Bobby did not commit suicide. He's murdered by the ignorance of a barbaric church. While China is often condemned for its totalitarianism (which is not to a very large extend), I'll hv to say to the world: U think that China's bad? Let me tell u: it doesn't happen even in China!
Siete i benvenuti "Bellezza"! Sono solo uno yankee "che ha speso un sacco di tempo nel corso degli anni in Italia, e adorare il popolo, cultura, lingua, ecc storia mi piacerebbe un giorno visitare Malta, l'unico seggio tempo della" Ospitalieri "!
Drew my "Sweet Aussie" friend! You truly get the essence of Bobby and Mary Griffiths' story! Not merely to wallow or get mired in the tragedy of what occurred all those years ago! But like Mary to transcend and transform ones' heart, so we might do what we are able to prevent this from happening to others! As Bobby's old lover/boyfriend, I am "Over the Moon" with gratitude and "Pride" in how you've expressed it thus!
As I have stated in an earlier post. This was set in 1982 !!!
The United States of America was a very homophobic place under Reagan
Being gay in American Suburbia especially with Christian Parents was very hard for many.
I realize it must be hard for some who were born in the late 1980's or 1990's to understand and how Homophobic America was...and in some parts still is today.But at least Gay Teens have the internet today if feeling depressed and can seek help.
if i ever have a son or daughter who's gay/lesbian, i'll make sure they know that there's nothing wrong with that and that they're loved no matter what! the world doesn't need any more real life, bobby-like stories
i'm literally crying as i am typing this...... what an abscene amount of ignorance for his mother to have tortured her son to commit suicide... it twists my heart. let this be a lesson to all of you guys....... accept your offspring for who they are.... a soul NEVER changes! r.i.p. bobby and all others who have suffered like him.
Although this was a great movie, I would recommend actually reading the book. Some of the scenes in the movie were rewritten from similar situations. For example the scene with David, who is not based on anyone, refers to a time when Mary threw out a coat after finding out that a woman she lent it to had a lesbian encounter. Later when asked by her niece why she did that, she said "You can't be gay and love God."
Thank you my friend for advising people who are interested in learning more about Bobby and Mary Griffiths' story, than is possible from a 90 minute, ableit well done made for tv movie! As Bobby Griffiths' old lover/boyfriend, I've been trying to do the same and gently so mind you, for almost two years now! But yours' here is the first comment I've thus seen that echoes that notion! Again my my friend I'm so grateful to you for this!
I think reading the book will help young people understand that their parents sometimes have little or no knowledge about a lot of things. It not only enlightened Mom but it helped me understand what she was so upset over.
I wanna punch that priest. His word show exactly what is wrong with the whole sin system like Christiany uses. First you name homosexuality a sin, something that people cant help being. And tada! You are able to call people sinners. You can now look down on them, call them fags, do the "you will go to hell" rant. FUN! And you can feel so superior about yourself. Way to go, and all on someone else expense.
I absolutely LOSE it every time I see the scene where she's making the sandwich and Bobby is suddenly there again. Then the waterworks continue when she's sobbing in the bathroom
Though I love your strong reaction to the character that Sigourney Weaver portrayed, might Bobbys' old lover/boyfriend "Blaine" here assure you that the real "Mary Griffith" has in fact been nothing like that person for quite some time now! Yes ignorance does still exist , but I truly believe that in the almost 30 years since Bobbys' death it is finally and thankfully in its death throws! Hope and love are winning out!
@blainebill39 I don't know if David was a character that represented you, but I believe in my heart that seeing David with someone else is what finally broke him. I find it hard to watch David show up at the funeral and offer condolences to Bobbies mother when in truth he was cheating on Bobby behind his back when Bobby needed him most. If you are David, shame on you, because you share in the cause of his death. I am a 25 year old gay man and I know first hand what the gay world is like. Sad
Apparently he was a "Screen Writers Vehicle" or fictitious! Ed said a "Composite" if you will of a number of people Bobby may have known! In Mr. Aarons' book I appear to have been the only "Love Interest" that Bobby journaled about! My name is first mentioned on page 130, in the chapter entitled "The Leper"! But "Sweetie Boy" that is remarkably dear of you, and you're absolutely right I would feel shame and even more guilt had that been the case!
Mike "Ragazzo Dolce" (Sweetie Boy) yes my friend in the context of Lifetimes' Dramatization of Bobbys' story I would have to agree with you! But honey if you have an opportunity to acquire a copy of the late Leroy Aarons' book you won't find any mention of a "Love Interest" in Portland! At an event last month involving most of the Griffith' family, I sat next to Bobbys' brother Ed and asked him about the "David" character in the movie!
Religion the root of all evil...the starter of wars,hate,bigotry, misunderstanding etc etc etc... who needs a malevolent, punishing God?!? This is from a recovering Catholic who is tired of the pontificating BS....
Fuck. If they talked about my sins at my funeral, I'd jump out of the casket and shove a bible up someone's arse..... This movie makes me cry. So heartbreaking to hate for one portion of a person's life.
Didn't Bobby catch David coming out of the club with another guy during the time he needed to talk to him the most? Wasn't that the straw that broke the camel's back?
i almost feel like a fool for watching this movie...Because its hits just to close to home. This movie was based on a true story that took place 30 years ago and 30 years nothing has changed. If that were my best friends funeral, and his christian mother who spoke nearly the same words bobby's mother did to my friend sitting there, letting that pastor speak like that about her own son, I would have set that church on fire.
@cuttinlemonz it's unknown if David actually cheated on him, Bobby just saw him walking out the club laughing with another man, it looks like cheating but it was probably a missunderstanding, If David did cheat I don't think he would have gone to the funeral.
Yeah, it's been an on-going debate if that really was David running out of the club. I say it isn't David, but some dude that strongly resembles him. My perception as to why Bobby was crying was due to the fact that he would never find true happiness
I know what you mean sweetheart! Though I was Bobby Griffiths' lover and then good friend after he moved up
to Oregon! I wasn't informed of Bobby's suicide until months after it occurred! To this day, I have never been to his gravesite! It's just been all too painful up to this point, but my Dad still lives in Walnut Creek and he liked Bobby very much! Perhaps I could ask him to escort me there!
I'm sorry, but I'm glad the mother feels like shit. It is her fault Bobby was so depressed. She was the one who wouldn't stop throwing scripture at him, and not accepting him.. and she was the one who basically told him he wasn't her son anymore. How could someone treat their own child that way?? It just baffles me how selfish and ignorant and cruel people are.. especially when it's to their own family.
This movie was very inspirational. I'm a devout Catholic, and yes I'd be the first to admit that I'm not crazy about homosexuality. But I've never passed judgment on anybody that is gay. I have a couple friends that are and they're some of the nicest people you could ever meet. The way I see it, you're not God, He should be the judge on others.
The sad thing is, my mother has actually said if that if one of us was gay she wouldn't step foot on our house.
i don't understand how the top rated comments are so angry. O_o hypocrisy much? i mean seriously, they're as shallow and unsympathetic as those bigots.
@loner1878 you are defined by the choices you make. if life is as simple as just hate or love, you chose the lesser of the two. that choice is now part of you and nothing can change that.
@loner1878 you're the one who has Kira as an avatar =P but no i don't preach, i discuss. if i wanted to preach i would've gone around responding to people's comments and telling them they're wrong, like what you did haha
all i'm saying is that it's disturbing to me, that when watching a clip of a true story of a person dying, all people do is scream and yell in anger.
LOL, where did I use the word "wrong?" Point it out please.
Yeah, how dare people be outraged at a young man being driven to kill himself because of the intolerance of others. If its too much for you maybe you shouldn't be on youtube.
I tottaly understand how Mary feels, but its her ignorance that killed her own son! And damn I hated the part where she threw the plate away and scrubed her hands, I wish I would had been the cousin, I'd told her more than she had to hear! >;-(
i really feel for mary. her intention for saving bobby to hell is good, but it was also her ignorance that killed him. im so glad that shes doing what shes doing today. bobby will definitely feel the love and support from above. <3
But otherwise, my best friend who I had since first grade turned out to be gay and didn't come out until are sophmore year of high school, I didn't care, gay or not he will always be my best friend and he has my care and support.
so one side could believe the reightious path was ending a sinfull life
another side could say the reightious path was fighting to be yourself and trying to have some kind of possitive impact on society, eg. making society more accepting, loving, understanding, caring, etc. :L
MAYBE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAY GAY PEOPLE SHOULD GO KILL THEMSELVES BECUASE ITS LESS GARBAGE, HOW ABOUT YOU GO TAKE A GOOOOOOOD LOOOOOONG HARD LOOK AT YOURSELF AND SEE THE GARBAGE THATS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. YOUR TELLING GAYS TO GO KILL THEMSELVES BUT YET YOUR TELLING A HUMAN
GAY PEOPLE ARE NOT GARBAGE. BEFORE PEOPLE HERE START ACCUSING AND HURTING OTHERS, HOW ABOUT YOU LISTEN TO WHAT GOD SAID "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN THROW THE FIRST STONE."
IT IS A MISCONSEPTION THAT AIDS ARE GIVEN BY GAYS, PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY GET THIER FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE OPENING THIER MOUTHS LIKE A DRUNK AT A FRAT PARTY.
GOD HATES NOBODY. HIS LOVE IS INCREDIBLEY AMAZING. EVEN THOSE WHO HURT OTHERS ARE LOVED. EVERYONE IS LOVED. WETHER YOUR GAY OR STRAIGHT OR BLACK OR WHITE OR MEXICAN OR WHATEVER. EVERYONE IS LOVED.
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THE faggot would have died any ways of AIDS bobby great job more gay people need to commit suicide less garbage in the world gay people kill yourself .
@Phillygunstars dude not cool gays are still humans they are no different from you and i. its people like you that makes some LGBT people stay in the closet
I wanted to smack the mother or something when she had to go wash her hands after she met david. Seriously? Her son's dead, and she's still tweaking over gays.
I don’t think it was just because he was gay. It was more likely because “he’s gay and he has AIDS.” Even in the 90’s, the people in the town where I grew up were convinced that all gay men had AIDS. You didn’t shake their hand, you didn’t use the same dinnerware, and you sure as hell never used the same bathroom. It sounds crazy, I know, but rarely do we look back on history and say, “Wow, look at how smart we were!”
@Caligurl123304 I agree. I'm a devout Catholic and have never passed judgement on anyone's who's gay. Faith is not about making you feel morally superior. As tragic as it is for a parent to lose a child, it's all that mother's fault. I know she became more open minded, but it sucks that it had to take her son's death to undstand. So it was too little too late. My mom's even said that if me or any of my sibs were gay, she wouldn't step foot in our house.
@Ohaiku91 i think pull yourself together it means don't let your family ( children ) go again, because she let him ( Bobby ) go, and she loose him, sorry my english bad ;)
I don't think I've ever seen a movie that I've identified with more than this one. My family is very anti-gay, I don't want to think of what would happen if they knew I was gay. There's just no way I'll ever be able to do it.
@EnolaGay82 That's good. When I saw your original post, I thought you might be in a difficult spot. I hate to see gay people go through difficult times just trying to be who they are. It has only been a few years that your family has had to adjust. There is still time for them to make progress. It might take meeting a boyfriend of yours before they get past the denial "its-only-a-phase" stage. They will eventually realize that their denial is the "phase," not your orientation.
@EnolaGay82 So you are 27yo now. You knew when you were 8 years old. You have been working through this for yourself for about 19 years. You may choose to never tell your family. That is your choice. But you will likely find it a continuing source of stress that can cause a lot of unexplained anger for you until you find resolve with your famil
@EnolaGay82 y. You have to judge whether they might react violently, in which case you might not want to tell them. My experience for all but two gay men I have known, is that the family reacts dramatically and negatively to begin with, but they eventually realize that they have no choice but to accept who you really are.
@EnolaGay82 I only know personally of two cases that ended very negatively. One was a friend raised Mormon whose family cut off all communication for over 20 years and another friend whose father got a gun out and shot at him as he literally ran away. He has not communicated with his father for about 18 years, but he secretly sees his mother.
@EnolaGay82 Living in SF, I have known scores of gay refugees, but only two had very bad outcomes of opening up to their families. You have to use your judgement, but in most cases people find new understanding with their families and an increased capacity to have loving relationships b/c they are no longer full of anger and fear.
@EnolaGay82 When I was 17 years old, my worst fear was my parents finding out. I don't know how old you are, but it can take time for parents to come around. Remember that most gay people have about 8 or more years to figure it out for themselves before they tell their parents. It might take your parents just as long as it took you. My conservative Catholic Republican parents changed their views eventually, but it took a while.
I am Catholic and this is exactly why my family and I no longer practice our faith. It is all bullshit. The poor young fella was told so much crap it became, insane for him to even think straight. His mother never ever knew him. His family knew him but sure as hell not his mother. I repeat, she was one real dam stupid bitch as she hid behind religion. She should be dead not Bobby. Dam her all to hell.
I understand why the Catholic church decided suicide was a sin. They realized it was dangerous for people to think it wasn't because then when things got hard they may turn straight to suicide thinking they're going to a place better than earth. But at the same time it still causes pain to think they go to hell for it as well because then the family not only feels bad that they killed themselves but also feels bad because they think they're in hell now. Suicide is a serious lose/lose situation.
Bobby's mom was just believing what she'd been told from the church, its unfortunate that she was so extreme about it.. because parents should accept their children for who they are... but honestly good came out of a horrible situation. If Bobby had never killed himself, his mother probably wouldn't have done all the good she did for the gay and lesbian community for equal rights.. its sad that Bobby got to the place where he thought taking his life was the only way out though... RIP Bobby
@Jezzgirl92 That's the very unfortunate part about some things. Sometimes it takes something really tragic for people to realize they were wrong about something. I just wish she would have realized it another way. Then Bobby could still be alive and she wouldn't be left with a lifetime of guilt.
@checkkmmeoutt bobby went to the club he meet david at before he killed himself looking for david because he knew he was losing it when he got there he saw david stumble out with another man it was never clear that he cheated but it was implied
I am dying to know what is the name of the song that comes out where bobbys mom is crying in the bathroom it goes something like "things will get better just give it time" please anyone who knows let me know what is the name of that song
Well I hope his mother is happy. It was actually she who started this. She should be the one who was in that coffin, not bobby. Atleast it's just a movie
That's the part when I started to cry.... And it lasted til the end, my Tears were flowing and flowing.. One of the greatest and saddest Films I've ever seen!! More People should know this movie! (Sry for my Bad english)
He was perfectly normal. He just wanted to live a normal life....He just wanted people to LET him live a normal life. And he wanted his mother's love, because he loved her. She loved him, but her delusions blinded her to what was important.
This is why these issues still need to be addressed. It's been thirty years and this still happens. You don't have to make a big scene over it. But if you know someone who is homosexual or bisexual and in this position, just love them...thats all it takes
first I am sad and crying. Then I am pissed at the mom and want to punch her. Then I get all sad and start crying again. This movie is an emotional roller coaster.
Bobby did not commit suicide. He's murdered by the ignorance of a barbaric church. While China is often condemned for its totalitarianism (which is not to a very large extend), I'll hv to say to the world: U think that China's bad? Let me tell u: it doesn't happen even in China!
AkasakaS2000 1 week ago
So Sad T^T
sobea2st 2 weeks ago
@iluvhopndballet
Siete i benvenuti "Bellezza"! Sono solo uno yankee "che ha speso un sacco di tempo nel corso degli anni in Italia, e adorare il popolo, cultura, lingua, ecc storia mi piacerebbe un giorno visitare Malta, l'unico seggio tempo della" Ospitalieri "!
Ti Amo Molto Mia Amica!
Blaine
blainebill39 1 month ago
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blainebill39 1 month ago
I cried on this whole part
angelsara100 1 month ago
Yes this is a sad story...but its a story, I argue of HOPE
the transformation of Bobby's Mother and surrounding family is extraordinary
Yes they lost a son and brother....but by re-telling this story...Bobby has saved thousands of lives
Peace Out
sydneygayboi 3 months ago
@sydneygayboi
Ciao Bello
Drew my "Sweet Aussie" friend! You truly get the essence of Bobby and Mary Griffiths' story! Not merely to wallow or get mired in the tragedy of what occurred all those years ago! But like Mary to transcend and transform ones' heart, so we might do what we are able to prevent this from happening to others! As Bobby's old lover/boyfriend, I am "Over the Moon" with gratitude and "Pride" in how you've expressed it thus!
Tuo Amico Per Sempre! (Your Friend Always)
Blaine
blainebill39 3 months ago
As I have stated in an earlier post. This was set in 1982 !!!
The United States of America was a very homophobic place under Reagan
Being gay in American Suburbia especially with Christian Parents was very hard for many.
I realize it must be hard for some who were born in the late 1980's or 1990's to understand and how Homophobic America was...and in some parts still is today.But at least Gay Teens have the internet today if feeling depressed and can seek help.
RIP BOBBY
sydneygayboi 3 months ago 3
if i ever have a son or daughter who's gay/lesbian, i'll make sure they know that there's nothing wrong with that and that they're loved no matter what! the world doesn't need any more real life, bobby-like stories
bfold11 3 months ago 2
MY KIDS CAN BE GAY IF THEY WANT POOR BOBBY :'(
ukaisukaok 3 months ago
this story took place in what 1979? I saw a dishwasher in their kitchen, did they have those back then? lol
raidersonlyblog 3 months ago
@raidersonlyblog Yup. The early ones . In middle class households, many homes did not
sydneygayboi 3 months ago
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I'm Christian, but I think god loves everyone, including homosexuals, for just the way they are.
So stick it up your ass you brianwashed conservative Christians!
BayAreaOrBust 3 months ago
This makes me sick to watch... :'[
PenIsland34567 4 months ago 13
i'm literally crying as i am typing this...... what an abscene amount of ignorance for his mother to have tortured her son to commit suicide... it twists my heart. let this be a lesson to all of you guys....... accept your offspring for who they are.... a soul NEVER changes! r.i.p. bobby and all others who have suffered like him.
charleechafiare90 4 months ago 25
lol
Paperazzichic 4 months ago
What the Hell is wrong with the priest during the eulogy?
macrent2 5 months ago 5
@macrent2
That really was horrible. I would have walked out, stamping my feet hard on the floor just to show my distaste for that disgusting eulogy
CesMan83 1 month ago
such a sad film and story, played brilliantly by the actors and actress's! x
88alexpower 5 months ago
I total would be up for some man-on-man love with the dad, mmmmm yeah......
TheJakster101 5 months ago
Although this was a great movie, I would recommend actually reading the book. Some of the scenes in the movie were rewritten from similar situations. For example the scene with David, who is not based on anyone, refers to a time when Mary threw out a coat after finding out that a woman she lent it to had a lesbian encounter. Later when asked by her niece why she did that, she said "You can't be gay and love God."
rohe7291 6 months ago
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blainebill39 5 months ago
@rohe7291
@rohe7291
Ciao!
Thank you my friend for advising people who are interested in learning more about Bobby and Mary Griffiths' story, than is possible from a 90 minute, ableit well done made for tv movie! As Bobby Griffiths' old lover/boyfriend, I've been trying to do the same and gently so mind you, for almost two years now! But yours' here is the first comment I've thus seen that echoes that notion! Again my my friend I'm so grateful to you for this!
Sincerely,
Blaine Andrews
blainebill39 5 months ago
@blainebill39
I think reading the book will help young people understand that their parents sometimes have little or no knowledge about a lot of things. It not only enlightened Mom but it helped me understand what she was so upset over.
rohe7291 5 months ago
wat the song at the end call someone plz tell me and the move made me cry and i am a guy
gray14jamie 6 months ago
I wanna punch that priest. His word show exactly what is wrong with the whole sin system like Christiany uses. First you name homosexuality a sin, something that people cant help being. And tada! You are able to call people sinners. You can now look down on them, call them fags, do the "you will go to hell" rant. FUN! And you can feel so superior about yourself. Way to go, and all on someone else expense.
Ranokian 6 months ago 3
I absolutely LOSE it every time I see the scene where she's making the sandwich and Bobby is suddenly there again. Then the waterworks continue when she's sobbing in the bathroom
cheercats07 6 months ago
oh here come the tears T-T
TheAnnoyingThing1915 6 months ago
omg,...i wanna punch his mom in the face. Goes to show ignorance is alive and well. smh
LizzieAN 6 months ago
@LizzieAN
Ciao Bella!
Cara Ragazza Bella! (Dear Beautiful Girl)
Though I love your strong reaction to the character that Sigourney Weaver portrayed, might Bobbys' old lover/boyfriend "Blaine" here assure you that the real "Mary Griffith" has in fact been nothing like that person for quite some time now! Yes ignorance does still exist , but I truly believe that in the almost 30 years since Bobbys' death it is finally and thankfully in its death throws! Hope and love are winning out!
Blaine
blainebill39 6 months ago
@blainebill39 I don't know if David was a character that represented you, but I believe in my heart that seeing David with someone else is what finally broke him. I find it hard to watch David show up at the funeral and offer condolences to Bobbies mother when in truth he was cheating on Bobby behind his back when Bobby needed him most. If you are David, shame on you, because you share in the cause of his death. I am a 25 year old gay man and I know first hand what the gay world is like. Sad
mikesegaline 6 months ago
@mikesegaline
Apparently he was a "Screen Writers Vehicle" or fictitious! Ed said a "Composite" if you will of a number of people Bobby may have known! In Mr. Aarons' book I appear to have been the only "Love Interest" that Bobby journaled about! My name is first mentioned on page 130, in the chapter entitled "The Leper"! But "Sweetie Boy" that is remarkably dear of you, and you're absolutely right I would feel shame and even more guilt had that been the case!
Sinceramente!
Blaine Andrews
blainebill39 6 months ago
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blainebill39 6 months ago
@mikesegaline
Ciao Bello!
Mike "Ragazzo Dolce" (Sweetie Boy) yes my friend in the context of Lifetimes' Dramatization of Bobbys' story I would have to agree with you! But honey if you have an opportunity to acquire a copy of the late Leroy Aarons' book you won't find any mention of a "Love Interest" in Portland! At an event last month involving most of the Griffith' family, I sat next to Bobbys' brother Ed and asked him about the "David" character in the movie!
blainebill39 6 months ago
Sad scene ="(
LizzieAN 6 months ago
@darion2091 that made me lol'd
H3yItzKevin 6 months ago
his mother should've jumped over a bridge instead of bobby.
darion2091 7 months ago 2
Religion the root of all evil...the starter of wars,hate,bigotry, misunderstanding etc etc etc... who needs a malevolent, punishing God?!? This is from a recovering Catholic who is tired of the pontificating BS....
dolcevitausa 7 months ago
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dolcevitausa 7 months ago
uugghhh Effin David! ..... why did he cheat on Bobby! come on !
edhernan534 7 months ago
Oh god....this movie...my eyes are all wet...
And people, just because some Christians are like that, not all are.
personthatneverwas 7 months ago
The pastor was a dick, you dn't talk abuy people like that when a person dies
sosterday123 7 months ago
Washing one's hands after shaking hands with a gay person and throwing the plate away after a gay person ate from it? How Christian.
j4unumber1 7 months ago
I'd cry like a baby with this scene.
ov7spears 7 months ago
I swear, if a preacher spoke about sin at MY son's funeral, I would SMACK him.
KittenCat2223 8 months ago 3
does bobby death has do anything with david cheating on him?
Vietnamemperor12346 8 months ago
:'(
eman0l0 8 months ago
Fuck. If they talked about my sins at my funeral, I'd jump out of the casket and shove a bible up someone's arse..... This movie makes me cry. So heartbreaking to hate for one portion of a person's life.
MarleyMe95 8 months ago
Didn't Bobby catch David coming out of the club with another guy during the time he needed to talk to him the most? Wasn't that the straw that broke the camel's back?
joeraysp 8 months ago
@joeraysp Yup. Poor Bobby.
KittenCat2223 8 months ago
1:36 how could you not cry at this part?
mydesigirl84 8 months ago
my head fucking hurts from crying ! I've never cried this much
OneMileyCyrusFanVlog 8 months ago
It hurts
killir2006 8 months ago
i almost feel like a fool for watching this movie...Because its hits just to close to home. This movie was based on a true story that took place 30 years ago and 30 years nothing has changed. If that were my best friends funeral, and his christian mother who spoke nearly the same words bobby's mother did to my friend sitting there, letting that pastor speak like that about her own son, I would have set that church on fire.
FancyCupOfTea 9 months ago 4
How dare David show up at Bobby's funeral. The audacity. When he cheated on him?? Asshole
cuttinlemonz 9 months ago
@cuttinlemonz it's unknown if David actually cheated on him, Bobby just saw him walking out the club laughing with another man, it looks like cheating but it was probably a missunderstanding, If David did cheat I don't think he would have gone to the funeral.
FancyCupOfTea 9 months ago
@FancyCupOfTea
Yeah, it's been an on-going debate if that really was David running out of the club. I say it isn't David, but some dude that strongly resembles him. My perception as to why Bobby was crying was due to the fact that he would never find true happiness
CesMan83 8 months ago
@cuttinlemonz
Ciao!
I know what you mean sweetheart! Though I was Bobby Griffiths' lover and then good friend after he moved up
to Oregon! I wasn't informed of Bobby's suicide until months after it occurred! To this day, I have never been to his gravesite! It's just been all too painful up to this point, but my Dad still lives in Walnut Creek and he liked Bobby very much! Perhaps I could ask him to escort me there!
Blaine
blainebill39 8 months ago
I'm sorry, but I'm glad the mother feels like shit. It is her fault Bobby was so depressed. She was the one who wouldn't stop throwing scripture at him, and not accepting him.. and she was the one who basically told him he wasn't her son anymore. How could someone treat their own child that way?? It just baffles me how selfish and ignorant and cruel people are.. especially when it's to their own family.
NikkiMikki789 9 months ago
I blame his mother
alexmoore36 9 months ago
I reckon that my message is gonna be really superficial after this touching scene, but hey I have to say it... bobby's boyfriend was soo damn hot lol
raurino 9 months ago
:'(
leydergiovany 9 months ago
why camera is so freaking shaky .
kyotoloto 10 months ago
This movie was very inspirational. I'm a devout Catholic, and yes I'd be the first to admit that I'm not crazy about homosexuality. But I've never passed judgment on anybody that is gay. I have a couple friends that are and they're some of the nicest people you could ever meet. The way I see it, you're not God, He should be the judge on others.
The sad thing is, my mother has actually said if that if one of us was gay she wouldn't step foot on our house.
DaydreamBeliever81 10 months ago
I had a friend like bobby. Lost him 2 months ago and my life hasnt been the same.
Gregsta138 10 months ago
i don't understand how the top rated comments are so angry. O_o hypocrisy much? i mean seriously, they're as shallow and unsympathetic as those bigots.
uiluj13 10 months ago
@uiluj13
So its wrong to be intolerant of intolerant people? Anger is perfectly justifiable.
loner1878 9 months ago
@loner1878 justified but it doesn't make it right. hate begets hate bro.
uiluj13 9 months ago
@uiluj13
Hate and love are two sides of the same coin. Can't have one without the other.
loner1878 9 months ago
@loner1878 you are defined by the choices you make. if life is as simple as just hate or love, you chose the lesser of the two. that choice is now part of you and nothing can change that.
uiluj13 9 months ago
@uiluj13
Do you usually go around preaching on youtube?
loner1878 9 months ago
@loner1878 you're the one who has Kira as an avatar =P but no i don't preach, i discuss. if i wanted to preach i would've gone around responding to people's comments and telling them they're wrong, like what you did haha
all i'm saying is that it's disturbing to me, that when watching a clip of a true story of a person dying, all people do is scream and yell in anger.
uiluj13 9 months ago
@uiluj13
Kira rocks :)
LOL, where did I use the word "wrong?" Point it out please.
Yeah, how dare people be outraged at a young man being driven to kill himself because of the intolerance of others. If its too much for you maybe you shouldn't be on youtube.
loner1878 9 months ago
WTF I CAN'T STOP THESE TEARS FROM FLOWING!!!!! BOBBY I LOVE YOU!!!! U ARE A CHILD OF GOD NO MATTER GAY OR STRAIGHT!!!
LGAGAFAN21 10 months ago
Great movie about why religion is such a fucking joke! If God is all knowing then god shouldn't be surprised about the current state of things!
Or maybe there is no God!
braveheart1779 10 months ago
I can't believe this: Bobby killed himself and they're still blaming this on him? "Sin begets sin"? Really, though?
savannahwilliams0 10 months ago
We (the community ) should get together to remake this movie in various languages!!!!!!!!!
lunaandproud 10 months ago
I tottaly understand how Mary feels, but its her ignorance that killed her own son! And damn I hated the part where she threw the plate away and scrubed her hands, I wish I would had been the cousin, I'd told her more than she had to hear! >;-(
lunaandproud 10 months ago
how could they sit there and watch that guy say that shit about bobby? AT HIS OWN FUNERAL?!
lacross385 10 months ago
@lacross385 I didn't hear anybody talking down on him at his funeral! ~_^ (im not contradicting you, just wondering)!
lunaandproud 10 months ago
@lunaandproud listen to what the preacher guy said
lacross385 10 months ago
Was David a real person?
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 11 months ago
i really feel for mary. her intention for saving bobby to hell is good, but it was also her ignorance that killed him. im so glad that shes doing what shes doing today. bobby will definitely feel the love and support from above. <3
vicked914 11 months ago
i wish i had a cousin like that. shes awesome
vicked914 11 months ago 2
But otherwise, my best friend who I had since first grade turned out to be gay and didn't come out until are sophmore year of high school, I didn't care, gay or not he will always be my best friend and he has my care and support.
maxb89321 11 months ago 2
I started crying at the part where Bobby came back to her but it was only a dream. That happened to me over an ex gf once:,(
maxb89321 11 months ago
Bobby's family i hope you're happy now...because of your pressuring and negative comments he killed himself...
jenntot10 11 months ago
so one side could believe the reightious path was ending a sinfull life
another side could say the reightious path was fighting to be yourself and trying to have some kind of possitive impact on society, eg. making society more accepting, loving, understanding, caring, etc. :L
AllTheNamesAreFTaken 11 months ago
TO HATE.
MrProudiam 11 months ago
A HUMAN BIENG CREATED BY GOD TO TAKE ITS OWN LIFE AWAY. YEA RIGHT.............. THERE THE GARBAGE.............
YOUR A HYPOCRITE AGAINST YOUR OWN WORDS. DUDE LETS GROW UP HERE AND MAKE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO YOUTH INSTEAD OF TEACHING THEM
MrProudiam 11 months ago
MAYBE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAY GAY PEOPLE SHOULD GO KILL THEMSELVES BECUASE ITS LESS GARBAGE, HOW ABOUT YOU GO TAKE A GOOOOOOOD LOOOOOONG HARD LOOK AT YOURSELF AND SEE THE GARBAGE THATS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. YOUR TELLING GAYS TO GO KILL THEMSELVES BUT YET YOUR TELLING A HUMAN
MrProudiam 11 months ago
GAY PEOPLE ARE NOT GARBAGE. BEFORE PEOPLE HERE START ACCUSING AND HURTING OTHERS, HOW ABOUT YOU LISTEN TO WHAT GOD SAID "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN THROW THE FIRST STONE."
MrProudiam 11 months ago
IT IS A MISCONSEPTION THAT AIDS ARE GIVEN BY GAYS, PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY GET THIER FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE OPENING THIER MOUTHS LIKE A DRUNK AT A FRAT PARTY.
MrProudiam 11 months ago
GOD HATES NOBODY. HIS LOVE IS INCREDIBLEY AMAZING. EVEN THOSE WHO HURT OTHERS ARE LOVED. EVERYONE IS LOVED. WETHER YOUR GAY OR STRAIGHT OR BLACK OR WHITE OR MEXICAN OR WHATEVER. EVERYONE IS LOVED.
MrProudiam 11 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
THE faggot would have died any ways of AIDS bobby great job more gay people need to commit suicide less garbage in the world gay people kill yourself .
Phillygunstars 11 months ago
@Phillygunstars dude not cool gays are still humans they are no different from you and i. its people like you that makes some LGBT people stay in the closet
Sammy125346 11 months ago 2
@Phillygunstars Would he love your hateful words?
Neogenx616 11 months ago
@Phillygunstars can you kill yourself too please :)
DarkneszYTB 10 months ago
this part made me cry :(
FlackBenjamin 11 months ago
Organized religion is the evil
KingJames212121 11 months ago
I HATE THIS MOVIE
IT MADE ME CRY!!
Dx
it was good....BUT IT MADE ME CRY SO I HATE IT!!
KuroMizuu 1 year ago
I wanted to smack the mother or something when she had to go wash her hands after she met david. Seriously? Her son's dead, and she's still tweaking over gays.
Caligurl123304 1 year ago 63
@Caligurl123304 I think it was also cause she thought she would get AIDS when she touched a gay person
softballchic25 10 months ago
@Caligurl123304
I don’t think it was just because he was gay. It was more likely because “he’s gay and he has AIDS.” Even in the 90’s, the people in the town where I grew up were convinced that all gay men had AIDS. You didn’t shake their hand, you didn’t use the same dinnerware, and you sure as hell never used the same bathroom. It sounds crazy, I know, but rarely do we look back on history and say, “Wow, look at how smart we were!”
CheshireDudeNC 10 months ago
@Caligurl123304 I agree. I'm a devout Catholic and have never passed judgement on anyone's who's gay. Faith is not about making you feel morally superior. As tragic as it is for a parent to lose a child, it's all that mother's fault. I know she became more open minded, but it sucks that it had to take her son's death to undstand. So it was too little too late. My mom's even said that if me or any of my sibs were gay, she wouldn't step foot in our house.
DaydreamBeliever81 10 months ago
@Caligurl123304 he's the one who was cheating on him. Bobby needed to someone to talk and finds him cheatin on him.
Jstevensdude 9 months ago
@Caligurl123304 right, with a mother like that its no wonder she turned out the way she did!
mydesigirl84 8 months ago
Okay, the grandmother is a total bitch. "Pull yourself together?" WTF, her son is dead you old bitch!
Ohaiku91 1 year ago 37
@Ohaiku91 i think pull yourself together it means don't let your family ( children ) go again, because she let him ( Bobby ) go, and she loose him, sorry my english bad ;)
Natalia55776 5 months ago
damn you david i hope you feel better about your self now after you cheated on him. jerk.
Inuyashadrona 1 year ago
David is such a jerk
dimasyang 1 year ago
@dimasyang why?
jcac1023 11 months ago
@jcac1023 I watched the clip much time ago. if I was not wrong, David was not there for Bobby when in need.
dimasyang 11 months ago
I don't think I've ever seen a movie that I've identified with more than this one. My family is very anti-gay, I don't want to think of what would happen if they knew I was gay. There's just no way I'll ever be able to do it.
Chilean88 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 That's good. When I saw your original post, I thought you might be in a difficult spot. I hate to see gay people go through difficult times just trying to be who they are. It has only been a few years that your family has had to adjust. There is still time for them to make progress. It might take meeting a boyfriend of yours before they get past the denial "its-only-a-phase" stage. They will eventually realize that their denial is the "phase," not your orientation.
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 So you are 27yo now. You knew when you were 8 years old. You have been working through this for yourself for about 19 years. You may choose to never tell your family. That is your choice. But you will likely find it a continuing source of stress that can cause a lot of unexplained anger for you until you find resolve with your famil
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 y. You have to judge whether they might react violently, in which case you might not want to tell them. My experience for all but two gay men I have known, is that the family reacts dramatically and negatively to begin with, but they eventually realize that they have no choice but to accept who you really are.
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 I only know personally of two cases that ended very negatively. One was a friend raised Mormon whose family cut off all communication for over 20 years and another friend whose father got a gun out and shot at him as he literally ran away. He has not communicated with his father for about 18 years, but he secretly sees his mother.
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 Living in SF, I have known scores of gay refugees, but only two had very bad outcomes of opening up to their families. You have to use your judgement, but in most cases people find new understanding with their families and an increased capacity to have loving relationships b/c they are no longer full of anger and fear.
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
i m so mad that it takes sum1z death to make sum1 realize their wrong...
JAYJAY70693 1 year ago
@EnolaGay82 When I was 17 years old, my worst fear was my parents finding out. I don't know how old you are, but it can take time for parents to come around. Remember that most gay people have about 8 or more years to figure it out for themselves before they tell their parents. It might take your parents just as long as it took you. My conservative Catholic Republican parents changed their views eventually, but it took a while.
CalifaJohn 1 year ago
David's a douche. Why the hell did he cheat on Bobby?! D:< Then to sit there and act all upset in front of the parents. Pssh, asshole.
IluvKirito 1 year ago
daughter: DADDDY!!
Dad: Yeeello?
haha who answers the phone like that when ur daughter hands it to you on the floor crying
wouldy0ukindly 1 year ago
@wouldy0ukindly Haha I never got that either xD
IluvKirito 1 year ago
This is so sad...but i have to admit that i started laughing at the brothers reaction cuz it reminded me of that scene from troll 2 haha
wouldy0ukindly 1 year ago
I am Catholic and this is exactly why my family and I no longer practice our faith. It is all bullshit. The poor young fella was told so much crap it became, insane for him to even think straight. His mother never ever knew him. His family knew him but sure as hell not his mother. I repeat, she was one real dam stupid bitch as she hid behind religion. She should be dead not Bobby. Dam her all to hell.
TheJohnlennongirl 1 year ago 3
the one person who dislikes this can jump of a damn bridge.
fotballlee 1 year ago 5
I understand why the Catholic church decided suicide was a sin. They realized it was dangerous for people to think it wasn't because then when things got hard they may turn straight to suicide thinking they're going to a place better than earth. But at the same time it still causes pain to think they go to hell for it as well because then the family not only feels bad that they killed themselves but also feels bad because they think they're in hell now. Suicide is a serious lose/lose situation.
DisWldFrk90 1 year ago
I cried so much, i got a nosebleed. I havent had one since i was 5. Im 16. TxT
WiccanLullaby 1 year ago
I'm sorry. regardless of what the mother said she was in trouble herself and needed help. That grandma...on the otherhand...is a bitch =_=
doggygenesis 1 year ago
Bobby's mom was just believing what she'd been told from the church, its unfortunate that she was so extreme about it.. because parents should accept their children for who they are... but honestly good came out of a horrible situation. If Bobby had never killed himself, his mother probably wouldn't have done all the good she did for the gay and lesbian community for equal rights.. its sad that Bobby got to the place where he thought taking his life was the only way out though... RIP Bobby
Jezzgirl92 1 year ago
@Jezzgirl92 That's the very unfortunate part about some things. Sometimes it takes something really tragic for people to realize they were wrong about something. I just wish she would have realized it another way. Then Bobby could still be alive and she wouldn't be left with a lifetime of guilt.
DisWldFrk90 1 year ago
@Jezzgirl92 I honestly feel so only did the good deeds to relieve her guilty conscience as emotionally she did kill her son in that way.
TheJohnlennongirl 1 year ago
The music from 1:55-2:42 is absolutely beautiful!!! This is definitely 1 of my most fav. Lifetime movies!!!
TheStarSorceress 1 year ago
wtf he wasnt lost!!! being gay is not a sin!!!!!!!!
LALAlucky27 1 year ago
@checkkmmeoutt bobby went to the club he meet david at before he killed himself looking for david because he knew he was losing it when he got there he saw david stumble out with another man it was never clear that he cheated but it was implied
kakairuislove 1 year ago
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aliimam5 1 year ago
did Daveid cheat on Bobby???????? i never understood that part???
MyTalkShow1992 1 year ago
@MyTalkShow1992 yup....read kakairuislove's comment :)
gaylolful 1 year ago
It's not the fault of sin.
It's fault of all you FUCKING BIGGOTS!
Yakuza0234 1 year ago 4
I am dying to know what is the name of the song that comes out where bobbys mom is crying in the bathroom it goes something like "things will get better just give it time" please anyone who knows let me know what is the name of that song
musicandlyrics0101 1 year ago
I hate how the pastor spoke at Bobby's funeral.
BellieTheShortyDoll 1 year ago 21
@BellieTheShortyDoll How much you want to bet that something bad could be found on his life? Mr. Holier than though.
TheJohnlennongirl 1 year ago
how DARE that Priest talk like that at bobby's funeral! if somone ever talked like that at my sons funeral i would kill them!
NathanJesseMcCarthy 1 year ago 5
@NathanJesseMcCarthy I know...I was so mad that his family members didn't do anything...
gaylolful 1 year ago
"why do you remain silent" I've said those words so many times when pouring my heart out to god. Yep I like this movie.
albert23051987 1 year ago 3
2:02 is perfect beyond words.
loner1878 1 year ago
homophobes should watch it
nooruless77 1 year ago
Well I hope his mother is happy. It was actually she who started this. She should be the one who was in that coffin, not bobby. Atleast it's just a movie
mecko21 1 year ago 2
@mecko21 based on a true story.
lilpainter11 1 year ago
@mecko21
Its a true story! His mother is alive and active in LGBT rights now.
loner1878 1 year ago
@mecko21 No it is not just a movie. It is a TRUE movie about real people. This really happened!
TheJohnlennongirl 1 year ago
That's the part when I started to cry.... And it lasted til the end, my Tears were flowing and flowing.. One of the greatest and saddest Films I've ever seen!! More People should know this movie! (Sry for my Bad english)
Southshaddow 1 year ago 2
He was perfectly normal. He just wanted to live a normal life....He just wanted people to LET him live a normal life. And he wanted his mother's love, because he loved her. She loved him, but her delusions blinded her to what was important.
This is why these issues still need to be addressed. It's been thirty years and this still happens. You don't have to make a big scene over it. But if you know someone who is homosexual or bisexual and in this position, just love them...thats all it takes
XtremeDreamerX 1 year ago 4
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XtremeDreamerX 1 year ago
When she went and washed her hands, I got SO furios.
whoastepback 1 year ago 2
If my mother caused my sibling to do this I would never speak to her again.
lexii314 1 year ago
this movie's gotta be one of the saddest i've ever seen
Suffocatedbetrayal 1 year ago
this movie gotta be one of the saddest i've ever seen :'(
Suffocatedbetrayal 1 year ago
The pastor still peddling vile Christian nonesense even at the funeral.
MegaGayjesus 1 year ago 2
david did not cheat on bobby, that wasn't david. poor choice of casting a random brown haired gay guy outside on the street, but it wasn't David.
fjdksla243 1 year ago
first I am sad and crying. Then I am pissed at the mom and want to punch her. Then I get all sad and start crying again. This movie is an emotional roller coaster.
britainrocks18 1 year ago
I CRIED!!!!!!!....
:(
titoVir 1 year ago
Oh good lord. This is so sad. I only wish that the world could stop discriminating against these people. Seriously they just want to be LOVED :/
jmacjr101 1 year ago
@SarahDemetri I agree. If Bobby was so amazing, why did he cheat on him?
XfansRevenge20 1 year ago 20
@XfansRevenge20 when did it say david cheated on bobby?
GiraffesMH 1 year ago
@XfansRevenge20 sometimes when people are down. we often see something that is not really what they are.. ergo.. he though david cheated on him
alexis001 1 year ago
@XfansRevenge20 Because, the gay world is very promiscuous as the straight world can be.
TheJohnlennongirl 1 year ago