Panshen Lama controversy - A Year in Tibet - BBC Travel & News

[ProudLiberal110]

There is no "controversy": China occupies Tibet & kills monks. The true Panchen Lama was kidnapped and is the world's youngest political prisoner. FREE TIBET! FREE THE PANCHEN LAMA!

[eastern2western]

invasion of tibet of inevitable because a lot of the residual nationalist forces were staying around the sichuan-tibetant area and also british india was also encroaching upon the tibetant areas. basically, invading tibet served multilple purposes such as eliminating nationalist forces, providing border between china and india (british) and many other benefits that came later on.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

China had debts from WW2.

The Western Treasure House (Tibet) was a VERY easy target.

Tibetans were more concerned with Buddhism than military technology.

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT more concerned about buddhism? ha, ha, ha, the only thing that the tibetans concerned about was inner fighting and donating their hard earned money to his dalai lama. that was the major reason that china conquered tibet with 50k troops and dalai lama was living in a castle of gold statues while his people were starving on the streets and uneducated. even dalai lama acknowledged how undeducated the tibetans were in 1959 and it was the major reason he started free schools.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

There was NO starvation in Tibet before the communists INVADED.

Mao caused STARVATION in Tibet.

Please learn some Chinese and Tibetan History from a reliable source, not CCTV etc.

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FREE China from POOR EDUCATION

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT well, I will give you something very objective and this the best period for independence is over. from 1959 to 1977, china was in complete economic ruins and dalai lama had the support of the cia, but they still could not get any where in their movements. if they can not do it when china was weak, those exiles probably have to wait for another reincarnation before there is any hope for independence.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

The Persecution of Falun Gong began in 1999.

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Falun Gong are telling the TRUTH about the @EVIL communist party to Chinese and the world.

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Support for the party is falling by the day. So the @EVIL communist party will disappear.

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT falun gong had membership of 1 billion people and support of god knows how many dollars. if those guys failed at overthrowing the communist government, do you actually believe a small number of 150,000 exiles can do it (no one knows how many tibetans in tibet support tibet independence).

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

Falun Gong got to 100 million people in 7 years from one person.

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Please check out the FG exercises at a FG practice site.

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There is a good reason why FG spread so fast. (FG is @AMAZING)

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT currently, ccp is 80 million members.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

Do you have a source for that ?

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT saw it in some bbc video. it is kind of hard to know what the real members of ccp are because a lot of people joined for the money. in reality is ccp is fragmented into different cliques and groups. they are not really united in the principle of communism.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

The chinese communist party is @extremely capitalist now.

No minimum wage says it all.

I'm not aware of a civilized country without a minimum wage.

The BBC isn't trustworthy about Tibet and presumably China as well.

Al J. is the best

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT when ccp was communist extremo, millions of people died under those policies and thousands of cultural relics perished (that was also the priod when tibet was under extreme hardship). now, it is an extreme capitalist, only the top people are living the riches while lower level citizens live like cocoroaches. however, people are not dying off crazy like mao's years. thus, which do you perfer (tibet indepence is not an option)

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

Falun Gong are being persecuted like crazy in 2011

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Just as bad as the Mao era.

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Mao didn't use @LIVE Organ Harvesting !!!

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

Get your facts right.

1. FG was 100 million

2. You don't join FG. There is NO membership.

3. FG want human rights NOT to overthrow the @EVIL CCP

Learn more about FG it is good for you

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT ha, ha, there are more than 100 million who practice falon gong because there are unknown numbers who actually pratice it. falun gong has its news paper, tv station and radio station.  if there is no huge money supporting it, they would not have so many media sources. falun gong wants democratic revolution in china which is same as over throwing ccp. please really learn about dalai lama's middle way before you open ur mouth.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

Were you educated in China ? Because it looks like it.

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FYI

Falun Gong don't accept donations from non FG people. You have plenty to say but sadly there is too much fiction.

Join the 50 cent army and get paid for your garbage, if you aren't paid already.

[eastern2western]

@HumanRightsVideosT funny little indian boy who still can not go home. fg sure has a lot of media sources for an organization that does not take donations. but it does sell books, t shirts, memorbilias etc and those things bring in more money than donations.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@eastern2western

More fiction from you.

For serious FG practitioners FG is a HUGE part of their life. So they are prepared to give heaps. If you know the horrors of China why wouldn't you ??

But you seem to think things in china are fine. Just another sad case of brainwashing.

[lukebccb]

The tibetan propagandists know full well that it didn't matter which side won the Chinese civil war and that once that civil war was won and China had a unified SINGLE government as opposed to dozens of warlord territories THAT single government was going to reestablish Central government Chinese sovereignty over the "outlying lands" of tibet, Xinjiang, etc......

But the tibetan propagandists use "communists" it is a better boogieman.

[lukebccb]

IDIOTS stating that it was the "communists" that "invaded" tibet: IDIOTS if the "nationalists" had won the Chinese civil war they would have also "invaded" tibet.

The Nationalists government "in exile" in tibet show maps of a China that include Tibet, Xinjiang, ALL OF Mongolia and Taiwan TO THIS DAY.

Once China was unified under a single government (not seen since Qing collapse in 1911) THAT government WAS going to re-establish control over ALL the "outerlands" of Tibet, Xinjiang, etc.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@lukebccb

Pear Cyclopedia was showing Tibet as a country until 1953. To see why Tibet did not become part of China during the Mongol Yuan Dynasty

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Relations Between The Dalai Lamas of Tibet and the Manchu Qing Dynasty do not show that Tibet was Part Of China

please go to

tibetjustice. org/reports/sovereignty/ independent/c/index.html (remove spaces)

[sushuh08]

The british and cia started the problem in tibet, lol western fools, FREE native indians in northern and south america, and antive in austrailia, NZ too westerner go back where u come from

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@sushuh08

Unlike the PRC everyone has rights in NZ

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

His Holiness the REAL Panchen Lama was kidnapped in 1995 at the age of 6 along with the rest of his family.

FREE H.H. the REAL Panchen Lama.

[888reventon]

The tibetans need freedom from religious fear and superstition.

[HumanRightsVideosTib]

Tibetans need freedom from the OPPRESSIVE communist party.

FREE Tibet and China.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

matthew tyh

The communists split Tibet, so they are the splittists.

[matthewtyh]

O! How the ordinary Tibetans love China-chosen Panchen Lama!!!!! Good Buddhists will believe that Buddha is real, and Living Buddha Panchen Lama is real. All else are fake. This proves that the DaLiarLama is fake, because his own Lama was no where to be seen. The Communists are smart and prove that the DaLiarLama had no power over Tibet.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

Why would Tibetans love the FAKE China-chosen Panchen Lama ???

[matthewtyh]

Tibet will have its own Lamas, free from separatist ideology coming out of Dharamsalam where the Separatist_Head_Lama, also called the DaLiarLama, sits on his throne. This is good for Tibet, to prevent future separatist wars. The whole world should support China coming down hard on separatists. Arrest those protesting separatist elements and put them in prisons. Prevent future war, like what you see in Kashmir, Sri Lanka, Mindanao, Aceh, Cheynia, Southern Thailand, Kosova, Somalia, etcetc.etc

[HumanRightsVideosTib]

The communists started the problems in Tibet by invading INDEPENDENT Tibet in 1949.

Nearly 60 years of disasters have followed.

[lukebccb]

@HumanRightsVideosTib: China was going to "invade" tibet no matter what once the Chinese civil war would determine who would be the victor to run a unified China. It happened to be the communists but if it had been the nationalists Chinese who won the civil war they would have GUARANTEED sent their troops into tibet after their victory.

Nationalists maps in Taiwan shows a China that includes tibet, Xinjiang ALL OF Mongolla and Taiwan.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@lukebccb

Pears Cyclopedia was publishing maps showing Tibet until 1953.

[matthewtyh]

In 1949 the Chinese KMT chose the Panchen Lama, while Lhasa local government had their own candidate. The DaLiarLama was a child who knew nuts. The Communists then took over, and the DaLiarLama became head of government of Tibet. The DaLiarLama had no choice but to support the Panchen Lama chosen by the Chinese in 1950. BBC fails history test. From 1880 to 1885, five successive DaLiarLamas failed to live to become adults. How could they effectively choose the right Panchen Lama? History!

[HumanRightsVideosT]

Do you know who HH is ???

[matthewtyh]

Dalai Lama picked a fake Panchen Lama and told the whole world that the CCP arrested him. Silly! Why on earth would any government want to arrest a six-year-old boy? Wake up! Even the Dalai Lama was legitimated first by the Chinese government in 1940.  Every Dalai Lama of every age needed to be confirmed by Chinese gpvernment. Only those under the spell of the current Dalai Lama refuse to acknowledge this history.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

His Holiness the Dalai Lama chose the REAL Panchen Lama.

Do you know anything about Tibet ???

[blackdemonllama]

The TRUE Panchen Lama is Gedhun Choekyi Nyima. Pathetic, BBC, shame on you for falling for this propaganda from the PRC government.

[tonyhe78]

shame on you for falling for this propaganda from the Da-liar lama.

You stupid m* fu*ker can represent nobody. Everybody can see people love the TRUE Panchen Lama in this video.

You bunch of losers!

[blackdemonllama]

Wow, calling me a motherf*cker was really enlightened of you. Thank you for showing your true nature. I feel sorry for people like you.

[Lukeypoos001]

you could learn more on Wikipedia search for Gedhun Choekyi Nyima.

Appalling documentary, and the BBC can't spell it' Panchen Lama

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Some of the BBC reporters seem to be fooled by chinese propaganda, especially in youtube videos about Tibet.

Maybe CNN is not fooled by chinese propaganda and perhaps that is why CNN is not liked by the chinese communist party.

[corcoos]

@mingersai

And what is the other aspect?

[gluvuv]

我的好朋友在纽约遭到种族歧视.我们给美国人权部写了好几封上告­ 信,10个月都没人回.随后人权部把这些通回他的工作单位.美国­老板马上就把他开了.人权部然后耍个花招也把他打发了.我们给非­政府人权组织打电话,没有一个理的.这些跳梁小丑都是反华势力雇­的,专门诽谤 中国的.什么西方尊重人权，放屁.

[Celticevans]

因为在海外的中国人利用自由压制自由的事例太多太多了

你明白 我在说什么吗?

[gluvuv]

cel，美国没有自由就是没有自由。美国诋毁中国。就这么简单。­基督教仇视中华民族。

[mingersai]

This show is only a aspect of the fact with a narrow view

[Lukeypoos001]

Gedhun Choekyi Nyima, the was arrested with his family in 1995, he was 6 at the time so he's now about 19.

Nobody knows what has happened to him.

[tonyhe78]

Then how do you know this? You think you are god? Loser!

[HumanRightsVideosT]

The chances are even wikipedia will have information about the Panchen Lama.

[troblodite]

Does anyone know who was the one that was chosen by the Dali Lama, or what happenedto him.

[Lukeypoos001]

Gedhun Choekyi Nyima was chosen by the Dalai Lama, the was arrested with his family in 1995, he was 6 at the time so he's now about 19.

Nobody knows what has happened to him.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Determined to control religion in Tibet, the Chinese authorities kidnapped him and his family on May 17, 1995 just days after he was recognised as the 11th Panchen Lama.

[jmlee369]

For those watching, if you look at the people getting blessings, they are putting the scarves around their necks themselves, rather than having the lama or a representative put it around them which is strange.