I find smash slightly more fun, learning to master wavedashing, into shinespiking,
Learning to L cancel mastering ever slight exploit or little but of skill required to give you every extra milla second on the battlefield..... Pulling of gimps, pulling of your first gimp where you and your opponent or off the stage for at least 5-6 seconds..... sf is good but sf is mind games same as smash, both good games but i prefer smash.
There's one rule when/if you go to EVO, and that is to be as cheap as possible. It's the only way to win. No one wants to see your fancy moves, they just want to see you win.
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daigo has always spammed, just look all of his fights since the first street fighter even when he's not playing ryu, he spams "tigers" with sagat, "sonic booms" with guile, etc...
I love SF , but I have to admit that it is repetitive, and simple....is just that other players simply don't want to accept it, they only say SF is the best fighting game, I know that SF is a good fighting game, but just accept it! god damn it!
does it matter? he's good, and he wins. there are plenty of other players that spam but they don't win because they just do it without even thinking about it.
Chaotic...believe me! Spamming hadokens requires a lot of skill. I'm not talking about the input, but that you can easily be countered. I mean like if you spam too close then you can easily eat a jump-in. So, Daigo keeps his range and whatnot. It's not easy.
Actually it's easy to spam hadoukens, I've done it before, you just have to measure the distance between you and your opponent pretty well, If you measure it correctly you'll rarely get punished by a jumping opponent, and if they manage to jump you can still do an upperut...don't try to tell me that spaming hadoukens is hard, I play SF and it's pretty simple!
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I play SF so you are not going to tell me what I concider hard or easy...spamming is so fucking simple...if you say that spamming is hard then you are a noob!
Dude just learn to accept people's opinions. You don't have to agree with them. While I think spamming can be somewhat challenging, you think otherwise, and these are our different opinions.
lol... stay with you 'honour' system. The real players are going to Evo to compete for $8000 prize money while you sit on your couch playing xbl. U're a noob who loses all the time and then blames ur complete lack of ability to play the game on the fact that other people are spamming. The producer of the game begs to differ with your stupid ideals, as these moves were made to be used, not to stare at them in your command list.
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...what? smash? you are saying that you play smash?!!! hahaha loser...sorry but i have better interesting things to do now... like watching how the flowers grow.....
I was referring to you playing Smash you fucking moron... you're obviously to dimwitted to even understand a simple insult. Seeing as you have the intelligence of a spoon I'll let you troll the internet crying 'spam' now.
fine, spam against a GOOD-HUMAN player is hard... playing against a CPU doesnt prove shit. Play against one of these guys and i bet they'd woop your bragging arse.
You know who they've made rediculously easy to like own with against average players is Zangief i swear. I mean he's beatable but his like tornado spin goes through everything. and his grabs are rediculously fast.
based on your comment i can guess u got around 500bp at best or dont even own the game. try to look at their timing and distance game. you'll learn a lot.
No. And based on your vague wannabe 'I'm teaching you how to play' sentence, you have the IQ of a fish.
Shoto users throw Hadokens at certain intervals to either force whoever to block, jump, or to just throw em off balance. Whatever the reason, it's still a spam since its repeated.
Is that downplaying the strategy in anyway? No, not really. Its a humorous observation since in 3rd Strike it wasn't a good thing to try because of the parry system.
Ken is rated lower due to his Ultra being close to useless, you dont have many EASY ways to set up his ultra unlike Ryu...have to time his fierce shoryu XX FADC > Ultra.. and EVEN if you connect, it doesnt even do full damage.
It's not just his ultra...his ability to zone with fireballs is worse, as well. Also playing with him is full of risks...to get big payoff with him you have to put yourself in dangerous situations at times.
I've played the dude, and he's not joking. He can do fierce shoryukens 9 times out of 10, and he knows this wicked sick fierce jumping kick > crouching sweep two-hit combo that he drops on people at every opportunity.
fyi I use weak combos against weak people (you), strong combos against strong people. only skilled players can adapt their style depending on the opponent they face. The day you learn this you'll get stronger mister 900bp
Fuudo EVO 2011 Winner
dawicked2k8 6 months ago
i knew ryu would win :)
passionkev01 8 months ago
look at diago fucking spamming. yes its spamming not "zoning"
NeoXNemesis 1 year ago
Fudo is pretty good.
123eldest 2 years ago
I'll take you all on with Dan!! And i'll win too! ;D
Gigameth89 2 years ago
Diago rulez !!!!
Q3Myth 2 years ago
Guys quit the smash hate, Smash is a sick game, Melee that is Melee requires a TON of skill just like this game
plasticbudgie 2 years ago
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smash is for babies played that in like grade 7
meatandwad 2 years ago
I find smash slightly more fun, learning to master wavedashing, into shinespiking,
Learning to L cancel mastering ever slight exploit or little but of skill required to give you every extra milla second on the battlefield..... Pulling of gimps, pulling of your first gimp where you and your opponent or off the stage for at least 5-6 seconds..... sf is good but sf is mind games same as smash, both good games but i prefer smash.
plasticbudgie 2 years ago
milla second... hahahaha
Jukalaboo 2 years ago
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Fudo is an idiot! He shouldn't of used to many Focus attacks, if he didnt I think he could of won.
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Unfaadable21 2 years ago
There's one rule when/if you go to EVO, and that is to be as cheap as possible. It's the only way to win. No one wants to see your fancy moves, they just want to see you win.
Rocha415 2 years ago 11
not only @EVO. Wins > fancy moves
Thisez 2 years ago
2:10-2:12 is just too damn cool
yoops 2 years ago 4
lol 2:11 ~ 2:12 sync'ed
evil99019 2 years ago 5
Fudo looks like a little girl.
axellness 2 years ago
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nothing impressive here. have had a hundred fights like it. watch the daigo ryu vs dhalsim fight for some real action.
jellarinn 2 years ago
They go crazy with hadoukens...
Bunnyforce 2 years ago
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fucking hadouken spamers...
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Hey, it's Ryu vs Ryu I'm sure you expected both of them to not use the Hadoken, Ryu's signature move, and just make out with each other amirite.
ocping 2 years ago 2
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daigo has always spammed, just look all of his fights since the first street fighter even when he's not playing ryu, he spams "tigers" with sagat, "sonic booms" with guile, etc...
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Yeah and I'm sure you expect Zangiefs not to spam lariat and grabs, Abel not to spam rolls and command throws, and Viper not to spam high jump combos.
You're like the guru of high-level SF4 matches... NOT.
ocping 2 years ago 2
I love SF , but I have to admit that it is repetitive, and simple....is just that other players simply don't want to accept it, they only say SF is the best fighting game, I know that SF is a good fighting game, but just accept it! god damn it!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
lolol exactly i hate ppl who complain bcuz they suck
tcrippa 2 years ago
its called zoning
DonolovesMileyandsk8 2 years ago 2
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I know, but that doesn't change the fact that daigo spams a lot
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
does it matter? he's good, and he wins. there are plenty of other players that spam but they don't win because they just do it without even thinking about it.
nudemonkeys 2 years ago 2
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does it matter? YES!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Chaotic...believe me! Spamming hadokens requires a lot of skill. I'm not talking about the input, but that you can easily be countered. I mean like if you spam too close then you can easily eat a jump-in. So, Daigo keeps his range and whatnot. It's not easy.
PoXiMaT 2 years ago
Actually it's easy to spam hadoukens, I've done it before, you just have to measure the distance between you and your opponent pretty well, If you measure it correctly you'll rarely get punished by a jumping opponent, and if they manage to jump you can still do an upperut...don't try to tell me that spaming hadoukens is hard, I play SF and it's pretty simple!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Still there's a lot of other things to counter that, like the tatsu which can dodge the fireball on its way.
I don't want to FORCE you to believe that spamming is not as easy it's just my opinion. :)
Have a great one.
PoXiMaT 2 years ago
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I play SF so you are not going to tell me what I concider hard or easy...spamming is so fucking simple...if you say that spamming is hard then you are a noob!
man! players from this days are pathetic!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Dude just learn to accept people's opinions. You don't have to agree with them. While I think spamming can be somewhat challenging, you think otherwise, and these are our different opinions.
PoXiMaT 2 years ago
I accept your opinion but I think you are a noob!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
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PoXiMaT 2 years ago
Wow..
PoXiMaT 2 years ago
wow???
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
lol... stay with you 'honour' system. The real players are going to Evo to compete for $8000 prize money while you sit on your couch playing xbl. U're a noob who loses all the time and then blames ur complete lack of ability to play the game on the fact that other people are spamming. The producer of the game begs to differ with your stupid ideals, as these moves were made to be used, not to stare at them in your command list.
Fucking scrub.
datriadx18 2 years ago 7
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let me guess, you are a spamer, and my comment pissed you...you are a waste of my time..go play and do the only thing you know, spam!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
Nah... u're just a loser. Stick to Smash kid. No items plz kthx. It's 'cheap'.
datriadx18 2 years ago 8
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...what? smash? you are saying that you play smash?!!! hahaha loser...sorry but i have better interesting things to do now... like watching how the flowers grow.....
loser...
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
I was referring to you playing Smash you fucking moron... you're obviously to dimwitted to even understand a simple insult. Seeing as you have the intelligence of a spoon I'll let you troll the internet crying 'spam' now.
Faggot.
datriadx18 2 years ago
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now you are saying that you have the intelligence of a spoon...don't be so hard with yourself!
ChaoticRupture 2 years ago
fine, spam against a GOOD-HUMAN player is hard... playing against a CPU doesnt prove shit. Play against one of these guys and i bet they'd woop your bragging arse.
lightsamus 2 years ago
i dont think he saying spaming is hard in general, he saying its hard to be super good spamming...
just look, if so many people spam, why is nobody on the level on Daigo?
th3major 2 years ago 5
ugh, why focus through the fireballs? 3 or four fireballs worth of damage plus the takedown, unnecessary damage
DavidFilth1 2 years ago
you gain health (provided you don't get hit) when you focus fireballs like that...
rdc501 2 years ago
gain health? or just regen what you would have lost otherwise from taking the hit.
sageosaka 2 years ago
You gain a bit of super meter.
peterstayne 2 years ago
man this is a spam fest
aaaaaaaaaaaadddd 2 years ago
Ken is crap in SF4 yet so many people still play him, i guess people just have a hard time of letting go of the past
azndude110290 2 years ago
i guess people just want to play the game and don't play with ryu just because he is better...
Dankuuken 2 years ago
wow so ur a tier whore
morbentfel 2 years ago
Real tier whores main sagat.
ocping 2 years ago
lol kidding me? intelligent flowchart kens are impossible to beat.
HwarangOfFaith 2 years ago
You know who they've made rediculously easy to like own with against average players is Zangief i swear. I mean he's beatable but his like tornado spin goes through everything. and his grabs are rediculously fast.
jauwanbarron 2 years ago
Hadoken spam FTW!
blackbodianz 2 years ago
based on your comment i can guess u got around 500bp at best or dont even own the game. try to look at their timing and distance game. you'll learn a lot.
kharion 2 years ago
No. And based on your vague wannabe 'I'm teaching you how to play' sentence, you have the IQ of a fish.
Shoto users throw Hadokens at certain intervals to either force whoever to block, jump, or to just throw em off balance. Whatever the reason, it's still a spam since its repeated.
Is that downplaying the strategy in anyway? No, not really. Its a humorous observation since in 3rd Strike it wasn't a good thing to try because of the parry system.
Pfft. You'll learn a lot he says..
blackbodianz 2 years ago 14
I don't use the word "own" a lot but you owned that jackass who responded to your comment LOL
SmartFist 2 years ago 2
spammy or not, that's how to best play the game.
XYG 2 years ago
I actually thought this video had minimal spamming compared to the Ryu/sagat matchups.
SmartFist 2 years ago
Lol @ IQ of a fish
kfuto 2 years ago
2:10 was cool
PoppinYgH 2 years ago
How come he doesnt use Ken? i thought he used Ken more than Ryu. is Ryu better than Ken in this game or something?
dss103 2 years ago
Yah, he was a ken player in 3rd strike. in this game they rate ken lower than ryu for some reason.
freshANDhesh 2 years ago
Ken is rated lower due to his Ultra being close to useless, you dont have many EASY ways to set up his ultra unlike Ryu...have to time his fierce shoryu XX FADC > Ultra.. and EVEN if you connect, it doesnt even do full damage.
-His EX fireball doesnt knockdown unlike Ryu.
jello1985 2 years ago
It's not just his ultra...his ability to zone with fireballs is worse, as well. Also playing with him is full of risks...to get big payoff with him you have to put yourself in dangerous situations at times.
AzuroMasurao 2 years ago
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are you kidding ? ken is much stronger than ryu. i crush very skilled ryu players everyday. i'm one of the best ken players in the world
SF4Master 2 years ago
I hope you're just being funny.
AzuroMasurao 2 years ago 2
I've played the dude, and he's not joking. He can do fierce shoryukens 9 times out of 10, and he knows this wicked sick fierce jumping kick > crouching sweep two-hit combo that he drops on people at every opportunity.
jfjnpxmy 2 years ago 6
Lmao
AzuroMasurao 2 years ago
fyi I use weak combos against weak people (you), strong combos against strong people. only skilled players can adapt their style depending on the opponent they face. The day you learn this you'll get stronger mister 900bp
SF4Master 2 years ago
I was joking, you hypersensitive bitch.
jfjnpxmy 2 years ago
he just likes using shotos. any problem with that?
h0td0g 3 years ago
no he's not. he's been using ryu for years
IVFADE2BLACKVI 3 years ago
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DAIGO IS A TIER-WHORE
sonicsnake9 3 years ago
Guy been using Ryu forever; how is he a tier whore? It's weirder when he plays someone else even.
Sethonan 2 years ago 2