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  • whAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN THE UK HIPSTERS HAVE RAPTED THIS MUSIC.I JUST WATCHED SOME NOTTINGHAM DJ WITH A LAPTOP PLAY SOMETHING THAT SOUNDED LIKE VOMIT .THIS GENERATION ARE COMPLETLY RETARDED.

  • Diane Charlemagne is the inimitable vocalist. She sang with Cool Down Zone, 52nd Street, Urban Cookie Collective and Nomad Soul. Look her up. Her work is exquisite.

  • but on another note i could probably listen to electronic made music all the time too if i could find more artists i like.

  • "i dont want to do the dishes till the sinks filled" -helreath from SROM from the song "i hate music"

  • electronic made music is great. satans revenge on mankind is god... for example i can listen to a goldie song maybe 10 times and ill move on to another one. satans revenge on mankind i can play everyday all day for a year straight. thats the difference.

  • ROB PLAYFORD! thats who gave goldie a start. cause goldie sure as hell didnt write his first album!

    dnb fucking sucks balls! hacks fuck off. , goldie was never good ( dude seriously, you and youe shitty merc, need to stop driving around london) cause it's all ( ah fuck here comes goldie again) fans , get a grip. reasearch 2 tunes , snake style and the razors edge... learn where jungle came from you fucking muppets

  • @phrenicc

    .

    its common knowledge that playford engineered that album and that goldie was the creative force behind all of his work regardless of the engineer.also something you fail to mention, terminator, being one of the most influential and ahead-of-it's-time releases of that year..and the label metalheadz, without a doubt one of if not the most respected labels in the genre, not to mention its longevity, consistency and impecable quality control. where is moving shadow now? lol

  • Part starting from 3:37 is soooooooooooooooooo awesome!!!

  • @skatewhabitat drum and bass will never die

  • they can both be listened to but goldie is on a whole notha level and pendulum is shit. pendulum and dieselboy killed drum and bass.

  • Daje rade

  • ahh im in heaven

  • Music evolves into more complex successors, but there will never be anything like the pioneering tracks that paved the road for them.

  • This is classic DnB, I will never get sick of it. Cause it is sik.

  • big london beat 90tys

  • Anyone know the year this was released?

  • @zlgblz I don't know the year the single came out, but Goldies LP with this track on it was released 1994/95 I think. I might be wrong.

  • Just a pleasure to listen to this.

  • bring back the old skool day of vibe alight, with hixxy's and co e's will never die party party hardcore

  • love me some Goldie

  • this is great! love for the origins of dnb!

  • Those were the days, god I feel old.......

  • a hymn for cyber-church

  • I don't understand why Pendulum and Goldie can't both be listened to.

    I'm a fan of both and both have contributed to the evolution and success of DnB in their own regard.

    Take off your fucking hipster glasses.

  • @ThaFroBro I wish I could infinite thumbs up...

  • @ThaFroBro please do not put goldie and pendulum in the same sentence ever again

  • Takes me back.. When I was young....blah blah

    1995 Tribal Gathering Luton..... Goldie's set...... WICKED !!!!!!!!!

  • This Goldie song is great! I love it!

  • gute alte Zeiten....

  • this music comes from jazz, funk, soul, hip hop, punk, house and techno influences

    pendulum and datsik come from influences a lot more shallow. i.e cheesy rock. there is a big difference musically. thats why i cannot listen to them.........

  • @Inglejuice dont you FUCKING hate on datsik you moronic faggot!

  • @fatbob2011

    lol 

  • @fatbob2011 Watch out, we got a real badass over here.

  • @KnusteRuderLOFI aww yeaeh!!!

  • @Inglejuice dude!

    you realise goldie didnt even write his first album yeah?

    the dude is a hack!

    ask rob playford, pretty sure he will remember writing it.

    but then again, you are talking about dnb, (you know when jungle finally sucked)

  • i wish i was 18 in this era i love orginal dnb like this

  • I was playin dis shit back when i was 11-12 years old, age dont mean shit, Some are blessed enough to have a good ear for quality and REAL music!

    Timeless is and always will be a classic album transgressing all genres, also recommend u read Goldies Bio, makes u appreciate his talent so much more!

    Peace!

  • listen to this through a good stereo and it will blow your bollocks off...

  • I believe when this came out, the music (when done right) was called Jungle.

  • new to drum n bass and didnt believe the dj hazard comment so i check it out, he was pretty much right

  • When this cd came out my brother payd 4 it more tnen hes week pay here in Poland. It was whart every peny. Thats one of the best longlplays ever!

  • @kermitttt respect

  • I agree with TheThodi. Everyday DNB artist are looking for a way to make the beat that much better than the last. Golide is sick! undenyably. But the arguement of pioneers vs artist today will always be around, no matter what genre. Hip hop for instance, artist of today will never compare to Grand master flash, Nas, Pac etc. Same goes for rock, country. I dont know, all im saying is DNB FOR LIFE. KEEP IT FUKIN DIRTY

  • toto je fantastická hudba prepracovaná do detailu . celý album je geniálny . lepšie sa už to urobiť nedá .

  • Unbelievable how fantastic the Mastering and Sound Design on this CD is...Rob Playford and Goldie are fantastic when put together in a Studio. On the " Sound-on-Sound" Website they did a Interview with Rob Playford and listed all the used Audio Equipment they used...the Studio was actually small and packed with nothing really special. But damn do these Boys know how to make the best out of it...

  • @howie094 nope never heard that name... I never said that every new artist is good or better than this, also this could have happened "in the good old days" and it probably happened... anyway I just wanted to explain that stuff like pendulum may not be better but at least brings some people to start trying out new stuff which maybe could again be compared to goldies stuff...

  • Dubstep isnt so bad. There is some good chillout dubstep.

    But if you look at people like BOrgore and Datsik and Cookie Monster, then youre not getting the real definition of dubstep.

  • @KandymanMusik Are you shitting me, Datsik has some of the best dubstep out there. 

  • @infestedduke maybe according to your tastes. 

  • @KandymanMusik No, everyone knows Datsik was one of the most influential dubstep artists and helped make the genre more famous, which wasn't too good because it forced dubstep to become mainstream. But yea there is a lot of shitty dubstep these days

  • @infestedduke In essence Datsik has become quite mainstream himself.

    But we can all agree that there is some shitty dubstep.

  • @infestedduke Everyone knows that Datsik is complete brostep shite and helped by making a complete mockery of the genre.

  • @Skreeaamizm

    Everybody knows you're a faggot.

    Datsik is good. I don't care what you say.

  • @lukewarneke ok homophobe

  • @Skreeaamizm

    Haha, looking back I really didn't mean that to be so inflammatory, I just hate the elitism towards newer producers even when they have quality productions.

  • @lukewarneke ...Datsik is newer

  • @Skreeaamizm

    Exactly, and the disrespect given towards him just for that reason is what I'm referring to.

  • this guy sounds like a fag

  • @BekBud1

    "this guy" who sings this is called Diane Charlemagne, a woman with a great voice. Goldie is the Producer. Please do some research before posting rubbish like that.

  • @DavidoffNeumann High five.

  • I've never really known Goldies music, but my god have I been missing out, wasted my ear drums for so many years!!!

  • i think the issue is the sound was new back then. so anything that came out was original. the problem now is that now one is pushing the limits as far as sound is concerned.

  • who thinks orgion unknown -vally of shadows is the best drum n bass tune is the world

  • I remember being in high school and getting my hands on the Timeless album and some of the earlier Moving Shadow tracks. I miss the jazz influence of creativity in general of the style. I'm from Atlanta, Ga, and surprisingly we had a pretty big following of this style even amidst a growing Trance following. These are the sort of tracks that got me in to spinning records. I have to agree with the others who've mentioned the decline of of Jungle/DnB. Poor kids these days. Dubstep sucks.

  • we had it good in the 90s music has gone from sugar to shit

  • @nlt3000 yeah, the 90's produced so much good music at such a fast rate, its giving us time to absorb it. Too much good music without a downtime you don't get to fully flavour it. There are still good producers today, but its underground, how I like it, let the people who never really knew good music get caught up in the bullshit of todays commercialism. Separates the real G's from the donuts.

  • @nlt3000 couldn't have said it better

  • My interpretation of what people say of the some of the newer stuff being not as good has nothing to do with age. Some artists are just far more superior than others. Look how many different beats and rhythm patterns flow through Goldies tracks and its almost like your on a ride through another level. Some of the songs I have heard from crappy artists just has the same beat for 4 minutes with a beep boop here and there and frankly it bores the shit out of me.

  • Angel...my favourite track...need to dig this out of my cupboard again..

  • shut the fuck up about newer drum and bass being crap, everything derives from earlier popular genres, its not your place to decide whats good and bad!

    this tune is the nuts!!!

  • My favorite Goldie tune here!

  • VOICES OF BLACK

  • Yh I think the problematic state comes in play, when people c that the music is progressing//progressed in2 bullshit, na mean..of course, things evolve & change, but your not listening 2a proper scene, or way of life, lived and breathed anymore, your listening to mass appeal, what the majority of the mass followers are listening2, and being told is new, improved, innovative, when clearly it's not, and if you can't see that well then your as mindless, a pathetic as they are, bandwaggon for real!

  • D&B hasn't gone too commercial (shit), you have! If you can't be fucked to dig past Pendulum & Hazard then fuck off, you clearly know nothing about the scene and were a bandwaggon jumper from the start! D&B was amazing & is still amazing. Goldie was probably the most commercial D&B artist I can remember from the early 90's (except Baby D). No disrespect to Goldie, just to those that think modern D&B producers aren't putting every bit as much heart into this art as the Oldskool!

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  • @harriisnotinabox Yes it does. I'm just saying, Drum n Bass hasn't.

  • Bought Timeless =] 

  • This is Drum & Bass, not that hyper shit everyone listens to now.

  • D&B has fallen far, very far, from it's original vision. There is some ok stuff that comes out every once in a while, every now and then, but for the most part, the scene needs some serious Band-Aids.

  • Couldn't agree more with all these sentiments. Goldie, and Omnio Trio, basically invented the Drum & Bass genre. They were the "real geniuses".

  • @blenkinsop74 . You did`nt mention Ltj Bukem!!!! .I have uploaded the original (1996) Logical progression album!.

    Peace!. :)

  • @blenkinsop74

    Not quite invented it. Evolved it,yes. Invented it ,no.

  • Damn, I'm 35 and look back at great sessions at The Blue Note in London with the Metalheadz. Having come through the acid house/oldskool and then early D&B eras in England, I lost interest in D&B at the end of the 90's. Some tracks are still fresh, but it's changed too much, with producers making tracks with nothing but noise layered over noise. Gone are the days of intelligent D&B like Goldie, Bukem etc. Making a well-layered track takes talent...something that's missing in producers now.

  • ¡ plɹoʍ ollǝɥ

  • Goldies stuff always sounds like it was made yesterday, he knew his way around a track

  • this is the music! timeless... now they all trying to become a singers/dj/producers/ jerks...fuck them, and they sissymusic and singing...they never become timeless

  • old school 

  • makes me want to move to Manhattan 20 years ago and contract HIV.

  • @msa1985 lmao This comment makes me want to invent time travel...

  • Jungle IS massive.

  • DnB like this will never die out as long as i'm listening to it. This is EPIC

  • goldie is the classical genius of the 90s.

    if you listen to the rest of the album.

    and you come from the inner city.

  • different types of dnb are tailored to different audiences>its a fact hazard is great, goldie is great the two dont mix but its all from the same tree> support DNB

  • i can only agree

  • why people keep making religion out of music just listen and enjoy.

  • This isn't on the vinyl album Timeless, well not on my copy anyway :(

    Only Saint Angel.

  • @Thunderdome616...

    I Couldn't agree more! These guys pushed the technology of the day to the limits.

    whereas Pendulum and the likes are dire. Just awful.

    Who buys that crap? They need educating on the origins of Drum and Bass!!

  • @MrYee13 Spot fucking on mate. I just noticed one of their videos five minutes ago...12, MILLION!!! and something hits!!! What the fuck is it coming too...G...

  • @MrYee13

    I'll admit, pendulums new stuff is kinda shite, but they're not really doing DnB now.

    Their older stuff was much much better

  • @MrYee13 Yeah but no one actually gives a fuck about the origins mate. all aboutt the here and now

  • @pacmandem Spoken like a man that doesn't really know the point in what he's doing. Origins are everything. You're doing whatever you do because you're copying the man before. The people that start things are the real geniuses.

  • @pacmandem Technomoo already covered the most basic point.

    Roots matter mate, whether you want to acknowledge that fact or not.

    Besides... Concerning Drum n Bass... Is there a here and now?

  • @MrYee13 I'm not saying roots don't matter i'm just sayin you cant hold on to roots/ the good ole days forever. But i mean i say that now (im 18) because the first dnb i was exposed to was what around 3 or 4 years ago when dnb was in it's latter stages.

    But im sure in 10-15 years time when all these youngens start hypin about dubstep or whatever the new genre is, i'm sure my comments will be reminiscent of yours and technomoo's.

  • @pacmandem Agree with you on your comments will mirror ours in 10-15 years.

    Less about holding on to the past I think though, more the power of tunes to take you back. It wasn't the era as much as the youth that was great.

    When DnB was new though, music making software had no generic settings for it. It was cooked up from scratch. More craft involved. Why newer stuff sounds samey to me I think. I reckon Dubstep will for you... As if the tune was made in 5 minutes using presets.

  • @MrYee13 I couldn't agree less... first of all, goldie is awesome, there's no doubt in that... but still dnb has improved, I wouldn't call goldies music conventional dnb, because "conventional" dnb alters day by day, there simply HAS to be difference, if every dnb song sounded like this or goldies music in general, dnb would suck and goldie would suck too because he would sound like everybody else... so: LET THERE BE DIFFERENCE, if you don't like it, don't listen to it... simple isn't it?

  • @MrYee13 I like pendulum and goldie. DnB has evolved so much it's practically a different genre than it used to be, so don't bash the new stuff just because it isn't your thing.

  • @MrYee13

    As an Oldskool hardcore hound I must say... I´ve actually heard a good song by Pendulum...but they were standing on the shoulders of giants ;)

  • the great thing about this tune is the fact that you can still hear the dub plate origins in it. modern stuff has evolved, ( which is all well and good ), but it's forgotten where it came from.

  • it doesnt just end with drum and bass, the dance or alternative scene as a whole has nosedived in recent years, for many reasons, as much to do with money and commerciality as anything else. I'm thankful my youth was spent listening jigging and blazing to this and others alike, as opposed to the 2nd rate music that the kids have got nowadays, fuck we had it good and we didnt even realise it!

  • Fucking magic

  • this is relaxing and awesome unlike modern dnb. Its too fast, pointless and gives you a headache...

  • from the days when Goldie had a vision. with the help of others he made tunes from 92 to 95 that simply accelerated drum n bass's evolution. amazing stuff

  • ah dude,im from Chile...and i was into this shit back in the 98...you guys dont know hw hard was to get a single fuckin track down there....now you just type it on youtube and thats it....AWESOME...Goldie changed my life somehow..i was 15 when all this.Used to have this as soundtrack the first times i shagged :D

  • love this tune to death

  • MEMORIES!!!!!

  • King kills hard. The epitome of sensibility in the era.  :( So beautiful, so dark, so hard. :(

  • had this on vinyl and lost it!!! nice upload bro...glad to have found it again!

  • massive tune

  • copped this album in 95 i think..must have been 13 at time...happy days..loving those pads..peace

  • I love the feel of this at 3:15-3:45. It makes me skin creep. When Hype dropped it at the Paradise I nearly croaked.

    Is there a remix which focusses on that section?

  • well, at least you have more of it in most of the angel-remixes, like from teebee, loxy or peshay back from narm. Worth it.

  • "Saint Angel" - that's fierce

  • @Nilotick yeah its called saint angel...used to frequent paradise myself...that was in angel islington......lol!!

  • 19 years old-Big gulp cup of Gin and juice-2 micro dots of mescaline and 10 years later i still can't get this timeless album out of my head

  • I disagree with Thunderdome616, check out Hospital Records some great music being put out by them. I've been listening since 91 and it changes and expands and it hits points of recycled moments throughout the years as does any music but has it gone to shit...I don't think so! Let me paraphrase from a track " some of these guys won't make a dime, some of them will die poor and alone but they've been the true rebels n the true rebels always walk alone".

  • yhyh geeza i love the old and the new.........some people just can't get their asses out of the 90's......

    jungle didnt start till like 93 properly but i get what ya mean lol

  • i aggree

  • looking back at artists like Goldie it makes me think what a shitty state modern drum & bass is in. If you look at artists like DJ Hazard, you will know how shit it really has got

  • @Thunderdome616 agreed in some respects. Hazard still smashes it if youre in the mood for some "jump up" though ive got a say. There is a time a place though, and this is an immortal album.

  • @Thunderdome616 yeah mate!!! although for m its all about the liquid stuff at the moment... BCEE, Bachelors of Science, Lenzman to name a few... just stay away from producers who feel a wobbly bass makes a song... ;)

  • @Thunderdome616 I HOPE you don't mean that HAZARD is bad..........

    HAZARD is goood.

  • @Colombiani No, Hazard puts out COPIOUS amounts of offal. He's written TWO good tunes...They all sound almost identical to each other and they all sound like garbage.

    This is a modern electronic music masterpiece...But y'all need to be looking ROB PLAYFORD as the man who wrote this album. Goldie just has the name.

  • @djfakt

    Dude if I could thumbs up this comment a million times I would!

    You've hit the nail right on the head. Without Rob Playford (or the capable help of Tom & Jerry under their pseudonyms Tek-9), Goldie would be NOWHERE!

    He was NOT the creative driving force behind the Metalheadz sound, that was Playford. What has Goldie produced in the period since he and Rob parted ways? Nothing but endless reams of sonic drivel that shows up the gold toothed twat for the talentless mug he really is!

  • @Thunderdome616 thats becuase the rise of bedroom producers making music on their computers with samples has taken over, and now it seems the music industry is open to all sorts of tosh.

  • @Thunderdome616 theres plenty of people making sick new dnb

  • @Thunderdome616 I love this older style of dnb, I'm inspired. I gotta try this now. I don't know much about older dnb artists or jungle, but I know that the dnb I make is normally chilled out like this, only not as good, I lack the expierence, but I'll get there if I try. Also, take a listen to Glass Room by Speak if you want a good example of modern DNB. More relaxing than most stuff, still got nothing on Goldie though :P Why do kids my age like things like Nero, it may be dnb but it just sucks

  • @Thunderdome616 : I agree.. But I don't agree so much with the DJ Hazard comment. His style was fresh (as was Twisted Individuals) when it first came out. But now so many cats are just cashing in on that jump-up wobble style it is indeed pretty lame. Thank god we still have the likes of Paradox, Macc, Fanu (which ok granted is more choppage or edits) but still utilizes alot of the elements of atmospheric/ambient dnb. But I hear ya.. Now if only Source Direct would come back and save us all!

  • @Thunderdome616 : I agree.. But I don't agree so much with the DJ Hazard comment. His style was fresh (as was Twisted Individuals) when it first came out. But now so many cats are just cashing in on that jump-up wobble style it is indeed pretty lame. Thank god we still have the likes of Paradox, Macc, Fanu (which ok granted is more choppage or edits) but still utilizes alot of the elements of atmospheric/ambient dnb. But I hear ya.. Now if only Source Direct would come back and save us all!

  • @Thunderdome616 i was there in london - know wot u mean

  • @Thunderdome616 i was there in london - know wot u mean truely timeless

    

  • @Thunderdome616 It's not shit, it's different. It's okay that you guys like the old, original stuff, but because you don't like something, or pretend to not like something because it's new, doesn't mean it's bad.

  • @Thunderdome616 i jst see it as the the whole genre has moved and sort of sub divided. I love listenin to the new shit out these days but i always love coming back to this old skool flavour which is to me is completely different from the dnb out today. The onli common thing they share is that they re both classified as dnb.

  • @Thunderdome616 To slag off dj Hazard and Pendulum ect shows ignorance.The point about drum and bass is the multitude of styles under one umbrella.Goldie at the time was different and introduced timestretch but would not have been able to contemplate doing so in other genres.So you need to respect other styles including the likes of Hazard or else the music would be stale.

  • @bobhopes11: I agree bobhopes. I can appreciate Goldie to the fullest. In fact, I saw him last night in DC and was right by the booth through the whole set rockin' out. At the same time, I'm a huge Hazard fan. The energy and twisted beats he puts out are just fun and crazy and exemplify an evolution of DnB. Goldie is a classic DnB artist who should never be overlooked. They're both great! But for now, Goldie is the master.

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