In the sixties it was rebellion. Now it's a matter of no jobs for most people. They have to find a way to survive and banding together for the better of one another is their necessity. God be with you who are just trying to live and let live.
@awebreeze1 hows about you stop smoking weed and face the fact that you will have to compete for a job, rather than just sit your dumbass somewhere because YOU feel like YOU have no chance of finding a job.
shit, I wish we had some sort of program that could fly all of your occupiers and squatters to the middle of a forest in Canada and then laugh when you all starve to death because you were too busy getting high when you should have been growing crops and hunting.
@awebreeze1 No it isn't lol. It's a matter of a bunch of students wanting to cause trouble and destroy things other people have worked hard for and brought.
It's not like they're squatting in an old run down school, most the time people are specifically choosing big houses in privalleged areas, which people like me couldn't even dream of living in. It's unfair and should be a crime.
what happened to the community centre or was that not rebellious enough so you decide to live like you are in the third world, hell why not go to a shanty town in Brazil for the authentic experience?
RESURRECT the HOMESTEADING ACT of 1861 which was signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln (ended in 1976) whereby, unlike the original act which gave away Federal Lands West of the Mississippi, All lands, estates, properties of deceased individuals without heirs or successors will be recycled and given freely to all citizens who have no land, home, or assets. Starting with Eldest on down to the youngest! Aging is beyond our control, and Land is a non renewable resource.
@edj66 oh bullshit. some people are lazy fucks that inherit massive amounts of property and do nothing with it, that's why such places exist in the first place. if you're not going to do anything with your building then you can't complain when someone else does. use or lose it, that should be the law.
@edj66 it is my business. because rotting unused buildings and houses become infested with vermin, including the human kind. my taxes pay for the crime, arson and health hazards associated with urban decay. just look at detroit. thousands of unused houses and buildings cost taxpayers huge amounts of money in police and emergency services due to the problems they cause, culminating in "devil's night" where the week before halloween fed-up citizens set fire to hundreds of them.
@jwallbanger Give me evidence that a large majority of these private buildings being squatted in are derlic and that the people squatting in them are actually restoring the buildings.
@jwallbanger My mum deals with these cases in court, and she has never come accross a case where the building was falling apart and squatters went in there and restored it. It is usually private homes in decent condition and it's always the case that these squatters have damaged the house and committed theft by using eletricity and damaging property. The squatting act opens a gate to committing crime.
@jwallbanger Sorry but your left-wing thinking is absurd. Imagine if we had your attitude, just taking everything and not giving... we would turn into a third-world country. Are you really that ignorant to think starvation and bad infant mortality rates and no healthcare is a good thing? I am disgusted by people like you.
@ForeverComplaining And people like you think that property and business owners should be able to externalize their costs onto the common taxpayer. Derelict buildings cost money. You said your self they open the door to crime. Who pays for that crime? Certainly not the property owner.
I'm not disgusted by people like you. I wouldn't sink so low as to say that about someone I have a simple difference in opinion with.
@jwallbanger But it doesn't matter what I think my family are tax payers, and I am too and we always have been and always will be. We're givers to society not takers (unlike your lazy bunch who just scrounge off other people's hard work and wouldn't even know what it's like the be an oridnary working person with bills for a day!).
1% of tax payers account for 25% of tax income, not to mention the poorer in society not paying tax actually causes a bigger loss than the rich.
@ForeverComplaining For your information I'm a taxpayer too, and a business owner. What matters to me is what percent of someone's income is contributed, not actual dollar amounts. I'm sick of that elitist attitude that because they believe they contribute more taxes so they are entitled to more influence on the government, or that that somehow justifies their externalizing business costs onto the public.
@jwallbanger No I actually believe that businesses who don't pay their tax shouldn't be allowed to rely on public services. I agree with you on that, but what I don't agree with is that if I wanted a house in the country and one in london, to go to work in and run a business, I would have to fear squatters get in and ruining it and me losing everything I own having to fight legal battles, it's like socialism.
@ForeverComplaining Yeah I don't disagree. And I think those stories of squatters taking over McMansions get a lot of headlines but are much more the exception than the rule. What I'm talking about are the squatters in the video, that take over dilapidated buildings that ought to be razed anyway because they're doing more harm than good. There are many inner city squats that are well controlled and full of decent, working people that just don't make enough money for rent.
@jwallbanger lol? these squatters do *not* look like decent people to me, because they are not. Regardless though, in cases like this I do make an execption, however if the property owner approaches them and tells them to get out, they must. Because obviously that means the property owner of this building will do it up and sell it or keep it, to open something valuable to the economy which will create work.
@ForeverComplaining And furthermore, if property owners don't want their buildings taken over by squatters, they should spend the money to at least properly secure them and for a security service to check them out regularly (if they are too lazy to do it themselves.)
We live in troubled times. People will seek shelter and when you're cold and tired laws mean nothing.
Most rich benficiaries of someone else's hard work don't understand the real world.
@ForeverComplaining Well that's what I'm talking about with externalizing costs. Some lazy fuck owns an empty building they aren't doing anything with, but doesn't secure it well, doesn't inspect it regularly and then goes all crybaby when some homeless people take up shelter in it! It becomes either a well controlled squat like many of the ones in NYC, or a crime infested shithole that costs the mommy state a fortune to deal with the results.
@jwallbanger No. This is absolute bull shit, most these squatters are purposely targetting luxurious houses. There's plently of empty schools and office buildings, why not target them? (although even I disagree with this BUT I can understand it) why must people have to targaret an expensive mansion? It's because they are greedy and want something for nothing and taking doesn't make the world go around, contributing does.
@jwallbanger What makes you think you're so entitled to other peoples money when they have worked hard for it and choosen to spend it on that person.
No all buildings are, for example someone may own a home and be renting it out and get squatters, or someone may be trying to sell their home but it may not sell, so they rent out else where whilst leaving it empty on the market.
@jwallbanger from this whole 'lazy fucks that inherit' I assumed that you were against inheritence, which you are but you wont admit it as it will only add validity to my argument. Regardless, before I continue arguing on this matter I would like you to define to me what you class as 'unused'.
@ForeverComplaining I am against unearned money in any form. I'm glad to admit that. Why do make such stupid assumptions about people? It reflects very poorly back on you. I define unused as unused, as in, not currently being used or in planning to be used for any purpose. A dictionary may help you greatly.
@jwallbanger Good. I'm sure you'll also be against all forms of welfare, the NHS and free education, since most of the people who use them did not pay enough tax to even fund the healthcare, education etc they will recieve.
@ForeverComplaining In fact I am against free education in it's current form. The schools I went to were hardly different than prisons. Teachers who encouraged bullies, gang violence, teaching kids to endure boredom so they can work in a cubicle or assembly line someday. Socialism and capitalism are both worthy ideals, and neither have ever really been tried.
We have big gov porkbarrells, kept filled by the middle class, with rich and poor vultures devouring their contents.
@ForeverComplaining Oh and you really didn't understand my comment. My obvious point was that we are all entitled to a fair share of tax-funded gov services. That's the point of pooling money, to balance the equation and thereby have a fairly harmonized society. I said I'm tired of rich people who feel they deserve a bigger slice of the pie because they pay more taxes. They don't. Because the system that enabled them to get lucky and make it big was paid for by others.
@jwallbanger Can you explain what 'fair share' is btw. As the labour party and sometimes tories love to use these terms, but the funny part is, (I actually live in a 'working' class area), most of these people imo don't deserve any money as they don't bother going to work and just have children for free housing and that's wrong and unfair on tax payers like myself who work all day, still can't afford holidays and then find out that people are claiming out money & doing f*ck all.
@jwallbanger I'm not tired of rich people, because plently pay taxes and offer jobs. Even the ones who inherit and do nothing still are great because they either invest their money (create jobs and stimulate the economy) or piss it up and (create jobs and stimulate the economy).
It's not their problem, it's the people like these in this video who just want to sit around all day partying and smoking marijuana and the type who just have children for the free stuff.
There is deep division in society: Between those who want to work and enjoy the fruits of their labor & abide by & uphold the Constitution, and an increasing number of what has become fashionable to call the "disaffected", the "disadvantaged", the "differently motivated". What we used to call lazy people, dishonest people, people who do not want to take responsibility for their actions or lives.
Please God, we are not a nation of squatters, or eco cranks but a great and proud nation.
If everyone just said 'That house is nice, I don't want to pay rent, the owner is on holiday, let me live in it *breaks in*'
There would be no houses because there would be no profit to be made.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
scabies, bedbugs, crusty stains on the furniture and mattresses, vermin, mold, yes sounds like paradise!
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP HIPPIES, GROW A DICK AND GET A JOB.
Shaymeonyoo 1 month ago
In the sixties it was rebellion. Now it's a matter of no jobs for most people. They have to find a way to survive and banding together for the better of one another is their necessity. God be with you who are just trying to live and let live.
awebreeze1 2 months ago
@awebreeze1 hows about you stop smoking weed and face the fact that you will have to compete for a job, rather than just sit your dumbass somewhere because YOU feel like YOU have no chance of finding a job.
shit, I wish we had some sort of program that could fly all of your occupiers and squatters to the middle of a forest in Canada and then laugh when you all starve to death because you were too busy getting high when you should have been growing crops and hunting.
Shaymeonyoo 1 month ago
@awebreeze1 No it isn't lol. It's a matter of a bunch of students wanting to cause trouble and destroy things other people have worked hard for and brought.
It's not like they're squatting in an old run down school, most the time people are specifically choosing big houses in privalleged areas, which people like me couldn't even dream of living in. It's unfair and should be a crime.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
what happened to the community centre or was that not rebellious enough so you decide to live like you are in the third world, hell why not go to a shanty town in Brazil for the authentic experience?
chrysalis72 2 months ago
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You should check out my Brighton squat documentaries
supermecis 3 months ago
RESURRECT the HOMESTEADING ACT of 1861 which was signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln (ended in 1976) whereby, unlike the original act which gave away Federal Lands West of the Mississippi, All lands, estates, properties of deceased individuals without heirs or successors will be recycled and given freely to all citizens who have no land, home, or assets. Starting with Eldest on down to the youngest! Aging is beyond our control, and Land is a non renewable resource.
EasternMerchant 4 months ago
Home owners rights should come first. Sorry, but if you don't own it, it's not yours to use or occupy. Or shouldn't be. End of.
edj66 8 months ago
@edj66 oh bullshit. some people are lazy fucks that inherit massive amounts of property and do nothing with it, that's why such places exist in the first place. if you're not going to do anything with your building then you can't complain when someone else does. use or lose it, that should be the law.
jwallbanger 3 weeks ago
@jwallbanger Why is your business what people do with their own property? It's not. Thankfully you don't make the law!
edj66 2 weeks ago
@edj66 it is my business. because rotting unused buildings and houses become infested with vermin, including the human kind. my taxes pay for the crime, arson and health hazards associated with urban decay. just look at detroit. thousands of unused houses and buildings cost taxpayers huge amounts of money in police and emergency services due to the problems they cause, culminating in "devil's night" where the week before halloween fed-up citizens set fire to hundreds of them.
jwallbanger 2 weeks ago
@jwallbanger it's called "agenda 21"
artsychic2000 5 days ago
@jwallbanger Give me evidence that a large majority of these private buildings being squatted in are derlic and that the people squatting in them are actually restoring the buildings.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining Give me evidence that they're not. Do your own research, punk.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger My mum deals with these cases in court, and she has never come accross a case where the building was falling apart and squatters went in there and restored it. It is usually private homes in decent condition and it's always the case that these squatters have damaged the house and committed theft by using eletricity and damaging property. The squatting act opens a gate to committing crime.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@jwallbanger Sorry but your left-wing thinking is absurd. Imagine if we had your attitude, just taking everything and not giving... we would turn into a third-world country. Are you really that ignorant to think starvation and bad infant mortality rates and no healthcare is a good thing? I am disgusted by people like you.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining And people like you think that property and business owners should be able to externalize their costs onto the common taxpayer. Derelict buildings cost money. You said your self they open the door to crime. Who pays for that crime? Certainly not the property owner.
I'm not disgusted by people like you. I wouldn't sink so low as to say that about someone I have a simple difference in opinion with.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger But it doesn't matter what I think my family are tax payers, and I am too and we always have been and always will be. We're givers to society not takers (unlike your lazy bunch who just scrounge off other people's hard work and wouldn't even know what it's like the be an oridnary working person with bills for a day!).
1% of tax payers account for 25% of tax income, not to mention the poorer in society not paying tax actually causes a bigger loss than the rich.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining For your information I'm a taxpayer too, and a business owner. What matters to me is what percent of someone's income is contributed, not actual dollar amounts. I'm sick of that elitist attitude that because they believe they contribute more taxes so they are entitled to more influence on the government, or that that somehow justifies their externalizing business costs onto the public.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger No I actually believe that businesses who don't pay their tax shouldn't be allowed to rely on public services. I agree with you on that, but what I don't agree with is that if I wanted a house in the country and one in london, to go to work in and run a business, I would have to fear squatters get in and ruining it and me losing everything I own having to fight legal battles, it's like socialism.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining Yeah I don't disagree. And I think those stories of squatters taking over McMansions get a lot of headlines but are much more the exception than the rule. What I'm talking about are the squatters in the video, that take over dilapidated buildings that ought to be razed anyway because they're doing more harm than good. There are many inner city squats that are well controlled and full of decent, working people that just don't make enough money for rent.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger lol? these squatters do *not* look like decent people to me, because they are not. Regardless though, in cases like this I do make an execption, however if the property owner approaches them and tells them to get out, they must. Because obviously that means the property owner of this building will do it up and sell it or keep it, to open something valuable to the economy which will create work.
ForeverComplaining 3 days ago
@ForeverComplaining And furthermore, if property owners don't want their buildings taken over by squatters, they should spend the money to at least properly secure them and for a security service to check them out regularly (if they are too lazy to do it themselves.)
We live in troubled times. People will seek shelter and when you're cold and tired laws mean nothing.
Most rich benficiaries of someone else's hard work don't understand the real world.
They live in a bubble.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger Why should people have to buy security? not everyone who owns two properties can afford it.
Some people buy two so they can make a bit of money off rent, but then the people get in there and refuse to pay it.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining Well that's what I'm talking about with externalizing costs. Some lazy fuck owns an empty building they aren't doing anything with, but doesn't secure it well, doesn't inspect it regularly and then goes all crybaby when some homeless people take up shelter in it! It becomes either a well controlled squat like many of the ones in NYC, or a crime infested shithole that costs the mommy state a fortune to deal with the results.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger No. This is absolute bull shit, most these squatters are purposely targetting luxurious houses. There's plently of empty schools and office buildings, why not target them? (although even I disagree with this BUT I can understand it) why must people have to targaret an expensive mansion? It's because they are greedy and want something for nothing and taking doesn't make the world go around, contributing does.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@jwallbanger What makes you think you're so entitled to other peoples money when they have worked hard for it and choosen to spend it on that person.
No all buildings are, for example someone may own a home and be renting it out and get squatters, or someone may be trying to sell their home but it may not sell, so they rent out else where whilst leaving it empty on the market.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining Entitled to other people's money? When did I say that? Your strawman just blew away in your hot air.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger Where else would this inheritence go then?
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining I was talking about an inheritance of unused property, not money. See the difference?
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger from this whole 'lazy fucks that inherit' I assumed that you were against inheritence, which you are but you wont admit it as it will only add validity to my argument. Regardless, before I continue arguing on this matter I would like you to define to me what you class as 'unused'.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining I am against unearned money in any form. I'm glad to admit that. Why do make such stupid assumptions about people? It reflects very poorly back on you. I define unused as unused, as in, not currently being used or in planning to be used for any purpose. A dictionary may help you greatly.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger Good. I'm sure you'll also be against all forms of welfare, the NHS and free education, since most of the people who use them did not pay enough tax to even fund the healthcare, education etc they will recieve.
ForeverComplaining 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining In fact I am against free education in it's current form. The schools I went to were hardly different than prisons. Teachers who encouraged bullies, gang violence, teaching kids to endure boredom so they can work in a cubicle or assembly line someday. Socialism and capitalism are both worthy ideals, and neither have ever really been tried.
We have big gov porkbarrells, kept filled by the middle class, with rich and poor vultures devouring their contents.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@ForeverComplaining Oh and you really didn't understand my comment. My obvious point was that we are all entitled to a fair share of tax-funded gov services. That's the point of pooling money, to balance the equation and thereby have a fairly harmonized society. I said I'm tired of rich people who feel they deserve a bigger slice of the pie because they pay more taxes. They don't. Because the system that enabled them to get lucky and make it big was paid for by others.
jwallbanger 4 days ago
@jwallbanger Can you explain what 'fair share' is btw. As the labour party and sometimes tories love to use these terms, but the funny part is, (I actually live in a 'working' class area), most of these people imo don't deserve any money as they don't bother going to work and just have children for free housing and that's wrong and unfair on tax payers like myself who work all day, still can't afford holidays and then find out that people are claiming out money & doing f*ck all.
ForeverComplaining 3 days ago
@jwallbanger I'm not tired of rich people, because plently pay taxes and offer jobs. Even the ones who inherit and do nothing still are great because they either invest their money (create jobs and stimulate the economy) or piss it up and (create jobs and stimulate the economy).
It's not their problem, it's the people like these in this video who just want to sit around all day partying and smoking marijuana and the type who just have children for the free stuff.
ForeverComplaining 3 days ago
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There is deep division in society: Between those who want to work and enjoy the fruits of their labor & abide by & uphold the Constitution, and an increasing number of what has become fashionable to call the "disaffected", the "disadvantaged", the "differently motivated". What we used to call lazy people, dishonest people, people who do not want to take responsibility for their actions or lives.
Please God, we are not a nation of squatters, or eco cranks but a great and proud nation.
PHILIPCMPHILIP 10 months ago
la fabrica on the beginning :) big up to dalston :)
amytsimss 11 months ago
la fabrica on the beggining :) big up to dalston :)
amytsimss 11 months ago
@ms rennnet who cares WANKER
brandoncipelle 1 year ago
yeah good for charity and doing all the cultural activities that you hold up to so dear but not when you're damaging and stealing our property!
some of your mates are giving you a bad name so clean up your act or go back home if you can't afford to live here!!!
MsRennet 1 year ago
@MsRennet fuck you!!!! u damagi g our lifes !! fuck u and yr mortgage!!
amytsimss 11 months ago
they do
visionontv 2 years ago
Why not repair and look after the buildings you squat then the public would not take such a dim view of squatters.
InternetUser1999 2 years ago 4