Seeing and reading are the same thing...it's all part of the same picture. Where did Mckenna's inspiration come from, besides psychedelics...books and reading...O_o...the same with television, the Internet, music, movies...etc...they ALL have something to say and reflect something. People need to ask more QUESTIONS...why are they telling me this?...what are they NOT telling me?...no matter the source and that would include Mckenna.
@hudna1 Interesting that you would say that, because reading is just focusing your seeing onto symbols that represent imaginary concepts that you use to visualize something in your head. In other words seeing is a pre-requisite of reading, if you train yourself to just see better you won't be exclusively lost in words and symbols all the time. Reading is a conceptual fragment of seeing so it is hardly "more truth oriented".
there aint nuthin wrong comin home after a long days work and chillin watchin a bita south park/simpsons/family guy!!! :) but i do agree on d fact that u have to keep it in moderation! ur mind will turn to mush if ur a couch potatoe!
i liked the video shown during mckenna's speech, but all this "hypnotizing t.v." stuff is stupid cuz i never stare blankly at a t.v. screen. i follow the plot, i look at the scenery, i turn off the sound when ads come on cuz i can't stand them, some times i yell at the ppl on screen & should i have 2 go 2 the wash room, i get off the couch. i don't just sit there like an inactive paralyzed lump of flesh with my eyes stead fastly gazing "in 2" the t.v. screen. so all this stuff is dumb.
@restlesspride666 i don't watch stupid programs. in fact, i barely watch t.v. at all any more be cause firstly, too many commercials and secondly, t.v. is too stupid to watch any more. see, i use my brains. if some thing is stupid, i don't involve my self in it.
@restlesspride666 may be that's true for every one else, but when i was growing up, t.v. programs fired my imagination. got me thinking and imagining... though t.v. was a bit better when i was growing up.
I like a lot of what Terence McKenna has to say about government, culture and human experiences. However, I think it's important to review his ideas with as much skepticism as anybody else's. TV is a kind of drug, but there should be a distinction drawn between trivial nonsense and educational information. He forces people to view the world from his extreme point of view, which is both refreshing and enlightening. I'm grateful for his ideas, but I am still skeptical.
@Hectectica the difference lies in the patents behind tv/monitor electromagnetic effects on the human nervous system and subsequently our behavioural patterns.
the same goes for computer monitors but it has to be programmed directly into the hard drive. most do not have this.
with television it's imbedded in the program mat'l and therefore affects ALL TV's.
I read the patent and it seems that the effects you speak of are independent of a hard drive (but often dependent on video stream), which makes sense, since computer monitors are essentially televisions. Not sure where you got the hard drive bit from.
@Hectectica I re-read it. My misinterpretation was the description of the pulse-modulating program needed to set the electromagnetic frequencies, my monkey brain automatically assumed the program would have to be on the viewer's computer as opposed to the film maker's, web host's, or ISP's.
Thanks for pointing that out though, I suppose that patent technology is likely applied to youtube.
@plmnbvcxz1234567890 check my response to Hectectica for my misinterpretation. the patent explains the difference in how the nervous system manipulating technology is applied to TV's vs computers, and there is a difference.
lol how old am i? old enough to recognize an argument seeker, no thanks.
however, if you're just looking for an audience to flex your hard drive knowledge for, go ahead on bro. i'll facilitate that.
cont'd: it applies to any industry, institution, your personal life, work life, the food you eat, your ingestion of choice (alcohol-novelty, mushrooms-substance), the topics of your conversations, your clothing, music, art........all of these things which cost you a percentage of your time in this dimension...
resist novelty. it is addicting and devolutionary and laced with corporate/political agenda.
search for substance. it is fulfilling and evolutionary.
(This is just my attempt at intelligent discussion, not an argument.)
I find many forms of entertainment very satisfying (sports of all sorts, video games, music, dancing, comedy, etc), and so do many others as well. Enlightenment can leave you satisfied, or it can spark the thirst for more knowledge, in which case you are not satisfied. I also feel resisting novelty altogether would be a rather drab existence for most, and vice versa. Thoughts?
@Hectectica those are good points. i would say that rather than Entertainment and Enlightenment as categories, they would be contexts. or rather, different levels of entertainment.
contextually; i love sports as well. i love the notion of team work, self improvement, and putting a whole hearted effort toward a personal or team goal. that's sports as enlightenment. fans who attend a nascar race with the hope of seeing a crash would be sports as a novelty/entertainment.
@Hectectica same goes for music. comparing within genres i would say that kid rock is a novel rock artist, entertainment, while pink floyd is an enlightening rock group. same for comedy; bill hicks enlightening, carrot top is a novelty.
yes now that you make me thing of it it can't be categorical, it's a contextual thing and the spectrum goes from 100% novelty to 100% substance, and everything in between.
in all facets of life try to be on the substance end of the spectrum for enlightenment
@warriors41 I think the difference between television and the internet/youtube is simply that you are in charge of what information you view. Television is manufactured perception, whereas the internet is free and open, and allows you to create, influence and interact with the information you come into contact with.
@wogboy711 terence said it's not the content that matters, it's just the act of watching the content. In that respect, I think there is no difference between tv and youtube.
The media took a page from Mckenna's playbook and has now decided to not show the brutality of war, much less explain the reasons for which we are fighting them.
@conceitarturo It is Tool's " Vicarious ". Alex Grey's artwork, and inspiration. Tool, you can tell in the song, is definitely inspired by this bit...Which is why, it's probably synched to this particular part of the lecture.
@NightLite08 I went full circle and checked all of that out, you're right it's a prefect match. I apreciate the imagery much more now, I believe all the flying eyeballs represent souls so that's how death is incorporated here.
@Alistar666 yep! I knew Alex before I ever saw this video...which is why it shocked me so much, but seeing the vicarious DVD really enhanced my apreciations of the video...there's still some stuff I'm not sure about, like what the little bug represents
the day i stopped watching fox TV and left arizona was the day
i really got out of prizzzzon
bagoodtube 3 months ago
Seeing and reading are the same thing...it's all part of the same picture. Where did Mckenna's inspiration come from, besides psychedelics...books and reading...O_o...the same with television, the Internet, music, movies...etc...they ALL have something to say and reflect something. People need to ask more QUESTIONS...why are they telling me this?...what are they NOT telling me?...no matter the source and that would include Mckenna.
InsideOUT37 3 months ago
is this footage from a tool video?
zeitguy311 3 months ago
internet is my drug
SmartCompass 3 months ago
TV = Television = Seeing Through Space = Travel =
We all need to read more Marshall McLuhan
Notice that Terence said that TV influenced the conclusion of the Vietnam war.
Can YouTube do the same in Syria, Bahrain, the US, and so on?
TheStylogicalMap 4 months ago
Readers are obviously more truth oriented.
hudna1 4 months ago
@hudna1 Interesting that you would say that, because reading is just focusing your seeing onto symbols that represent imaginary concepts that you use to visualize something in your head. In other words seeing is a pre-requisite of reading, if you train yourself to just see better you won't be exclusively lost in words and symbols all the time. Reading is a conceptual fragment of seeing so it is hardly "more truth oriented".
JarethGT 3 months ago
A similar case could be made about animal abuse.
blackcrow6667 4 months ago
there aint nuthin wrong comin home after a long days work and chillin watchin a bita south park/simpsons/family guy!!! :) but i do agree on d fact that u have to keep it in moderation! ur mind will turn to mush if ur a couch potatoe!
grehan19 4 months ago
The vid was extremely trippy
SnkyCyanTurtle 4 months ago 2
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appidydafoo 4 months ago
i liked the video shown during mckenna's speech, but all this "hypnotizing t.v." stuff is stupid cuz i never stare blankly at a t.v. screen. i follow the plot, i look at the scenery, i turn off the sound when ads come on cuz i can't stand them, some times i yell at the ppl on screen & should i have 2 go 2 the wash room, i get off the couch. i don't just sit there like an inactive paralyzed lump of flesh with my eyes stead fastly gazing "in 2" the t.v. screen. so all this stuff is dumb.
qwyzl 5 months ago
@qwyzl I don't think you understand. Think 'MTV' jersey shore'.
restlesspride666 4 months ago
@restlesspride666 i don't watch stupid programs. in fact, i barely watch t.v. at all any more be cause firstly, too many commercials and secondly, t.v. is too stupid to watch any more. see, i use my brains. if some thing is stupid, i don't involve my self in it.
qwyzl 4 months ago
@qwyzl Television shows take away our imaginations. For the most part. We are easily 'entertained'.
restlesspride666 4 months ago
@restlesspride666 may be that's true for every one else, but when i was growing up, t.v. programs fired my imagination. got me thinking and imagining... though t.v. was a bit better when i was growing up.
qwyzl 4 months ago
goddamn this is fucking crucial .. everyone needs to see this
cstarcrusher 5 months ago 4
TV = Teleport a Vision aka Brainwash. This is why they invented.
MrUberSpanky 5 months ago
All I use my TV for is Mario Kart 64.
MikeRoePhonicsMusic 5 months ago 3
@MikeRoePhonicsMusic hahahaha
kirydawg 5 months ago
I like a lot of what Terence McKenna has to say about government, culture and human experiences. However, I think it's important to review his ideas with as much skepticism as anybody else's. TV is a kind of drug, but there should be a distinction drawn between trivial nonsense and educational information. He forces people to view the world from his extreme point of view, which is both refreshing and enlightening. I'm grateful for his ideas, but I am still skeptical.
thenebbishroute 7 months ago
This talk was enlightening. I love it but I can't help but to say this video was FUCKING NUUUUUUTS
WakeSideLife 7 months ago
Two of the best top comments ever
WakeSideLife 7 months ago
i sold my tv about a month ago, i bought some proper monitor speakers instead XD should have done that a LONG time ago!
Rrrrobbo 8 months ago
Isn't what we just watched essentially television? And was it not enlightening and informative?
Hectectica 9 months ago
@Hectectica the difference lies in the patents behind tv/monitor electromagnetic effects on the human nervous system and subsequently our behavioural patterns.
the same goes for computer monitors but it has to be programmed directly into the hard drive. most do not have this.
with television it's imbedded in the program mat'l and therefore affects ALL TV's.
search US Patent 6506148 for more details.
thumbs up so everyone can read this patent.
thevuduchild 9 months ago
@thevuduchild
I read the patent and it seems that the effects you speak of are independent of a hard drive (but often dependent on video stream), which makes sense, since computer monitors are essentially televisions. Not sure where you got the hard drive bit from.
Hectectica 9 months ago
@Hectectica I re-read it. My misinterpretation was the description of the pulse-modulating program needed to set the electromagnetic frequencies, my monkey brain automatically assumed the program would have to be on the viewer's computer as opposed to the film maker's, web host's, or ISP's.
Thanks for pointing that out though, I suppose that patent technology is likely applied to youtube.
Peace.
thevuduchild 9 months ago
@thevuduchild what if your monitor IS a television or vise versa? And what do you know about hard drives? How old are you?
plmnbvcxz1234567890 9 months ago
@plmnbvcxz1234567890 check my response to Hectectica for my misinterpretation. the patent explains the difference in how the nervous system manipulating technology is applied to TV's vs computers, and there is a difference.
lol how old am i? old enough to recognize an argument seeker, no thanks.
however, if you're just looking for an audience to flex your hard drive knowledge for, go ahead on bro. i'll facilitate that.
Peace
thevuduchild 9 months ago
you've probably heard of TMK's singularity theory and the relationship to novelty.
i have a novelty vs substance thought, where they exist as opposites:
novelty is entertainment
substance is enlightenment
entertainment leaves you dissatisfied (needing more to fill the void of ego)
enlightenment leaves you satisfied (giving you tools to avoid the void of ego)
we're in a (controlled) world with 95% novelty and 5% substance, engineered to exterminate genuine spirituality
thevuduchild 9 months ago
cont'd: it applies to any industry, institution, your personal life, work life, the food you eat, your ingestion of choice (alcohol-novelty, mushrooms-substance), the topics of your conversations, your clothing, music, art........all of these things which cost you a percentage of your time in this dimension...
resist novelty. it is addicting and devolutionary and laced with corporate/political agenda.
search for substance. it is fulfilling and evolutionary.
thevuduchild 9 months ago
@thevuduchild
(This is just my attempt at intelligent discussion, not an argument.)
I find many forms of entertainment very satisfying (sports of all sorts, video games, music, dancing, comedy, etc), and so do many others as well. Enlightenment can leave you satisfied, or it can spark the thirst for more knowledge, in which case you are not satisfied. I also feel resisting novelty altogether would be a rather drab existence for most, and vice versa. Thoughts?
Hectectica 9 months ago
@Hectectica those are good points. i would say that rather than Entertainment and Enlightenment as categories, they would be contexts. or rather, different levels of entertainment.
contextually; i love sports as well. i love the notion of team work, self improvement, and putting a whole hearted effort toward a personal or team goal. that's sports as enlightenment. fans who attend a nascar race with the hope of seeing a crash would be sports as a novelty/entertainment.
thevuduchild 9 months ago
@Hectectica same goes for music. comparing within genres i would say that kid rock is a novel rock artist, entertainment, while pink floyd is an enlightening rock group. same for comedy; bill hicks enlightening, carrot top is a novelty.
yes now that you make me thing of it it can't be categorical, it's a contextual thing and the spectrum goes from 100% novelty to 100% substance, and everything in between.
in all facets of life try to be on the substance end of the spectrum for enlightenment
thevuduchild 9 months ago
@Hectectica That was well said and I particularly enjoy that you actually asked for thoughts! :D
WakeSideLife 7 months ago
A good music video with a TV theme is "The Music Scene - Blockhead" go check it out :)
My question: what's the difference between TV and YouTube?
warriors41 9 months ago
@warriors41 I think the difference between television and the internet/youtube is simply that you are in charge of what information you view. Television is manufactured perception, whereas the internet is free and open, and allows you to create, influence and interact with the information you come into contact with.
Just my opinion.
wogboy711 9 months ago 4
@wogboy711 terence said it's not the content that matters, it's just the act of watching the content. In that respect, I think there is no difference between tv and youtube.
plmnbvcxz1234567890 9 months ago
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thevuduchild 9 months ago
shut up people cause we all STILL watch and enjoy TV / no disrespect to Mckenna
alexxxxxxxXD 10 months ago
@alexxxxxxxXD
no
actgif68 10 months ago
@alexxxxxxxXD I haven't watched tv in years, don't attempt to speak for me.
MindstormRecs 9 months ago
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@MindstormRecs you know you love the travel channel
alexxxxxxxXD 9 months ago
TV = junk, mediocre, parasitic and is threatening to the mind
Terrence McKenna lectures = nourishes, expands and electrifies the mind with curiosity
TheJovanist 1 year ago 39
@TheJovanist watching tv is like spraying black spray paint over your third eye.
LOOTbackwords 1 year ago 53
@LOOTbackwords Lol. You said it better than I did.
TheJovanist 1 year ago
@LOOTbackwords BILL HICKS!
ellenlauraa 11 months ago
@LOOTbackwords for some, for others it's how you open it.
MidnightRayn 10 months ago
@LOOTbackwords yea bill hicks!!
burgerkingmurders 6 months ago
@LOOTbackwords aww good to see a Bill Hicks quote on a Terrance Mckenna video, very fitting.
AquariusRevolution 5 months ago
@LOOTbackwords BILL HICKS : )
Sean5eannery 4 months ago 2
@TheJovanist you're making the same argument that McKenna astutely criticizes in the lecture...
dgmulf 9 months ago
@TheJovanist Yeah tell me about it, i just watched terrance on channel 5, great lecture and so much better with the pictures
writing314 4 months ago
The media took a page from Mckenna's playbook and has now decided to not show the brutality of war, much less explain the reasons for which we are fighting them.
byro1884 1 year ago
I lvoe terrence but I know him well....what is this visualization and who made it? I'd like to acquire it in greater quality and know it's creator
conceitarturo 1 year ago
@conceitarturo It is Tool's " Vicarious ". Alex Grey's artwork, and inspiration. Tool, you can tell in the song, is definitely inspired by this bit...Which is why, it's probably synched to this particular part of the lecture.
NightLite08 1 year ago
@NightLite08 I went full circle and checked all of that out, you're right it's a prefect match. I apreciate the imagery much more now, I believe all the flying eyeballs represent souls so that's how death is incorporated here.
conceitarturo 1 year ago
@conceitarturo Alex grey is a visonary artist who has done DMT/Ayahuasca and it has allowed him to tap within to create his visions...
Alistar666 1 year ago
@Alistar666 yep! I knew Alex before I ever saw this video...which is why it shocked me so much, but seeing the vicarious DVD really enhanced my apreciations of the video...there's still some stuff I'm not sure about, like what the little bug represents
conceitarturo 1 year ago
Thanks for more of Terence's unparalleled insight...
TMKchld 2 years ago