Draw a line -- accept personal responsibility. I truly know how difficult threshold prevention is, or is going to be. The OD/MD has AN OBLIGATION when you are at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopters) to explain the remarks by Dr. Prentice, as well as play Don's video to you. Tragically, these ODs ASSUME you are too stupid to understand a rational choice, based on science, at that point. If anything is a scam, it is ASSUMING you don't want plus prevention based on science at 20/40.
Prentice 4 > Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost impossible to induce them to undergo the trial. [ Otis> This is truly the issue. It MUST be the person's wisdom, to accept the "tedious" use of a plus, and to do it with no let up, that would make prevention (at 20/50, -3/4 diopter) possible. THAT is the real and only issue.
Prentice 3 > After reading in these glasses for several days, the patient was able to read print twelve inches from the eyes. In six months I changed the glasses for reading and writing to a +4 D without seeing the patient. After using the +4 D glasses for several months he again came under my care for an examination, when the left eye gave twenty-twentieths vision.
Prentice 2> Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change for the space of two years; eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (-1.25 D is about 20/50 to 20/60 on a Snellen).
Prentice 1> Medical people -- who have truly recognized the natural eye's behavior, and that, at least at the threshold -- IT IS PREVENTABLE. Here is the commentary by a profoundly insightful ophthalmologist. But, as Dr. Prentice states, plus prevention (at -1 diopter is tedious). But to say that "prevention will never happen" is a tragic statement -- because it prevents a preventive scientific study our effort -- that could be effective.
@Blacksquareable Thanks! The scientific data is even more convincing. Prevention with the plus is indeed possible. But I gave up on ODs, and realized that prevention must start before your Snellen goes below 20/40. The ODs have a business -- and their business is to protect THEIR BUSINESS. They make no money by protecting YOUR distant vision. That is why you have no choice but to do it yourself.
If you are a pilot at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopters) an wish to "clear" your Snellen to 20/20, then, on "Google" type, "MyopiaFree". Prevention is possible, but it does take strong motivation to do it -- as you will find from reading this site. It is all FREE, ergo, "MyopiaFree" But like preventing obesity -- it take motivation to do it.
The Eskimo grand-parents (who did no reaing) have a positive status, and excellent distant vision. The grand children (reading at 10 inches to 3 inches -4 and -10 dioters) see their refractive state move from plus to minus -- AS A TOTALLY NATURAL PROCESS. It is not "reading" as such, but rather this terrible habit of a child. BUT, when the child is 20/40, the parents should have this CHOICE explained to them - as an "either/or" choice. The "scam" is to say NOTHING!
Majority Opinion ODs posting here. They will claim that a minus is "perfectly safe" and has no effect on the eye. I would suggest that the person himself read the scientific data, rather than allow some OD to TELL YOU WHAT THE FACTS ARE. The SECOND-OPINION OD will tell you the facts, starting with calling the minus, "poison glasses for children". There is intense bias in these ODs -- that is not helpful.
I'm going to blow your feeble mind with this question: if spectacles used for myopia "harm" your eyes, HOW DID YOU GET MYOPIC IN THE FIRST PLACE? You people are a fucking trip.
@squelch9 You should actually READ scientific reports on the natural eye's behavior. Place a primate eye in a cage for seven years -- and it becomes negative by from -1.6 diopters to -5.8 diopters. The natural eye has this "build in" characteristic. The way to "prevent" is to use a plus to keep your "environment" in the distance. That does work, if the plus is used before they eye goes more "negative" than -3/4 diopters (about 20/40). It is not easy -- but it has been done.
@otissumnerbrown No, YOU should read scientific, peer-reviewed journal articles from PubMed, not bumfuck Pseudoscience Daily. "Plus" lenses will just simulate increased nearsightedness for someone who is already myopic. And this is a wild guess, but I think if you put a primate eye in a cage for 7 years it will rot and decompose. Just a shot in the dark, though. Educate yourself, ignoramus.
@squelch9 Your a fucking retard bro. And a fucking joke. Go shoot yourself you fucking moron. What are you like 12 years old? How the hell did you even get on this video?
@squelch9 Actually squelch has the feeble mind. In science you seek to find out. Just place a strong minus on the natural eye -- and the eye "moves negative". In your language, the natural eye FOLLOWS the accommodation signal. Thus BOTH long-term near, produces negative status for the natural eye. You eye 'adapt' to long-term near BECAUSE of a child's (tragic) habits. THAT is how they develop "negative status". The minus can only make matters worse.
Actually, Johann Kepler (in 1610) induced his own "myopia". He did long-term work "at close" for 16 years! Then, when he checked, his refractive STATE was about -2 diopters. He expressed the opinion that this issue was "self-induced".
Well it's a good thing I get my glasses at 39DollarGlasses! At least I know my eyeglasses will be in excellent shape when I get them in just days NOT weeks like the other online eyeglass companies!
I have done extensive, and I mean EXTENSIVE research into what rehm says and I can strongly corroborate what he mentions. The bottom line is optometrists aren't ODs so they should not be allowed near anyones eyes, except perhaps their own, so I can get the pleasure of watching them suffer. If you want to save your eyesight, believe what rehm and I say for your own good, otherwise go fuck yourself.
As a martial artist I'm unable to tap my full potential because of this stupid disease. This disease has destroyed my life. If I was allowed to I would tear the spinal cord right from the necks of these optometrist scum and watch them flop around like a dead fish. Nothing would bring me more joy.
These bloody greedy optometrist fucks stole my eyesight from me before I even had a chance to spit in their face. If this was a lawless country the first people I would kill are optometrists. Rehm is a godsend, at least now I know the reason why my eyes are the way they are. Genetics my ass, stupid fucking asian optometrists. Ruined my life, should file lawsuit against FDA.
@TheIntolerantAtheist You've posted this comment in response to mine, but it in no way addresses what I said; so, I'll just repeat my statement: Post links to clinical studies that support this argument.
@TheIntolerantAtheist This is what I expect from lying, Godless liberal scumshit like you. Nobody cares about your eyes. Die asshole. You don't deserve to have eyes, Godless piece of shit. And get out of my country, we don't want you here.
@Vaughnage25 No, he expresses the second-opinion, that, if you are at 20/40, (about -3/4 diopters), you could gradually clear your distant vision by systematic use of a "preventive" plus 2 diopter lens. Pilots have done this -- so we know it can be done. But they VALUE their distant vision -- when prevention is possible.
What about astigmatism? Same thing as the elongation that occurs in myopia?
Myopia . org doesn't mention minus contact lenses. I imagine they have the same effect as minus glasses because they too force the reader to focus on the near point which causes constriction of the ciliary muscle.
Don has done great work over the last 30 years. His voice must be heard. But let me add that he is talking about the "majority-opinion" ODs. The prevention-minded ODs and MDs, are in complete agreement with Don Rehm. It is up to you to understand the SCIENCE that supports true-prevention. Otis
It called corporate interest. when i go to different countries and get my eyes examined there, they write me a totally different (weaker) prescription and when I come back - I can either see better or my sight has stayed the same. Either way - better then loosing sight every year due to stronger and stronger prescriptions.
Its true, glasses are a scam, they don't fix your vision, only create an illusion. People wake up and stop taking your children to visiting the eye doctors, they make their money by creating handicaps. Wake up, ask questions, demand answers.
What of this vid do U feel is "total crap"? At 2:05 he says "if you're over 30 then it's unlikely U can do anything to reverse shortsightedness". How shortsighted this Briton is 2 B unaware of rehabilitative exercises 4 both the eyes as well as the brain. Findings re neuroplasticity also apply 2 the eyes themselves, if anywhere else in the physical body aside from mayB the spinal cord. Eyeglasses (specs) R a scam. My eyes feel better without them on. It's weird, they sorta numb my eyes out...
I have worn distance glasses for years and this hasn't negatively effected my vision at all... They enable me to see distances and haven't harmed my eyes, so how are they a scam?
Any such crutch must be managed so it re-empowers fostering independence otherwise, in this case, eye-crutches quickly atrophies our eyes into increasing dependence. Your experience is unusual. Commonly people's eyes just get worse under such a regimen. maybe your genes are exceptional or you're wrong. I'd wager on the latter.
So you think you know my eyes better than i do? I only wear my glasses for distance work, my sight hasn't improved, or worsened. All glasses are a just a shape of glass placed in front of your eyes to refocus the light that you are receiving, back onto your retina.
I didn't really say I think you're wrong as much as statistics suggest so, then so does the nature of glasses vis-a-vis our own. Your matter-of-fact reductionist way of putting it says "well, if that's all they are...". But sir, if that's all they are then why wont you engage me on my points. Your method, intentions aside, is a common way of sidestepping debate.
I don't want to argue, or debate, anymore. They may be a scam, and they may have harmed some people's vision but they have not harmed my eyes in any way, so i dont see them as one. Maybe it's how my eyes react when I wear them, maybe it's how often i wear them or maybe im lucky in having genes that exempt me from these "consequences." But all of this aside, everyone will have their own opinions on glasses and you should act how ever you feel appropriate.
I'm wearing glasses right now. May be I just have this belief that, "but i need them 2 see". However I do feel there's something good about living within the narrower parameters my poor eyesight would keep me in. I notice how I tend 2 use them when I'm not needing 2 read anything on the blackboard ;-) & really often at other times, these days. & yes, my eyesight has not horribly diminished as a result, but it has some over the decades.Then maybe this speaks 2 the relative indomitability of life.
There not! that is what they want you to believe but in all honesty reading closes up when you are a child is not a bad thing or a good thing. at any age you tend to read where your point-of-visions is not at a set distance. myopia (nearsightedness), and hyperopia (farsightedness) are caused by defects of the retina or the lens. stop believing everything you hear this is on thing that if for sure a LIE.
For god sake can nobody use the correct words in America there spectacles not "eye glasses" and opticians not eye doctors... guttered though I'm badly short sighted
Spectacles R a scam is alliterative. Another, however small, reason 2 choose that over eyeglasses. ... I think people who want 2 get the message out these daze must pander 2 the reality that literacy is plummeting, the vernacular is narrowing & fascism does have a homogenizing influence, BTW. 2 the Lowest Common Denominator we appeal, race 2 the bottom. Cry out & they'll just think it's a roller coaster ride. But do we, can we C a renaissance on the horizon? Sparkin it is 1 thing, but how 2 keep
Draw a line -- accept personal responsibility. I truly know how difficult threshold prevention is, or is going to be. The OD/MD has AN OBLIGATION when you are at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopters) to explain the remarks by Dr. Prentice, as well as play Don's video to you. Tragically, these ODs ASSUME you are too stupid to understand a rational choice, based on science, at that point. If anything is a scam, it is ASSUMING you don't want plus prevention based on science at 20/40.
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Prentice 4 > Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost impossible to induce them to undergo the trial. [ Otis> This is truly the issue. It MUST be the person's wisdom, to accept the "tedious" use of a plus, and to do it with no let up, that would make prevention (at 20/50, -3/4 diopter) possible. THAT is the real and only issue.
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Prentice 3 > After reading in these glasses for several days, the patient was able to read print twelve inches from the eyes. In six months I changed the glasses for reading and writing to a +4 D without seeing the patient. After using the +4 D glasses for several months he again came under my care for an examination, when the left eye gave twenty-twentieths vision.
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Prentice 2> Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change for the space of two years; eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (-1.25 D is about 20/50 to 20/60 on a Snellen).
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Prentice 1> Medical people -- who have truly recognized the natural eye's behavior, and that, at least at the threshold -- IT IS PREVENTABLE. Here is the commentary by a profoundly insightful ophthalmologist. But, as Dr. Prentice states, plus prevention (at -1 diopter is tedious). But to say that "prevention will never happen" is a tragic statement -- because it prevents a preventive scientific study our effort -- that could be effective.
otissumnerbrown 3 days ago
Second-opinion> There must be some ODs who have figured out how to help their own children. Right?
Re: Judy, why don't ODs help their own children with Plus-prevention?
Judy> I'm an optometrist, I work in a group with five other optometrists, in a
city with several dozen optometrists,have a few dozen acquaintances who are
optometrists and none of us have our children use plus at near unless those
children are hyperopic.
otissumnerbrown 3 days ago
Ha! Thank you so much for talking some good simple sense at last. Interesting fact about the Eskimo study there.
Blacksquareable 1 month ago
@Blacksquareable Thanks! The scientific data is even more convincing. Prevention with the plus is indeed possible. But I gave up on ODs, and realized that prevention must start before your Snellen goes below 20/40. The ODs have a business -- and their business is to protect THEIR BUSINESS. They make no money by protecting YOUR distant vision. That is why you have no choice but to do it yourself.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
If you are a pilot at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopters) an wish to "clear" your Snellen to 20/20, then, on "Google" type, "MyopiaFree". Prevention is possible, but it does take strong motivation to do it -- as you will find from reading this site. It is all FREE, ergo, "MyopiaFree" But like preventing obesity -- it take motivation to do it.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
The Eskimo grand-parents (who did no reaing) have a positive status, and excellent distant vision. The grand children (reading at 10 inches to 3 inches -4 and -10 dioters) see their refractive state move from plus to minus -- AS A TOTALLY NATURAL PROCESS. It is not "reading" as such, but rather this terrible habit of a child. BUT, when the child is 20/40, the parents should have this CHOICE explained to them - as an "either/or" choice. The "scam" is to say NOTHING!
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Majority Opinion ODs posting here. They will claim that a minus is "perfectly safe" and has no effect on the eye. I would suggest that the person himself read the scientific data, rather than allow some OD to TELL YOU WHAT THE FACTS ARE. The SECOND-OPINION OD will tell you the facts, starting with calling the minus, "poison glasses for children". There is intense bias in these ODs -- that is not helpful.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
I'm going to blow your feeble mind with this question: if spectacles used for myopia "harm" your eyes, HOW DID YOU GET MYOPIC IN THE FIRST PLACE? You people are a fucking trip.
squelch9 4 months ago
@squelch9 You should actually READ scientific reports on the natural eye's behavior. Place a primate eye in a cage for seven years -- and it becomes negative by from -1.6 diopters to -5.8 diopters. The natural eye has this "build in" characteristic. The way to "prevent" is to use a plus to keep your "environment" in the distance. That does work, if the plus is used before they eye goes more "negative" than -3/4 diopters (about 20/40). It is not easy -- but it has been done.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown No, YOU should read scientific, peer-reviewed journal articles from PubMed, not bumfuck Pseudoscience Daily. "Plus" lenses will just simulate increased nearsightedness for someone who is already myopic. And this is a wild guess, but I think if you put a primate eye in a cage for 7 years it will rot and decompose. Just a shot in the dark, though. Educate yourself, ignoramus.
squelch9 2 months ago
@squelch9 Your a fucking retard bro. And a fucking joke. Go shoot yourself you fucking moron. What are you like 12 years old? How the hell did you even get on this video?
theendlesssuffering 1 month ago
@squelch9 Actually squelch has the feeble mind. In science you seek to find out. Just place a strong minus on the natural eye -- and the eye "moves negative". In your language, the natural eye FOLLOWS the accommodation signal. Thus BOTH long-term near, produces negative status for the natural eye. You eye 'adapt' to long-term near BECAUSE of a child's (tragic) habits. THAT is how they develop "negative status". The minus can only make matters worse.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Actually, Johann Kepler (in 1610) induced his own "myopia". He did long-term work "at close" for 16 years! Then, when he checked, his refractive STATE was about -2 diopters. He expressed the opinion that this issue was "self-induced".
otissumnerbrown 8 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 8 months ago
Well it's a good thing I get my glasses at 39DollarGlasses! At least I know my eyeglasses will be in excellent shape when I get them in just days NOT weeks like the other online eyeglass companies!
dragonspire1964 10 months ago
I have done extensive, and I mean EXTENSIVE research into what rehm says and I can strongly corroborate what he mentions. The bottom line is optometrists aren't ODs so they should not be allowed near anyones eyes, except perhaps their own, so I can get the pleasure of watching them suffer. If you want to save your eyesight, believe what rehm and I say for your own good, otherwise go fuck yourself.
theendlesssuffering 11 months ago
As a martial artist I'm unable to tap my full potential because of this stupid disease. This disease has destroyed my life. If I was allowed to I would tear the spinal cord right from the necks of these optometrist scum and watch them flop around like a dead fish. Nothing would bring me more joy.
theendlesssuffering 11 months ago
These bloody greedy optometrist fucks stole my eyesight from me before I even had a chance to spit in their face. If this was a lawless country the first people I would kill are optometrists. Rehm is a godsend, at least now I know the reason why my eyes are the way they are. Genetics my ass, stupid fucking asian optometrists. Ruined my life, should file lawsuit against FDA.
theendlesssuffering 11 months ago
Post some links to clinical studies that support your argument.
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TheIntolerantAtheist 1 year ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist You've posted this comment in response to mine, but it in no way addresses what I said; so, I'll just repeat my statement: Post links to clinical studies that support this argument.
Commando303X 1 year ago
this guy is nuts
Vaughnage25 1 year ago 14
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TheIntolerantAtheist 1 year ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist This is what I expect from lying, Godless liberal scumshit like you. Nobody cares about your eyes. Die asshole. You don't deserve to have eyes, Godless piece of shit. And get out of my country, we don't want you here.
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TheIntolerantAtheist 1 year ago
@Vaughnage25 No, he expresses the second-opinion, that, if you are at 20/40, (about -3/4 diopters), you could gradually clear your distant vision by systematic use of a "preventive" plus 2 diopter lens. Pilots have done this -- so we know it can be done. But they VALUE their distant vision -- when prevention is possible.
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What about astigmatism? Same thing as the elongation that occurs in myopia?
Myopia . org doesn't mention minus contact lenses. I imagine they have the same effect as minus glasses because they too force the reader to focus on the near point which causes constriction of the ciliary muscle.
canaan1967 1 year ago
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canaan1967 1 year ago
im gonna try this,. il post my results within a month, and hope it really help
pekas98banjo 1 year ago
Don has done great work over the last 30 years. His voice must be heard. But let me add that he is talking about the "majority-opinion" ODs. The prevention-minded ODs and MDs, are in complete agreement with Don Rehm. It is up to you to understand the SCIENCE that supports true-prevention. Otis
otissumnerbrown 2 years ago
It called corporate interest. when i go to different countries and get my eyes examined there, they write me a totally different (weaker) prescription and when I come back - I can either see better or my sight has stayed the same. Either way - better then loosing sight every year due to stronger and stronger prescriptions.
sushi123 2 years ago
So lets stop reading books =P.
Seriously scary, but I don't know who's telling the truth. Anyone can lie, and it really sucks, because I don't know who's lying. I just can't tell.
omnisquirrel 2 years ago
Its true, glasses are a scam, they don't fix your vision, only create an illusion. People wake up and stop taking your children to visiting the eye doctors, they make their money by creating handicaps. Wake up, ask questions, demand answers.
PKoAwesome 2 years ago
total crap
GingerMouseIsBack 2 years ago
What of this vid do U feel is "total crap"? At 2:05 he says "if you're over 30 then it's unlikely U can do anything to reverse shortsightedness". How shortsighted this Briton is 2 B unaware of rehabilitative exercises 4 both the eyes as well as the brain. Findings re neuroplasticity also apply 2 the eyes themselves, if anywhere else in the physical body aside from mayB the spinal cord. Eyeglasses (specs) R a scam. My eyes feel better without them on. It's weird, they sorta numb my eyes out...
reforest4fertility 2 years ago
I have worn distance glasses for years and this hasn't negatively effected my vision at all... They enable me to see distances and haven't harmed my eyes, so how are they a scam?
GingerMouseIsBack 2 years ago
Any such crutch must be managed so it re-empowers fostering independence otherwise, in this case, eye-crutches quickly atrophies our eyes into increasing dependence. Your experience is unusual. Commonly people's eyes just get worse under such a regimen. maybe your genes are exceptional or you're wrong. I'd wager on the latter.
reforest4fertility 2 years ago
So you think you know my eyes better than i do? I only wear my glasses for distance work, my sight hasn't improved, or worsened. All glasses are a just a shape of glass placed in front of your eyes to refocus the light that you are receiving, back onto your retina.
GingerMouseIsBack 2 years ago
I didn't really say I think you're wrong as much as statistics suggest so, then so does the nature of glasses vis-a-vis our own. Your matter-of-fact reductionist way of putting it says "well, if that's all they are...". But sir, if that's all they are then why wont you engage me on my points. Your method, intentions aside, is a common way of sidestepping debate.
reforest4fertility 2 years ago
I don't want to argue, or debate, anymore. They may be a scam, and they may have harmed some people's vision but they have not harmed my eyes in any way, so i dont see them as one. Maybe it's how my eyes react when I wear them, maybe it's how often i wear them or maybe im lucky in having genes that exempt me from these "consequences." But all of this aside, everyone will have their own opinions on glasses and you should act how ever you feel appropriate.
GingerMouseIsBack 2 years ago
I'm wearing glasses right now. May be I just have this belief that, "but i need them 2 see". However I do feel there's something good about living within the narrower parameters my poor eyesight would keep me in. I notice how I tend 2 use them when I'm not needing 2 read anything on the blackboard ;-) & really often at other times, these days. & yes, my eyesight has not horribly diminished as a result, but it has some over the decades.Then maybe this speaks 2 the relative indomitability of life.
reforest4fertility 2 years ago
There not! that is what they want you to believe but in all honesty reading closes up when you are a child is not a bad thing or a good thing. at any age you tend to read where your point-of-visions is not at a set distance. myopia (nearsightedness), and hyperopia (farsightedness) are caused by defects of the retina or the lens. stop believing everything you hear this is on thing that if for sure a LIE.
Driller59 2 years ago
For god sake can nobody use the correct words in America there spectacles not "eye glasses" and opticians not eye doctors... guttered though I'm badly short sighted
dark00spirit 2 years ago
Spectacles R a scam is alliterative. Another, however small, reason 2 choose that over eyeglasses. ... I think people who want 2 get the message out these daze must pander 2 the reality that literacy is plummeting, the vernacular is narrowing & fascism does have a homogenizing influence, BTW. 2 the Lowest Common Denominator we appeal, race 2 the bottom. Cry out & they'll just think it's a roller coaster ride. But do we, can we C a renaissance on the horizon? Sparkin it is 1 thing, but how 2 keep
reforest4fertility 2 years ago
actually opticians are the people who adjust the fit of your glasses, optometrists are the "eye doctors"
27dcx 2 years ago
"Mysterious" oriental characters?
Ozzah 2 years ago