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  • always Germany make so bad the Opera...but Florez please not for Verdi!!!!!

  • jajajajajaja  Florez touching the TITS!!!! Where is Rocco Sifreddi????

  • What is Edna Turnblad doing in Rigoletto?

  • Maddalena is Varla Jean Merman

  • encore une mise en scène ridicule,et c'est bien dommage,ça gache même les voix

  • WTF with this production! Florez singing to Gilda and not to Maddalena???!?!? And the hands of Florez touching her after that??

    I agree that this is not the best role for Florez, but it's allways a pleasure the way he treats every note gently.

  • TERRIBLE @_@

  • A stupid German concept production--the Duke is meant to be seducing Maddalena with his words, not Gilda. Of course, it's probably all in her head, and not real...............Florez sounds at the maximum level, and can't compete with the likes of Lucic, which is why he's dropped the role from his repertoire and is sticking to the Donizetti and Rossini light roles he is more comfortable with. he does have the self satisfied preening of the Duke perfectly though, but that's not acting, I suspect.

  • So did the duke just think "Nah this broads too much work." before switching to the other woman?

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  • @sweetpepper36 Never mind, I replied while still in the beginning of the video. This is just one crazy German production, who knows what was in the mind of the director, your theory makes sense.

  • por qué diego siempre le toca las tetas a todas?

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  • Actually I have to say that contrary to my expectations JDF sounds really good in this exceprt of the opera. The Duca is really the lightest Verdi role he could have picked, it's not like he's singing Otello or Radames.

    What I do not understand is why the Duke is fondling Gilda and not Maddalena in this version.

  • sorry for the mistakes, I am in a hurry,

  • questi registi andrebbero radiati:quando mai si è visto nel quartetto il Duca che abbraccia Gilda,ma sono impazziti!!se uno non conosce la storia va in tilt,se la conosce...si inc....za!!!

  • @66cecilia hai capito che è quello che immagina Gilda? Che lui la abraccia, che lui le canta. Ma è un sogno. Vedi la sua faccia! È bellisimo come ha risolto questo!

  • @jcroatto io credo che sia piuttosto lui che pensa a lei...perchè credo che sia l'unica che ha davvero turbato e conquistato il suo cuore,e ,probabilmente in quel momento ,sta pensando a lei:è lei che gli ispira quelle parole (tuttavia rivolte a Maddalena).E' una risoluzione nuova,ma accettabile solo per evidenziare eventualmente l'unico tratto "pulito " del Duca che, non è dato saperlo, ha amato sinceramente Gilda.

  • @jcroatto Si,riguardando la scena,come dici tu,ricorda quando le diceva le stesse cose,xchè infatti dopo un po' tocca le sua mani che l'abbracciano da dietro.credo che siano perciò tutti e due a ripensare a quel momento,prima lui poi lei.Comunque..un capolavoro:w Verdi!!!Saluti

  • lucic is great here. Bravo

  • perchè il duca abbraccia anche lei che dovrebbe essere nascosta?:D è simbolico??

  • CHE SCHENOGRAFIA DI CAZZO E QUESA?

  • buenisimooo

  • Grandissimi artisti, e la damrau splendida come sempre ... l'unica cosa alla quale mi oppongo è questa: PErchè florez canta il ruolo del duca? deve cantare il suo repertorio! ... che non è questo.

  • Ridiculous staging !!Which shows what

    dim wits singers are ,to appear in this

    stupid staging . Anything for applause .

  • I agree that JDF should not venture into this territory -- pray that his voice remains intact and serves the fach it's best suited for.

  • He's not venturing very far. The role of the Duke is not that far away musically or stylistically from many coloratura roles. I think it suits him fine. He sounds as strong as Kraus who was considered one of the greats in the role. I enjoyed Florez immensely here, albeit the 'mullet' hairdo.

  • What is up with Juan Diego's hair?

  • Who gave JDF the Duke's role? He is too legiero for this character. He is an amazing artist, but he should stick to Rossini, Donizetti and whatever other light-coloratura roles. Miscasting can do a lot of damage to any career.

  • great tenor, no doubts... but he is not an excellent Duca!

  • Mr.Florez is definitely a Rossini guy, he's too leggero to be heard over all of them :)

    Btw, I like the boobies :)

  • I know he's 6'4" and all, and can really fill out a pair of Peruvian lederhosen, and sang the greatest 9 high C's in Met history, but why did he suddenly turn into a booby monster?

  • @chatterboXXIX

    Because the role of the Duke is a creep, one of the most despicable characters in opera. Also, the director of this production tried to be more controversial it seems, but it didn't work out too well. The Duke is portrayed as the creep he is but it's staged far too psychologically rather than Verdi's and Piave's realistic intentions.

  • @Jaydoggy531 when I think "effective psychological realization", I definitely think mullets and boobies. :)

  • Perfekt, sonst nichts, nur perfekt !!!!

  • Displacing the characters like this completely defeats the purpose of this excerpt. I understand in full that the director is making this psychological, and I can't fault him/her for that because it does make sense. But what makes this scene so astounding in the libretto is that it's two very different simultaneous actions which each character portraying a different emotion. Doing this not only defeats the drama, but also goes against what Verismo theater is.

  • what a cast.

  • A me piace, vorrei però solo sapere chi è l'artefice della pettinatura di Florez....

  • what the heck is florez doing at 3.29?! is he tugging at her arm?!

  • si no estoy equivocado ( si lo estoy, corríjanme, pls ), se supone que Gilda está escondida con su padre, ( vaya regista )

  • @58wotan Claro en el escenario se supone que no se ven, son lamentablemente los escenarios modernos, dicen para ahorrar dinero.

  • @acitipo, por supuesto, se puede hacer una puesta en escena moderna pero respetando el libretto, porque, ¿ es más caro dejar a Gilda a un lado del escenario cantando ?, parece que sí, xD, ya pago yo el euro de más y que respeten el libretto, xDDDDDD

  • i can barely hear the mezzo....does anyone else have that problem? i'm not ragging on her, i'm just saying i can't hear her.

  • Ya, me too.

  • @LeCoconut probably got distracted by all of JDF's groping!

  • A mi me parece un tenor super pastoso y gritón, la verdad que lo hace fatal, no tiene fuerza

  • @rodikgork La voz de JDF no es pastosa es metalica, recuerda es un tenor ligerisimo, y no grita es el color de su timbre clarisimo que resalta, lo que si tengo que decirte que Rigoletto no es para el, la orquesta ha tenido que bajar la intensidad porque lo tapa, el canta otro repertorio.

  • @rodikgork Creo que no estoy de acuerdo; en realidad la voz de JDF es metálica y no pastosa como han comentado por aquí. Tampoco creo que estuviera gritón; de hecho, la orquesta ha tenido que bajar el volumen para realzar su voz (como también han dicho por aquí). Sí que tiene fuerza, pero no para cantar este personaje; en realidad, su voz es la de un contraltino (más próximo a los personajes rossinianos o bellinianos).

  • a surprisingly melodramatic performance from damrau... i suppose we all have off nights

  • Quattro grandi artisti; quattro voci belle davvero...Damrau Florez...

    Il risultato: UNA ORRIBILE "bella figlia"!!! ma chi ha messo in scena una cosa così INGUARDABILE!

  • He's just got so little sound, its not fair lol.

  • I love Juan Diego, he's a star but he should NOT sing this opera

  • @1810fox So true!

  • @1810fox

    I could not more agree to your comment

  • @1810fox I dont see why not... I mean, you are right but now a day every one sing whatever and thats wrong. If Domingo sings it all and Its ok but the majority I dont see why Flores should not.

  • @mrluistena The example "Domingo" is a bit tricky - Placido is the most multifaceted and multi-talented singer ever with 120 roles and more. And he was brilliant on almost all of them. Pavarotti had one of the best voices ever but had only 18 or 20 roles, he knew why... I agree with 1810fox - the Duke might not be the role in which Diego can really shine...

  • @kiepura1902 As long as you like strained high notes and a little overnasal sound then Domingo is your guy. His best roles were Don Jose and Simson because they don´t require a lot of high notes. If I compare Placido to Bonisolli vocally he simply don´t stand a chance in timbre or upper extension. Pertile, Tucker or even Merli beats him vocally by a margin. Not to mention Franco Corelli who did things vocally that Domingo only can dream about! As for JDF he is on his dramatic limit here.

  • @mrluistena I must admit you guys are right. But Domingo´s choice of singing it was as wrong as his ups and downs checking the music keys cutting off parts to accomodate him, the good singers are the ones who work their voices and art to match the composer´s demanding, If this is not met, then you luck of somthing. I will give you and example of what I mean, Alfredo Kraus made, in my opinion, the most espectacular career in opera ever known before, only sung who he fully understood.

  • El peor Duca del que se haya tenido noticia en veinte años.

  • quel horreur, ce pelotage de seins!! c'est d'un goût horrible!!

  • Does anyone that it sounds like Florez is tired and pushing... his first Bb was a little flat...

  • i see that juan diego florez likes touching madalenas boobs.

  • :-)

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  • Wouldn't you?!

  • Juan Diego! Superbe chanteur (et encore ici pas à son aise...pour le moment il n'est pas verdien, c'est tout ce que l'on peut dire) mais piètre acteur! Que c'est drôle de le voir bomber le torse en passant de Gilda à Maddalena, puis tenter d'enlacer/tâter une Maddalena qui, hum, ne se prête pas tellement à ce genre d'exercice (quelle matrone à côté de Florez, qui a un air de garçonnet du coup!. Il est quand même nettement meilleur dans La Fille du Régiment.

  • Is it bad if I think this Maddalena is terrible?

  • This Maddalena is awful. Thank you for agreeing.

  • Diana is so beautyful here! (I know that is not the main thing, but I can't be silent:-))

  • I'm with you, podkivanok xD She looks extremely hot here. And I don't understand how Flórez doesnt cracks by touching her in that way ;)

  • is this available on DVD anywhere that any knows of?

  • @metopin10 DVD will be at last released on Sept. 20, 2010 by Virgin Classic.

  • 3:21-3:22 - hahahahaha!

    Sorry...Florez has the voice for it, but he just isn't a womanizer at all...

  • Directing is indeed interesting: Gilda is imagining that the Count is coming back to her (she's smiling, and turns back to sadness as soon as she realizes he's only flirting with Maddalena). What we have here is Gilda imagining that the Count's lines are for her, with the voice of reason in the distance (Rigoletto's). I think that's the reason why we can't hear Lucic & Mayer a lot, so that Gilda can remain "alone" with the Count.

  • Esta puesta es horrible,Florez parece el último de los mohicanos,NO me gusta nada,gracias por

    subirlo de todos modos,que hay que ver todo.

  • Not bad, but compared to McCormack's or Gigli's, or Pavarotti's, it SEEMS quite poor. The difference is in the legato and perfection of the singing line, in which the previous three were true masters.

  • juan diego se ganoo!!steeee!!julia a vigilarlo

  • From like 2:45 on, whenever you DO manage to hear the mezzo she sounds like a chicken. its kind of funny. love the cast other than that though.

  • Hahahahah

    Bock-Bock Riiii do di cor.. Bock Bock

  • eh, it's pretty hard to hear the mezzo here.

  • what type of directing is this???? He's singing to his memory of Gilda??? not the sister? maybe he's singing to Gilda because he can't hear the Maddelena!

  • The mezzo is too weak! Damrau is very good. But the directing is too strange!

  • Christa Mayer (Maddalena) is in fact an alto and her Wagner-interpretations are quite good, but in this role she's really too weak. But the others are great. I agree concerning the directing!!

  • I don't like this production, though Zeljko i strong in this quartette.

  • Actually I wish that Zelijko was a bit louder in this quartet and I find the staging interesting. I do wish that JDF was a better actor though. I love his voice (he is the best singer of his generation) but he needs acting lessons. He could be incomparable if he was a better actor (IMHO Marcelo Alvarez is a better Duca.)

  • ´3:23 q tal agarrada de teta q le manda a la gorda!! jajaja

  • e vorrei aggiungere un'ultima cosa. un cantante intelligente è un cantante che sfutta al meglio le potenzialità della propria voce. grazie al cielo non abbiamo mai sentito pavarotti cantare mozart. per fortuna lo abbiamo sentito cantare puccini.

    quando la urmana (meraviglioso mezzosoprano) ha deciso di cambiare registro per ampliare il repertorio, si è trasformata in un soprano come tanti (voce quasi banale). non vorremmo che lo stesso succedesse con florez!

  • Certo e Pavarotti per esigenze di mercato lo abbiamo anche sentito cantare in playback perchè non aveva più voce in buffonate tipo pavarotti and friendsd!!!!

    Peraltro lo sapevii che pavarotti ha indicato in Florez il suo successore naturale??

  • secondo me dici cose che non hanno molto senso. i pavarotti and friends erano eventi di beneficenza che peraltro hanno avuto il grande merito di avvicinare all'opera lirica un pubblico vasto. in quanto al fatto che pavarotti abbia fatto dei complimenti a florez (che si merita) non centra niente. c'è stata una precisazione dello stesso florez a riguardo. non si possono paragonare un lirico spinto con un tenore di grazia, è come sommare le mele con le pere.

  • I totally agree with francesco11arc. A compliment is only a compliment {even if it is a well deserved one} and a singer shouldn't go too far on that...

    However, I don't think Duca is too much for a tenore di grazia with a good technique. As long s he doesn't fool himself with that.

  • In rather traditional productions of "Rigoletto" there is the old constellation Gilda/Rigoletto (outside) and Duca/Maddalena (inside), but here we have a really impressive and original realization of this wonderful music. The relations between the four characters seem to merge somehow and also the music gets new and fresh accents, but also because of these wonderful singers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Indeed!!!! It gave a wonderfully refreshing perpsective on the music. I was looking forward to the Sutherland top note at the end, but Diana's wonderful creamy dreaminess totally satisfied my cravings! And THEY said JDF shouldn't sing il Duce!!!! pffffffff I blow my nose in their general directsion!

  • Well said!! But I don't think that the high note at the end of the quartet is necessary, although it's maybe another dramtic effect. I don't think that it's in the score...

  • gracias onegin65 por esta primicia extraordinaria

  • produzione schifosa per regia e scenografie; florez canta un repertorio non suo. il rigoletto lo deve cantare un lirico spinto, florez va bene per rossini, non certo per verdi.

    in quanto alla damrau sarebbe brava se facesse meno smorfie (più adatte ai teatri di provincia, vedi la gheorghiu) e meno rumore nella respirazione.

  • Posso essere d'accordo su scenografia e regia, non certo sui cantanti!

    Per quanto riguarda le smorfie della Damrau mi sembrano assolutamente simili a quelle di tutte le altre cantanti... E' normale che cantando il viso si deformi un po'! Poi comunque fa delle facce simpatiche!

    Magari fossero come lei le cantanti di provincia!!!

  • le 'smorfie' della damrau sono dettate da un regista incompetente (vai a vedere che vergogna è il 'caro nome' di questa produzione. lei sembra che canti con l'asma. se non lo senti sei te il sordo...) io al posto della damrau (alla quale non manca certo il lavoro) avrei rifiutato di cantare in una produzione del genere. per quello che mi riguarda un altro scivolone così e lei si sputtana del tutto. la callas lo avrebbe mai fatto? no! lei si...

    in quanto al bravo florez, tornasse a cantare rossin

  • In italiano si dice sei tu il sordo!

    Chissà perchè alla Damrau non manca il lavoro!

    Basta paragonare tutti i soprani con la Callas.... Comunque ti ricordo la tournée in Giappone della Callas!!! Quello si che è stato uno scivolone e lo ha ammesso lei stessa. Come vedi anche la divina ha fatto qualche sbaglio!

  • alla damrau non manca il lavoro perchè è un ottimo soprano in un'epoca nera per l'opera. mancano le voci (questo è anche il motivo per cui si chiede a florez di cantare un repertorio non propriamente adatto al suo registro)e chi è poco disincantato scambia una performance ordinaria per un capolavoro.

    in quanto alla callas credo che, per dirla con rossini, sia 'la pietra del paragone' ed è normale instaurare dei confronti con gli altri soprani. la callas comunque è sacra e non si tocca!

  • Ma è ovvio che il paragone con la Callas non può essere sostenuto da nessuno. Lei era unica e chissà se e quando ce ne sarà un'altra! Poi la Damrau ha una voce completamente diversa dalla Callas, mi sembra che sia come paragonare un violino ad un pianoforte! E'ovvio che il suono è diverso...

    Non dico che sto rigoletto sia il rigoletto più bello mai eseguito, sicuramente Callas-Gobbi erano migliori (soprattutto in sì vendetta Lucic è sottotono)! Però secondo me è un'edizione di ottima qualìtà!

  • allora vedi che alla fine siamo d'accordo!

  • be' più o meno d'accordo!

  • I really liked the intelligent stage direction of this wonderful quartet!!! But of course we also have wonderful singers, although I'm not quite sure about the singer of Maddalena...

  • wonderful! but juan diego florez with a mullet? Why?!?

  • Mi sembra che di sordo ce ne sia solo uno!!!!

  • exactly!

  • Perfecto!!!!!!!!! Damrau es la mejor Gilda, me encanta muchisimas gracias por colgarlo :)

  • I was waiting for this!!!! Thank you!! Diana is always the best....

  • Excellent!

  • Thank you so much for posting this amazing video! I love how Flórez sounds as the Duke and Damrau is an great Gilda. I particularly enjoyed the stage direction of this quartet, where the Duke and Gilda get together with Rigoletto watching them as a flashback of how he seduced her. Brillian! Can you post the Duke-Gilda duet or the Rigoletto-Gilda duets, please? THANKS!!!

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