I am a very rational person. I base my life of logic, evidence, math, science. I am atheist and i do not have radical beliefs like the existance of bigfoot. I believe that we have been visited by beings not from this earth. I am convinced now, and i hope in the future i can have my very own encouter.
why does it appear in major city's and did not try to communicate? could it be a secret military aircraft? and why did the us military lied about this. it is so obvious .
while we want to believe that we are not alone and try to convince ourselves that these visitations are of an extra terrestrial nature we must also consider the possibility that these are visitations of our descendants from the future! the time machine is possible and the more we advance technologically the closer we get to making one, so we knows!
I am not saying i know alot about this case, but i believe 10.000 people saw something that was big. Has any one thought that the flares where orderd by the army to be fired into the skys so they could try to see the object themselfs.. If you heard something in your garden in the middle of the night you would get a torch and shine it into a garden to see what it is before reporting it to the police so you dont make a fool of yourself. It was the national guard that fired the flares...
What I don't get is why the eyewitness reports don't line up with the videos. All the videos look like flares.
00:34:54 The video camera is from 97, the lights are miles away, it won't pick up the smoke. The phoenix lights where NOT "rock steady" they descended over time. They did NOT stay identical in relationship to each other, nor where they evenly spaced. Anyone analyze it in photoshop while stabalizing the horizon can see what Im saying.
@GsBBoyDan I personally know someone who saw the Phoenix lights with their own eyes which is why I'm looking at this video in the first place. You are talking about the lights over the mountains. Ask yourself why would 10,000 people be so amazed over flares when they are so common in that area. There was a triangle that flew over peoples houses that same night including the same person who got me interested in this video.
@Ramel34 The fact is, the original phoenix lights video is flares, it's so easy to tell when you analyze it in Photoshop. I am not denying the eye witness claims, I believe the video is an entirely separate event.
There are many videos of the flares the AF dropped at 10:15PM. There is excactly one video of the 08:15PM V-formation. It's called the Terry Proctor video. It plainly shows the lights moving in relation to each other, NOT attached to a fixed object. This strongly suggests planes as Mitch Stanley saw through his telescope.
Sorry, this is stupid. It is obvious it is a clever hoax. Some one is laughing there ass off at us some where. First off, notice it happened AT NIGHT, so no one could see any specific structural detail. NOTICE, no one got any great photos if it was under 3,000 ft. I am fuckn tired of UFO sightings that no one can provide proof. No photos, no up close video documentation. They are always convenient for not having tangible proof. So many sightings, yet no public contact. there all mirages!!!!
@squirm71 No, not really. It is common sense these are flares disappearing behind the mountain range. Dont be daft!! Notice NO ONE EVER gets real CONFIRMED proof?? It is always photography at a distance. There is another video at head on shot and clearly the flares one by one move to the right over mountains.
@boi187 Footage of LIGHTS not spacecrafts. Dont call it an alien encounter when all anyone can see in the photos is lights. Until someone comes forth with a up close shot of the "spacecraft" these will remain only LIGHTS or flares over mountain range.
@1122stardust I never said that they were Alien Spacecraft. All i know is that they are unaccounted for and unexplained. UFO's are a real phenomenon however I do not think that they are nuts and bolts machinery controlled by little aliens, I think that they are inter-dimensional and that is why they have been seen on radar and NASA footage defying all laws of gravity and physics, multiplying, joining as one, and suddenly disappearing from view within seconds,like living orbs.
@1122stardust However if you read books and take notes and listen to any skeptic on the UFO subject they will admit that it is impossible to debunk and that this is a very real phenomenon, it is not the figment of the imagination. When you have records from radars, military and civilian pilots, astronauts etc, footage recorded from NASA etc, you have a very real phenomenon, its just a case of are these UFO's nuts and bolts machinery controlled by extraterrestrials, and i think they are not.
Sammy is clearly uninformed. Thousands of people are in prisons this minute based witness testimony alone, as it is widely accepted as THE best evidence possible-so how could ALL the people be delusional around the world? You need to watch some shuttle cameras with the ufos making a 20 mile diameter circle formation. Im not saying I believe 75% of what I see, but there are things flying in and around our atmosphere that are unexplained. Period, end of story.
this is f**king awesome..... I mean really.... think about it.... 10,000 people who saw this thing.... people from all different walks of life. This, coupled with what you hear from the likes of Bob Lazaar, just adds TOO MUCH WEIGHT to the possibility that it is indeed alien spacecraft. UNDENIABLE!! INCREDIBLE!! just a pity it did not happen during the day ;)
If these lights were attached to one object - just imagine how huge. I can't think the government would be making something that large on a secret basis. I don't think something that big can stay hidden underground and there can't be a building big enough to store an object like that.
I guess what these are is whats known as mirages thats why most folks that see them say they shimmer.Pheonix is a very hot place and tempreture variations esspeccially at dawn and dusk change rapidly causing mirages to form.So stop trying to make something outsa nothing .Thats why the government dont get that involved they know what it is .Its harmless but they do enjoy the distraction it gives joe public away from their own secret weopons developements.
I think these lights must have been reflected/refracted lights from the airport or vehicles on roads etc .I have seen a similar effect over edinburgh in scotland at night when the troposphere is changing and moving due to tempreture changes allsorts of images are magnifyed and reflected.forget aliens visiting us we are definetly alone distances are just too far for us to be visited by another alien race if there is any.Now another dimension is a possibility.
@MrSammythehammy I think that reflected lights was ruled out as well as flares... the object was seen by over 10.000 people are i think that most of them have lived around there most of their lifes and would of seen reflected/refracted lights before.. it was seen by people from every walk of life like Airforce, police, doctors, cab drives, local government and was reported to be only 500 to 1000 feet up.... something was there... human made or not i dont know
@MrSammythehammy This solar system is a young system in our galaxy and some systems are billions of years older than ours... Now we started to fly in 1903 and in a 108 years manage to get into space, land on the moon and send probe's to every planet in our system and all in a 108 years... so tell me how far do you think humans will be in 10 million year or a billion years from now? Distances will not be a problem then
@MrSammythehammy I have put up a Video Response up showing why aliens are not saying hello...What we are doing on this planet to that tribe by just watching them... what do you think that tribe thinks is flying in the sky when their have no idea about us or our citys or technology... we are staying away to protect them... why is it so hard for you to believe that it is happening to us
@MrSammythehammy LOL one more thing my friend, you said they are secret weopons developements i think most ufo are.. BUT how come they have been painted on cave walls from 15.000 years 10.000 years, 5000 years ago in the same shape objects that our pilots are seeing and taking photo's now... As i know our governments have not been around for that long There is only 1 simple explanation, someone has been watching us for a very long time
OK - assuming that UFO's are a reality, why must they be piloted by "aliens"? I have seen tons of videos of UFO's ... nothing of an alien.
It is way more likely that it's piloted by a man or a project bluebeam illusion. Hell, I'd even believe in time travelers long before I believe in intelligent life from another planet existing within our current spacetime.... considering the gigantic scope of spacetime.
i believe in UFOs and ETs on planet earth during the last thousands of years.. but i think the phoenix lights were a military black project...like Michael Schratt explained in his Project Camelot Interview
We are living in the very last of the last days...These are the lying signs and wonders that Jesus said that the world would see just before HE RETURNS to get His Church...They are ALL produced by satan to blind the world to the sudden removal of Gods church..."Please do not believe these signs or you will get caught up in his(satans) lie... Moshe,
I am a very rational person. I base my life of logic, evidence, math, science. I am atheist and i do not have radical beliefs like the existance of bigfoot. I believe that we have been visited by beings not from this earth. I am convinced now, and i hope in the future i can have my very own encouter.
TheLimitOfHumanPain 20 hours ago
why does it appear in major city's and did not try to communicate? could it be a secret military aircraft? and why did the us military lied about this. it is so obvious .
MrAlexbovick 1 week ago
while we want to believe that we are not alone and try to convince ourselves that these visitations are of an extra terrestrial nature we must also consider the possibility that these are visitations of our descendants from the future! the time machine is possible and the more we advance technologically the closer we get to making one, so we knows!
TheMohanroache 1 month ago
I am not saying i know alot about this case, but i believe 10.000 people saw something that was big. Has any one thought that the flares where orderd by the army to be fired into the skys so they could try to see the object themselfs.. If you heard something in your garden in the middle of the night you would get a torch and shine it into a garden to see what it is before reporting it to the police so you dont make a fool of yourself. It was the national guard that fired the flares...
Peace LBA
lbawop 1 month ago
What I don't get is why the eyewitness reports don't line up with the videos. All the videos look like flares.
00:34:54 The video camera is from 97, the lights are miles away, it won't pick up the smoke. The phoenix lights where NOT "rock steady" they descended over time. They did NOT stay identical in relationship to each other, nor where they evenly spaced. Anyone analyze it in photoshop while stabalizing the horizon can see what Im saying.
00:49:52 Those are the fakest photos ever.
GsBBoyDan 3 months ago
@GsBBoyDan I personally know someone who saw the Phoenix lights with their own eyes which is why I'm looking at this video in the first place. You are talking about the lights over the mountains. Ask yourself why would 10,000 people be so amazed over flares when they are so common in that area. There was a triangle that flew over peoples houses that same night including the same person who got me interested in this video.
Ramel34 2 months ago
@Ramel34 I know. I believe the reports, multiple cities witnessed it in one night. But I don't believe the video is the object.
GsBBoyDan 2 months ago
@Ramel34 The fact is, the original phoenix lights video is flares, it's so easy to tell when you analyze it in Photoshop. I am not denying the eye witness claims, I believe the video is an entirely separate event.
GsBBoyDan 2 months ago
@GsBBoyDan You obviously didn't watch the whole video did you? They thoroughly debunk the claims that they could have been flares...
boi187 2 months ago
@boi187 Not from what I saw, what part? I watched it all and studied the case years ago.
GsBBoyDan 2 months ago
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GsBBoyDan 3 months ago
There are many videos of the flares the AF dropped at 10:15PM. There is excactly one video of the 08:15PM V-formation. It's called the Terry Proctor video. It plainly shows the lights moving in relation to each other, NOT attached to a fixed object. This strongly suggests planes as Mitch Stanley saw through his telescope.
str009 4 months ago
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over 10,000 people saw this item and its was huge and silent..police,lawyers,doctors,etc,etc all saw it,
ducati0000 6 months ago
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ducati0000 6 months ago
Sorry, this is stupid. It is obvious it is a clever hoax. Some one is laughing there ass off at us some where. First off, notice it happened AT NIGHT, so no one could see any specific structural detail. NOTICE, no one got any great photos if it was under 3,000 ft. I am fuckn tired of UFO sightings that no one can provide proof. No photos, no up close video documentation. They are always convenient for not having tangible proof. So many sightings, yet no public contact. there all mirages!!!!
1122stardust 6 months ago
@1122stardust All hoax possibilities have been debunked by people much smarter than you or I. Try watching the video before you comment. Thanks.
squirm71 2 months ago
@squirm71 No, not really. It is common sense these are flares disappearing behind the mountain range. Dont be daft!! Notice NO ONE EVER gets real CONFIRMED proof?? It is always photography at a distance. There is another video at head on shot and clearly the flares one by one move to the right over mountains.
1122stardust 1 month ago
@1122stardust There is footage and photos of the Phoenix Lights... You didn't take much time or thought with this did you?
boi187 2 months ago
@boi187 Footage of LIGHTS not spacecrafts. Dont call it an alien encounter when all anyone can see in the photos is lights. Until someone comes forth with a up close shot of the "spacecraft" these will remain only LIGHTS or flares over mountain range.
1122stardust 1 month ago
@1122stardust I never said that they were Alien Spacecraft. All i know is that they are unaccounted for and unexplained. UFO's are a real phenomenon however I do not think that they are nuts and bolts machinery controlled by little aliens, I think that they are inter-dimensional and that is why they have been seen on radar and NASA footage defying all laws of gravity and physics, multiplying, joining as one, and suddenly disappearing from view within seconds,like living orbs.
boi187 1 month ago
@1122stardust However if you read books and take notes and listen to any skeptic on the UFO subject they will admit that it is impossible to debunk and that this is a very real phenomenon, it is not the figment of the imagination. When you have records from radars, military and civilian pilots, astronauts etc, footage recorded from NASA etc, you have a very real phenomenon, its just a case of are these UFO's nuts and bolts machinery controlled by extraterrestrials, and i think they are not.
boi187 1 month ago
Sammy is clearly uninformed. Thousands of people are in prisons this minute based witness testimony alone, as it is widely accepted as THE best evidence possible-so how could ALL the people be delusional around the world? You need to watch some shuttle cameras with the ufos making a 20 mile diameter circle formation. Im not saying I believe 75% of what I see, but there are things flying in and around our atmosphere that are unexplained. Period, end of story.
JerseyJersey100 6 months ago
Oh great. This entire documentary is environmentalist propoganda.
shatwood 7 months ago
this is f**king awesome..... I mean really.... think about it.... 10,000 people who saw this thing.... people from all different walks of life. This, coupled with what you hear from the likes of Bob Lazaar, just adds TOO MUCH WEIGHT to the possibility that it is indeed alien spacecraft. UNDENIABLE!! INCREDIBLE!! just a pity it did not happen during the day ;)
soulster1978 7 months ago
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We are not alone
dirtynuke 7 months ago
is sowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww realy!
SuperNikolai100 8 months ago
Thank you for posting this full version...much luv:)
abstractnomad 8 months ago
Telling us that it was just flares is another way of saying they think we're
a bunch of dumb asses.
jitblues 9 months ago 2
@jitblues It was just flares!!!
It just HAS to be, and besides, that's what the goverment says, they wouldn't lie, would they?
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Thesortvokter 6 months ago
If these lights were attached to one object - just imagine how huge. I can't think the government would be making something that large on a secret basis. I don't think something that big can stay hidden underground and there can't be a building big enough to store an object like that.
Laurieb2851 9 months ago 2
this is the best one so far that adressed the fact what happend. but its always up to yourself what u do with this information.
great work :)
dogsofwarclan 10 months ago 2
I guess what these are is whats known as mirages thats why most folks that see them say they shimmer.Pheonix is a very hot place and tempreture variations esspeccially at dawn and dusk change rapidly causing mirages to form.So stop trying to make something outsa nothing .Thats why the government dont get that involved they know what it is .Its harmless but they do enjoy the distraction it gives joe public away from their own secret weopons developements.
MrSammythehammy 10 months ago
I think these lights must have been reflected/refracted lights from the airport or vehicles on roads etc .I have seen a similar effect over edinburgh in scotland at night when the troposphere is changing and moving due to tempreture changes allsorts of images are magnifyed and reflected.forget aliens visiting us we are definetly alone distances are just too far for us to be visited by another alien race if there is any.Now another dimension is a possibility.
MrSammythehammy 10 months ago
@MrSammythehammy I think that reflected lights was ruled out as well as flares... the object was seen by over 10.000 people are i think that most of them have lived around there most of their lifes and would of seen reflected/refracted lights before.. it was seen by people from every walk of life like Airforce, police, doctors, cab drives, local government and was reported to be only 500 to 1000 feet up.... something was there... human made or not i dont know
lbawop 10 months ago 9
@MrSammythehammy This solar system is a young system in our galaxy and some systems are billions of years older than ours... Now we started to fly in 1903 and in a 108 years manage to get into space, land on the moon and send probe's to every planet in our system and all in a 108 years... so tell me how far do you think humans will be in 10 million year or a billion years from now? Distances will not be a problem then
lbawop 10 months ago 6
@MrSammythehammy I have put up a Video Response up showing why aliens are not saying hello...What we are doing on this planet to that tribe by just watching them... what do you think that tribe thinks is flying in the sky when their have no idea about us or our citys or technology... we are staying away to protect them... why is it so hard for you to believe that it is happening to us
peace LBA
lbawop 10 months ago
@MrSammythehammy LOL one more thing my friend, you said they are secret weopons developements i think most ufo are.. BUT how come they have been painted on cave walls from 15.000 years 10.000 years, 5000 years ago in the same shape objects that our pilots are seeing and taking photo's now... As i know our governments have not been around for that long There is only 1 simple explanation, someone has been watching us for a very long time
peace LBA
lbawop 10 months ago 8
OK - assuming that UFO's are a reality, why must they be piloted by "aliens"? I have seen tons of videos of UFO's ... nothing of an alien.
It is way more likely that it's piloted by a man or a project bluebeam illusion. Hell, I'd even believe in time travelers long before I believe in intelligent life from another planet existing within our current spacetime.... considering the gigantic scope of spacetime.
Metacomet7 11 months ago
one of the most important ufo events ever
kiuhy8 11 months ago
man....c'mon...its obviously swamp gas!
reignclaw 11 months ago
@reignclaw Of course it's not, it's oviously bewildered seagulls.
deedoo70 11 months ago
i believe in UFOs and ETs on planet earth during the last thousands of years.. but i think the phoenix lights were a military black project...like Michael Schratt explained in his Project Camelot Interview
TheFunkMachine77 1 year ago
We are living in the very last of the last days...These are the lying signs and wonders that Jesus said that the world would see just before HE RETURNS to get His Church...They are ALL produced by satan to blind the world to the sudden removal of Gods church..."Please do not believe these signs or you will get caught up in his(satans) lie... Moshe,
Megiddo3712 1 year ago
@Megiddo3712 how can you be so sure ?
icemilf 11 months ago