@dbzman1985 I don't see how "non-religious agnosticism" differs from atheism, but each person if free to define his or her own beliefs.
You should be more careful with passing judgement on other faiths and people though, because their beliefs are often just as personal/individual as your own.
@dbzman1985 Cris Clapp Logan is nothing like Shelly Lubben though, Cris has never been in the adult industry. She's worked for the defense industry so I'm sure she's a cold bitch devoid of anything resembling a soul, but that doesn't make her a religious nut.
For someone who claims to be agnostic, you seem pretty hung up on religion and labeling people.
@PleaseK4 though religion is the political and social tool that controls the minds, thoughts, actions and beliefs of the masses- so yeah, anyone can be hung up on such a thing that has such a strong influences the people, laws, and freedoms in a society even if we are not a part of that belief system.
@kiwisunshine5233 Incorrect, religion is A tool, not THE tool. Irrational hate towards a religion, group or ideology is just a good a tool as any religion.
So no, you shouldn't get hung up on anything, always keep an open mind and judge everything from a rational point of view.
Porn Obscenity: Cure or Cause for Violence? HECK NO! It was help people to get sex more and sex is always awesome such to do! Unless you use condom for birth control lol :D
@StopJewNWONow "The Bible has nothing Bad in it Prove it !!!!"
Grow up you idiot.
There's probably nothing bad in the Jefferson Bible, afterall he cut all the bad shit out, which explains why it is so darned small.
Go to skeptics annotated Bible website, and you'll find thousands of listed incidences of pedophilia, murder, rape, torture, slavery, genocide all carried out by the biblical god if not mandated by him.
What about the last fifty years wherein the entertainment industry has produced violent film and TV, doesn't that then, have an impact ...? - this old argument has failed time and again- The guy is right, this is nothing but a "fake moral panic"-The violence and porn are part of human culture and it always has, read-up on the last 10,000 years of humanity.
sexual repression is promoted amongst the culture of the working class and dwindling middle class to make them more violent and thus make them more willing to join the military and be cannon fodder for the worldwide wars which increase the wealth and power of the billionaire class.
that is why free love was invented in the 1960's to try to undermine the efforts of the ruling class to create violent virgins to be recruited into military
@signboyy That's a very creative explanation of contemporary sexual embodiment, however it is of course, improbable- But I'll give you points for being creative ;)
This crap about convict testifying to hardcore porn influencing their desires is a terrible argument. Of course they are looking for an explanation regarding their own behaviour, an they will grasp at straws to provide one. Are we really going to be basing our evidence on the testimony of messed up individuals or should be be looking at more impartial data. This woman is simply looking for anything that will support her own conclusion. It is a very typical conservative attitude.
Showing women get abused in Brutal and Degrading way has nothing to do with sex. It has to do with Sick Mother Fuckers. When you legitimize it in porn, you tell these Sick Fucks that it's perfectly okay to behave this way.
I'm all for hot sex and I'm very open minded about sexuality. But these are two totally different things.
And when you have kids playing violent video games where they murder thousands of people are telling them "it's perfectly okay to behave this way?"
Funny how the rise of violent videos games and greater availability(and perhaps obscenity) of porn has correlated with a decrease in crime both violent and sexually violent, and divorce rates domestic abuse, child abuse etc.
ww w . theagitator . c om/2011/04/07/sen-hatch-wants-more-porn-prosecutions/
Sick fucks will be sick fucks. Or maybe they'll get into BDSM and not harm anyone. Either way we shouldn't restrain everyone for the few.
I've known perfectly normal women who have rape fantasies or into being spanked, and their partners have thought it was weird and they had psychological issues. And there's plenty of femdom porn where men are treated by women in brutal and degrading ways. Have you considered that maybe people are able to tell the difference between porn and reality?
@ThePintsizeslasher Fantasies of Rape are just that, Sexual Fantasy. Real Rape is not about sex. It is about brutalizing and degrading women.
Freedom of speech is one thing, hate speech is another. Brutal Porn is becoming the norm. I don't want to live in a society that embraces it! I don't want 14-year olds to think that's how you treat women.
Like theGodlessGuitarist asked what evidence do you have that "brutal porn" is becoming the norm? And what of it? We've already seen the effects of widespread availability of porn as the link I gave showed: violent crime, including sexually violent crime is down. Divorce is down. Crime against children is down. Rape is about brutalizing someone(not just women) for power and sexual gratification. Hate speech should be allowed, even though I don't think porn is.
It's up to the 14 year olds parents and school to teach him how to treat other people. Again that 14 year old very likely plays videogames where he kills other people. Yet, teenagers aren't assaulting or murdering everyone. In fact the drop in perpetrators of rapes is biggest in teenage boys and earlier twenties men, who are the most likely to use internet porn(where they can easily access brutal porn).
My point about women I've know(perfectly healthy mentally) being into rape roleplays or light SM is the point that if they did it in front of a camera for money-or even just to make amateur porn-it'd be illegal in your world. It's busybodies like you who tell them that if they do it the bedroom fine, but in front of a camera it's big house for you.
Good to know sadomoralism and the desireto impose one will on others is alive on the left and not just the right. And fuck decriminalizing drugs, legalize them.(yes all, heroin, meth)
Btw good job completely ignoring all the evidence that as the amount of porn in society increases social ills and violence has decreased.
@RBLA818 Just because its shown in a porn doesn't mean that the movie is telling you that it is ok to act out like that irl. Brutal and degrading porn exists because people get turned on from power & control play and from thinking about doing what is naughty and taboo. Porn is acting and fantasy- individuals are responsible for themselves for telling that apart stuff in movies from reality, and parents are the ones responsible for hiding whatever content they want to shelter their kids from.
That blonde has a wild outfit on for this particular topic, don't y'all think? I mean, crimson red and black, with knee boots? Dominatrix outfit to be sure...
Don't really care for: cum swallowing, choking, gagging, treating women like shit, the gross stuff. however, when they make it very hot, it can be very good.
This blonde bitch needs to stop stigmatizing and demonizing "deviant" sexualities. Stop using your faulty "statistics" in linking porn use to child abuse, teen sex crimes, domestic violence, etc. Almost EVERYONE watches porn or has watched it once in their lifetime! I watch porn all the time on the internet when I'm masturbating (And I am a 23 year old bisexual female) and it just makes thing BETTER. Obscenity laws are bullshit, and the only thing they should be concerned about is child porn!
the DOJ could better spend its resources going after the financial services industry, who are still flouting federal regulations following Enron and the banking collapses.
@dbzman1985 I agree with your point, however it is important to distinguish between the three: As shown, the Old Testament has some pretty intense non-PG13 material. The Quran on the other hand may talk about hell fire and such, but never goes into the obscene (same goes for NT). So I'd let my kids read New Testament and Quran, but I'd have to let them get a bit older before I unleash the Old Testament on them.
Sorry to go on a tangent here, but I feel that undue criticism should be avoided.
@dbzman1985 If you have read it, you might as well point to something to illustrate your point, I'd go for Ezekial 23, proves it pretty clearly (although it's still less obscene than some of the stuff you find around the internet).
I have yet to find anything like that in the Quran though, so feel free to quote something from that to prove your point.
This is what I think, Pornography is not the problem. Pornography is not causing crime.. It is not causing murder. What it is doing is causing a whole new world of sexual positivity. I guess it can go on unchecked, However that doesn't mean there isn't still a misconception of what porn is and what it should be. For instance NON NUDE CHILD MODELS is legal. Some people have a misconception of what modeling is. They put restrictions based on Judeo Christian Values.
i dont think that porn and violence have a legitimate correlation to each other. i think that they're using porn as yet another scapegoat for a general problem thats actually alot more complex when you take into account the individuals involved. and that goes for most problems in the world. the few control the many by generalizing our personal problems, and offering solutions that violate our "freedom". porn doesnt rape, people rape.BTW cigarettes are legal:direct relation btwn cigs and death...
The stupid blond is blaming a person that got addicted to porn and decided to rape children as an excuse to outlaw all porn. Thats like making all alcohol illegal because some people decide to get drunk and run over children with their car. Blame the violent stupid people that use porn in the wrong way, do NOT BLAME THE PORN.
Porn causes exploitation? REALLY? Let's not even consider that both porn and sexual exploitation may be symptoms, not problems? No. We absolutely have to jump to the porn did it.
This lady clearly knows nothing about porn, and should not be taken seriously speaking about it. It is not a shit-smeared beastiality fest. For the most part, it has no correlation with violence. And it's hard for some women to get their heads around this, but for most it is consensual. They see it as better than your boring 9 to 5 office job with lower pay, and there are few options available today.
corporations and banks hate porn because it undermines the capitalist engine which involves men working their asses off to cater to their materialist girlfriends or wives in exchange for sex. porn liberates men so that they arent dependent on women for sex and thus dont have to cater to womens' materialistic needs and as a result capitalism is undermined.
republican corporate puppets are against porn because thats how corporations and banks tell them to vote because porn undermines capitalism
are you completely niave about social engineering using cultural institutions? you think culture is just random? are you completely ignorant of how culture is influenced to support an economic system? how can you be so retarded about how the world works? do you have the mind of a 12 year old? are you willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?
@signboyy "how can you be so retarded about how the world works? do you have the mind of a 12 year old? are you willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?"
Sounds like you arguing with yourself in the mirror. Seriously, you keep digging yourself deeper into the crazy hole.
I don't want to seem stuffy, but why would anyone want to protect someone's legal right to make, consume or distribute porn? Facts are facts people that commit crimes against children are usually the type who would view porn, even if they don't view porn- if they had access to it.
Religion is a huge factor here. It teaches unrealistic nonsense- no sex before marriage, no "interesting" sex, no talking openly about sex. The whole act itself is stigmatized by religion in the USA. The Christian discomfort with sex goes back centuries... and it is difficult to get around that...
Regulate personal lives. Government in the bedroom. But-- we want smaller government! WTF? You know, this type of extreme porn is a symptom of an illness in the society itself. It's ugly, yes. But you can't just legislate it away. Prohibition only makes for more tension, and increases the allure. You have to address the issue itself - sexual repression, shame of reproduction, subjugation of women. It's all a matter of being able to look at it, and then go forward with education.
You know what causes people to hurt or kill other people; people are the cause plan and simply. Big government again trying to get a hold of your genitals and rip them off your person so you can live your lives like a bunch of ken and barbie dolls.
what i get form this is''my fetish is ok your fetish NO!'' either way you can ban porn all you want but the Internet is forever and a person that is dedicated enough WILL! find it
only because i dont like getting pissed on doesnt mean i find people that do that obscene...
CALM the fuck down people, its SEX...and if u dont like a certain sexual practice then DONT do it (and dont watch it)...i hate people that want to tell others how to have sex, only because they find s&m or sth else to be obscene...STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM OF OTHERS!
The people who rape and do other violent and nasty shit are BAD PEOPLE from the beginning! It's like sociopaths and serial killers who abuse animals at an early age.
I really doubt that porn can suddenly turn a NORMAL, nice guy who would never hurt a woman into this mega rapist obsessed with sexual shit. Porn may be a TRIGGER for men who are more susceptible to shit like rape, but I don't think it's anywhere near a 'cause.'
OTOH, there IS some potential data and evidence suggesting that increased porn access may lead to LOWER sexual assault rates, so who knows. I mean, Japan has one of hte LOWEST rates of sexual assault, but their porn can be pretty fucked up and weird as shit at times.
I think for a lot of feminists and evangelical nutjobs who hate porn, the whole "porn causes violence" schtick is just an excuse more than anything. A "legit" reason to hate porn rather than the less-paid-attention-to ones like "it abuses women" and "it's immoral" because those are kind of more open to interpretation.
Who the HELL ingests VOMIT in porn?? Maybe you went REALLY OUT OF YOUR WAY to find the most sick and nasty porn out there, Ms. Logan or whatever your name is (the blonde woman there), but I can assure you thta the vast majority of guys DO NOT view that kind of crap. I certainly don't! Yes, I have a few fetishes like limited watersports interest, spanking, interest in anal, and so on. But I don't go overboard with it.
Scat is definitely out of the question. Prolapse is fucking nasty. Shit like that is not my thing at all. BDSM MAYBE could be a turn on depending on how the scene is set up. But I'm not really into that, either.
I've viewed my fair share of clips on sites like Pornhub, and I can assure you, any "vomit-ingesting" clips out there are few and far between. Hell, I'm not even sure you can find scat on that site. Watersports, yes, in a limited fashion. Some other fetishes n such but nothing too extreme, if I recall.
Guys who are REALLY sick and into extreme porn will look hard for it REGARDLESS of what mainstream sites provide. Don't blame most porn providers, esp. the mainstream ones, for sickos and assholes out there.
The whole "the rapist has porn" or child porn thing is such a TIRED CANARD! CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION, you dumbfucks. Maybe the guy had porn because, oh, I dunno, he LIKES it? He's interested in it sexually? Not because the porn caused some weird chain reaction in his psyche that led to him becoming a pervert. Perverts like porn. As well as most regular guys. They find the porn. The porn doesn't seek them
I'm not sure what "hardcore pornography" that's "very violent" this woman is referring to. Can she be a little more SPECIFIC?? I don't deny that there's violent porn out there, but I and I'm sure PLENTY of regular guys don't seek out the most degrading porn that makes women look or feel like shit, esp. violent ones. Or maybe her definition of "violent" is a little too broad. Yes, I like some rough porn, esp. anal. But that doesn't mean I like violence against women. Intense sex is hot.
Women like Logan have such a simplistic view about porn and its viewers!!! I mean, really? This is absurd. Why do so many folks on the left always have to remove RESPONSIBILITY from the equation when it comes to things like food, cigarettes and porn and just treat the OBJECT (rather than the person) as if it can TOTALLY CONTROL them upon first contact?? It's so weird. They treat individuals like robots in these kinds of situations with their ideology.
Logan's view of "deviant" porn must be very narrow. I think most guys still get turned on by naked women (centerfolds and whathaveyou), some intense regular sex, some doggy style, and perhaps some anal. I can assure you that at least half of all porn-viewing men have that as their main repertoire. We're not all seeking the worst of the worst.
@ubermisogynist Unfortunately every major country in the world was brought together by one religion or another. Also, drink the water of being a vocal minority in the world at large. Religion, and money are the weapons used to control the world... Religion for the poor, money for the others; and the poor greatly outnumber the others. Unless you can simultaneously rid the world of poverty, hunger, pain, and death; religion will always be there.
Until I see some hard evidence (no pun intended), I'm not gonna buy the bullshit about "porn addiction", at least when it comes to VIOLENT "repercussions" like rape. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that could happen to that person with ANY thing they really like, like drugs or food. It's a PERSONALITY problem, really. Addictive personality is a legit term for a reason.
Child Abuse, Child Rape, Incest, Domestic Violence, Sex Slavery, Rape, Sex Cults, Etc...
All these perpetrators R in possession of the B_i_B_L_E!!
We don't have to look overseas or to hard core porn(sick male animal sexual fantasies) to find sexual depravity, we can just look @ religious freaks.
FLDS is just 1 X ample. The Fundamentalist Church of Laterday Saints engages in all the above. & though not known to have BROTHELS, allowing 60yr old men rule underage harems is just worst*
Even the demand for porn seems to drop, after opening porn legislation. It just gets boring, when it is available everywhere. Look at nations, that opened up: 2 or 3 years of a massive spike in interest, than people switch to cooking shows instead.
Fittingly, the number 1 porn markets are the US and islamic nations, like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan. Iraq, with massive censorship of sexual content.
The logical special interest group for tighter sexual censorship are porn producers..
@BusterXXXL Do you honestly believe that the information you got was accurate? Yes, cause countries which barely make up much of the world's population buy such stuff.
@RayKalmNiam Take a look at this article from "The islamic workplace". Damn, can't post link. Try search terms: makkah(dot)wordpress(dot)com and pornography-part-1-disturbing-statistics-for-muslim-countries I think the site is rather credible for not creating nonsense to fit an islamophobic agenda. The #1 countries to use the search term "sex" are: 1. Pakistan 2. India 3. Egypt 4. Turkey 5. Algeria 6. Morocco 7. Indonesia
You want to banned something, Banned the bible and the vatican and all churches. This is the most evil stuff in the world. incest,LIES,murder. Putting down the creator WOMBMAN. This is homosexual roman bs. atleast porn is natural Boy & Girl. But the Congress and Vatican is homosexual lies. They rape children all pastors and bishops fk lil boys and destroy their lives. come on. These are some evil people. this aint moral these are morons. watch yo children from the violence of LIES>
Soft core porn is terrible, I would take the Japanese route in midst of anti hardcore porno laws and draw my own hardcore lol or just break the law. People act like "the law" is going to stop people from doing things, hahahahahahaha NO it only serves to fund the prison industrial complex. That woman stripped of all her fancy sounding language really meant "FUCK the constitution, porno is evil I want more slaves paying govt bureaucrats"
"The majority of the content we see today involves things like women ingesting vomit while rolling around in pee." What fucking website does she go to?
@baalisgod666 the fact that eventually one requires more and more hardcore porn to get the same effect is basically common knowledge, I'm not going to cite any study to prove that the earth is round either.
@Antisyncretism Your fact is simply, that porn gets boring pretty fast. "More and more hardcore porn to get the same effect" is only true for people, who define sexuality solely as breaking taboos. Some people with personality disorders do, and a lot of religious people. And more often than not, people who belong to both groups. Healthy adult people, who get bored by porn, usually look for broader sensual and aesthetic stimuli instead. Or for actual sex, or, even, more interesting relationships
@jimmycrackedcorn226: Yeah, I've thought he same. Seems bizarre to me that extreme violence is acceptable in films, but sex on screen is strictly regulated. Something we all consider abhorrent is fine entertainment, but something that everyone does as much as they possibly can is "obscene".
Porn is great. Critical bitch's like this blonde piss me off and make the world a boring place. If I watch porn I doubt I am going to kick my girlfriends ass.
Notice that lady can't directly connect pornography and voilence? If all you have is one giant assumption, than it's a poor argument, so why are people even arguing over this?
So i've never watched voilent pornography, but i've played extremely voilent video games, and have watched extremely voilent movies with voilent rape scenes, and i've never once considered murding, raping and just brutally beating people. If someone is voilent, blame that person for there own actions, not pornography, videos games, movies ect.
After I watch porn, I know I always want to go smack a bitch and maybe kick her too, Cuz thats what will make her want to do what was in the porn. I think hearing conservatives say "...rolling around in pee. Beastiality..." is priceless.
Someone really needs to gift wrap a ball-gag and a butt-plug for that ignorant, puerile, puritan Logan and ship it overnight express! God damn it must be laborious to get someone that fucking uptight to cum. Perhaps... that's her problem?
Why should we uphold the law? Because it's the law. That's why.
liquidthex 2 weeks ago
Overseas brothels..bestiality..child pornography..rolling around in urine and scat..
I don't know what sites she visits but most the porn stars I see have twitter feeds and facebook pages..
liquidthex 2 weeks ago
I masturbate to Alyona!
TheMrgoku1985 6 months ago
I didn't know Freedom of "Speech" is Pornography.
heartlessvietboy 10 months ago
The anti-porn girl looks like a whore.
scottandrewhutchins 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 I don't see how "non-religious agnosticism" differs from atheism, but each person if free to define his or her own beliefs.
You should be more careful with passing judgement on other faiths and people though, because their beliefs are often just as personal/individual as your own.
PleaseK4 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 you mean have not been proven
kiwisunshine5233 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 Cris Clapp Logan is nothing like Shelly Lubben though, Cris has never been in the adult industry. She's worked for the defense industry so I'm sure she's a cold bitch devoid of anything resembling a soul, but that doesn't make her a religious nut.
For someone who claims to be agnostic, you seem pretty hung up on religion and labeling people.
PleaseK4 11 months ago
@PleaseK4 though religion is the political and social tool that controls the minds, thoughts, actions and beliefs of the masses- so yeah, anyone can be hung up on such a thing that has such a strong influences the people, laws, and freedoms in a society even if we are not a part of that belief system.
kiwisunshine5233 11 months ago
@kiwisunshine5233 Incorrect, religion is A tool, not THE tool. Irrational hate towards a religion, group or ideology is just a good a tool as any religion.
So no, you shouldn't get hung up on anything, always keep an open mind and judge everything from a rational point of view.
PleaseK4 11 months ago
Porn Obscenity: Cure or Cause for Violence? HECK NO! It was help people to get sex more and sex is always awesome such to do! Unless you use condom for birth control lol :D
jeremy7245 11 months ago
what kind of porn is she talking about?
smellyfooty 11 months ago
TYT Is Porn Dangerous?
watch?v=S4MLN8gnTf0
RBLA818 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 The Bible has nothing Bad in it Prove it !!!!
StopJewNWONow 11 months ago
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@StopJewNWONow "The Bible has nothing Bad in it Prove it !!!!"
Grow up you idiot.
There's probably nothing bad in the Jefferson Bible, afterall he cut all the bad shit out, which explains why it is so darned small.
Go to skeptics annotated Bible website, and you'll find thousands of listed incidences of pedophilia, murder, rape, torture, slavery, genocide all carried out by the biblical god if not mandated by him.
TheGodlessGuitarist 11 months ago
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she wouldn't let him finish anything.
slavemachines 11 months ago
What about the last fifty years wherein the entertainment industry has produced violent film and TV, doesn't that then, have an impact ...? - this old argument has failed time and again- The guy is right, this is nothing but a "fake moral panic"-The violence and porn are part of human culture and it always has, read-up on the last 10,000 years of humanity.
O2streaming 11 months ago
@O2streaming
sexual repression is promoted amongst the culture of the working class and dwindling middle class to make them more violent and thus make them more willing to join the military and be cannon fodder for the worldwide wars which increase the wealth and power of the billionaire class.
that is why free love was invented in the 1960's to try to undermine the efforts of the ruling class to create violent virgins to be recruited into military
signboyy 11 months ago 3
@signboyy That's a very creative explanation of contemporary sexual embodiment, however it is of course, improbable- But I'll give you points for being creative ;)
O2streaming 11 months ago
@O2streaming signboyy isn't creative; he's a fucking loon. He's no more creative than Alex Jones, but perhaps just as mentally unstable.
MagnusIan 11 months ago
@O2streaming
uneducated people or people with low iq's usually view view logical explanations as "creative" and "improbable"
even if you were educated about sociology and history you would probably still lack the ability to recognize patterns using logic
signboyy 11 months ago
Maybe it's just me...... but the blond looks pretty slutty to me!
jonquilmusic 11 months ago
This crap about convict testifying to hardcore porn influencing their desires is a terrible argument. Of course they are looking for an explanation regarding their own behaviour, an they will grasp at straws to provide one. Are we really going to be basing our evidence on the testimony of messed up individuals or should be be looking at more impartial data. This woman is simply looking for anything that will support her own conclusion. It is a very typical conservative attitude.
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StopJewNWONow 11 months ago
I am referring to the blond chick btw<--
TheComputerEngineer 11 months ago
Very interesting video. One thing is for certain: This lady is a feminist to the highest degree. hah
TheComputerEngineer 11 months ago
Showing women get abused in Brutal and Degrading way has nothing to do with sex. It has to do with Sick Mother Fuckers. When you legitimize it in porn, you tell these Sick Fucks that it's perfectly okay to behave this way.
I'm all for hot sex and I'm very open minded about sexuality. But these are two totally different things.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818
And when you have kids playing violent video games where they murder thousands of people are telling them "it's perfectly okay to behave this way?"
Funny how the rise of violent videos games and greater availability(and perhaps obscenity) of porn has correlated with a decrease in crime both violent and sexually violent, and divorce rates domestic abuse, child abuse etc.
ww w . theagitator . c om/2011/04/07/sen-hatch-wants-more-porn-prosecutions/
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
@RBLA818
Sick fucks will be sick fucks. Or maybe they'll get into BDSM and not harm anyone. Either way we shouldn't restrain everyone for the few.
I've known perfectly normal women who have rape fantasies or into being spanked, and their partners have thought it was weird and they had psychological issues. And there's plenty of femdom porn where men are treated by women in brutal and degrading ways. Have you considered that maybe people are able to tell the difference between porn and reality?
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
@ThePintsizeslasher Fantasies of Rape are just that, Sexual Fantasy. Real Rape is not about sex. It is about brutalizing and degrading women.
Freedom of speech is one thing, hate speech is another. Brutal Porn is becoming the norm. I don't want to live in a society that embraces it! I don't want 14-year olds to think that's how you treat women.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818
'Brutal' porn is becoming the norm? according to who? were are you getting your data from?
TheGodlessGuitarist 11 months ago
@TheGodlessGuitarist According to me. Now go play your guitar.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@TheGodlessGuitarist The Victims of Pornography by Chris Hedges.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818
Oh you mean the journalist Chris Hedges who denies that religion plays a role in Muslim suicide bombings? Very credible, lol.
I want links to data not a reference to a book written by an opinionated narcissist.
TheGodlessGuitarist 11 months ago
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@TheGodlessGuitarist TYT Is Porn Dangerous? watch?v=S4MLN8gnTf0
Pornland: How Porn has Hijacked Our Sexuality.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818
Like theGodlessGuitarist asked what evidence do you have that "brutal porn" is becoming the norm? And what of it? We've already seen the effects of widespread availability of porn as the link I gave showed: violent crime, including sexually violent crime is down. Divorce is down. Crime against children is down. Rape is about brutalizing someone(not just women) for power and sexual gratification. Hate speech should be allowed, even though I don't think porn is.
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
@RBLA818
It's up to the 14 year olds parents and school to teach him how to treat other people. Again that 14 year old very likely plays videogames where he kills other people. Yet, teenagers aren't assaulting or murdering everyone. In fact the drop in perpetrators of rapes is biggest in teenage boys and earlier twenties men, who are the most likely to use internet porn(where they can easily access brutal porn).
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
@RBLA818
My point about women I've know(perfectly healthy mentally) being into rape roleplays or light SM is the point that if they did it in front of a camera for money-or even just to make amateur porn-it'd be illegal in your world. It's busybodies like you who tell them that if they do it the bedroom fine, but in front of a camera it's big house for you.
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
@ThePintsizeslasher You Bet. Fry the Fucks who make that shit. And I'm as liberal as it gets on all other issues. Such as decriminalizing Drugs, etc.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818
Good to know sadomoralism and the desireto impose one will on others is alive on the left and not just the right. And fuck decriminalizing drugs, legalize them.(yes all, heroin, meth)
Btw good job completely ignoring all the evidence that as the amount of porn in society increases social ills and violence has decreased.
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
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@ThePintsizeslasher TYT Is Porn Dangerous? watch?v=S4MLN8gnTf0
Pornland: How Porn has Hijacked Our Sexuality.
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818 Does Porn Change Your Brain? TYT: watch?v=qAuL-IbS68w
RBLA818 11 months ago
@RBLA818 Just because its shown in a porn doesn't mean that the movie is telling you that it is ok to act out like that irl. Brutal and degrading porn exists because people get turned on from power & control play and from thinking about doing what is naughty and taboo. Porn is acting and fantasy- individuals are responsible for themselves for telling that apart stuff in movies from reality, and parents are the ones responsible for hiding whatever content they want to shelter their kids from.
kiwisunshine5233 11 months ago
That blonde has a wild outfit on for this particular topic, don't y'all think? I mean, crimson red and black, with knee boots? Dominatrix outfit to be sure...
marcomariaz26 11 months ago
get this prudish blonde lady outta here.
marklarmcfizzlestaff 11 months ago
Don't really care for: cum swallowing, choking, gagging, treating women like shit, the gross stuff. however, when they make it very hot, it can be very good.
MrAvalanche2004 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 Typical response from a typical American.
RayKalmNiam 11 months ago
what's up with the videos playing in the background?
1lastsoldier 11 months ago
This blonde bitch needs to stop stigmatizing and demonizing "deviant" sexualities. Stop using your faulty "statistics" in linking porn use to child abuse, teen sex crimes, domestic violence, etc. Almost EVERYONE watches porn or has watched it once in their lifetime! I watch porn all the time on the internet when I'm masturbating (And I am a 23 year old bisexual female) and it just makes thing BETTER. Obscenity laws are bullshit, and the only thing they should be concerned about is child porn!
uTor88 11 months ago
they're trying to kill Two Girls One Cup! NNNNOOOOO!!!! lol
SatanistSin 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 And this is why I called you an American. - You don't know anything.
All of which you stated are not allowed in Islam! Stupid bastard.
RayKalmNiam 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 lol? The Qu'ran is not "fucked" up. Stupid American.
RayKalmNiam 11 months ago
the DOJ could better spend its resources going after the financial services industry, who are still flouting federal regulations following Enron and the banking collapses.
ieodksnw787 11 months ago
that blonde is so hot
liche123 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 I agree with your point, however it is important to distinguish between the three: As shown, the Old Testament has some pretty intense non-PG13 material. The Quran on the other hand may talk about hell fire and such, but never goes into the obscene (same goes for NT). So I'd let my kids read New Testament and Quran, but I'd have to let them get a bit older before I unleash the Old Testament on them.
Sorry to go on a tangent here, but I feel that undue criticism should be avoided.
PleaseK4 11 months ago
Russian women get off on Abu Ghraib pictures.
PostBush 11 months ago
@dbzman1985 If you have read it, you might as well point to something to illustrate your point, I'd go for Ezekial 23, proves it pretty clearly (although it's still less obscene than some of the stuff you find around the internet).
I have yet to find anything like that in the Quran though, so feel free to quote something from that to prove your point.
PleaseK4 11 months ago
This is what I think, Pornography is not the problem. Pornography is not causing crime.. It is not causing murder. What it is doing is causing a whole new world of sexual positivity. I guess it can go on unchecked, However that doesn't mean there isn't still a misconception of what porn is and what it should be. For instance NON NUDE CHILD MODELS is legal. Some people have a misconception of what modeling is. They put restrictions based on Judeo Christian Values.
seenote0 11 months ago
i dont think that porn and violence have a legitimate correlation to each other. i think that they're using porn as yet another scapegoat for a general problem thats actually alot more complex when you take into account the individuals involved. and that goes for most problems in the world. the few control the many by generalizing our personal problems, and offering solutions that violate our "freedom". porn doesnt rape, people rape.BTW cigarettes are legal:direct relation btwn cigs and death...
alternateEgotist 11 months ago
The stupid blond is blaming a person that got addicted to porn and decided to rape children as an excuse to outlaw all porn. Thats like making all alcohol illegal because some people decide to get drunk and run over children with their car. Blame the violent stupid people that use porn in the wrong way, do NOT BLAME THE PORN.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 11 months ago
Porn causes exploitation? REALLY? Let's not even consider that both porn and sexual exploitation may be symptoms, not problems? No. We absolutely have to jump to the porn did it.
Xilmwa 11 months ago
"Why should they enforce it?"
"Because it's the law and the Supreme Court upheld it as law."
Good googly moogly.
There are things called dumb laws, and just because the Supreme Court says something okay, doesn't mean it is.
MooseOfReason 11 months ago
4:02 - "There's a reason that answer was vague and rambling."
YEAAAHHHHHH!
MooseOfReason 11 months ago 2
Why does the bitch talking against porn look like a slut?
PleaseK4 11 months ago
This lady clearly knows nothing about porn, and should not be taken seriously speaking about it. It is not a shit-smeared beastiality fest. For the most part, it has no correlation with violence. And it's hard for some women to get their heads around this, but for most it is consensual. They see it as better than your boring 9 to 5 office job with lower pay, and there are few options available today.
andid 11 months ago
Hurrah for republikkkans getting into your sex life. That being said, that whole rolling on pee and vomit bit was rather grotesque.
DrQuijano 11 months ago
corporations and banks hate porn because it undermines the capitalist engine which involves men working their asses off to cater to their materialist girlfriends or wives in exchange for sex. porn liberates men so that they arent dependent on women for sex and thus dont have to cater to womens' materialistic needs and as a result capitalism is undermined.
republican corporate puppets are against porn because thats how corporations and banks tell them to vote because porn undermines capitalism
signboyy 11 months ago
@signboyy Um, what in the royal fuck are you talking about? Porn undermines capitalism? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING, SIR?!
MagnusIan 11 months ago
@MagnusIan
are you completely niave about social engineering using cultural institutions? you think culture is just random? are you completely ignorant of how culture is influenced to support an economic system? how can you be so retarded about how the world works? do you have the mind of a 12 year old? are you willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?
signboyy 11 months ago
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@signboyy "how can you be so retarded about how the world works? do you have the mind of a 12 year old? are you willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?"
Sounds like you arguing with yourself in the mirror. Seriously, you keep digging yourself deeper into the crazy hole.
MagnusIan 11 months ago
I don't want to seem stuffy, but why would anyone want to protect someone's legal right to make, consume or distribute porn? Facts are facts people that commit crimes against children are usually the type who would view porn, even if they don't view porn- if they had access to it.
spinnedagain 11 months ago
While rolling around in pee, ha ha so funny.
flake452 11 months ago
Religion is a huge factor here. It teaches unrealistic nonsense- no sex before marriage, no "interesting" sex, no talking openly about sex. The whole act itself is stigmatized by religion in the USA. The Christian discomfort with sex goes back centuries... and it is difficult to get around that...
abyssquick 11 months ago
Regulate personal lives. Government in the bedroom. But-- we want smaller government! WTF? You know, this type of extreme porn is a symptom of an illness in the society itself. It's ugly, yes. But you can't just legislate it away. Prohibition only makes for more tension, and increases the allure. You have to address the issue itself - sexual repression, shame of reproduction, subjugation of women. It's all a matter of being able to look at it, and then go forward with education.
abyssquick 11 months ago
blah blah blah think of the children, blah blah blah censorship,
samuofm 11 months ago
Those boots that Ms Clapp is wearing are obscene
sasquatch989 11 months ago
You know what causes people to hurt or kill other people; people are the cause plan and simply. Big government again trying to get a hold of your genitals and rip them off your person so you can live your lives like a bunch of ken and barbie dolls.
MuttonChopCartoons1 11 months ago
I can tell the News caster Girl likes porn, haha i would marry her watch porn with her all the time.
EtaYorius 11 months ago
I enjoy hardcore porn and would never hurt anybody ever and am a very unrepressed, loving boyfriend.
So it's settled, it shouldn't be banned.
gingergiblet 11 months ago
what i get form this is''my fetish is ok your fetish NO!'' either way you can ban porn all you want but the Internet is forever and a person that is dedicated enough WILL! find it
Vakrian 11 months ago
only because i dont like getting pissed on doesnt mean i find people that do that obscene...
CALM the fuck down people, its SEX...and if u dont like a certain sexual practice then DONT do it (and dont watch it)...i hate people that want to tell others how to have sex, only because they find s&m or sth else to be obscene...STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM OF OTHERS!
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
well the truth is:
EVERY practice shown in porn is a practice that adults did and do...
its not like the big porn companies sit together and think about what sexual practice they could "invent"...
anal, dp, dt...ALL that stuff existed FOREVER in human nature.
so where exactely is the problem?
Rapt0r1202 11 months ago
The people who rape and do other violent and nasty shit are BAD PEOPLE from the beginning! It's like sociopaths and serial killers who abuse animals at an early age.
whoo689 11 months ago
I really doubt that porn can suddenly turn a NORMAL, nice guy who would never hurt a woman into this mega rapist obsessed with sexual shit. Porn may be a TRIGGER for men who are more susceptible to shit like rape, but I don't think it's anywhere near a 'cause.'
whoo689 11 months ago
OTOH, there IS some potential data and evidence suggesting that increased porn access may lead to LOWER sexual assault rates, so who knows. I mean, Japan has one of hte LOWEST rates of sexual assault, but their porn can be pretty fucked up and weird as shit at times.
whoo689 11 months ago
I think for a lot of feminists and evangelical nutjobs who hate porn, the whole "porn causes violence" schtick is just an excuse more than anything. A "legit" reason to hate porn rather than the less-paid-attention-to ones like "it abuses women" and "it's immoral" because those are kind of more open to interpretation.
whoo689 11 months ago
Who the HELL ingests VOMIT in porn?? Maybe you went REALLY OUT OF YOUR WAY to find the most sick and nasty porn out there, Ms. Logan or whatever your name is (the blonde woman there), but I can assure you thta the vast majority of guys DO NOT view that kind of crap. I certainly don't! Yes, I have a few fetishes like limited watersports interest, spanking, interest in anal, and so on. But I don't go overboard with it.
whoo689 11 months ago
Scat is definitely out of the question. Prolapse is fucking nasty. Shit like that is not my thing at all. BDSM MAYBE could be a turn on depending on how the scene is set up. But I'm not really into that, either.
whoo689 11 months ago
I've viewed my fair share of clips on sites like Pornhub, and I can assure you, any "vomit-ingesting" clips out there are few and far between. Hell, I'm not even sure you can find scat on that site. Watersports, yes, in a limited fashion. Some other fetishes n such but nothing too extreme, if I recall.
whoo689 11 months ago
Guys who are REALLY sick and into extreme porn will look hard for it REGARDLESS of what mainstream sites provide. Don't blame most porn providers, esp. the mainstream ones, for sickos and assholes out there.
whoo689 11 months ago
The whole "the rapist has porn" or child porn thing is such a TIRED CANARD! CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION, you dumbfucks. Maybe the guy had porn because, oh, I dunno, he LIKES it? He's interested in it sexually? Not because the porn caused some weird chain reaction in his psyche that led to him becoming a pervert. Perverts like porn. As well as most regular guys. They find the porn. The porn doesn't seek them
whoo689 11 months ago
I'm not sure what "hardcore pornography" that's "very violent" this woman is referring to. Can she be a little more SPECIFIC?? I don't deny that there's violent porn out there, but I and I'm sure PLENTY of regular guys don't seek out the most degrading porn that makes women look or feel like shit, esp. violent ones. Or maybe her definition of "violent" is a little too broad. Yes, I like some rough porn, esp. anal. But that doesn't mean I like violence against women. Intense sex is hot.
whoo689 11 months ago
Thrusting in and out real fast and things like that.
whoo689 11 months ago
Women like Logan have such a simplistic view about porn and its viewers!!! I mean, really? This is absurd. Why do so many folks on the left always have to remove RESPONSIBILITY from the equation when it comes to things like food, cigarettes and porn and just treat the OBJECT (rather than the person) as if it can TOTALLY CONTROL them upon first contact?? It's so weird. They treat individuals like robots in these kinds of situations with their ideology.
whoo689 11 months ago
Logan's view of "deviant" porn must be very narrow. I think most guys still get turned on by naked women (centerfolds and whathaveyou), some intense regular sex, some doggy style, and perhaps some anal. I can assure you that at least half of all porn-viewing men have that as their main repertoire. We're not all seeking the worst of the worst.
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist Unfortunately every major country in the world was brought together by one religion or another. Also, drink the water of being a vocal minority in the world at large. Religion, and money are the weapons used to control the world... Religion for the poor, money for the others; and the poor greatly outnumber the others. Unless you can simultaneously rid the world of poverty, hunger, pain, and death; religion will always be there.
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
Until I see some hard evidence (no pun intended), I'm not gonna buy the bullshit about "porn addiction", at least when it comes to VIOLENT "repercussions" like rape. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that could happen to that person with ANY thing they really like, like drugs or food. It's a PERSONALITY problem, really. Addictive personality is a legit term for a reason.
whoo689 11 months ago
Child Abuse, Child Rape, Incest, Domestic Violence, Sex Slavery, Rape, Sex Cults, Etc...
All these perpetrators R in possession of the B_i_B_L_E!!
We don't have to look overseas or to hard core porn(sick male animal sexual fantasies) to find sexual depravity, we can just look @ religious freaks.
FLDS is just 1 X ample. The Fundamentalist Church of Laterday Saints engages in all the above. & though not known to have BROTHELS, allowing 60yr old men rule underage harems is just worst*
NIKKElsix 11 months ago
Even the demand for porn seems to drop, after opening porn legislation. It just gets boring, when it is available everywhere. Look at nations, that opened up: 2 or 3 years of a massive spike in interest, than people switch to cooking shows instead.
Fittingly, the number 1 porn markets are the US and islamic nations, like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan. Iraq, with massive censorship of sexual content.
The logical special interest group for tighter sexual censorship are porn producers..
BusterXXXL 11 months ago
@BusterXXXL Do you honestly believe that the information you got was accurate? Yes, cause countries which barely make up much of the world's population buy such stuff.
America is the largest consumer of porn.
RayKalmNiam 11 months ago
BusterXXXL 11 months ago
@BusterXXXL lol. Propagandic much?
RayKalmNiam 11 months ago
@RayKalmNiam You did not check
BusterXXXL 11 months ago
How can CLAPP be let off without quoting one single study? Come on Alyona.
baalisgod666 11 months ago
But why can't Clapp-head just not watch it. Puritans should die brutally.
baalisgod666 11 months ago
You want to banned something, Banned the bible and the vatican and all churches. This is the most evil stuff in the world. incest,LIES,murder. Putting down the creator WOMBMAN. This is homosexual roman bs. atleast porn is natural Boy & Girl. But the Congress and Vatican is homosexual lies. They rape children all pastors and bishops fk lil boys and destroy their lives. come on. These are some evil people. this aint moral these are morons. watch yo children from the violence of LIES>
da13thsun 11 months ago
Soft core porn is terrible, I would take the Japanese route in midst of anti hardcore porno laws and draw my own hardcore lol or just break the law. People act like "the law" is going to stop people from doing things, hahahahahahaha NO it only serves to fund the prison industrial complex. That woman stripped of all her fancy sounding language really meant "FUCK the constitution, porno is evil I want more slaves paying govt bureaucrats"
MadXMax187 11 months ago
I agree with the reason guy
MadXMax187 11 months ago
I'd totally bone that hardcore fascist miz logan. Degrading style.
MrJeffshaver 11 months ago
So what is Alyona and porn industry? Has she had it in awhile? I am available!
dragnet53 11 months ago
"The majority of the content we see today involves things like women ingesting vomit while rolling around in pee." What fucking website does she go to?
todaypompeii 11 months ago
@todaypompeii lolo
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
the more porn one watches the more hardcore it needs to be, yes it can lead to rape, when even the most extreme videos just aren't enough anymore.
Antisyncretism 11 months ago
@Antisyncretism is this your personal opinion? or do you read fake studies too? facts please.
baalisgod666 11 months ago
@baalisgod666 the fact that eventually one requires more and more hardcore porn to get the same effect is basically common knowledge, I'm not going to cite any study to prove that the earth is round either.
Antisyncretism 11 months ago
@Antisyncretism Your fact is simply, that porn gets boring pretty fast. "More and more hardcore porn to get the same effect" is only true for people, who define sexuality solely as breaking taboos. Some people with personality disorders do, and a lot of religious people. And more often than not, people who belong to both groups. Healthy adult people, who get bored by porn, usually look for broader sensual and aesthetic stimuli instead. Or for actual sex, or, even, more interesting relationships
BusterXXXL 11 months ago
@BusterXXXL you've basically agreed with me.
Antisyncretism 11 months ago
@Antisyncretism Only if you ignore 99% of what I said.
BusterXXXL 11 months ago
There's people fucking in the background!
todaypompeii 11 months ago
This blond bimbo needs to get herself a life, and quit threatening other peoples' liberties.
butchman1 11 months ago
Ha ...I thought blondie there was a porn star at first . = P
real934 11 months ago
How many dicks in a butthole does it take for a video to be considered artistic?
skimaskradio 11 months ago
Obscenity Laws are BULLSHIT!
06mustangCE 11 months ago 2
porn is immoral though.
awesome399 11 months ago
@awesome399
How would porn be immoral?
smartwarlord 11 months ago
the host is hot
Chao5monger 11 months ago
It's porn. Who cares. Frankly, I'd rather a teen watch two people get it on than have him watch some guy getting disemboweled.
Make sex easier to get at, and people will be alright.
jimmycrackedcorn226 11 months ago 27
@jimmycrackedcorn226: Yeah, I've thought he same. Seems bizarre to me that extreme violence is acceptable in films, but sex on screen is strictly regulated. Something we all consider abhorrent is fine entertainment, but something that everyone does as much as they possibly can is "obscene".
JCLeSinge 11 months ago
@jimmycrackedcorn226 btw nice carlin quote and yes i agree
Vakrian 11 months ago
Ms. Logan keeps repeating herself as if mere repetition will make her assertions true.
magicpet 11 months ago
It's subjective
It's private It's going to be viewed anyways LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE
Pry0citerJohn 11 months ago
Watching blondie there is making me want to carry out some violence.
guydecervens 11 months ago
ridiculous
doit420sdf 11 months ago
Gonna be a lot of prisoners out there and a lot of broken homes blondie. Why don't you think of the children.
splntz 11 months ago
Congress needs to worry about wars and unemployment.
xmintyninjax 11 months ago
Porn is great. Critical bitch's like this blonde piss me off and make the world a boring place. If I watch porn I doubt I am going to kick my girlfriends ass.
FreeFireGaming 11 months ago
Notice that lady can't directly connect pornography and voilence? If all you have is one giant assumption, than it's a poor argument, so why are people even arguing over this?
jrdudedj 11 months ago
There is not a single intelligent comment for this video.
HolyCity2012 11 months ago
@HolyCity2012 I disgree, i've only seen one stupid comment so far O_O
jrdudedj 11 months ago
@HolyCity2012 Logan does not merit intelligent debate, she deserves brutal, unrelenting ridicule. Sorry.
lucerfarul 11 months ago
@lucerfarul What are you sorry for? & Are you truly "sorry"?
HolyCity2012 11 months ago
So i've never watched voilent pornography, but i've played extremely voilent video games, and have watched extremely voilent movies with voilent rape scenes, and i've never once considered murding, raping and just brutally beating people. If someone is voilent, blame that person for there own actions, not pornography, videos games, movies ect.
jrdudedj 11 months ago 2
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist what? you will start humping dogs in the streets?
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist i am not a woman, i am your father, luke. join me.
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist join me, let me plug my 2 inch usb memory card into your usb port.
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
It was proven that Justin Bieber promotes teabagging, we should hang him.
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
beastiality? WTF
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist they do white men?
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
@ubermisogynist lol go hang yourself, you sick bastard.
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
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ubermisogynist 11 months ago
Can we ban Justin Bieber and Snooki?
JogBird 11 months ago
Let's ban porn so more people will stop masturbating, and go out to rape others
djsuperstar717 11 months ago 20
@djsuperstar717 virgins will organize orgies in their mothers' basements
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
Japanese men watch a lot of crime and they are all pansies who can't even hurt a baby.
WavesOfTrolls 11 months ago
After I watch porn, I know I always want to go smack a bitch and maybe kick her too, Cuz thats what will make her want to do what was in the porn. I think hearing conservatives say "...rolling around in pee. Beastiality..." is priceless.
Keep it classy Conservatism!
youngbuck189 11 months ago
Someone really needs to gift wrap a ball-gag and a butt-plug for that ignorant, puerile, puritan Logan and ship it overnight express! God damn it must be laborious to get someone that fucking uptight to cum. Perhaps... that's her problem?
lucerfarul 11 months ago