I would love to see this type of junction in Florida. Even though I prefer to drive, I like to give people the choice of transport and Floridian streets are notoriously unfriendly to those on foot or bike.
I do have a question though. Could this kind of system still work with "right on red"? That is the popular standard for most of Florida.
@loll22 Almost everywhere in the US right turn on red is allowed unless otherwise stated. As an everyday cyclist/pedestrian I really dislike that system. Pedestrian crossings become useless from occupation by cars waiting to turn, etc. If we had this infrastructure, it would either have to be disallowed altogether or space created for a car wanting to turn to reside, otherwise the bike lane is going to face the same issues as pedestrian crossings do now. Yes FL has a pitiful track record.
@loll22 None of ya'll are getting it. Right on red is an accommodation of convenience for cars, NOT for pedestrians and cyclists. This type of infrastructure gives priority to the safety of pedestrians + cyclists. Lights are coordinated so that travel through the intersection is efficient and safe. That means red = stop no matter what.
@loll22 In the video when that car ran the red light to turn right, that would have technically been legal in the US (if he had stopped first) but it is always illegal in the Netherlands. I highly encourage this type of change in the US but it will require a cultural shift in thinking about who has priority on the road (Pedestrians over cars) and education to inform people of these changes.
Thanks for the video, would you say the majority of the intersection have a separate phase for right turning cars from straight bicyclists or a minority? It seems a separate phase would only be necessary for high volume right turns.
@markenlei ya, i thought that was it. blind people would be safer if there were no cars. traffic signals are always beeping and clicking in my city. i would rather listen to birds. i'm a futuristic technophile luddite.
Are cyclist/lorry accidents common in the Netherlands? I noticed the bus making right turn and the design of the junction actually seeming to almost rule out cyclists being run over by turning lorries.
@TemiZee the latest press report from the Dutch Bureau of Statistics said this about road deaths in turning incidents: "In 2010, 4 cyclists were killed in right hook incidents with a truck. In 2009 this figure was 10.”
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DaniloMartinsdCastro 1 month ago
@DaniloMartinsdCastro I uploaded a new subtitles file and it works again.
markenlei 1 month ago
I love how this system works. I wonder if this one would work in a small city in Philippines with tight 2-4 lane roads and overhead pole cables.
87boombox 3 months ago
I would love to see this type of junction in Florida. Even though I prefer to drive, I like to give people the choice of transport and Floridian streets are notoriously unfriendly to those on foot or bike.
I do have a question though. Could this kind of system still work with "right on red"? That is the popular standard for most of Florida.
loll22 4 months ago
@loll22 Almost everywhere in the US right turn on red is allowed unless otherwise stated. As an everyday cyclist/pedestrian I really dislike that system. Pedestrian crossings become useless from occupation by cars waiting to turn, etc. If we had this infrastructure, it would either have to be disallowed altogether or space created for a car wanting to turn to reside, otherwise the bike lane is going to face the same issues as pedestrian crossings do now. Yes FL has a pitiful track record.
tetrabee 4 months ago
@loll22 None of ya'll are getting it. Right on red is an accommodation of convenience for cars, NOT for pedestrians and cyclists. This type of infrastructure gives priority to the safety of pedestrians + cyclists. Lights are coordinated so that travel through the intersection is efficient and safe. That means red = stop no matter what.
kulo0903kid 4 months ago
@loll22 In the video when that car ran the red light to turn right, that would have technically been legal in the US (if he had stopped first) but it is always illegal in the Netherlands. I highly encourage this type of change in the US but it will require a cultural shift in thinking about who has priority on the road (Pedestrians over cars) and education to inform people of these changes.
kulo0903kid 4 months ago
Very interesting video. I'd like to add a sub-title in English and especially in Brasilian Portuguese. Is ti possbile to help us on that?
manouchk38 4 months ago
Thanks for the video, would you say the majority of the intersection have a separate phase for right turning cars from straight bicyclists or a minority? It seems a separate phase would only be necessary for high volume right turns.
schlthss33 8 months ago
that left turn timing/synchronizing was cool. that annoying clicking sound at the end was not.
andrespereyda 8 months ago
@andrespereyda the clicks tell blind people when the lights are green
markenlei 8 months ago 5
@markenlei ya, i thought that was it. blind people would be safer if there were no cars. traffic signals are always beeping and clicking in my city. i would rather listen to birds. i'm a futuristic technophile luddite.
andrespereyda 8 months ago
just invest all that money on making jet packs instead of making junctions.
no one would need cars OR bicycles if they all had jetpacks.
MrKra7as 8 months ago
@MrKra7as i'd rather use anti-gravity and teleportation. jet packs are for low-brows
andrespereyda 8 months ago
Are cyclist/lorry accidents common in the Netherlands? I noticed the bus making right turn and the design of the junction actually seeming to almost rule out cyclists being run over by turning lorries.
TemiZee 9 months ago
@TemiZee the latest press report from the Dutch Bureau of Statistics said this about road deaths in turning incidents: "In 2010, 4 cyclists were killed in right hook incidents with a truck. In 2009 this figure was 10.”
That is the figure for the whole country.
markenlei 9 months ago 5