up with some "they have to fight cause they are from star wars/star trek etc" which no crossover in history regardless of whether it has a "vs" in it that refers to either series or even COMPANY, has ever done, and for a good reason.
I'm not saying EVERYTHING that has ever existed in both universes. Only everything and everyone that currently exist at their prime. (Nemesis era ST universe, ESB era SW universe?)
I wouldn't call the ESB era of the SW universe it's prime, but I can think of one that would involve powers that show things far greater than what the Q and whatnot have displayed, but see, in crossovers, it's not about pitting the godlike entities against each other, or everything from that franchise against each other simply for it's own sake.
Star Trek is about the Federation's, or more specifically, mankind's journey through the stars and through itself (as the name suggests)
Star Wars is about the struggles of mankind that has already made such a journey to maintain peace in eras of upheaval and tyranny, as well as rediscover lost ways of thinking, (once again as the name suggests)
As a result it makes no sense, to have a VS that arbitrarily takes everything from both franchises against one another, it makes infinitely more sense for the Humans in Star Trek to try to deal with the Upheaval and Tyranny of Star Wars, which would be a true VS.
@Perion but it's not mankind. Star Wars isn't even in the same galaxy! And it's not even in the future or the present. It's set in the past, yet all their technology is thousands of years ahead of mankind. Aliens, much?
Janeways older self killed the borg queen so yes StarTrek did get battle blade armor and better shields and Quantom torps. So SOrry there TheKnightwing1197. But yes star wars had the death star. But in star Trek It takes Brains not power to win. check it out over and over. lol Peace all.
"Battle blade armor" is that what you call the batarmour on voyager there?
Quantum Torpedoes, are, at most, twice the strength of regular photon torpedoes, However, Imperial Turbolasers are millions of times stronger.
more often than not brawn wins over brains, like how a jock can beat the living snot out of some geek.
Brains only really factors into it when one force has so much as the slightest chance of damaging the other, in this case, Federation ships have zero chance.
Okay I am willing to admit star wars isnt perfect but you cant simply say that it sucks when you are obviosly a fan of Star Trek and un willing to admit the other side is better .Besides this conversation could go on forever so I am ending it NOW.....
star trek never had a deathstar or any massive exiting battles, only peacemaking crap, star wars has lots of good battles and great villans. oh and btw for you trekies out there, in star wars the jedi could hack the droids, but in star trek the good guys could not hack the borg.
Yeah, by the time they were featured in Voyager the Borg had become a joke. And the battledroids from Star Wars? Those spindly little things were a joke. They could be defeated with a pillow.
@mrDARKLEGO Naw, I think I liked it better than most fans given the lukewarm response it got, but my favorite Voyager episodes would be the two-parter called "Year of Hell"
@TheKnightwing1197 , While I'm more a star wars fan, I can assure Star Trek had many massive space battles. Deep Space 9 , the Federation alliance with the Klingon Empire and Romulan Empire went to war with the Gamma Quadrant Dominion.
@TheKnightwing1197 They couldnt because the borg are a million times more sophisticated than the droids and also smegolstudios is correct see voy they hackem all the time and u cant argue with the author! :)
@TheKnightwing1197 En serio no tienes idea de lo que estas hablando. Puede que en star trek no haya estaciones como la Estrella de la Muerte, pero definitivamente tiene armas tan poderosas como esas, y quizás más poderosas aún (Trilithium, materia roja, etc) . Por lo demás, los jedis también eran pacifistas si mal no recuerdo. Star Trek tiene muchísimas y excelentes batallas (Wolf 359, Chin'toka, etc), así como interesantes villanos (Khan, Soran, Nero, etc).
@pablodiaz359 me gusta los dos, no es necessario decir que un es mejor que el otro en mi opinion. No son en exactamente el mismo género; Star Wars es fantasia y Star Trek es un poco más al lado de ciencia ficción. (Sin embargo, la nueva pelicula "Star Trek" is más o menos 'space opera' como Star Wars)
@SmeagolStudios yo también pienso que no se puede decir si hay uno mejor que otro, después de todo, en cuestión de gustos no hay nada escrito. A mi me gusta stra trek, pero si a otro le gusta star wars, ése es su asunto. Pero me molestó el comentario de knight wing que atacaba sin fundamento alguno a star trek.
@TheKnightwing1197 En serio no tienes idea de lo que estas hablando. Puede que en star trek no haya estaciones como la Estrella de la Muerte, pero definitivamente tiene armas tan poderosas como esas, y quizás más poderosas aún (Trilithium, materia roja, etc) . Por lo demás, los jedis también eran pacifistas si mal no recuerdo. Star Trek tiene muchísimas y excelentes batallas (Wolf 359, Chin'toka, etc), así como interesantes villanos (Khan, Soran, Nero, etc).
Look, Star Wars shields are USELESS. They never work. Do you see them work? No. Star Trek HAS WORKING shields. You do not. Besides, Star Trek has more emotional deaths ( Kirk, Spock, Data) Everybody has a death. Star Wars sucks. End of story.
I've seen em work once or twice. Like when they show the camera angle of the pilot going into the trench and that flash happens, that's shieldage right there.
All this fanwankery about particle beam cannons vs phased particle weapons is just speculation. Star Wars weaponry is modeled off of a combination of WW2 aircraft and battleships. The deciding factor in all the fights depicted there has nothing to do with numbers or strategy but instead the daring do of scrappy fighter pilots and their plucky droids. Star Trek is all about messing around with super science and rewriting the laws of physics when needed.
The ICS is a kid's picture book. Its place in canon is extremely flimsy, and the purported awesome abilities of Star Wars ships touted there are never actually portrayed in any of the movies or even the Clone Wars cartoon. And by that loose standard of canon, that means that the Star Wars Holiday Special is canon too. Yep, the cantina in Mos Eisley is owned by Bea Arthur. And she does song and dance numbers there with the locals. Not that I have a problem with that.
"the purported awesome abilities of star wars ships touted there are never actually portrayed in any of the movies"
actually some of them are, such as the Seismic charge's on screen performance, and X-wing acceleration levels required to do what we see them do on screen (such as go from Yavin IV to the DS2 in under 5 minutes). are around 12 gigatons and over 1000g respectively
also we never saw an orbital bombardment, so there is no evidence against the 200 gigaton ratings on screen.
The Seismic charges are absurd to begin with....Seismic forces at work in the vacuum of space? Along a two dimensional plane? How does that work? And the X-wings' speed is just a matter of Lucas' hyperactive editing compressing time. Not to mention his general lack of knowledge about physics. And a lack of evidence against something is not positive evidence for something. The 200 gigaton claim is pure bollocks.
Also, I don't recall any "kid's picture book" that was given calculations derived by a man with a PHD in theoretical astrophysics, nor stated as being cited as "The last chapter in the creation of the vehicles of the Star Wars Saga" by the Visual effects supervisor for the prequels (as well as star trek first contact.)
In short, you have no authority to question the figures.
And just because Chris Saxton has a PhD doesn't make the ICS any less of a kid's picture book, or make his figures any less bogus. It's all speculation and extrapolation from his fanboyish attempts to rationalize a vast and contradictory body of literature and media, instead of just acknowledging that some of the stuff that happens there doesn't make any sense because it's just made up by writers who are more interested in making a fun story. It's a work of fiction, so I can question all I like.
"doesn't make the ICS any less of a kid's picture book, or make his figures any less bogus"
The kid's picture book comment is your opinion, nothing more.
The figures are far from bogus since A. they are canon and B. nothing in the films contradicts them.
"all speculation and extrapolation"
Sorry but when something is made official canon like that it's no longer speculation or extrapolation, and there is no contradiction between it and the films,
Vader's black armor is easily provable as he is featured in four out of six movies. A 200 gigaton turbolaser on a Star Destroyer? Never actually demonstrated on screen. Ever. Because it would be such a ridiculous amount of firepower that it would break entire plots just by being possible. It is "canon" only in the loosest possible sense, and only because the Warsies are so desperate to win in their ridiculous pissing match against the Trekkers. It's crap writing, pure and simple.
O'RLY? So why use large clone armies to fight battledroids on the surface of planets using 19th century battlefield tactics when you can just fire a couple of those 200 gigaton shots from orbit and obliterate them where they stand? Why send AT-AT walkers down to Hoth to attack the rebel base when you can just fire a couple of shots by the edge of the shield and flush them out with a shockwave of burning debris? Because the guns are really not that powerful.
In Episode 2 it was a rescue mission, as well as to capture/kill enemy leaders.
"Because the guns are really not that powerful"
Sorry but they are that powerful, the shields were simply strong enough to withstand it, they already explained that on screen, and don't give me any "but physical objects can pass through the shield" bs, the only reason the AT-ATs could was because they were moving slowly and were grounded.
get a PHD and then you might be in a position to question it.
You can claim it's canon all you like, but really the basis for all of that stuff being canon is bogus and speaks of poor editorial control on the part of the folks at Lucas Arts. Probably because they just don't care. They're making stuff to entertain people, not to appease number crunching fans. It's just intended to be fun. Get over it. And really, this is nothing personal at all aimed at you. I'm just being a big fat nerd as well, having fun arguing.
And the entire Star Wars "canon" is just a work of fiction, pure and simple. One that can be rewritten or invalidated at any moment by any of the actual writers working on any Star Wars media. Star Wars is supposed to be goofy illogical swashbuckling escapist fun. Nothing more. All of this canon-thumping fanwankery sucks all the fun out of the franchise. It's just created a generation of fanboy fundamentalists. That's not what Star Wars (or Star Trek) are about.
You can't compare the two universes, it's like comparing apples to oranges. But "realistically" Star Wars would be able to counter whatever Star Trek threw at them because of high Industrial Capacity. They have the means to mass produce and upgrade their ships very quickly. Able to be seen in the transformation from the Republic to Galactic Empire's change in ship design. They would simply slap themselves and think "why didn't we think of that before?".
Except there's nothing the Federation have that would make the Empire do that, Empire have replicators on a scale unheard of in the Federation, and have such advanced electronic warfare and dense hulls as to make Transporters useless.
Their Medical technology is far beyond that of the Federation, field medical supplies include artificial limbs and they can make artificial spines complete with nervous system connections, something the Federation cannot do.
They hav e shields. Many expanded universe sources say so, and even movies. For instance, in episode 4, Han Solo states that imperials hit falcons shields. In episode 5, an asteroid is destroyed by hitting star destroyer's shield. And it is clearly stated, that a shield protected Death Star 2.
He's right, the fact is that Sw ships have shields -- many EU sorces agree -- from Grand Admiral Thrawn commenting on the defensive shields of a planet, to a Star destroyer surviving being rammed because of them to the Falcon herself having to readjust em.
Eh, it was the Enterprise E actually but yes that was a production error. Mostly due to a change of ships part way through filming, originally I had intended to use the E but switched to the D by the time I started filming the Enterprise sequences.
@SmeagolStudios but the enterprise crew knew the borg queen but the first time they met her was with the enterprise-e. how does that work (im not being rude im just curious(
@TheCatapultTV heh, this movie doesn't fit very well into either timeline. But in First Contact, Picard implies that he did meet the Queen before, during Best of Both Worlds, we just didn't see it.
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that couldn't even close to true...The empire as powerful as it is, would eventually succumb to even the borg. Even the federation was nearly defeated by just one cube! Add those totals in the billions and then you have an idea just how massive the borg collective is. Even the empire would fall in time.
actually I do, the Borg collective have Thousands of worlds, the Empire has millions.
the Federation is pathetic compared to the Empire with their photon torpedoes worth 48 megatons
a single light turbolaser bolt is worth 200,000 megatons in an extremely dense and concentrated blast (IE small)
heavy turbolaser bolts are worth 60 ltls, and imperial ships are covered with both, as well as ion canons which are like weaponized ion storms, and Ion storms crippled borg ships.
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all it takes to take over a whole ship is one drone. Assimilation can't be beaten that easily. Even Picard, a man in intimate knowledge of the borg was barely able to fend them off of his own ship. How well do you think the hand held blasters stormtroopers carry would be able to go up against drones. To top that off, if the borg to even just one imperial ship, they have all the technology they need to wipe out the rest.. God help us if the Borg learned how to use lightsabers.
you have to realize that the Empire is on a completely different scale from the Federation, so problems that the Federation have won't count against the Empire, which is vastly superior.
Cubes wouldn't even get close enough to a Star Destroyer to send a single drone aboard, even if they got in range before being vapourized. the Star Destroyers shields, hull, reactor and other equipment would all block their transporters
even if drones got aboard, they would be little more than target practice.
also the Borg have an easily exploitable weakness, one that the Federation has their heads stuck too far up their own asses to even consider.
Bullets.
if hand to hand combat works (which it does, albeit dangerous to be that close.) then so do bullets, the borg have never developed KE shielding, and it's doubtful in the least that they ever will.
the Galactic Empire has no qualms about using such weapons, though their ACP weapons have pretty much the same effect.
ranged Kinetic weapons go, blowgun, bow, crossbow, musket, slugthrower, caseless ammunition, ACP. (accelerated charged particle) ACP weapons have no frequency for Borg shields to adapt to any more than a person's fists or 8472's claws and use Kinetic impacts alone to cause damage.
Blasters use superheated/ionized Tibana Gas,
Phasers use something called the NDF effect with Nadion particles.
neither does the Empire, except as an ignition system for their weapons, they still use the term though, much like the term rifle is used for energy weapons when it has no actual rifling.
hell, even their Blasters and the energy weapons they call Lasers are two distinctly different things, neither are the same sort of Laser that they use in Star Trek, and real life Lasers are different too.
trek lasers, wars lasers and real life lasers are three different things with different characteristics
assimilation is more difficult than simple destruction, destruction you can go all out on the attack, assimilation you have to be careful not to kill everyone and you have to have a good defense
but even so they'd be unlikely to even get finished with that little introduction speech/demand thing they always give before being blown to smithereens.
after a while Star Destroyers might wait enough to let them finish, then reply with "We are the Coru, you will be resisted, assimilation is futile"
Only times the Borg really did much in the way of destroying ships without their usual introduction was at wolf 359 and when there was the rogue group headed by Lore, either way they aren't a threat.
the Empire has more than enough firepower to make short work of them, with shielding strong enough to be effectively Invincible against their attacks, a star destroyer is capable of dishing out the equivalent to hundreds of millions of Photon torpedoes a second without straining it's weapons.
If you're wondering how to animate it, I suggest the chapter on animation in the users' guide, something like making a model move is generally fairly simple but it takes a little learning to use the software.
yes thanks but one more question when i make a model in MLcat then import> it to LEOcad and export> it in a 3d file and then import> it to carrara studio in a movie scene do i need to greenscreen it where the model neets to stay ?
not necessarily. It's easy to set a source video as a backdrop, then layer CG on top of that. If you want it as a backdrop then you'll need to greenscreen.
Sorry, I don't think I'll be able to do that, if you're just wanting to learn how to use Carrara the best way to learn it is by reading the user's guide and experimenting with the software. That's how I learned it.
Ah. Well in that case it's very simple. All you have to do is load your MLCad model into LeoCad (another program) then export from there as a 3ds file, which you can open in Carrara.
The handle on the lightsaber is to small... o wait! Thats the dislike bar!
AdamHinckley 3 weeks ago
SmeagolStudios, do you prefer star wars or star trek? I prefer star wars :D
44448a 1 month ago
@44448a With the exception of the new film, I don't think Star Trek is generally in the same genre as Star Wars, they're pretty different. Star Wars is generally a little higher in raw entertainment value and of course production values, though I think Star Trek shows generally provide a little more to think about.
SmeagolStudios 1 month ago 5
thums up if u r seening this in2011
hem2100 2 months ago
BORG BORG!!!!!
SuperLegoman36 6 months ago
5: 09 is mixed up no signel
legostiodeos5 7 months ago
hmmm, is it me or is Data more expressive than Picard in terms of their faces?
edusuntrebor 8 months ago
Wich one do you prefere star wars or star trek???
ThePedro1901 10 months ago
@ThePedro1901 star wars defiantly and the lego star wars sets are great they may have compied star trek but they did a better job and theres some comedy with star wars lego vids on youtube.
Ovingtonqth 9 months ago
haha smeagol!
KaliJadeFireheart9 10 months ago
why would r2 want to eat doritos
simbanoel1 10 months ago
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The borg queen says we are From another galaxy and from the future... This is techincly incorrect star trek and star wars are both happening at the same time but in another galaxy And he says they wont identify themselfs lord vader right after them saying like 3 times WE ARE THE BORG .... But this was very humoring and i liked it and apperciate all the hard work you gave in this ty smeago!
Damious100 11 months ago
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The borg queen says we are From another galaxy and from the future... This is techincly incorrect star trek and star wars are both happening at the same time but in another galaxy also he says the borg dont identify themselfs... they said like 3 time we are the BORG .... But this was very humoring and i liked it and apperciate all the hard work you gave in this ty smeago!
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Damious100 11 months ago
The romulans would of tried to get somthing in return for that information about the borg and at the end i know this was just a little joke thing but r2d2 and all droids dont go to the bathroom or eat. and im not sure completely but did the rebel leader (The girl in white) Say OUR vulcan spys? as far as we know so far that rift in space that the borg have is the only one so what does she mean our VULCAN spys....
Damious100 11 months ago
Very VERY! un accurate for 1 The Borg including the queen refer to themselfs as WE which she did not the borg do not make alliances they dominate and the borg queen says we will HELP you destroy them what the queen should of said Then We WILL destroy them and riker or someone says they havent responded to hails and protocal is to continue hailing but then he says captain the romulans are hailing us, What he should of said is captain the romulans are responding....over all it was still humoring
Damious100 11 months ago
At the beggining it sounds like General Grievous mumbling.
LegoStarWars156 11 months ago
Awsome!
TheGodzilla20001141 1 year ago
LOL some voice is terrible but other than that PLOT IS GREAT
Shader013 1 year ago
7:50 "I will not condone a course of action that will lead us to war" LOL
nerfbattothefacelol 1 year ago
Can u re-upload this in higher quality?
CALego405 1 year ago
at 6:50 , is that a real head with eyebrows or is it animated?
TheWwematt2 1 year ago
@TheWwematt2 I added the eyebrows in post.
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
the drones are actually called the borg.
ThomasBoyThomasTrain 1 year ago
.........I see
Drex088 1 year ago
Darth Vader sounds like a female Go'auld... pretty cool all around this film.
MrLotharofhillpeople 1 year ago
Hi. I've got a very important question to ask. the uniforms for the starfleet officers, how di you make them? and if you've still got the pictures of them could you send them to me at kbean56@yahoo.com please? I beg of you!!!!!
AUTOBOTS241 1 year ago
@AUTOBOTS241 I drew them in paint and printed them, then cut them out and taped them on. I don't have the images anymore as that stuff was all done years ago on a different computer, sorry.
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios actully i have changed my mind i now think that the killing game is best
mrDARKLEGO 11 months ago
In order to hack the Borg, you must find the Collective. And that is NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. Oh, And The Knightwing? Guess what? Every single Federation Starship can destroy a planet. So can the Borg. And the Romulans. And the Undine. And the Iconians. (and so on!)
indianajoneszilla 1 year ago
theknightwing, they cant hack the borg becuase they are smarter than droids.
AdamHinckley 1 year ago
why does the empire need help from the borg,The Empire already has More Advance Tech then the Borg does,Plus in the original trilogy The Empire was already winning the Rebels kept on running away.The Rebels only fought in the last episode but they were getting their ass kicked by The Empire.Star Wars has more Advance Technology than Star Trek
kevfilms2x2 1 year ago
@kevfilms2x2 Star Trek tech is more advanced 1 becuase the droids look more human and 2 Star Fleet has teleports
nightcrawler20202 1 year ago
so what Star wars has better weapons and sheilding.Also their droids come in many sizes and many looks so don't say they are more human because look at the drodekas they have shieldings and repeating blasters.Look at the Probe Droid they can levitate.Plus Star wars is more Advance because they are more suited for war,While Star Trek isn't.The only Race that is more war like is the Klingons and the Borg
kevfilms2x2 1 year ago
@kevfilms2x2 And one Borg cube is bigger than a Star Destroyer. With more fire power than one, too.
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
@indianajoneszilla A Star Destroyer is bloody damned more powerful than a Borg cube. Hell, even Tantive IV is more dangerous than a Borg cube.
onlypeaceindeath 9 months ago
@onlypeaceindeath Not really. All and all, it doesn't matter WHAT you throw at the Borg; they'll just adapt to it anyways. Let's just stop this.
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
@indianajoneszilla Just to point out. Borg adaption isn't magic. It's a way for the borg to optimize their shields against certain threats. But if the Borg cube lacks the power to deflect or absorb a attack, it doesn't matter if it has adapted or not. And a Star Destroyer has the power to render borg adaption pointless.
onlypeaceindeath 9 months ago
@onlypeaceindeath "And a Star Destroyer has the power to render borg adaption pointless."
No it doesn't, only the Undine have that kind of firepower.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 And brute force. If we ignore the firepower of a Star Destroyer, and put its weapons on the level with the Federation, the Borg Cube would face so many guns it would be grinded into dust. A Borg Cube is poorly armored and armed, which is why even a small fleet of Federation Starships that's still outmassed by it can blast through its shields and cause enough damage that it's suffering from power fluctioations in its power grid.
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
@onlypeaceindeath You never actually watched Star Trek OR Star Wars, did you? The Enterprise can fire 10 torpedoes a second, forever until their ammo runs out. Phasers are powerful enough to destroy cities by themselves, and are 20 times weaker than torpedoes, which DO crush continents in eight episodes.
Star Wars doesn't even come close to that.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 Proof please. Enterprise has failed to destroy an asteroid which was slightly denser than normal as i recall, they have shattered asteroids maybe a hundred meters in diameter with a single torpedo, and according to Riker in Pegasus I believe, it would take almost all of the Enterprise's torpedoes to destroy a dozen kilometer, hollow asteroid. Hardly continent crushing. Unlike Star Wars, where even a Star Destroyer's engines on max power would spell doom for all complex life on a planet.
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
@onlypeaceindeath
"Balance of terror" Proximity blast at 90,00km, easily gigatons
"Battle of the Omarion Nebula" Torpedoes vs planet
"Whom gods destory" Phasers vs planet
etc.. etc..
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 Can't find the first one right now, and I can only find some remasterd pieces of the third, which didn't display that much in firepower. But the second one is not that impressive. No damage was visible, no bright lights, no real fireballs. Just some wierd atmospheric turbulence. Looked like some kind of lightning storm or something.
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
@onlypeaceindeath It was stated in the third that if they cut through the planet's SHIELD, they would obliterate the surface instantly.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 Which sounds like exaggeration. Wasn't light phasers in TNG rated at a few Gigawatts, and the total output of a Galaxy-class starship rated in the terawattage? Just saying.
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
@onlypeaceindeath The total power of the Galaxy class, according to Data the Android, is 100 *million* gigawatts.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 Where? I only remember the "12.75 billion gigawatts of" and then he was interupted by something. It can mean anything. But since watt is power, and he used it as a unit of energy, really makes his estimate suspect. What if he meant per day? That would put the power at something like 150 terawatts, which is consistent with Rikers estimate.
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
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@onlypeaceindeath "gigawatts of" can only be followed with "energy"
Not to mention, that's ABOVE my estimation. Thank you.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@onlypeaceindeath Fuck, i meant "12.75 billion gigawatts per".
onlypeaceindeath 1 month ago
yeah sure The Borg Cube is a little bigger than an Imperial Star Destroyer......But what about compared to an Imperial Super Star Destroyer.....The Super Star Destroyer has more Firepower than an Average Borg Cube.....And don't get me started on the Massive Eclipse
kevfilms2x2 9 months ago
@kevfilms2x2 Oh yeah, you're right on that. It might take the WHOLE collective to take out the Massive Eclipse, and I KIND of like Star Wars, but love Star Trek, so let's just stop!
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
yeah hehe ;D
but i love starwars more xDDDDD star trek is alright
kevfilms2x2 9 months ago
@kevfilms2x2 :D
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
xD
kevfilms2x2 9 months ago
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@kevfilms2x2 Ignoring Non-canon: Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" or "ray shields" at all. Starfleet Shields are both. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, (torpedoes are more powerful) and can level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. *Trek* wins.
Idazmi7 5 months ago
@nightcrawler20202 Ehh, Star Wars have Human Replica Droids which looks exactly like humans, and also act like humans. That's far more advanced than Data could hope to be. And transporters in Star Trek must be one of the most unrealiable ways of transportation. Why would Star Wars even bother with them.
onlypeaceindeath 1 year ago
@onlypeaceindeath Data's more sophisticated predecessor Lore acted human and the EMH in Voyager looks and acts human. And anyhow the replicas are only in EU...
Transporters started as mostly a way of avoiding lots of shuttle transport scenes, haha.
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios I thought he acted super-human. And he was one of a kind, just like Data, while in Star Wars sentient droids are produced in absolutely vast numbers. But good points anyway. The EU is a part of Star Wars though, so it counts. And yes, i've heard that about the transporters. They wanted to save money i think. But how expensive can it be to film a small pile of dirt and a small model ship on a string landing on it?
onlypeaceindeath 1 year ago
@onlypeaceindeath .. Because practically instantaneous travel is freaking AWESOME?
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
@indianajoneszilla It wouldn't be that awesome if your entire body has been disolved into energy. You would be dead.
onlypeaceindeath 9 months ago
@onlypeaceindeath ... but if you had the technology to REASSEMBLE YOUR SELF after being transported, it MIGHT work. See, half of this stuff doesn't even exist yet, and you already doubt it's possibility. Next you'll say interstellar travel is impossible.
Both of our series use it, BTW.
indianajoneszilla 9 months ago
@indianajoneszilla There is no theory that would make teleportation possible as I know it. It might be possible, but the idea of being disintigrated and launched through space doesn't appeal me, even if I can be reassembled. The idea would almost be as retarded as the idea of cutting people into pieces to save space when they travel and then put them together when they reach their destination. It requires you to be killed. A portal might be different however.
onlypeaceindeath 9 months ago
@JNJChaos exactly
JackMotionFilm 1 year ago
Whats better? Trek or Wars?
Please Reply!
JackMotionFilm 1 year ago
@JackMotionFilm Better in what? As entertainment i would say both.
onlypeaceindeath 1 year ago
Wars.
kevfilms2x2 1 year ago
Star Trek vs Star Wars is not a battle at all. It is a slaughter. Star Trek wins with barely any effort. Races like the Q and Douwd give them the instant win. The end.
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
funny cause the Q don't care and neither do the Douwd unless they try to take over one of their planets, but quite frankly there is no need to attack any Douwd controlled planet, the Q/Douwd never did anything about the Dominion/Borg, they won't do anything about the Empire.
Perion 1 year ago
Doesn't matter. In a universe vs universe battle to the death, Star Trek would wtfpwn Star Wars with ease.
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
uh huh, shame that in any logical scenario of a crossover (you know, where one faction shows up in another, like say the empire invades the milky way) the trek factions wouldn't stand a chance,
but because you can't handle that you abandon all reason and come up with some "they have to fight cause they are from star wars/star trek etc" which no crossover in history regardless of whether it has a "vs" in it that refers to either series or even COMPANY, has ever done, and for a good reason.
Perion 1 year ago
So do you or do you not believe the Star Trek universe would defeat the Star Wars universe?
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
Let me put it this way, since we are, by your own definition, taking into account EVERYTHING from the respective universes, then the answer is no.
Perion 1 year ago
Why no?
I'm not saying EVERYTHING that has ever existed in both universes. Only everything and everyone that currently exist at their prime. (Nemesis era ST universe, ESB era SW universe?)
billyboyjennings 1 year ago
I wouldn't call the ESB era of the SW universe it's prime, but I can think of one that would involve powers that show things far greater than what the Q and whatnot have displayed, but see, in crossovers, it's not about pitting the godlike entities against each other, or everything from that franchise against each other simply for it's own sake.
Star Trek is about the Federation's, or more specifically, mankind's journey through the stars and through itself (as the name suggests)
Perion 1 year ago
Star Wars is about the struggles of mankind that has already made such a journey to maintain peace in eras of upheaval and tyranny, as well as rediscover lost ways of thinking, (once again as the name suggests)
As a result it makes no sense, to have a VS that arbitrarily takes everything from both franchises against one another, it makes infinitely more sense for the Humans in Star Trek to try to deal with the Upheaval and Tyranny of Star Wars, which would be a true VS.
Perion 1 year ago
@Perion but it's not mankind. Star Wars isn't even in the same galaxy! And it's not even in the future or the present. It's set in the past, yet all their technology is thousands of years ahead of mankind. Aliens, much?
BAMitisME 1 year ago
Possibly, some crossover fanfics have interesting explanations for it all, as to why Star Wars have humans as the dominant species.
Perion 1 year ago
@BAMitisME or mabey even paradox?! O-O?
TOK150 1 year ago
the last part was funny.
codename617 1 year ago
Janeways older self killed the borg queen so yes StarTrek did get battle blade armor and better shields and Quantom torps. So SOrry there TheKnightwing1197. But yes star wars had the death star. But in star Trek It takes Brains not power to win. check it out over and over. lol Peace all.
darian1968 1 year ago
"Battle blade armor" is that what you call the batarmour on voyager there?
Quantum Torpedoes, are, at most, twice the strength of regular photon torpedoes, However, Imperial Turbolasers are millions of times stronger.
more often than not brawn wins over brains, like how a jock can beat the living snot out of some geek.
Brains only really factors into it when one force has so much as the slightest chance of damaging the other, in this case, Federation ships have zero chance.
Also Thrawn
Perion 1 year ago
Okay I am willing to admit star wars isnt perfect but you cant simply say that it sucks when you are obviosly a fan of Star Trek and un willing to admit the other side is better .Besides this conversation could go on forever so I am ending it NOW.....
Also ,very enjoyable film =D
FalamfalaFilms 1 year ago
star trek never had a deathstar or any massive exiting battles, only peacemaking crap, star wars has lots of good battles and great villans. oh and btw for you trekies out there, in star wars the jedi could hack the droids, but in star trek the good guys could not hack the borg.
TheKnightwing1197 2 years ago
I find this discussion entertaining...but the good guys most definitely hacked the borg on multiple occasions. See VOY: Endgame, Part 1 & 2
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
oh, ok. sorry, i only seen 7 star trek films
TheKnightwing1197 2 years ago
Yeah, by the time they were featured in Voyager the Borg had become a joke. And the battledroids from Star Wars? Those spindly little things were a joke. They could be defeated with a pillow.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios hey endgame is the best voyager ep ever
do you think so to
mrDARKLEGO 1 year ago
@mrDARKLEGO Naw, I think I liked it better than most fans given the lukewarm response it got, but my favorite Voyager episodes would be the two-parter called "Year of Hell"
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios if you go to this channel startrekepisodes1 and go to the first ep he ever uploaded and that's year of hell 1 and 2
mrDARKLEGO 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios HELL YEAH!!^^
TOK150 1 year ago
@TheKnightwing1197 , While I'm more a star wars fan, I can assure Star Trek had many massive space battles. Deep Space 9 , the Federation alliance with the Klingon Empire and Romulan Empire went to war with the Gamma Quadrant Dominion.
Eagle027 1 year ago
@TheKnightwing1197 They couldnt because the borg are a million times more sophisticated than the droids and also smegolstudios is correct see voy they hackem all the time and u cant argue with the author! :)
Nanopizza1701 1 year ago
"borg are a million times more sophisticated than the droids"
Not really, CIS would have no trouble obliterating any Borg fleet.
Perion 1 year ago
@TheKnightwing1197 En serio no tienes idea de lo que estas hablando. Puede que en star trek no haya estaciones como la Estrella de la Muerte, pero definitivamente tiene armas tan poderosas como esas, y quizás más poderosas aún (Trilithium, materia roja, etc) . Por lo demás, los jedis también eran pacifistas si mal no recuerdo. Star Trek tiene muchísimas y excelentes batallas (Wolf 359, Chin'toka, etc), así como interesantes villanos (Khan, Soran, Nero, etc).
pablodiaz359 1 year ago
@pablodiaz359 me gusta los dos, no es necessario decir que un es mejor que el otro en mi opinion. No son en exactamente el mismo género; Star Wars es fantasia y Star Trek es un poco más al lado de ciencia ficción. (Sin embargo, la nueva pelicula "Star Trek" is más o menos 'space opera' como Star Wars)
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
@SmeagolStudios yo también pienso que no se puede decir si hay uno mejor que otro, después de todo, en cuestión de gustos no hay nada escrito. A mi me gusta stra trek, pero si a otro le gusta star wars, ése es su asunto. Pero me molestó el comentario de knight wing que atacaba sin fundamento alguno a star trek.
En todo caso, excelente video!!!
pablodiaz359 1 year ago
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@TheKnightwing1197 En serio no tienes idea de lo que estas hablando. Puede que en star trek no haya estaciones como la Estrella de la Muerte, pero definitivamente tiene armas tan poderosas como esas, y quizás más poderosas aún (Trilithium, materia roja, etc) . Por lo demás, los jedis también eran pacifistas si mal no recuerdo. Star Trek tiene muchísimas y excelentes batallas (Wolf 359, Chin'toka, etc), así como interesantes villanos (Khan, Soran, Nero, etc).
pablodiaz359 1 year ago
Star Trek has star ships that fade in and out of the space time continuum, and starships that can travel back in time.
leal57337 2 years ago
lmfao @ 7:25
SCARREDMIND 2 years ago
Look, Star Wars shields are USELESS. They never work. Do you see them work? No. Star Trek HAS WORKING shields. You do not. Besides, Star Trek has more emotional deaths ( Kirk, Spock, Data) Everybody has a death. Star Wars sucks. End of story.
indianajoneszilla 2 years ago
I've seen em work once or twice. Like when they show the camera angle of the pilot going into the trench and that flash happens, that's shieldage right there.
Firestorm2900 2 years ago
star wars has particle beam cannons, like edxtremply powerful large hadron coliders as weapons. they fire MASS at relativistic speed.
think nuclear bomb cannons for your yield reference point. not much shields can do there.
trek has phased particle weapons. these are several orders of magnitude weaker.
they work by having light streams of particles pass through armour, due to being phased, in order to damage the stuff behind the armour.
we are already conducting phased particle experiments.
SCARREDMIND 2 years ago 9
All this fanwankery about particle beam cannons vs phased particle weapons is just speculation. Star Wars weaponry is modeled off of a combination of WW2 aircraft and battleships. The deciding factor in all the fights depicted there has nothing to do with numbers or strategy but instead the daring do of scrappy fighter pilots and their plucky droids. Star Trek is all about messing around with super science and rewriting the laws of physics when needed.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
"all this fanwankery about particle bean cannons vs phased particle weapons is just speculation"
The Figures in the ICS are official canon, not Speculation.
I don't know about you but Hypermatter Reactors, 1 Way Shields, Repulorlifts and Neutrino Radiators would most certainly qualify as "Super Science"
The Force rewrites the laws of physics literally at will.
Perion 1 year ago
The ICS is a kid's picture book. Its place in canon is extremely flimsy, and the purported awesome abilities of Star Wars ships touted there are never actually portrayed in any of the movies or even the Clone Wars cartoon. And by that loose standard of canon, that means that the Star Wars Holiday Special is canon too. Yep, the cantina in Mos Eisley is owned by Bea Arthur. And she does song and dance numbers there with the locals. Not that I have a problem with that.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
"the purported awesome abilities of star wars ships touted there are never actually portrayed in any of the movies"
actually some of them are, such as the Seismic charge's on screen performance, and X-wing acceleration levels required to do what we see them do on screen (such as go from Yavin IV to the DS2 in under 5 minutes). are around 12 gigatons and over 1000g respectively
also we never saw an orbital bombardment, so there is no evidence against the 200 gigaton ratings on screen.
Perion 1 year ago
The Seismic charges are absurd to begin with....Seismic forces at work in the vacuum of space? Along a two dimensional plane? How does that work? And the X-wings' speed is just a matter of Lucas' hyperactive editing compressing time. Not to mention his general lack of knowledge about physics. And a lack of evidence against something is not positive evidence for something. The 200 gigaton claim is pure bollocks.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
Also, I don't recall any "kid's picture book" that was given calculations derived by a man with a PHD in theoretical astrophysics, nor stated as being cited as "The last chapter in the creation of the vehicles of the Star Wars Saga" by the Visual effects supervisor for the prequels (as well as star trek first contact.)
In short, you have no authority to question the figures.
Perion 1 year ago
And just because Chris Saxton has a PhD doesn't make the ICS any less of a kid's picture book, or make his figures any less bogus. It's all speculation and extrapolation from his fanboyish attempts to rationalize a vast and contradictory body of literature and media, instead of just acknowledging that some of the stuff that happens there doesn't make any sense because it's just made up by writers who are more interested in making a fun story. It's a work of fiction, so I can question all I like.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
"doesn't make the ICS any less of a kid's picture book, or make his figures any less bogus"
The kid's picture book comment is your opinion, nothing more.
The figures are far from bogus since A. they are canon and B. nothing in the films contradicts them.
"all speculation and extrapolation"
Sorry but when something is made official canon like that it's no longer speculation or extrapolation, and there is no contradiction between it and the films,
Perion 1 year ago
"I can question all I like"
Shame the 200 gigaton figure is as canon as vader's armour is black. would you question that as well?
Perion 1 year ago
Vader's black armor is easily provable as he is featured in four out of six movies. A 200 gigaton turbolaser on a Star Destroyer? Never actually demonstrated on screen. Ever. Because it would be such a ridiculous amount of firepower that it would break entire plots just by being possible. It is "canon" only in the loosest possible sense, and only because the Warsies are so desperate to win in their ridiculous pissing match against the Trekkers. It's crap writing, pure and simple.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
Wow, you really are a hateful idiot.
200 gigaton turbolasers wouldn't even come close to breaking the plot of any of the films.
12 gigaton seismic charges however WERE seen on screen.
it is canon in nearly the highest possible sense, as it is used by ILM as reference material for their other projects,
has nothing to do with desperation or any such nonsense, It's there, It's canon, deal with it.
Perion 1 year ago
O'RLY? So why use large clone armies to fight battledroids on the surface of planets using 19th century battlefield tactics when you can just fire a couple of those 200 gigaton shots from orbit and obliterate them where they stand? Why send AT-AT walkers down to Hoth to attack the rebel base when you can just fire a couple of shots by the edge of the shield and flush them out with a shockwave of burning debris? Because the guns are really not that powerful.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
In Episode 2 it was a rescue mission, as well as to capture/kill enemy leaders.
"Because the guns are really not that powerful"
Sorry but they are that powerful, the shields were simply strong enough to withstand it, they already explained that on screen, and don't give me any "but physical objects can pass through the shield" bs, the only reason the AT-ATs could was because they were moving slowly and were grounded.
get a PHD and then you might be in a position to question it.
Perion 1 year ago
You can claim it's canon all you like, but really the basis for all of that stuff being canon is bogus and speaks of poor editorial control on the part of the folks at Lucas Arts. Probably because they just don't care. They're making stuff to entertain people, not to appease number crunching fans. It's just intended to be fun. Get over it. And really, this is nothing personal at all aimed at you. I'm just being a big fat nerd as well, having fun arguing.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
And the entire Star Wars "canon" is just a work of fiction, pure and simple. One that can be rewritten or invalidated at any moment by any of the actual writers working on any Star Wars media. Star Wars is supposed to be goofy illogical swashbuckling escapist fun. Nothing more. All of this canon-thumping fanwankery sucks all the fun out of the franchise. It's just created a generation of fanboy fundamentalists. That's not what Star Wars (or Star Trek) are about.
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
The hate is flowing through you now, shame you can't make any valid points.
Perion 1 year ago
Yep yep, if only you knew the powaaah of the daaark siiiiide. *shakes fists in impotent nerd rage*
KenoshiAkai 1 year ago
You can't compare the two universes, it's like comparing apples to oranges. But "realistically" Star Wars would be able to counter whatever Star Trek threw at them because of high Industrial Capacity. They have the means to mass produce and upgrade their ships very quickly. Able to be seen in the transformation from the Republic to Galactic Empire's change in ship design. They would simply slap themselves and think "why didn't we think of that before?".
Fr3k3 2 years ago
Except there's nothing the Federation have that would make the Empire do that, Empire have replicators on a scale unheard of in the Federation, and have such advanced electronic warfare and dense hulls as to make Transporters useless.
Their Medical technology is far beyond that of the Federation, field medical supplies include artificial limbs and they can make artificial spines complete with nervous system connections, something the Federation cannot do.
Perion 2 years ago
is it such a big deal just wach the show
LucasWitt15 2 years ago 4
@LucasWitt15 I feel your pain. They need to "Get a life" and just enjoy the show.
TheREALforeverone 2 years ago
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I really don;t care. Star Wars Sucks. Stat Trek rules.
indianajoneszilla 2 years ago
you keep thinking that
f1499 2 years ago
you will be sorry!!!!!!!!!
lego473 2 years ago
They hav e shields. Many expanded universe sources say so, and even movies. For instance, in episode 4, Han Solo states that imperials hit falcons shields. In episode 5, an asteroid is destroyed by hitting star destroyer's shield. And it is clearly stated, that a shield protected Death Star 2.
tvpnbb 2 years ago 7
SHUT UP! The shields are not even seen on a star wars ship! THEY HAVE NO SHILEDS!!!!
indianajoneszilla 2 years ago
He's right, the fact is that Sw ships have shields -- many EU sorces agree -- from Grand Admiral Thrawn commenting on the defensive shields of a planet, to a Star destroyer surviving being rammed because of them to the Falcon herself having to readjust em.
goldensstalos 2 years ago 2
then tell me how they have shield at the battle of hoth which you can clearly see when the ion canon fires
littlejohnob1 2 years ago
You made a bit of a mistake. the borg showed vader a hologram of the Voyager and she called it the enterprise
Qwertyghul 2 years ago
Eh, it was the Enterprise E actually but yes that was a production error. Mostly due to a change of ships part way through filming, originally I had intended to use the E but switched to the D by the time I started filming the Enterprise sequences.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
@SmeagolStudios but the enterprise crew knew the borg queen but the first time they met her was with the enterprise-e. how does that work (im not being rude im just curious(
TheCatapultTV 1 year ago
@TheCatapultTV heh, this movie doesn't fit very well into either timeline. But in First Contact, Picard implies that he did meet the Queen before, during Best of Both Worlds, we just didn't see it.
SmeagolStudios 1 year ago
I made a mistake. sorry. but another thing... why didnt the borg just pulverize the empire?
indianajoneszilla 2 years ago
because the Empire are more powerful than any race the Borg have ever encountered, including 8472.
Perion 2 years ago
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that couldn't even close to true...The empire as powerful as it is, would eventually succumb to even the borg. Even the federation was nearly defeated by just one cube! Add those totals in the billions and then you have an idea just how massive the borg collective is. Even the empire would fall in time.
KillerSwiller 2 years ago
actually I do, the Borg collective have Thousands of worlds, the Empire has millions.
the Federation is pathetic compared to the Empire with their photon torpedoes worth 48 megatons
a single light turbolaser bolt is worth 200,000 megatons in an extremely dense and concentrated blast (IE small)
heavy turbolaser bolts are worth 60 ltls, and imperial ships are covered with both, as well as ion canons which are like weaponized ion storms, and Ion storms crippled borg ships.
Perion 2 years ago 2
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all it takes to take over a whole ship is one drone. Assimilation can't be beaten that easily. Even Picard, a man in intimate knowledge of the borg was barely able to fend them off of his own ship. How well do you think the hand held blasters stormtroopers carry would be able to go up against drones. To top that off, if the borg to even just one imperial ship, they have all the technology they need to wipe out the rest.. God help us if the Borg learned how to use lightsabers.
KillerSwiller 2 years ago
stormtroopers would rape the borg.
1. Borg were incapable of assimilating data, due to his Positronic brain, Quantum Computers are far more complex than positronics,
Imperial ships use Quantum computers, IE Borg drones would be incapable of assimilating them.
2. Imperial ships are made out of durasteel, which is a neutronium alloy, Borg are incapable of assimilating Neutronium according to 7of9 herself.
3. Blasters are super heated plasma with no frequency coherence, Borg cannot adapt to it.
Perion 2 years ago 2
you have to realize that the Empire is on a completely different scale from the Federation, so problems that the Federation have won't count against the Empire, which is vastly superior.
Cubes wouldn't even get close enough to a Star Destroyer to send a single drone aboard, even if they got in range before being vapourized. the Star Destroyers shields, hull, reactor and other equipment would all block their transporters
even if drones got aboard, they would be little more than target practice.
Perion 2 years ago
also the Borg have an easily exploitable weakness, one that the Federation has their heads stuck too far up their own asses to even consider.
Bullets.
if hand to hand combat works (which it does, albeit dangerous to be that close.) then so do bullets, the borg have never developed KE shielding, and it's doubtful in the least that they ever will.
the Galactic Empire has no qualms about using such weapons, though their ACP weapons have pretty much the same effect.
Perion 2 years ago 2
ranged Kinetic weapons go, blowgun, bow, crossbow, musket, slugthrower, caseless ammunition, ACP. (accelerated charged particle) ACP weapons have no frequency for Borg shields to adapt to any more than a person's fists or 8472's claws and use Kinetic impacts alone to cause damage.
Blasters use superheated/ionized Tibana Gas,
Phasers use something called the NDF effect with Nadion particles.
other imperial Kinetic weapons include
Concussion Rifles
Sonic weapons
Spraysticks
Vibroblades
Perion 2 years ago
although no one uses lasers anymore lol
0000SHAW0000 2 years ago
neither does the Empire, except as an ignition system for their weapons, they still use the term though, much like the term rifle is used for energy weapons when it has no actual rifling.
hell, even their Blasters and the energy weapons they call Lasers are two distinctly different things, neither are the same sort of Laser that they use in Star Trek, and real life Lasers are different too.
trek lasers, wars lasers and real life lasers are three different things with different characteristics
Perion 2 years ago
you know borg dont just assimilate they kill and destroy too, so the borg might be able to beat them.
Atlanti14 2 years ago
assimilation is more difficult than simple destruction, destruction you can go all out on the attack, assimilation you have to be careful not to kill everyone and you have to have a good defense
but even so they'd be unlikely to even get finished with that little introduction speech/demand thing they always give before being blown to smithereens.
after a while Star Destroyers might wait enough to let them finish, then reply with "We are the Coru, you will be resisted, assimilation is futile"
Perion 2 years ago
But they only say that when they only want to assimilate, if they dont assimilate then they sometimes just attack.
And this is a good debate too :)
Atlanti14 2 years ago
Only times the Borg really did much in the way of destroying ships without their usual introduction was at wolf 359 and when there was the rogue group headed by Lore, either way they aren't a threat.
the Empire has more than enough firepower to make short work of them, with shielding strong enough to be effectively Invincible against their attacks, a star destroyer is capable of dishing out the equivalent to hundreds of millions of Photon torpedoes a second without straining it's weapons.
Perion 2 years ago
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I agree just one cube would be enough to wipe out that small fleet there. Not even vader can conquer the vacuum of space with just the force.
KillerSwiller 2 years ago
Dude, you but the enterprises warp drives on backwards. :(
indianajoneszilla 2 years ago
Not sure what you mean here, but the Bussard collectors on the warp nacelles are definitely on the correct side.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
what special effects do you use
darthpirakadude 2 years ago
i mean a video tutorial
tilai12 2 years ago
when i make a model in MLcad then import it to Daz Carrara Studio and i have setup the model i cant move it plz help !!!
tilai12 2 years ago
If you're wondering how to animate it, I suggest the chapter on animation in the users' guide, something like making a model move is generally fairly simple but it takes a little learning to use the software.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
where can i find thed one the site ?
tilai12 2 years ago
When you buy Carrara it comes with the software.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
yes thanks but one more question when i make a model in MLcat then import> it to LEOcad and export> it in a 3d file and then import> it to carrara studio in a movie scene do i need to greenscreen it where the model neets to stay ?
tilai12 2 years ago
not necessarily. It's easy to set a source video as a backdrop, then layer CG on top of that. If you want it as a backdrop then you'll need to greenscreen.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
could you make a tutorial or somting and mail it to me if i gife my email ?
tilai12 2 years ago
becuase i dont understand your CGI quide one your site ?
tilai12 2 years ago
Sorry, I don't think I'll be able to do that, if you're just wanting to learn how to use Carrara the best way to learn it is by reading the user's guide and experimenting with the software. That's how I learned it.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
i dont wanna learn carrara i just wanna learn how to import the MLCAD model in it ?
tilai12 2 years ago
Ah. Well in that case it's very simple. All you have to do is load your MLCad model into LeoCad (another program) then export from there as a 3ds file, which you can open in Carrara.
SmeagolStudios 2 years ago
when i open the file it says and error occured while reading the file ?
tilai12 2 years ago