what a liar this man is. Islam is a package deal, you take it all or take nothing. a light beating of the wife is permissible in Islam as a last resort. the beating must not leave a mark, not be in sensitive areas and not on the face. this is agreed upon by all four madhabs, it is in the classical tafsirs and in the hadith. i for one REFUSE to liberalise Islam to please the west and western influenced muslims as this sellout suck up does.
@sufideceiver I can tell by both your username and your attitude that you are a misguided Wahhabi who seeks a license to beat women.out of some, obvious gender inadequacy. You are what is wrong with the Muslims today.
@TheGnosticReality, yes and i can tell from your username you are another ignoramus westernised sufi, who twists Islam around your own desires and sensiblities because you suffer from an inferiority complex and an identity crisis. i merely report what i see in the Quran, tafsirs and books of hadith, i am not a hypocrite, i dont try and twist Islam, i have full faith. when we say beating we mean a very light one with a miswaak as a final resort, not a full battering as the kafirs do when drunk.
@sufideceiver Oh, so you know of sahih accounts whereas the Prophet (s) beat his wives and condoned spousal abuse! Nice. I'm sorry for ever having doubted you, O Master Kharjite.
@TheGnosticgit, read Quran 4:34, read the classical tafsirs on this iyat, read the classical books of Islamic law such as reliance of the traveller, translated by your fellow SUFI nuh ha mim keller (i suppose he is a kharijite now too), read the hadith in sunan abu dawud giving the rules on how to do it by the Prophet Muhammad saws. A light whack with a toothbrush is not a big deal gnosticgit, we are not asking for the right to batter a wife which is clearly haraam and a grounds for divorce.
@sufideceiver Shaykh Hamza stated nothing different, yet you called him a liar, and to vilify the ulama of this Umma is strictly proscribed. His exegesis is wholly in line with Tafseer and ahkam, including those found in Umatus Salik. And derogating the Ahl at-Turuq is a kin to kufr, as all of the classical scholars of this Deen subscribed thereto. Fear Allah.
@TheGnosticReality, yes thank you, so you do deal with evidence from Quran and Hadith every now and again. please practice what you preach, you started the ad hominem and insults first by saying i had a gender inadequacy, lol. now after i have insulted you back you have the cheek to post a hadith on good manners. secondly i am sure this hadith refers to arguing for trivial matters, not arguing when someone lies about the deen. the deen must always be defended.
@manz125 = "The kindest to his own wife". You mean, by beating her SOFTLY, instead of beating her until she gets hospitalized, is 'the kindest act' ever?
How blind you are in your hatred, so full of hate. You interpret the word "kind" as if it means to "hurt". There are a Muslims out there too who interpret the Qu'ran and Hadith, like you, in the most extreme. So you can certainly find favorable company among the likes of the Taliban, because they just like you believe that the Qu'ran is telling them to beat their wives.
The majority of 1.5 billion Muslims don't agree with you nor the Taliban.
@manz125 = ME? blind and full of hate? SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
You gave up on me don't u? U don't know what to say anymore and u replied to irritate someone. What a dumb thing to accusse someone whom u clearly not know.
Listen, u misunderstood me perfectly, mr.muslim guy. Im not with Taliban or Syia, it's u.
I think your egocentric, narcisstic nature is what is wrong here.
I never judged your Prophet as evil, I studied his Hadiths, yeah, he's awesome.
@countessdanielle666 You are blind and full of hate because you cannot believe that there can be a MODERATE interpretation of Islam. You think that "being kind to your wife" is secret code for beating her to death. That is called being blind and being a bigot.
Yes, I did give up on a bigot like you. You'll find friends among your Taliban buddies who are too bigots, just like you.
@countessdanielle666 = Stop replying to me or ever commented on me again. There's no use talking to a person who is judgmental towards other's comments which had nothing to do with him and that he's trying to perceive his intelligence but failed.
DON'T EVER REPLY TO ME AGAIN, I CAN'T BLOCK YOU IN COMMENTS, If you still do, you're harrassing my privacy & I'll make sure you'll get what you deserved.
@manz125 = I'm saying what the above commentator tried to say.What it says is accurately possible. Read lemon3011's comment made a point there except I think otherwise. It's impossible that the noble Quran was miscontrued / mistranslated / misinterpreted / misunderstood. But is POSSIBLE that the Hadith was falsified or changed into different versions. I beg to disagree that the noble Prophet of God allows such act even to discipline women, domestically. Hadiths had many versions.
Islamic verses are being misconstrued & Islamic clerics speaking in candor r being maliciously edited 2 demonize Islam & make it appear barbaric.
I have uploaded my 1st video: Im defending Islam not because i'm blinded by loyalty, but because even if I weren't born Muslim I still wud have chosen it coz it appeals 2 innate human morality in all mankind
@countessdanielle666 Since you have obviously an expert on Islamic Law and history, maybe I should ask you, Did the scripture say it is a 'must' for all husbands to beat their wives?
On the contrary, it has been 'commanded' by the Prophet that "the best of the believers is the one who is best in manners and kindest to his own wife".
Every Imam is doing his interpretation of the holy Qu'oran . Soon the Muslims will be dinosaurs like the Christians because there is no Christian who is following the peace and wisdom of the bible .
IGNORANT PEOPLE CAN DO DAMAGE! there is a lecture on youtube by a known Imam! whoever raises his hand to hit his wife is as if he raised his and to jahanum(hellfire)! the Prophet Muhammed salalahualyhewassalum never hit any female! there are idiots who dont know Arabic and misinterpret text! the text doesnt mean "Beat"! LEARN ARABIC, any guy who hits a female is NO MAN at all. there is a difference beween a "male" and a "man"
So we should beat our wives? We should instil fear in the hearts of our wives in their homes? Is that what you preach? You must be one of those "salafi" fanatics. A man in Islam has a right to tell his wife to do things, but the right is also attributed to a person who has kindness and GOOD CHARACTER. Therefore a believing Muslim man will find excuses upon excuses to NEVER hit his wife or child.
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, may Allah take him from strength to Strength :)
@MrGrandDragon You are quick to judge... If you read my comment then not once did i say anything about wife beating in Islam. I have memorised the verse as well as its tafseer so i know the reality about wife beating in Islam.
All i said was stay away from the Sufi Queen hamza Yusuf.... he has some clear teachings against the Quran and Sunnah...
I you follow such a true brand of Islam u wud see that...
Yes you are a "Salafi" yet you are a Muslim also. The only reason I made mention of me being a hanafi is because I need to be more specific as we are both still Muslims.
Yes I am a Normal Muslim who follows the fiqh of the school of Imam Abu Hanifa who was part of the Salaf. I follow the Sunnah of our beloved prophet, or try my best to do so with the hopes of attaining Allah' pleasure. Everyone has a teacher to help them understand the kalam and its applications ones self.
@MrGrandDragon imam abu hanifa we respect him he is a greate scholar but you do no that not all hadiths of the prophet (saws) reached him so that why we have to accept other hadiths which are sahih and thats a normal muslim u must accept all sahih hadiths jzk allah khier
Have you seen his videos where he teaches Islam to other teachers? He is teaching using sound methods and his Fiqh is very traditional and not deviant at all. When it comes to his Tafseer he quotes traditional scholars who's books have been regarded as valuable amongst the scholars of Islam.
I understand you take more favour for reformist scholars such as ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ibn Baaz, Albani (RA) and so on..
I have no opinion on that because I am not a Scholar.
@MrGrandDragon Look... the problem is most scholars have a large following, so any faults in their belief need to be addressed.. it is Kufr by ijma'a (concensus) to rule by other than the Shari'ah, Allah's law... Hamza Yusuf is quite clear in his belief that Democracy is the way forward for muslims.
@kuitta10 ... and i never really got much into that. BTW, this was rare time i am wrong about ayats. I can't remember last time i was wrong. So "hit" is ok, but not when she refuses intercourse for no reason, as i thought. Yet, i still, think there might be something, in the Qur'an that says about refusel of sex and hitting, but, i am much less confident now. You were correct, may Allah forgive me. And bless you, little man. Amin, Selam
@kuitta10 As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) leave them alone in beds (and last) beat or separate them (from you). surat IV ayat 34. THIS IS THE ONE I THOUGHT OF. IT SAYS TO BEAT SOME TRANSLATION SAY "TO HIT", AND I BELIEVE IS "TO HIT" AS WELL, BECAUSE MY GOOD SOURCES TELL ME "TO HIT" IS THE TRANSLATION. Now, i was right about, one can "hit" a woman part, but i was wrong to why! May Allah forgive me, as i am not married yet...
Also, you can't degrade someone or render their arguments useless based on their age. Some muslims learned the Quran at the age of 4. Others only know a few verses at the age of 40...
@Dy699 AGE MATTERS HUGELY! WHEN YOU 19, ON AVERGAE YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING! UNLESS YOU SOME GENIOUS! BUT THEN WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT YOU. BTW KNOWING VERSES IS ONLY FOR TOP NOTCH MUSLISM, TOP IMAMS, SO, THAT'S IRRELEVANT REALLY. BUT WAIT, YOU'RE TRYING TO INSLUT PEOPLE WITH THAT STATEMENT IT SEEMS. BE CAREFUL, PASSIVE AGRESSIVNES IS JUST AS HARAM !!
@Dy699 Roughly, if you at age 40 and you pray and read Qur'an here and there and fast during Ramadan, you fall into top 10% of muslims world-wide. So, remembering verses is only for the, like i said, top Imam's worldwide.Don't be smart! YOUR PASSIVE AGRESSIVNES WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL-FIRE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOUNG LADY!
Dont be a like sheep. Why do you want to imitate and be like the crowd when you know the crowd is falling in a sinking ship? Should you not try harder to READ the Qur'an? LEARN Arabic? Pray 5 times a day?
Have intention and be optimistic. Happy Muslim is a Practising Muslim.
@Dy699 Also, there is NO DEBATING in Islam. If i say one thing twice, that means, that's what i think it is. AND THE OTHER PARTY HAS TO LET IT BE! IT DOESNT MATTER WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG. THAT'S HOW YOU AVOID CONFLICT. NO ARGUMENTS OR DEBATES IN ISLAM. THAT'S DEVILISH.
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR, BUT YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO AND YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL!!! YOU'RE NOT WELL EDUCATED YET, YOU DIDNT TRAVEL YOU DIDNT SEE SHIT, YOU ARE TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME. YOU RE ONLY 19!!! NOTHING TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS THAT YOU KNOW IT ALL. FAIL BAD!! YOU CANT JUST CLAIM, WITHOUT NEEDED BACK-UP. JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE. WOW
@kuitta10 Btw, i am done with this here. I have other more important things to do. Peace be upon you. May the Almighty watch on you at all times. Amin.
@kuitta10 You dislike the Imam, you dislike my answers. Your problem is that you think you know it all. But, in reality, you don't. You need to learn a lot. You're still young though. I give you credit for that. Knowledge wise i can be your father and age wise almost too, so. 10 years is a lot, son. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME YOUNG MAN. THIS IS ABOUT YOU. YOU NEED TO LEARN A LOT STILL.
@kuitta10 JUST BEING DEVILISH PERSISTANT. THAT'S NOT GOOD YOUNG MAN. PLUS, DONT CALL ME "BRO" OR "MAN", I CAN BE YOUR FATHER. I CAN GET YOU HELP, YOU JUST DONT WANT TO LISTEN. I TOLD YOU IS IN QUR'AN. NOW you re aware and go look for it yourself. BUT, DONT EXPECT FROM ME TO GIVE YOU EXACT VERSE. Especially, on this "minor" issue. HAHA ONLY HANDFULL MUSLIMS CAN GIVE YOU EXACT VERSE. THAT'S 1/100 OF HUMAN POPULATION. if you blame me not to be that at 29, i am fine with that.
@kuitta10 YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING !! You're 19 and telling a Imam that he has no UNDERSTANDING. You don't even have knowledge, and your understanding is equal ZERO. Just get help. I told you in first sentence, that i don't know the verse exactly in Qur'an, not many Muslims know Qur'an from a to z, inshallah maybe one day i know too. BUT I TOLD YOU IN FIRST SENTENCE I DONT HAVE IT EXACT VERSE AND I TOLD YOU I WILL NOT LOOK FOR YOU, BUT YOU INSISTING FOR HOURS AND HOURS.
@kuitta10 Just ask your Imam, son! You ask me here for days and want me to find it for you, but you won't ask your imam>>?! What's that all about. You just steal peopel time or what! wow. I am trying to help you, but you just seem to take my time, i have feeling.
@kuitta10 DONT WAIT FOR IT. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS CLEAR AS TEAR DROP. I WILL NOT REVIEW VERSA THAT I KNOW FOR SURE. I RECOMMEND YOU GO LOOK FOR IT INSTEAD.
@kuitta10 But don't take my word for it. I WILL ABSOLUTLY NOT GO AND LOOK FOR IT. I said to you yesterday. Only if i come across and if i remember you. I know for sure, it's in there, just not exact verse. BETTER YOU GO LOOK FOR IT! I KNOW IT ALREADY YOU DONT. Selam.
@kuitta10 Well, you are wrong about the "hitting" matter. And you were not clera about the "sinner" matter, that's why i replied as i did. You have to be more clear.
@kuitta10 You're absolutly wrong here. If she denies intercourse, for no reason. Man can hit, is not haram. There is exact verse. I will find it and post it. I will now stop talking about this. I have to leave. Prayer is calling, i am already late.
@kuitta10 I agree. Wives are very very crucial in Islam. Very important. And you're correct about your prophet saying. I agree. Yes, all that is true, BUT THERE IS EXCEPTION FOR DENIAL OF Intercourse, for no reason. A man can hit a wife then. Is allowed.
@kuitta10 Inshallah. Of course, but someone with education, is generally above the average individual. I know you believe everyword, but for all of us, except highly educated Imam's it is difficult to make evey word as order. No matter how hard we try. That's what i meant. You're no angel, akhi. It is impossible, but you know now what i meant.
Inshallah, more wisdom and knowledge. Always looking for more knowledge is our duty. But, you know that, that's good mashallah. Selam.
@kuitta10 If you were in your at least mid 20's and educated, i d say you can read on your own, and have little questions. But, otherwise, you re to get help. Unless you're really really smart. One in thousand.
@kuitta10 Ali was EXCEPTION! Most Imam's 30+ are not exceptions, it's the norm. You can't compare that. Ali was GENIUS! One in a million. It is possible, but you have to be true to yourself. Because if you're not, you ll fall behind, for no reason. Just make sure you know what you doing.
@kuitta10 And continue reading on your own, that's even more encouraged, but get help because you might make mistakes, because you're not ready yet, from what i understand. There is good Imam's. Most are really good. You just have to listen to them. Read, and then look for clarification from someone. Yes, Ali was only 16, but how many Ali's were there>>? And most Imam's through history were 30+... You can't say one person did it that young, and take that as the average.
@kuitta10 Sorry, for getting a bit upset at you, little man. I apologize. Now, i was NOT WRONG. You didn't show me anything. In fact, you had a lot of things confused. And the main issue, "hitting wife", you had it wrong. They don't confuse culture and Islam. Just believe them. Some are wrong, of course, nobody is perfect, but they're correct. They know more than any of your proffesors, probably. Just listen. Of course, yoiu shall read and on your own, but you're not ready yet to make decisions.
@kuitta10 Traveling is important, bro. You ll gain the idea from what you read. It all makes more sense. For example, Qur'an says, "travel and see, how the disbelivers live in pain", and it's something you see with your own eyes, bro. You hust have to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD! It makes all sense EVERY WORD. When you travel, you relaize that. But, yes, you're somewhat right. It's not THAT important, but is a big plus. Just believe me. Of course, bro. You have to love your brothers and sister,bro
@kuitta10 Little brother, this is not about me, son. Like i said, i traveled the world, i ve done it all even before i got my education. And still gained knowledge while educating myself by working while studying. In fact, id say i have more knowledge than even education. And i read the Qur'an everyday for past five, six years. THTA'S your knowledge, little brother. It's normal for you and i, maybe, brother. But 90% of people don't do that. You know that, i am not sure why you bring that up.
@kuitta10 Bro, i know that. but' you dont. That what i am trying to tell you. i pray five times a day, i read Qur'an everyday, i read Qur'an for past six years. I am very well educated, i ve traveled all over the world. I dont need, very rarely, any help from iMma's bro. Bu, you're not ready to do that. You dont have what i have, you just don't want to listen bro.
@kuitta10 I am very well educated, i ve seen the world and my intelligence and knowledge is pretty high, therefore. I can go ahead read and make decisions. YOU NEED TO FIRST GO THROUGH THE LEARNING PROCESS, THEN YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS YOURSELF. READ, LISTEN, EDUCATE, SEE THE WORLD, AND THEN YOU CAN READ AND MAKE OWN DECISIONS. UNTIL THEN LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE ME OR BETTER LOCAL IMAMS BROTHER! BECAUSE GENERAL PUBLIC DONT HAVE THE TIME TO LECTURE YOU. IMAMS DO.
@kuitta10 THERE IS NO ARGUMENTS ABOUT ISLAMIC MATTER BETWEEN TWO PARTIES. IF WE DISAGREE, WE GO OUR WAYS. SEARCHING AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH IS DIFFERENT AND IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE>>?! I GUESS NOT. WOW!
@ByChoiceMuslim It's in Qur'an. Don't ask me for exact surat and verse. I don't know the Qur'an in my head. However, i read it a number of times. I read it almost everyday. But, i will try to find it and tell you, if i get time and don't forget. Or look it up yourself. Peace be upon you.
@chaosbringer127 I said what i said. No arguing in Islam. You shall know this. Are you Muslim>>? If you unsure/not confident about some thing, see Imam.
When the wife denies the man his right to have sexual intercourse with her, then that wife is cursed by the angels through the night for denying one of her obligations towards her husband, as per the Nikkah... That is not to say the man can demand sexual intercourse whenever he feels the need, No rather the husband should not treat her wife unkindly so it works BOTH ways. The point is the wife should understand the limits that marriage imposes on the man...
Aayat 4:34 is a literal structural identity of the inseparable human duality (Zawj). A prophet and his wife embody it. All Allaah’s prophets are male as the physical boundary (oneness / justice) of the law of the creation/existence/nature/society. The actions within the boundary are the feminine part of the masculine boundary (the owner & the head). To rise against a prophet is to emotionally disconnect from Allaah and take the path of self-destruction like Fir’awn in contrast to his wife.
لا ضرورة لهذا التكلف واللفلفة والسفسطة يا حمزة فالقرآن ليس كلام إله عليم وحكيم وإنما كلام انسان من القرن السابع فان ضرب الزوجة غير مقبول أبدا ولو كان ضربا طفيفا ومهما كانت الظروف ، انت عارف هذا فدعني من هذا القيل والقال!
Asalam..thank you so much for this video; when I read the verse in english that says to beat your wife, I was very confused and fearful, but this lecture helped me understand and put things in a clearer, better perspective...thank you so much, if only the non-believers would understand and not wrongfully believe Islam is evil because of these few controversial verses/ sayings...
Well if you don't take what your religion says literally just because it suits you not to, what do you think God will say when you are questioned on the Day of Judgement?
@eviilhomerr i'm sure he will say "great job Allie for not taking it literally! so happy you didn't let religion rule your life and you had religion of the heart not from a book a MAN wrote thousands of years ago!" i'm sure he will say that, pretty positive. why? because God can not be measured by a book, he is greater than we give him credit for. i wants us to follow our hearts and do good to others. to not judge, to love and treat each other fairly. that's what he wants!
Off topic... but I would just like one muslim to justify the hanging of homosexuals.
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TheGnosticReality 2 months ago
what a liar this man is. Islam is a package deal, you take it all or take nothing. a light beating of the wife is permissible in Islam as a last resort. the beating must not leave a mark, not be in sensitive areas and not on the face. this is agreed upon by all four madhabs, it is in the classical tafsirs and in the hadith. i for one REFUSE to liberalise Islam to please the west and western influenced muslims as this sellout suck up does.
sufideceiver 2 months ago
@sufideceiver Another one who doesn't know what he is talking about
ByChoiceMuslim 2 months ago
@sufideceiver I can tell by both your username and your attitude that you are a misguided Wahhabi who seeks a license to beat women.out of some, obvious gender inadequacy. You are what is wrong with the Muslims today.
TheGnosticReality 2 months ago
@TheGnosticReality, yes and i can tell from your username you are another ignoramus westernised sufi, who twists Islam around your own desires and sensiblities because you suffer from an inferiority complex and an identity crisis. i merely report what i see in the Quran, tafsirs and books of hadith, i am not a hypocrite, i dont try and twist Islam, i have full faith. when we say beating we mean a very light one with a miswaak as a final resort, not a full battering as the kafirs do when drunk.
sufideceiver 2 months ago
@sufideceiver Oh, so you know of sahih accounts whereas the Prophet (s) beat his wives and condoned spousal abuse! Nice. I'm sorry for ever having doubted you, O Master Kharjite.
TheGnosticReality 2 months ago
@TheGnosticgit, read Quran 4:34, read the classical tafsirs on this iyat, read the classical books of Islamic law such as reliance of the traveller, translated by your fellow SUFI nuh ha mim keller (i suppose he is a kharijite now too), read the hadith in sunan abu dawud giving the rules on how to do it by the Prophet Muhammad saws. A light whack with a toothbrush is not a big deal gnosticgit, we are not asking for the right to batter a wife which is clearly haraam and a grounds for divorce.
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@sufideceiver Shaykh Hamza stated nothing different, yet you called him a liar, and to vilify the ulama of this Umma is strictly proscribed. His exegesis is wholly in line with Tafseer and ahkam, including those found in Umatus Salik. And derogating the Ahl at-Turuq is a kin to kufr, as all of the classical scholars of this Deen subscribed thereto. Fear Allah.
TheGnosticReality 2 months ago
@sufideceiver Abu Umamah Al-Bahili (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said,
"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a home in the
middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah
for one who has good manners.''[Abu Dawud].
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@TheGnosticReality, yes thank you, so you do deal with evidence from Quran and Hadith every now and again. please practice what you preach, you started the ad hominem and insults first by saying i had a gender inadequacy, lol. now after i have insulted you back you have the cheek to post a hadith on good manners. secondly i am sure this hadith refers to arguing for trivial matters, not arguing when someone lies about the deen. the deen must always be defended.
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@sufideceiver "i am sure this hadith refers to arguing for trivial matters". Conjecture... haraam.
TheGnosticReality 2 months ago
@sufideceiver i support your last statement
mrhan88 2 months ago
@sufideceiver
ASA
Go tell that to his face; I am sure you will get a fitting answer.
mohammabdulrehman 2 months ago
@mohammabdulrehman, well i might make him cry, but i doubt this wimpy sufi will be able to do much more then that.
sufideceiver 2 months ago
@manz125 = "The kindest to his own wife". You mean, by beating her SOFTLY, instead of beating her until she gets hospitalized, is 'the kindest act' ever?
How naive. You're so naive.
The 'kind' word itself portrays a 1000 meanings.
countessdanielle666 2 months ago
@countessdanielle666
How blind you are in your hatred, so full of hate. You interpret the word "kind" as if it means to "hurt". There are a Muslims out there too who interpret the Qu'ran and Hadith, like you, in the most extreme. So you can certainly find favorable company among the likes of the Taliban, because they just like you believe that the Qu'ran is telling them to beat their wives.
The majority of 1.5 billion Muslims don't agree with you nor the Taliban.
manz125 2 months ago
@manz125 = ME? blind and full of hate? SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
You gave up on me don't u? U don't know what to say anymore and u replied to irritate someone. What a dumb thing to accusse someone whom u clearly not know.
Listen, u misunderstood me perfectly, mr.muslim guy. Im not with Taliban or Syia, it's u.
I think your egocentric, narcisstic nature is what is wrong here.
I never judged your Prophet as evil, I studied his Hadiths, yeah, he's awesome.
He won his batles & everything.
countessdanielle666 2 months ago
@countessdanielle666 You are blind and full of hate because you cannot believe that there can be a MODERATE interpretation of Islam. You think that "being kind to your wife" is secret code for beating her to death. That is called being blind and being a bigot.
Yes, I did give up on a bigot like you. You'll find friends among your Taliban buddies who are too bigots, just like you.
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@manz125 = You misunderstood my comment or there's something wrong with your English comprehension skills?
I SAID THE HADITHS WERE PRONED TO CHANGES. DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
I NEVER SAID THE QURAN WAS WRONG IN TRANSLATION, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
I NEVER BOMB HOUSES OR VIOLATE KIDS, HOW AM I A TALIBAN, MISTER?
AND I NEVER SUBMIT MYSELF TO BE SACRIFICED, HOW AM I A TALIBAN, MISTER? I NEVER SUPPORT VIOLENCE IN MY LIFE, HOW AM I A F-ING EXTREMIST, MISTER?
YOU THINK U'RE SUCH AN ANGEL.
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@countessdanielle666 = Stop replying to me or ever commented on me again. There's no use talking to a person who is judgmental towards other's comments which had nothing to do with him and that he's trying to perceive his intelligence but failed.
DON'T EVER REPLY TO ME AGAIN, I CAN'T BLOCK YOU IN COMMENTS, If you still do, you're harrassing my privacy & I'll make sure you'll get what you deserved.
End of discussion
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@manz125 = I'm saying what the above commentator tried to say.What it says is accurately possible. Read lemon3011's comment made a point there except I think otherwise. It's impossible that the noble Quran was miscontrued / mistranslated / misinterpreted / misunderstood. But is POSSIBLE that the Hadith was falsified or changed into different versions. I beg to disagree that the noble Prophet of God allows such act even to discipline women, domestically. Hadiths had many versions.
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countessdanielle666 2 months ago
Islam commands men to BEAT their women? That's evil.
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is it ok to beat your wife if see likes it
kennethh70 5 months ago
Islamic verses are being misconstrued & Islamic clerics speaking in candor r being maliciously edited 2 demonize Islam & make it appear barbaric.
I have uploaded my 1st video: Im defending Islam not because i'm blinded by loyalty, but because even if I weren't born Muslim I still wud have chosen it coz it appeals 2 innate human morality in all mankind
Peace
Dignity1400 6 months ago
baraka allah fik and i hope if you will have sometimes to add writing to the video
soufi91 6 months ago
the problem is that unfortunately most people get some of the quran and explain it as they want. the real man wont beat a women.
haydi840 6 months ago
Beating your wife is not allowed in Islam. IF you beat your wife you will burn in Hell.
manz125 6 months ago
@manz125 = But I saw in one of your scripture (Sura An-Nisaa). Allah did allow husbands to beat their wives.
How's that?
countessdanielle666 2 months ago
@countessdanielle666 Since you have obviously an expert on Islamic Law and history, maybe I should ask you, Did the scripture say it is a 'must' for all husbands to beat their wives?
On the contrary, it has been 'commanded' by the Prophet that "the best of the believers is the one who is best in manners and kindest to his own wife".
manz125 2 months ago
@manz125 = But because the Prophet said that, all Muslim men followed.
There were no options given, only GUIDANCE.
countessdanielle666 2 months ago
Every Imam is doing his interpretation of the holy Qu'oran . Soon the Muslims will be dinosaurs like the Christians because there is no Christian who is following the peace and wisdom of the bible .
strongfoot2009 6 months ago
IGNORANT PEOPLE CAN DO DAMAGE! there is a lecture on youtube by a known Imam! whoever raises his hand to hit his wife is as if he raised his and to jahanum(hellfire)! the Prophet Muhammed salalahualyhewassalum never hit any female! there are idiots who dont know Arabic and misinterpret text! the text doesnt mean "Beat"! LEARN ARABIC, any guy who hits a female is NO MAN at all. there is a difference beween a "male" and a "man"
LadyInRedNY 6 months ago 9
hamza yousif is a dodgey guy how can yous beleive him?
omarshakeer1 7 months ago
Don't listen to this sufi queen....
He believes in Democracy and Wahdaul Wajood..
May Allah guide us All...
ameen
Hamza120994 7 months ago
@Hamza120994
So we should beat our wives? We should instil fear in the hearts of our wives in their homes? Is that what you preach? You must be one of those "salafi" fanatics. A man in Islam has a right to tell his wife to do things, but the right is also attributed to a person who has kindness and GOOD CHARACTER. Therefore a believing Muslim man will find excuses upon excuses to NEVER hit his wife or child.
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, may Allah take him from strength to Strength :)
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
@MrGrandDragon You are quick to judge... If you read my comment then not once did i say anything about wife beating in Islam. I have memorised the verse as well as its tafseer so i know the reality about wife beating in Islam.
All i said was stay away from the Sufi Queen hamza Yusuf.... he has some clear teachings against the Quran and Sunnah...
I you follow such a true brand of Islam u wud see that...
Hamza120994 7 months ago
@Hamza120994
I am not a Sufi and nor is Hamza Yusuf. Tasawuf is part of Traditional Islam. I am a normal Muslim who follows the Hanafi Fiqh.
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
@MrGrandDragon a normal muslim is some 1 who follows quran and sunnah
omarshakeer1 7 months ago
@omarshakeer1
Yes you are a "Salafi" yet you are a Muslim also. The only reason I made mention of me being a hanafi is because I need to be more specific as we are both still Muslims.
Yes I am a Normal Muslim who follows the fiqh of the school of Imam Abu Hanifa who was part of the Salaf. I follow the Sunnah of our beloved prophet, or try my best to do so with the hopes of attaining Allah' pleasure. Everyone has a teacher to help them understand the kalam and its applications ones self.
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
@MrGrandDragon imam abu hanifa we respect him he is a greate scholar but you do no that not all hadiths of the prophet (saws) reached him so that why we have to accept other hadiths which are sahih and thats a normal muslim u must accept all sahih hadiths jzk allah khier
omarshakeer1 7 months ago
@Hamza120994
Have you seen his videos where he teaches Islam to other teachers? He is teaching using sound methods and his Fiqh is very traditional and not deviant at all. When it comes to his Tafseer he quotes traditional scholars who's books have been regarded as valuable amongst the scholars of Islam.
I understand you take more favour for reformist scholars such as ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Ibn Baaz, Albani (RA) and so on..
I have no opinion on that because I am not a Scholar.
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
@MrGrandDragon Look... the problem is most scholars have a large following, so any faults in their belief need to be addressed.. it is Kufr by ijma'a (concensus) to rule by other than the Shari'ah, Allah's law... Hamza Yusuf is quite clear in his belief that Democracy is the way forward for muslims.
Hamza120994 7 months ago
you wouldn't find them best of us...who beats his wife
shamatroot 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Keep up the good work, little man.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 ... and i never really got much into that. BTW, this was rare time i am wrong about ayats. I can't remember last time i was wrong. So "hit" is ok, but not when she refuses intercourse for no reason, as i thought. Yet, i still, think there might be something, in the Qur'an that says about refusel of sex and hitting, but, i am much less confident now. You were correct, may Allah forgive me. And bless you, little man. Amin, Selam
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) leave them alone in beds (and last) beat or separate them (from you). surat IV ayat 34. THIS IS THE ONE I THOUGHT OF. IT SAYS TO BEAT SOME TRANSLATION SAY "TO HIT", AND I BELIEVE IS "TO HIT" AS WELL, BECAUSE MY GOOD SOURCES TELL ME "TO HIT" IS THE TRANSLATION. Now, i was right about, one can "hit" a woman part, but i was wrong to why! May Allah forgive me, as i am not married yet...
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
Also, you can't degrade someone or render their arguments useless based on their age. Some muslims learned the Quran at the age of 4. Others only know a few verses at the age of 40...
Dy699 7 months ago
@Dy699 AGE MATTERS HUGELY! WHEN YOU 19, ON AVERGAE YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING! UNLESS YOU SOME GENIOUS! BUT THEN WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT YOU. BTW KNOWING VERSES IS ONLY FOR TOP NOTCH MUSLISM, TOP IMAMS, SO, THAT'S IRRELEVANT REALLY. BUT WAIT, YOU'RE TRYING TO INSLUT PEOPLE WITH THAT STATEMENT IT SEEMS. BE CAREFUL, PASSIVE AGRESSIVNES IS JUST AS HARAM !!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@Dy699 Roughly, if you at age 40 and you pray and read Qur'an here and there and fast during Ramadan, you fall into top 10% of muslims world-wide. So, remembering verses is only for the, like i said, top Imam's worldwide.Don't be smart! YOUR PASSIVE AGRESSIVNES WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL-FIRE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOUNG LADY!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@AlGhaffar
Dont be a like sheep. Why do you want to imitate and be like the crowd when you know the crowd is falling in a sinking ship? Should you not try harder to READ the Qur'an? LEARN Arabic? Pray 5 times a day?
Have intention and be optimistic. Happy Muslim is a Practising Muslim.
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
@MrGrandDragon Don't worry, little man. You ll be fine. You're a good kid. You re a good kid.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
Everyone! Stop fighting and using inappropriate language...
This is a religious video, some of you don't agree with it, but there's absolutely no reason to post hate comments!
If you disagree, then post either a comment explaining why the way you see things is more correct, or upload a response video.
I'm assuming we're all here to learn. But we can't learn from each other if we don't debate the right way.
Dy699 7 months ago
@Dy699 Also, there is NO DEBATING in Islam. If i say one thing twice, that means, that's what i think it is. AND THE OTHER PARTY HAS TO LET IT BE! IT DOESNT MATTER WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG. THAT'S HOW YOU AVOID CONFLICT. NO ARGUMENTS OR DEBATES IN ISLAM. THAT'S DEVILISH.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
ALSO IT'S HARAM FOR A 4 YEAR OLD TO KNOW QUR'AN!!! THAT'S SICK!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR, BUT YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO AND YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL!!! YOU'RE NOT WELL EDUCATED YET, YOU DIDNT TRAVEL YOU DIDNT SEE SHIT, YOU ARE TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME. YOU RE ONLY 19!!! NOTHING TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS THAT YOU KNOW IT ALL. FAIL BAD!! YOU CANT JUST CLAIM, WITHOUT NEEDED BACK-UP. JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE. WOW
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Btw, i am done with this here. I have other more important things to do. Peace be upon you. May the Almighty watch on you at all times. Amin.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 You dislike the Imam, you dislike my answers. Your problem is that you think you know it all. But, in reality, you don't. You need to learn a lot. You're still young though. I give you credit for that. Knowledge wise i can be your father and age wise almost too, so. 10 years is a lot, son. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME YOUNG MAN. THIS IS ABOUT YOU. YOU NEED TO LEARN A LOT STILL.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 JUST BEING DEVILISH PERSISTANT. THAT'S NOT GOOD YOUNG MAN. PLUS, DONT CALL ME "BRO" OR "MAN", I CAN BE YOUR FATHER. I CAN GET YOU HELP, YOU JUST DONT WANT TO LISTEN. I TOLD YOU IS IN QUR'AN. NOW you re aware and go look for it yourself. BUT, DONT EXPECT FROM ME TO GIVE YOU EXACT VERSE. Especially, on this "minor" issue. HAHA ONLY HANDFULL MUSLIMS CAN GIVE YOU EXACT VERSE. THAT'S 1/100 OF HUMAN POPULATION. if you blame me not to be that at 29, i am fine with that.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING !! You're 19 and telling a Imam that he has no UNDERSTANDING. You don't even have knowledge, and your understanding is equal ZERO. Just get help. I told you in first sentence, that i don't know the verse exactly in Qur'an, not many Muslims know Qur'an from a to z, inshallah maybe one day i know too. BUT I TOLD YOU IN FIRST SENTENCE I DONT HAVE IT EXACT VERSE AND I TOLD YOU I WILL NOT LOOK FOR YOU, BUT YOU INSISTING FOR HOURS AND HOURS.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Exactly. No telling unless you're sure. And i am 100% sure here. Good. Selam.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Just ask your Imam, son! You ask me here for days and want me to find it for you, but you won't ask your imam>>?! What's that all about. You just steal peopel time or what! wow. I am trying to help you, but you just seem to take my time, i have feeling.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 DONT WAIT FOR IT. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS CLEAR AS TEAR DROP. I WILL NOT REVIEW VERSA THAT I KNOW FOR SURE. I RECOMMEND YOU GO LOOK FOR IT INSTEAD.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 But don't take my word for it. I WILL ABSOLUTLY NOT GO AND LOOK FOR IT. I said to you yesterday. Only if i come across and if i remember you. I know for sure, it's in there, just not exact verse. BETTER YOU GO LOOK FOR IT! I KNOW IT ALREADY YOU DONT. Selam.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 it's a verse in Qur'an. Not hadith. I ll try to find it. I ll let you know.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Well, you are wrong about the "hitting" matter. And you were not clera about the "sinner" matter, that's why i replied as i did. You have to be more clear.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 You're absolutly wrong here. If she denies intercourse, for no reason. Man can hit, is not haram. There is exact verse. I will find it and post it. I will now stop talking about this. I have to leave. Prayer is calling, i am already late.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 I agree. Wives are very very crucial in Islam. Very important. And you're correct about your prophet saying. I agree. Yes, all that is true, BUT THERE IS EXCEPTION FOR DENIAL OF Intercourse, for no reason. A man can hit a wife then. Is allowed.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Inshallah. Of course, but someone with education, is generally above the average individual. I know you believe everyword, but for all of us, except highly educated Imam's it is difficult to make evey word as order. No matter how hard we try. That's what i meant. You're no angel, akhi. It is impossible, but you know now what i meant.
Inshallah, more wisdom and knowledge. Always looking for more knowledge is our duty. But, you know that, that's good mashallah. Selam.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 If you were in your at least mid 20's and educated, i d say you can read on your own, and have little questions. But, otherwise, you re to get help. Unless you're really really smart. One in thousand.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Ali was EXCEPTION! Most Imam's 30+ are not exceptions, it's the norm. You can't compare that. Ali was GENIUS! One in a million. It is possible, but you have to be true to yourself. Because if you're not, you ll fall behind, for no reason. Just make sure you know what you doing.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 And continue reading on your own, that's even more encouraged, but get help because you might make mistakes, because you're not ready yet, from what i understand. There is good Imam's. Most are really good. You just have to listen to them. Read, and then look for clarification from someone. Yes, Ali was only 16, but how many Ali's were there>>? And most Imam's through history were 30+... You can't say one person did it that young, and take that as the average.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Sorry, for getting a bit upset at you, little man. I apologize. Now, i was NOT WRONG. You didn't show me anything. In fact, you had a lot of things confused. And the main issue, "hitting wife", you had it wrong. They don't confuse culture and Islam. Just believe them. Some are wrong, of course, nobody is perfect, but they're correct. They know more than any of your proffesors, probably. Just listen. Of course, yoiu shall read and on your own, but you're not ready yet to make decisions.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Btw, through education, you ll gain most knowledge.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Selamu Alejkum
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Traveling is important, bro. You ll gain the idea from what you read. It all makes more sense. For example, Qur'an says, "travel and see, how the disbelivers live in pain", and it's something you see with your own eyes, bro. You hust have to believe EVERY SINGLE WORD! It makes all sense EVERY WORD. When you travel, you relaize that. But, yes, you're somewhat right. It's not THAT important, but is a big plus. Just believe me. Of course, bro. You have to love your brothers and sister,bro
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Little brother, this is not about me, son. Like i said, i traveled the world, i ve done it all even before i got my education. And still gained knowledge while educating myself by working while studying. In fact, id say i have more knowledge than even education. And i read the Qur'an everyday for past five, six years. THTA'S your knowledge, little brother. It's normal for you and i, maybe, brother. But 90% of people don't do that. You know that, i am not sure why you bring that up.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 Bro, i know that. but' you dont. That what i am trying to tell you. i pray five times a day, i read Qur'an everyday, i read Qur'an for past six years. I am very well educated, i ve traveled all over the world. I dont need, very rarely, any help from iMma's bro. Bu, you're not ready to do that. You dont have what i have, you just don't want to listen bro.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 I am very well educated, i ve seen the world and my intelligence and knowledge is pretty high, therefore. I can go ahead read and make decisions. YOU NEED TO FIRST GO THROUGH THE LEARNING PROCESS, THEN YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS YOURSELF. READ, LISTEN, EDUCATE, SEE THE WORLD, AND THEN YOU CAN READ AND MAKE OWN DECISIONS. UNTIL THEN LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE ME OR BETTER LOCAL IMAMS BROTHER! BECAUSE GENERAL PUBLIC DONT HAVE THE TIME TO LECTURE YOU. IMAMS DO.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 THERE IS NO ARGUMENTS ABOUT ISLAMIC MATTER BETWEEN TWO PARTIES. IF WE DISAGREE, WE GO OUR WAYS. SEARCHING AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH IS DIFFERENT AND IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE>>?! I GUESS NOT. WOW!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 WHO IS TALKING ABOUT WISDOM!!!? YOURE NOT READY FOR INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE SUBJECTS, WISDOM IS MILESSSSS AWAY FOR YOU KID!!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
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AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 HAVE RESPECT TO YOUR OLDER BROTHER, LITTLE MAN!
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
Ibn Abbas (r.a) said it is hitting her with a miswak to show disapproval
alithelin1234 7 months ago
@kuitta10 You're wayyy to young to discuss this matter.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 On top what you said. It says... and even you can hit her.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@kuitta10 You have it wrong litlle man. I am pretty sure. You need to review your surat. We salam.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
visit "quran434" site for a research done on the verse 4:34
it has a detailed analysis of the word "daraba"
shrit110 8 months ago
I also don't agree with the translation of MANY verses of the Holy Qur'an .
Thanks a lot for your efforts Jazak Allah Khair :)
lemon3011 8 months ago 10
@AlGhaffar I can't find that anywhere
ByChoiceMuslim 8 months ago
@ByChoiceMuslim It's in Qur'an. Don't ask me for exact surat and verse. I don't know the Qur'an in my head. However, i read it a number of times. I read it almost everyday. But, i will try to find it and tell you, if i get time and don't forget. Or look it up yourself. Peace be upon you.
AlGhaffar 8 months ago
@AlGhaffar Peace be upon you too
ByChoiceMuslim 8 months ago
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AlGhaffar 8 months ago
@AlGhaffar What is the evidence for that?
ByChoiceMuslim 8 months ago 3
@ByChoiceMuslim agreed, what is the evidence for that?
sillykatz 7 months ago
@AlGhaffar
no I don't think the Qur'an says that, it is only permissible to hit the wife if she is committing grave sin and does not respond to simple reprimand
That is how I read the verses that are relevant at least.
chaosbringer127 7 months ago
@chaosbringer127 I said what i said. No arguing in Islam. You shall know this. Are you Muslim>>? If you unsure/not confident about some thing, see Imam.
AlGhaffar 7 months ago
@AlGhaffar
No you have it wrong.
When the wife denies the man his right to have sexual intercourse with her, then that wife is cursed by the angels through the night for denying one of her obligations towards her husband, as per the Nikkah... That is not to say the man can demand sexual intercourse whenever he feels the need, No rather the husband should not treat her wife unkindly so it works BOTH ways. The point is the wife should understand the limits that marriage imposes on the man...
MrGrandDragon 7 months ago
Aayat 4:34 is a literal structural identity of the inseparable human duality (Zawj). A prophet and his wife embody it. All Allaah’s prophets are male as the physical boundary (oneness / justice) of the law of the creation/existence/nature/society. The actions within the boundary are the feminine part of the masculine boundary (the owner & the head). To rise against a prophet is to emotionally disconnect from Allaah and take the path of self-destruction like Fir’awn in contrast to his wife.
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لا ضرورة لهذا التكلف واللفلفة والسفسطة يا حمزة فالقرآن ليس كلام إله عليم وحكيم وإنما كلام انسان من القرن السابع فان ضرب الزوجة غير مقبول أبدا ولو كان ضربا طفيفا ومهما كانت الظروف ، انت عارف هذا فدعني من هذا القيل والقال!
discussislam 8 months ago
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discussislam 8 months ago
it's amazing how clever this guy in Arabic...he is smart person
shamatroot 8 months ago
Asalam..thank you so much for this video; when I read the verse in english that says to beat your wife, I was very confused and fearful, but this lecture helped me understand and put things in a clearer, better perspective...thank you so much, if only the non-believers would understand and not wrongfully believe Islam is evil because of these few controversial verses/ sayings...
risbysarwar 8 months ago
doesn't the bible say the same thing? i'm christian and i'm pretty sure it does, its about not taking things literally.
sillykatz 8 months ago
@sillykatz
Well if you don't take what your religion says literally just because it suits you not to, what do you think God will say when you are questioned on the Day of Judgement?
eviilhomerr 8 months ago
@eviilhomerr i'm sure he will say "great job Allie for not taking it literally! so happy you didn't let religion rule your life and you had religion of the heart not from a book a MAN wrote thousands of years ago!" i'm sure he will say that, pretty positive. why? because God can not be measured by a book, he is greater than we give him credit for. i wants us to follow our hearts and do good to others. to not judge, to love and treat each other fairly. that's what he wants!
sillykatz 8 months ago
@sillykatz
Sorry but Qu'ran is the word of God, and it says to be kind, give charfity, look after orphans etc etc
So if you live by the Qu'ran, you are doing good
eviilhomerr 8 months ago
Thank so much 4 this Video
HayatLovesALLAH1 8 months ago
the sand nigger is truly a savage species
CartmanPT 8 months ago
@CartmanPT
Yes...because we all know NOT beating your wife makes you a savage...
*facepalm*
DawahFilms 8 months ago
@CartmanPT Says the European.
JabrilAbdullah 8 months ago
@CartmanPT
LOL, you win the racist prize hands down from your sentence
DifferentYetNormal 8 months ago