Wow, 2:22 is the only time I've seen Hayao do something after K.O.ing his opponent. He normally just stands there and does nothing (I think this is what he does in ALL of the other vids on YT if I remember correctly). =o
Necro is my favorite character in this game, i wish we would have gotten him for ssf4 :( Anyways, it's nice to see a good necro player go up against a great Hugo. Rep those low tiers xD
Hayao seemed to be dominating the whole match. its a bad match up for Necro... he needs to get in close to do his juggles but there was always the treat of a hugo-driver.
This is not the least balanced fighter, but certainly not the most. Hell, Sean is unusable at high level play, and Twelves is only slightly less shitty.
When best Necro and best Hugo players clash you get genius matches like this.Great mind games, they were learning how each other play and punishing their moves next time they try same.
and when i use it i do think clearly. i don't select it thinking it gives me anything other than another disadvantage, but i already feel that selecting 12 vs yun in the first place. besides which if you are familiar with the enemy's char then xcopy disabling the potential to be reset can win you a fight which you might otherwise lose.
and what are you saying, that it takes balls to use top tier chars because people hate them? only a top tier whore would make such a cheap excuse to justify why he doesn't dare play on a level playing field. why should people respect someone who insists on making sure they have an advantage? it's inherently cheap.
great fight, new generation players will never have similar skills. i ahve seen countless new player resorts to easy win tactics with top tier chars, occasional parries not nowhere near as good as the old players
those are called RESPECTABLE PLAYERS, they love the characters they choose regardless of tiers, not they love to win then choose the best(easiest) characters. top tier characters being top cos they have more "easy to win" tactics up their sleeves. if you bother trace and watch some older tournament vids you will notice far more variety of chars taking part and some of them actually did very well, but now... "sigh". bet you are one of them, cos you dont seem to get what i said at the 1st place
IMO: if one chooses a top tier character for the sake of it, then so be it. beginners/novices will lose more often regardless of what character they choose, and experts will win more often regardless of what character they use. so this issue is moot.
bashing people for using top tiers is not going to help character variety bloom. don't make street fighter about something it's not.
actually the SF community hates tops tier whores, if you check completition vids, PPL ACTUALLY CHEER WHEN CHUN LI and ken LOSE, why?. talk about repect, oh, sry, i forgot that yo dont have any or you dont deserve any
just because it's not about respect doesn't mean rewspect isn't a good thing to have.
and also it's simply not true that better players will win regardless. as hayao and kuroda so often show they CAN win regardless but they are often way up against it and simply have to work a lot harder to get the win. so the point is so many players of roughly even levels will lose or win entirely because of a major tier difference. as an xcopy 12 player i see it all the time, the disadvantage is BIG.
I agree, like you said they are harder to win matches. my points is, and also what you said as well, THEY CAN WIN with those chars. new generation players are all resorting to "easy mode" chars, they and think just like you think: "i have to work hard for a win, why bothered?", and that is why those who are WILLING to work harder deserve more GOD DAMN RESPECT. BTW, XCOPY is a suicidal move, whoever uses it is simply not thinking clear, nothing to do with skills.
what are you talking about? if you select xcopy you don't HAVE to lose. you're contradicting yourself now as you said all these disadvantages mean is that you have to work harder. the same applies to xcopy, if you are that much better than them you can do it. i'm not at tournament level by i win 80% of my fights online against good players who are no fools with xcopy. whilst i couldn't do that in a tournament, it's not impossible and doing so would be entirely about....skills!
....well... I think there's a little misunderstanding between blvk3 and meatflowers. Meatflowers just wanna let u knows 'PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.' which I'm totally agree. In the other hand, blvk3 has been put off by those top-tier whores in TOURNEMENT LEVEL (not casaul)! If u've been playing 3s for years u'll also find out how annoying to play against Yun, Ken , Chun ALL THE TIME. (this game has been out for 10 years)
Imo, there's nothing wrong to choose any character to start wiv, but bear in mind, if everyone ar going to choose the top tier characters, where's the fun in 3s?? U GUYS WILL NEVER WATCH MATCHES LIKE ABOVE ANYMORE!
ye the problem is that people can't handle being told that they are cheap. it's only those whores who make excuses for it whilst everyone else sees it for what it is. the same problem seems to lie in all games though. in football games everyone only selects the best few teams, in an old game i used to play, the best few weapons and easiest techniques etc. etc. the sad truth is people can't be trusted to have any balls, thos ewho do are sadly an exception. =/
ye i see what you're saying. i mean it's not like i'm ever gonna be good enough to take on top level yuns or anything, i'm more thinking of someone like kuroda if he uses 12. i've seen a great video of ysb JUST scrape past a 12 player in a best of 3 match where the 12 player was the better one to be honest. i know ysb isn't the best in the world or anything and he's only using hugo, but he beats a lot of top tier whores all day, so that 12 presumably doesn't do that badly either.
Sounds like a bunch of crybabies who got wooped on too many times by yun. Fact of the matter: High tier or not, you have to know your character. Your Yun wouldn't stack up against a Tourny Yun. Why cry about it?
no it sounds like you're a cheap yun whore who's scared of a disadvantage.
i know i have no know my character and the enemy's, that's the most obvious thing ever.
i already said my yun would lose at tournament level (all my characters would) i never complained about that once. a better player winning is fine by me which is all that would happen. but that is exactly what i want, the best man to win. if player a is at a 2x disadvantage and only just loses, tell me who deserves greater pride.
incorrect, my mains are ryu and necro. The only other characters I attempt to use besides those 2 are Chun and Hugo. I never play Yun, EVER. And yes, if you whoop on a yun with a 12 then you deserve more props. The point of my post is why cry about it? You sound like little bitches when you do.
i don't see where i cried about it. i checked the previous comments page and don't see what i said other than the disadvantaged players deserves more respect if they do disproportionately well, which you seem to agree with.
i fights a lot of yuns chuns and kens all day and when i lose i don't insult them or anything, i just wonder to myself if they would hyave done as well without a massive advantage
Hayao's win ratio is better than YSB's. Hayao's parry(see vid title - Hugo By Hayao !!!), block chains, and ability to punish is what makes him so good. YSB plays an overly agressive hugo, thats why you seem him using super art 3 half the time, but is very entertaining to watch. Both players have really good hugos but I would have to give it to Hayao ;) Nonetheless, bottom Tier characters ftw.
the best necro vs the best hugo... all great matches... 2nd match-1st round = niiiiice finish... 3rd match-3rd round = VERY nice finish... i still think pino should have chose electric snake... the last thing u want is to have a hugo fighter block ur SA1 and have him drawn in so close to u... ah well... different strokes for different folks. 5 stars!
Pino literally walked himself into that Gigas at 6:35.
FPSWordle 10 months ago
Wow, 2:22 is the only time I've seen Hayao do something after K.O.ing his opponent. He normally just stands there and does nothing (I think this is what he does in ALL of the other vids on YT if I remember correctly). =o
xiaohanxiaodong 11 months ago
Clash of the Titans!
vagopublico 1 year ago
Both are amazing players. Nice matches.
rippemies 1 year ago
@berserkfootball Not balanced. LOL sagat isnt top. It's rufus then Guile. Hakan is bottom
GuyInGreen27 1 year ago
@GuyInGreen27 rufus is very high tier, but he isn't the top. He has some pretty tough matchups against shotos, blanka, and gief.
cloudstrife1256 11 months ago
@cloudstrife1256 yo get this ssf4 talk outta here fags. play a real game
RisingStars 10 months ago
@RisingStars Cool story, bro!
I love 3s too, but we don't need to be little elitist pricks. I bet seeing Genei Jin setups just gets your pussy so hot, doesn't it?
cloudstrife1256 10 months ago
Necro is my favorite character in this game, i wish we would have gotten him for ssf4 :( Anyways, it's nice to see a good necro player go up against a great Hugo. Rep those low tiers xD
bloodriotiori 1 year ago
Hayao seemed to be dominating the whole match. its a bad match up for Necro... he needs to get in close to do his juggles but there was always the treat of a hugo-driver.
patrckhh20 2 years ago
@patrckhh20 Hayao just knows how to work the inside, dude. PinoAB7 has slaughtered Hayao before.
subjugatedcereal 1 year ago
@subjugatedcereal Where?
patrckhh20 1 year ago
@patrckhh20 watch?v=1qFmlBcJcwQ
subjugatedcereal 1 year ago
Hugo is like a mix of The Big Show, Zangief and Andre The Giant
ligark 2 years ago
Well, he was based off of Andre the giant.
Deckof51 2 years ago
and Birdie, probably.
houou100 2 years ago
@ligark No. Just Andre.
StuartHayden 1 year ago
What? Are you serious? what's the story behind that?
hamidious 2 years ago
at 4:10 you can see pinoAB expected an attack after that air parry and ate a 360 splash for his troubles.
someguyhunter 2 years ago
i hate watching ken,chun, yun also.
i love hugo,urien, and oro. my 3 best and my 3 fav
someguyhunter 2 years ago
Oh no :(
Hayao is retired?
Now I have to watch Ken, Yun and Chun matches all day. I feel sad, why did he retire?
hamidious 2 years ago 5
Is YSB still playing? We need at least one pro Hugo in the game.
We still have plenty of players out there, that are not Ken, Yun and Chun... always less and less, though.
ai2006b 2 years ago
Tier lists piss me off, too. Just watch J and his Makoto, very entertaining.
Or watch some SF4 matches. Those are fun as well.
Calcos323 2 years ago
wait...a grand final that DOESNT have chun or yun....only in France i guess >_>
ThePieIsFalse 2 years ago
Gotta love those Europeans...
Calcos323 2 years ago
Durr, both of the players here are Japanese.
houou100 2 years ago
This is not the least balanced fighter, but certainly not the most. Hell, Sean is unusable at high level play, and Twelves is only slightly less shitty.
StKxANDEYx 2 years ago
Yeah but who the fuck would wanna use sean anyways. I don't even see him used at low-level play.
PsychoJosh 2 years ago
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moonlitearthx14 2 years ago
When best Necro and best Hugo players clash you get genius matches like this.Great mind games, they were learning how each other play and punishing their moves next time they try same.
RyukendenY 2 years ago 2
Nope, hugo is third from last place on the tier list. He is one of the statistically worst characters of sf3.
Raz242 3 years ago 4
But he's in the Grand Finals? Thats Hayao for ya.
ETWIST51294 3 years ago 4
Tiers are for dipshits, this is one of the most balanced games in the universe, you can win with anybody.
PsychoJosh 3 years ago 4
hell I rape with Sean
senpuu1440 2 years ago
I agree with what you think about tiers, but the Guilty Gear series is a much more balanced series according to myself.
Woodland312 2 years ago
and you either didn't read or totally misunderstood what i was getting at.
meatflowers 3 years ago
not to mention you can still use ex moves and don't have to actually start the super.
meatflowers 3 years ago
and when i use it i do think clearly. i don't select it thinking it gives me anything other than another disadvantage, but i already feel that selecting 12 vs yun in the first place. besides which if you are familiar with the enemy's char then xcopy disabling the potential to be reset can win you a fight which you might otherwise lose.
meatflowers 3 years ago
and what are you saying, that it takes balls to use top tier chars because people hate them? only a top tier whore would make such a cheap excuse to justify why he doesn't dare play on a level playing field. why should people respect someone who insists on making sure they have an advantage? it's inherently cheap.
meatflowers 3 years ago
Wow, amazing matches
shadowghostra 3 years ago
excellent match; are there any recent Hayao vids? Is he out of the SF Third Strike Circuit?? Msg me w/ any vids plz
Gunnar00 3 years ago
i am his fan, but unfortunately he has retired
blvk3 3 years ago
great fight, new generation players will never have similar skills. i ahve seen countless new player resorts to easy win tactics with top tier chars, occasional parries not nowhere near as good as the old players
blvk3 3 years ago
If those tactics are so easy to win with, why dont other players use them and crush the opposition?
qwasdninja 3 years ago
those are called RESPECTABLE PLAYERS, they love the characters they choose regardless of tiers, not they love to win then choose the best(easiest) characters. top tier characters being top cos they have more "easy to win" tactics up their sleeves. if you bother trace and watch some older tournament vids you will notice far more variety of chars taking part and some of them actually did very well, but now... "sigh". bet you are one of them, cos you dont seem to get what i said at the 1st place
blvk3 3 years ago 9
street fighter is not about respect.
IMO: if one chooses a top tier character for the sake of it, then so be it. beginners/novices will lose more often regardless of what character they choose, and experts will win more often regardless of what character they use. so this issue is moot.
bashing people for using top tiers is not going to help character variety bloom. don't make street fighter about something it's not.
traqueofziche 3 years ago
actually the SF community hates tops tier whores, if you check completition vids, PPL ACTUALLY CHEER WHEN CHUN LI and ken LOSE, why?. talk about repect, oh, sry, i forgot that yo dont have any or you dont deserve any
blvk3 3 years ago
just because it's not about respect doesn't mean rewspect isn't a good thing to have.
and also it's simply not true that better players will win regardless. as hayao and kuroda so often show they CAN win regardless but they are often way up against it and simply have to work a lot harder to get the win. so the point is so many players of roughly even levels will lose or win entirely because of a major tier difference. as an xcopy 12 player i see it all the time, the disadvantage is BIG.
meatflowers 3 years ago
I agree, like you said they are harder to win matches. my points is, and also what you said as well, THEY CAN WIN with those chars. new generation players are all resorting to "easy mode" chars, they and think just like you think: "i have to work hard for a win, why bothered?", and that is why those who are WILLING to work harder deserve more GOD DAMN RESPECT. BTW, XCOPY is a suicidal move, whoever uses it is simply not thinking clear, nothing to do with skills.
blvk3 3 years ago
what are you talking about? if you select xcopy you don't HAVE to lose. you're contradicting yourself now as you said all these disadvantages mean is that you have to work harder. the same applies to xcopy, if you are that much better than them you can do it. i'm not at tournament level by i win 80% of my fights online against good players who are no fools with xcopy. whilst i couldn't do that in a tournament, it's not impossible and doing so would be entirely about....skills!
meatflowers 3 years ago
....well... I think there's a little misunderstanding between blvk3 and meatflowers. Meatflowers just wanna let u knows 'PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.' which I'm totally agree. In the other hand, blvk3 has been put off by those top-tier whores in TOURNEMENT LEVEL (not casaul)! If u've been playing 3s for years u'll also find out how annoying to play against Yun, Ken , Chun ALL THE TIME. (this game has been out for 10 years)
arigato38 3 years ago
Imo, there's nothing wrong to choose any character to start wiv, but bear in mind, if everyone ar going to choose the top tier characters, where's the fun in 3s?? U GUYS WILL NEVER WATCH MATCHES LIKE ABOVE ANYMORE!
arigato38 3 years ago
ye the problem is that people can't handle being told that they are cheap. it's only those whores who make excuses for it whilst everyone else sees it for what it is. the same problem seems to lie in all games though. in football games everyone only selects the best few teams, in an old game i used to play, the best few weapons and easiest techniques etc. etc. the sad truth is people can't be trusted to have any balls, thos ewho do are sadly an exception. =/
meatflowers 3 years ago
ye i see what you're saying. i mean it's not like i'm ever gonna be good enough to take on top level yuns or anything, i'm more thinking of someone like kuroda if he uses 12. i've seen a great video of ysb JUST scrape past a 12 player in a best of 3 match where the 12 player was the better one to be honest. i know ysb isn't the best in the world or anything and he's only using hugo, but he beats a lot of top tier whores all day, so that 12 presumably doesn't do that badly either.
meatflowers 3 years ago
Sounds like a bunch of crybabies who got wooped on too many times by yun. Fact of the matter: High tier or not, you have to know your character. Your Yun wouldn't stack up against a Tourny Yun. Why cry about it?
esosj 3 years ago
no it sounds like you're a cheap yun whore who's scared of a disadvantage.
i know i have no know my character and the enemy's, that's the most obvious thing ever.
i already said my yun would lose at tournament level (all my characters would) i never complained about that once. a better player winning is fine by me which is all that would happen. but that is exactly what i want, the best man to win. if player a is at a 2x disadvantage and only just loses, tell me who deserves greater pride.
meatflowers 3 years ago 2
incorrect, my mains are ryu and necro. The only other characters I attempt to use besides those 2 are Chun and Hugo. I never play Yun, EVER. And yes, if you whoop on a yun with a 12 then you deserve more props. The point of my post is why cry about it? You sound like little bitches when you do.
esosj 3 years ago
i don't see where i cried about it. i checked the previous comments page and don't see what i said other than the disadvantaged players deserves more respect if they do disproportionately well, which you seem to agree with.
i fights a lot of yuns chuns and kens all day and when i lose i don't insult them or anything, i just wonder to myself if they would hyave done as well without a massive advantage
meatflowers 3 years ago
Pretty fitting to have the last fight played out at Gill's level.
alaktin 4 years ago
IMO YSB will never be as good as hayao..
He plays Hugo as if it was another character, he plays not exactly a thrower and punisher.
Well.. Whatever, both are good.
AloneSoul 4 years ago
Good God, Ive never seen so many Gigas Breakers in my life lol Hayao is too good for words, Low Tier Chars FTW! 5 Stars!
DaeStorm68 4 years ago 3
GREAT PLAY BY BOTH PLAYERS!
YuuFone 4 years ago 4
Hayao's win ratio is better than YSB's. Hayao's parry(see vid title - Hugo By Hayao !!!), block chains, and ability to punish is what makes him so good. YSB plays an overly agressive hugo, thats why you seem him using super art 3 half the time, but is very entertaining to watch. Both players have really good hugos but I would have to give it to Hayao ;) Nonetheless, bottom Tier characters ftw.
SquaLLio702 4 years ago 9
i used to think YSB was the best HUGO until i saw HAYAO~ haha
YuuFone 4 years ago 3
@SquaLLio702 hugo is mid tier by arcadia
wachinchonchan 2 weeks ago
Whoo!! That was sweet; so glad to Pino lose like that.
phildisma 4 years ago
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fucking noob pinoab with his cheap ass shit
LovesToSpooge77 4 years ago
are they playin on the console? what the hell..
SFHoang 4 years ago
the best necro vs the best hugo... all great matches... 2nd match-1st round = niiiiice finish... 3rd match-3rd round = VERY nice finish... i still think pino should have chose electric snake... the last thing u want is to have a hugo fighter block ur SA1 and have him drawn in so close to u... ah well... different strokes for different folks. 5 stars!
eckspertdesign 4 years ago
I agree with Hayao being the best Hugo.. but in my opinion, I think Sugiyama (spellcheck) has the better necro.
klumzyrice 4 years ago 3
id probably agree.
Guywithair2 4 years ago 2
really?
i thought pinoab7 was better
YuuFone 4 years ago
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I'd argue that YSB is in contention for the best Hugo.
falloutitchy 4 years ago
id disagree.
Guywithair2 4 years ago
me too
YuuFone 4 years ago