@supercas46 Yes, and Martin was able to hold the fight for the title open to the very last race, one point behind Senna . There, Ayrton Senna solved the problem in his usual way: he ran Martin over. Both were out, Ayrton became the 1983 British F3 Champion.
@gerryff you're right, I checked that up - they didn't collide in the final round. But regardless of that I dare to say that this was the way Ayrton solved problems. de mortuis nil nisi bene, but this is a way of winning I can only despise. A dead hero doesn't automatically make a saint.
@gerryff you're right, I checked that up - they didn't collide in the final round. But regardless of that I dare to say that this was the way Ayrton solved problems. de mortuis nil nisi bene, but this is a way of winning I can only despise. A dead hero doesn't automatically make a saint.
this is the crash where brundle says he can't remember it happening and the first thing he remembers after it he goes to his garage and team manager who asks him if he's ok, brundle says yes, just remind me where we are lol
these stupid fucking course workers...don't they know that by flipping him over at the violent landing and cause serious problems...what is a broken vertebrae was neck to the cord and then they did this shit...done fucking deal
@bdcollecter these are F1 drivers. the highest echelon of all motor-sports. I am not saying you have not done any racing, but even in my club racing, you are trained to look for flags. I have only seen
"one plow" in F1 and that was due to a mechanical issue. Being in the medical field, the aforementioned act, is a "no-no." I can understand your point because his head is exposed, but it is just simple protocol. You can delicately "right" the car, but first you must look to the spine.
he said ken told him after that crash he still has to go and do a quali lap as he had not set a time. after agreeing , he asked ken what track they were at and that was when ken said ok switch the car off.
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No it isn't because it could kill you when your spinal cord gets injured. He didn't have the weight on his head or neck. They build rollover guards for that.
He looked like he might have been pinned by his arm to me. See how it's hanging out the cockpit when the car's upright? Maybe that's the only way they could get him out the car. Having said that, medical care in F1 has come a long way since then.
To be honest what else could they do but flip the car back over. They wouldn't have got him out if he was strapped in and upside down. Safety can only be so good, and frankly after such a massive impact the damage has probably already been done. Any injury would like come from the impact... the whiplash and roll are likely to 'finish off' any major injury such as neck or spine.
but the point is, that where he ended up...whatever damage there was was not going to be made better by turning the car the right way up quickly, so it makes sense to take care and try not to cause any more damage...I suppose there is something to be said for getting the car the right way up quickly so as to check the guy inside is still breathing, but the marshals still didnt need to essentially drop it once it was past vertical...if you watch nowadays, the marshals take so much care...
@wahaya2 back then fires were a real danger, therefore the first thing they always did was get the driver out, now adays they indeed take more time to check if he hasnt broken his back or anything.
@kalava182 Well they aren't as big of a concern as they were then. Certainly fire is a big concern,but the cars have safety measures in place around the fuel tank to prevent the breakout of fire.
yh this has all changed now, try and see the 1994 crash at san marino where barrichello crashed (nearly killing him) and would have made it the thrid in one weekend. the marshal just pushes the car over with no car in the world, shociking if that happened today there would be an uproar!
I believe David Coulthard described this crash as the point when Martin Brundle "ran out of talent in 1984" during the BBC Monaco 2009 race coverage. Harsh! ;)
And would DC have won ONE race with the shit cars Brundle drove? Also, remember that in the second half of 1992, Brundle was OUTSCORING Schumacher at Benetton. True that Schumi won at Spa but his points consistency was horrible. Also, name the driver who crashed in the PITS in Adelaide in 1995... Even Murray Walker couldn't believe his eyes as his priceless commentary shows!
"I believe David Coulthard described this crash as the point when Martin Brundle "ran out of talent in 1984" during the BBC Monaco 2009 race coverage. Harsh! ;)"
In Coulthard's defense it must be said he mostly had champion team mates like Hill, Hakkinen and Raikkonen, and on a good day he beat all of those. Trouble was DC never had good days two or three races in a row. His spin in rain in Nurburgring while leading in 1999 effectively ended his chance to become champion in 1999 (and also denied McLaren the constructors' championship the same year).
the saftey (by the marshals) was so bad then like 1994 when barichello crashed in imola they just pushed the car over rather than protecting his neck.
I got that snippet from Top Gear, in a segment called "Campaign for Real Racing Drivers", which includes Raikkonen, Bellof, Don Garlits, Duncan Hamilton, Dario Franchitti, and if I remember correctly, the legendary James Hunt.
After all these years and having forgotten or been oblivious to so much that I now want to know, it's really appreciated that I can learn these things, even though the nostalgia's quite moving in a way.
David Purley and Gerhard Berger are even bigger heroes in my book. Don't get me wrong, the stewards do a brilliant job usually but nobody expected what those 2 guys did.
I can't remember what race it was but he pulled over at an accident that was more serious than it seemed while all the other drivers were driving past the debris gawping at the wreck.
I doubt he pulled over to help at his own accident..
You might be thinking of Senna helping Comas (Berger and Senna both drove for Mclaren during their careers and that might be where you are confused). In that case, it wasn't so much drivers going past and gawping; Senna was just first to the scene.
Driver's are generally told not to stop at accident sites and let marshalls and doctors do their job. However I've heard that Senna knew what he was doing. I'm not entirely certain if my source is to be trusted, since it is a documentary "film" on Youtube, Ayrton Senna - Life, made by a random fanboy. According to the material in part 11, after Donnelly's nearly fatal crash Senna wanted Sid Watkins to teach him what happens to a driver during accident so that he could help
@wootmajor he didnt dive under the car at all mate he clearly slips and slides under the car by mistake although fair play to the guy for getting out there quick and helping like he did.
If only Martin hadn't crashed and qualified for the race. He could have won it or got a podium!
After this accident, he got back to the pits into the spare car and asked Ken Tyrrell 'Okay, what circuit am I at, and what way do I turn to leave the pits?'. Ken reached into the cockpit and turned off his engine. He was sent back to the hotel and later on he was in agony and had to seek out Lauda's physio.
Oh well, at least Martin had great races here in 89 and 94!
Wow that is interesting. Are there any other videos or even interviews afterwards?...because that's scary to be in the car and not knowing what circuit you are on.
Wasn't this at Dallas, where he brake his leg? By the way, today the corner workers are not allowed to pull the car before the medical car is at the scene.
Lewis Hamilton is under investigation by the stewards for the incident with Martin Brundle.
iiDangerCloseBK 2 weeks ago 4
ok, the car is laying on the guys head. it could burst into flames at any second, and you are criticizing the marshals for flipping it right side up?
SGDeGalvez 2 weeks ago
Marshall fail at 0:02 then a second marshall fail when they literally throw his car back onto what's left of its wheels.
BikerBonno 2 months ago
Martin: I SWEAR! At the begin of the race the car had a right side!
bonnemannetje 8 months ago
Is this F1? Or is it F3?
blainyrules 9 months ago
@blainyrules F1
kzimera 8 months ago
@blainyrules f1
Ixdriftz 3 weeks ago
Funny how all of Brundle's most famous moments always involve him driving an F1 car the wrong way up.
azapro911 10 months ago 5
@azapro911 he said himself that most of the Jordan cars he drove had more grip upside down!
ebyard 9 months ago 2
@ebyard They did seem to glide more smoothly on their roofs. :-)
azapro911 9 months ago
I've never seen a car wrecked that badly at Monaco, I didn't even know it was possible
luke140495 10 months ago
brundell how many cars you gonna destroy in your career?
atjays 10 months ago
he dead ??
kimi450 10 months ago
@kimi450 no he is bbc f1 commentator now and his foot almost came off in the crash
Pianoguy32 9 months ago
@Pianoguy32 Oh.... Thx
kimi450 9 months ago
Bad recovery.
ronnycnc 11 months ago
Marshal: Ya dead maan?
Brundle: Yaah maan
Bobobidodo 1 year ago
@Bobobidodo
Marshal: You can pee now.
Brundle: Too late.
Cain353 1 year ago
@Cain353 Cool Runnings ftw :P
Bobobidodo 1 year ago
looks 1983.... Rear Wing Style
RedhotIta1 1 year ago
@RedhotIta1 Brundle was in British F3 in 83 racing against Senna.
supercas46 1 year ago
@supercas46 oh thanks. :)
RedhotIta1 1 year ago
@supercas46 Yes, and Martin was able to hold the fight for the title open to the very last race, one point behind Senna . There, Ayrton Senna solved the problem in his usual way: he ran Martin over. Both were out, Ayrton became the 1983 British F3 Champion.
TheColinChapman 1 year ago
@TheColinChapman ah, Senna won the last of the championship with Brundle in 3rd. I'd check ur facts. They didn't collide in the final race
gerryff 11 months ago
@gerryff you're right, I checked that up - they didn't collide in the final round. But regardless of that I dare to say that this was the way Ayrton solved problems. de mortuis nil nisi bene, but this is a way of winning I can only despise. A dead hero doesn't automatically make a saint.
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@gerryff you're right, I checked that up - they didn't collide in the final round. But regardless of that I dare to say that this was the way Ayrton solved problems. de mortuis nil nisi bene, but this is a way of winning I can only despise. A dead hero doesn't automatically make a saint.
TheColinChapman 11 months ago
I'm OK. Let's just tow it back to the pits and tape it up. It'll be fine. :)
gp75motorsports 1 year ago
this is the crash where brundle says he can't remember it happening and the first thing he remembers after it he goes to his garage and team manager who asks him if he's ok, brundle says yes, just remind me where we are lol
duannejacksonbox 1 year ago
these stupid fucking course workers...don't they know that by flipping him over at the violent landing and cause serious problems...what is a broken vertebrae was neck to the cord and then they did this shit...done fucking deal
crv26 1 year ago 2
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And when someone comes round the corner and plows into his head with their front wing then what?
bdcollecter 11 months ago
@bdcollecter these are F1 drivers. the highest echelon of all motor-sports. I am not saying you have not done any racing, but even in my club racing, you are trained to look for flags. I have only seen
"one plow" in F1 and that was due to a mechanical issue. Being in the medical field, the aforementioned act, is a "no-no." I can understand your point because his head is exposed, but it is just simple protocol. You can delicately "right" the car, but first you must look to the spine.
crv26 11 months ago
lol at the marshall who runs to the car at 0:04 and slips under the car :D
Sast06 1 year ago
84 because those little extra flaps on the rear wing of that ATS in front of Brundle where banned in 85
kevintje82onboard 1 year ago
Shame the 84 Tyrrell was declared illegal by the FIA, wiping out Brundle's results.
darthbandon10 1 year ago
Brundle had some big accidents, melbourne 96 was a monster too
monk3ypilot 1 year ago
..i think his arm is slightly broken...
tonip420 1 year ago
Ivan Vanko (Whiplash) fucked him up good.
m015094 1 year ago
he said ken told him after that crash he still has to go and do a quali lap as he had not set a time. after agreeing , he asked ken what track they were at and that was when ken said ok switch the car off.
nitel10 2 years ago 5
hahaha...i literally did lol then
Fwibbib19 2 years ago
@nitel10 Even Ken had his limits! Wonder what Bernie would have said at Brabham........
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Waitingforriki 2 years ago
I love the way the mashals turn the car the right way up with Martin still in it. For all they knew he could have had spinal injuries.
symonh2000 2 years ago 19
Well at least it seems a better option than to have the entire weight of the car on your head and neck...
superlame64 2 years ago 2
No it isn't because it could kill you when your spinal cord gets injured. He didn't have the weight on his head or neck. They build rollover guards for that.
Ultrajuiced 2 years ago 7
He looked like he might have been pinned by his arm to me. See how it's hanging out the cockpit when the car's upright? Maybe that's the only way they could get him out the car. Having said that, medical care in F1 has come a long way since then.
PassiveSmoking 2 years ago 5
To be honest what else could they do but flip the car back over. They wouldn't have got him out if he was strapped in and upside down. Safety can only be so good, and frankly after such a massive impact the damage has probably already been done. Any injury would like come from the impact... the whiplash and roll are likely to 'finish off' any major injury such as neck or spine.
NeoCon2K7 2 years ago
yes, because having an F1 car on top of you is great for your spine....
fanaticaluk 2 years ago 2
but the point is, that where he ended up...whatever damage there was was not going to be made better by turning the car the right way up quickly, so it makes sense to take care and try not to cause any more damage...I suppose there is something to be said for getting the car the right way up quickly so as to check the guy inside is still breathing, but the marshals still didnt need to essentially drop it once it was past vertical...if you watch nowadays, the marshals take so much care...
wahaya2 1 year ago
@wahaya2 back then fires were a real danger, therefore the first thing they always did was get the driver out, now adays they indeed take more time to check if he hasnt broken his back or anything.
elvee88 1 year ago
@elvee88 Yes, because fires aren't a real danger now-
kalava182 1 year ago
@kalava182 Well they aren't as big of a concern as they were then. Certainly fire is a big concern,but the cars have safety measures in place around the fuel tank to prevent the breakout of fire.
Droidparty 1 year ago
@elvee88 I agree. Wrong mode to safe the driver.
GKOBE 1 year ago
yh this has all changed now, try and see the 1994 crash at san marino where barrichello crashed (nearly killing him) and would have made it the thrid in one weekend. the marshal just pushes the car over with no car in the world, shociking if that happened today there would be an uproar!
jimmyass 2 years ago
yeah that wasnt a good move at all. similar to gugelmin at paul ricard 89
driller007 2 years ago
yet another moment fucking lost to whipping the camera out and pressing record ...
CHOyaDANGEROUS 2 years ago
lol. he was told he had to do a qualifying lap and he said 'ok. what track am i at?' and that was when he was taken to hospital...
urbannibja123 2 years ago 7
Yep - before Ken Tyrell promptly turned the ignition off :P
dombou70 2 years ago 2
yep :)
urbannibja123 2 years ago
I believe David Coulthard described this crash as the point when Martin Brundle "ran out of talent in 1984" during the BBC Monaco 2009 race coverage. Harsh! ;)
ahmini76 2 years ago 7
Pretty bold statement for someone who didn't have any talent himself...
hoogestefan 2 years ago 40
Oh now that's harsh. I love Brundle, but DC has won 13 GP compared to Martin's 0, and two of them were on this very circuit.
randar3 2 years ago
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starlionblue 1 year ago
And would DC have won ONE race with the shit cars Brundle drove? Also, remember that in the second half of 1992, Brundle was OUTSCORING Schumacher at Benetton. True that Schumi won at Spa but his points consistency was horrible. Also, name the driver who crashed in the PITS in Adelaide in 1995... Even Murray Walker couldn't believe his eyes as his priceless commentary shows!
starlionblue 1 year ago
@starlionblue Brundle had 8 years in F1 at that point, a lot more experience than Schumacher. Schui was very much a rookie at that point.
darthbandon10 1 year ago
@hoogestefan That's why he was in Formula 1 racing alongside the likes of Senna and you are..... Exactly.
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@Hadrees7860 I was commenting on this statement:
"I believe David Coulthard described this crash as the point when Martin Brundle "ran out of talent in 1984" during the BBC Monaco 2009 race coverage. Harsh! ;)"
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hoogestefan 8 months ago
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+1
frusciante39 8 months ago
@hoogestefan Considering he couldnt brake with his left foot due to an injury, i think he did ok! (if youre talking about brundle)
hanigan000 8 months ago
@hanigan000 No. I was talking about Coulthard's statement about this crash.
hoogestefan 8 months ago
David who?? Ther driving chicane??
EmersonMeyer33 2 years ago
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That's irony, cause David ran out of talent before his career even started.
qwerty123456789jhdtg 2 years ago
Not Harsh, it's just he's using Martin's own catchphrase against him, as Brunlde has many time said a driver has run out of talent.
randar3 2 years ago
@ahmini76 Yeah and DC himself seems to have run out. He never won a single championship either. DC is no Jackie Stewart.
starlionblue 1 year ago
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In Coulthard's defense it must be said he mostly had champion team mates like Hill, Hakkinen and Raikkonen, and on a good day he beat all of those. Trouble was DC never had good days two or three races in a row. His spin in rain in Nurburgring while leading in 1999 effectively ended his chance to become champion in 1999 (and also denied McLaren the constructors' championship the same year).
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His he helmet scraped along the track when he had that crash also he mutters up words and forgets things from time to time when he does commentary.
mpmcufc666 2 years ago
im guessing u've read the May issue of F1 Racing?
H151NF3RNA1MAJ3STY95 2 years ago
Yes I have it was very interesting.
mpmcufc666 2 years ago
"It was at this point that Ken Tyrrell asked Brundle to get out the car." was how the story ended, I think I remember reading
dazcouz 2 years ago
the saftey (by the marshals) was so bad then like 1994 when barichello crashed in imola they just pushed the car over rather than protecting his neck.
edshortridge 2 years ago 3
Brundle actually ran back to the pits, still shaky and dizzy, jumped in the spare, and asked Ken Tyrrell: "Great, now which track am I in again?"
Legend.
mauownage 3 years ago 17
Fantastic insight there. I love these sorts of nuggets of background history.
Cheers.
IShallTellYouWhat 2 years ago 6
I got that snippet from Top Gear, in a segment called "Campaign for Real Racing Drivers", which includes Raikkonen, Bellof, Don Garlits, Duncan Hamilton, Dario Franchitti, and if I remember correctly, the legendary James Hunt.
mauownage 2 years ago
Brilliant stuff.
After all these years and having forgotten or been oblivious to so much that I now want to know, it's really appreciated that I can learn these things, even though the nostalgia's quite moving in a way.
IShallTellYouWhat 2 years ago
His book Working The Wheel is very good
cncondron 3 years ago 3
Yeah I love that story
thrillathakilla 3 years ago 2
is he the guy wit black hair who appears on itv coverage of f1?
jacktls26 3 years ago 5
yes, he's been commenting for itv alongside James Allen
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brundle is rubbish at 1984 he broke a leg at the japanese grand prix at 1994 in his mclaren peugeot
tasha613560161 3 years ago
and??
jraybay 3 years ago
he didn't break his own leg, he broke the leg of a track marshal
randar3 3 years ago 2
Ive always felt that drivers who break legs are all rubbish drivers. Very valid point ... fuckhead.
muddwell 3 years ago
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exactly, take Micheal Schumacher, did he achieve anything in F1?
pigeonkill 3 years ago
Yeah, he's the biggest asshole in the history of F1.
liobeking 3 years ago
True Grit Brit Brundle... lmao "What circuit am I on"?!
What a guy... :-0
DAH210774 3 years ago 7
that first guy that dived under the car to try and flip it over by him self is my hero.
wootmajor 3 years ago 67
he didn't dive. he slipped in gazoline or oil XD
jraybay 3 years ago
David Purley and Gerhard Berger are even bigger heroes in my book. Don't get me wrong, the stewards do a brilliant job usually but nobody expected what those 2 guys did.
Nicknamevanniks 3 years ago
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What did Gerhard Beger do to be a hero??
musicalinfluenced 3 years ago
I can't remember what race it was but he pulled over at an accident that was more serious than it seemed while all the other drivers were driving past the debris gawping at the wreck.
Nicknamevanniks 3 years ago 3
if i got u right u mean his crash at imola san marino 89 ?
Tobiiimnrw 2 years ago
I doubt he pulled over to help at his own accident..
You might be thinking of Senna helping Comas (Berger and Senna both drove for Mclaren during their careers and that might be where you are confused). In that case, it wasn't so much drivers going past and gawping; Senna was just first to the scene.
jimmicampkin 2 years ago 2
Driver's are generally told not to stop at accident sites and let marshalls and doctors do their job. However I've heard that Senna knew what he was doing. I'm not entirely certain if my source is to be trusted, since it is a documentary "film" on Youtube, Ayrton Senna - Life, made by a random fanboy. According to the material in part 11, after Donnelly's nearly fatal crash Senna wanted Sid Watkins to teach him what happens to a driver during accident so that he could help
leverage1990 2 years ago
Yes, that is true. Sid Watkins mentions it in his autobiography.
jimmicampkin 2 years ago 2
...if he'd encounter a situation like that in the future. Senna held Comas' head in right position until doctors arrived.
Say, what the heck does this have to do with Martin Brundle? :D
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gillyf1 2 years ago
@wootmajor great comment :D
Terrorista91 1 year ago
@wootmajor he didnt dive under the car at all mate he clearly slips and slides under the car by mistake although fair play to the guy for getting out there quick and helping like he did.
SpeedDaddyRacing 1 year ago
man this time they were very stupid !!!!
look what they did with the car !!!!
they rolled it. Today u cannot touch the car, just doctors can do it !!!
F1 security develops very much those decades !!!
dj7oya 3 years ago 3
dont forgetthat cars in those days after a crash would go on fire very easy
Milanotjuh 3 years ago 9
Yeah 2 years previously there was the paletti incident
zudthespud 3 years ago 2
hehe 'what circuit am i at' that is classic. bloody hell he had a few big ones, including melbourne 96
JeanAlesi90 4 years ago 7
If only Martin hadn't crashed and qualified for the race. He could have won it or got a podium!
After this accident, he got back to the pits into the spare car and asked Ken Tyrrell 'Okay, what circuit am I at, and what way do I turn to leave the pits?'. Ken reached into the cockpit and turned off his engine. He was sent back to the hotel and later on he was in agony and had to seek out Lauda's physio.
Oh well, at least Martin had great races here in 89 and 94!
BNPBloke 4 years ago 10
Wow that is interesting. Are there any other videos or even interviews afterwards?...because that's scary to be in the car and not knowing what circuit you are on.
Kurac80 4 years ago
Looks like his arm was under the car, it was certainly outside the cockpit...nasty
chrisy2654 4 years ago 6
Yeah but it was on the ground and luckily not under the car as he would be seriously injured.
Kurac80 4 years ago
i think this is 1985
me35656 4 years ago
Definitely 1984. The 85 car was blue. And i captured it from a 1985 pre season programme =P
alexminardi 4 years ago
If you watch the race highlights you see that Stefan Bellof's Tyrrell is black, and in this vid Brundle's isn't.
But i dunno
me35656 4 years ago
You're right, but it's definitely 1984 - the Tyrrells ran different colourschemes that year.
theycallhimsim 4 years ago
Ok your right its 84
me35656 4 years ago
@alexminardi also Brundle definitely had his crash in 1984... because he talks about it on TV...
Bryan2799 1 year ago
Wasn't this at Dallas, where he brake his leg? By the way, today the corner workers are not allowed to pull the car before the medical car is at the scene.
AstraJOM 4 years ago
This was definitely at Monaco at Tabac corner. Brundle did have another crash at Dallas but i've never seen that one before.
alexminardi 4 years ago 3
Thanks for this. Never seen live version of this crash.
f167657835 4 years ago