@DukeofColumbia the 'mass mutinies' largely didn't happen. desertion and mutiny rates for all sides in the war were fairly consistently 0.7-1% throughout the war with the exception of disasters like Gallipoli. These were mostly men refusing to fight (and being shot for mutiny) or slipping across into enemy territory and surrendering before major battles began,as was mentioned many german troops did this in advance of the Verdun offensive,completely ruining any element of suprise
@brothachiken023 Remember that, before Hitler, Jews were often identified with Germany. Many Jews were junior officers in the German army. Bismarck was strongly supported by Jewish bankers and businessmen. In France since 1870, many of Germany's spies were Jews (hence the Dreyfus affair, although Dreyfus was innocent). Our mental representations have been completely altered after Nazism.
i lived in this area, i just want to inform that there is still wounds of the war, the ground got hills wich are the stigmats of the bombs, not only in Verdun but almost everywhere, near Reims, near Nancy etc everyear they still find bombs and they evacuate population to explode it safely, there is a huge concentration of cemeteries, just little white cross all the same,when you walk in them you can't even say where it start and where it's finished, where is the left and right, it's too vast.
My great uncle was killed in Verdun. He was wearing a coal scuttle helmet if your wondering. My great grandfather was a german war hero and the co-designer of the 88mm AA gun. My first grand uncle shot down six english spitfires, and my other uncle was killed by a guerilla during the invasion of Poland. I am proud of my German military ancestry.
@Aidan880000 my country suffered greatly because of the people like your ancestors. i am proud of my country soldiers and guerrilas for they killed invaders like your ancestors, and i am ashamed by your pride in nazi history of your family. you should suffer as we did. i wonder how proud you would be then, poor man.
@shukenja German military ancestry is different to that of Nazi history. Confusing the two is a huge mistake. Not every German was a Nazi. Much in the same way that not every American nowadays is a fat slob, or every Russian a severe alcoholic, or every Polish person a builder in the UK. He is simply saying he is proud of the service of his family to his country, which is exactly the same as you, so your critiscism is hypocritical.
@shukenja did he say he was proud of being a Nazi? Shut the fuck up dude, he had family fight in a war have some fucking respect. It the political leaders of the world back then that you need to blame, get your shit together.
@shukenja Nazi history dude? Well fuck you. My great grand father had to go into hiding in Germany because he was not a member of the Nazi party. The hitlers first coup de ta my great grand father was the person who actually arrested him. My great grand father had a fort named after him in western germany. They wouldn't name a fort like that after a jew killing nazi. His last name was Rudel. Fuck you again. BTW what is your country.
@Aidan880000 My uncle who died in poland had done nothing wrong. He had entered part of western poland which was friendly to the germans. Evidently not all the poles in that region were big fans. He was riding head and torso out of an armored car. People were cheering. Then came so farmer with a SMG. One magazine later my uncle was dying on the road. The locals tried to save him, but to no avail. Later some soldiers captured the guerrilla farmer. My GGF had a decision to make. The farmers life w
@Aidan880000 was in his hands. My GGB let him go back to his farm. The farmer was not shot or sent to a concentration camp. He lived. So mister Shukenja I have one thing to say to you. F-U-C-K Y-O-U.
Verdun, despite the poor leadership that allowed it to happened is a testament to the bravery and self sacrifice of a generation of French man. The French population was decimated by WW 1 and has still not recovered. Remember Both WW-1 and WW-2 decimated France. Those who mock the French military are ignorant of a tradition going back not Hundreds but a 1000 years. A tradition of a Nation whose military might has waxed and waned and always came back as a beacon of civilized life.
Thats interesting. Germans considered themselves to be the best soldiers in the world. The followers of roman empire, but they suffered the biggest defeat in human history. Twice !
@janborrowitz They were the best man for man- on an equal basis. They were defeated by numbers and productive capacity. Their man for man ability couldnt hold off the superior resources.
The Alies had 7 X the tanks, 5 X heavy artillery and 5X trucks 7x macine guns than the Axis
@Anekantavad Most Americans learn about History from the History Channel and the HC spends much of its time with reality TV and obsession over monsters, aliens and Mayan prophecy. When they do cover History we get the US Civil War, Vietnam and the only non US history is Roman pop history and WWII.
As a result we see Dien Bien Phu, Ceasar's conquest of Gaul and the surrender to Hitler. This means that most Americans are unaware of France's many moments of martial courage and military genius.
@Anekantavad Waterloo was a military retreat not a surrender. England did not conquer france. France was returned to a monarchy for a few years before returning back to the republic it is today.
@Anekantavad i can agree with what you say .....I am part french /german /irish and i respect france , they have had some great warriors and made some great inventions. BUT the british and Americans never surrendered their country
@popper504 The British had the English Channel, the French army, and the Maginot line between them and the Germans.
The US had the Maginot line, the French army, the English Channel, the British army, the Royal Navy, and the Atlantic Ocean between them and the German army.
@Anekantavad Man, every cultured person in the world knows that the "french being coward" is an anglo-saxon myth. Ww know how brave the french have been throughout history.
I don't think the French are cowards. They lost more men in WW1 than we have in Afghanistan and Iraq, by a longshot. Hell, the French are more guilty of being undisciplined than craven (mutiny was a big problem in the French army during WW1.) They surrendered to Hitler because, well - the Nazi war machine was exceedingly well-oiled, and pretty much steam-rolled them. There is little dishonor in surrendering to an opponent you can't beat. Also, "surrender" is a relative term - viva la Resistance!
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I never understand when people say the French are not great soldiers. Its obvious that they have never read a history book. France was the preeminent military power for hundreds of years.
@22grena Two words. "Napoleon" and "Verdun" show that the French are among the bravest and most determined soldiers on earth. I mean no disrespect to the Russian, American, British, Chinese, and other soldiers of the world, but I do say that the French are at least the equal of anyone else when it comes to soldiering.
@Anekantavad True.Verdun was WW1's Stalingrad. Even up to the First World War the French were known internationally as the nation with the most illustious military past Nobody understimated them. Napoleon was an icon for generations of soldiers and military academys. Thats why the highest German military decoration until the First World War was the Pour le Mérite. The French Adrian helmet was used by many nations.
@22grena no insult to your comment wich is very good and i agree, i dislike however this tendency to establish the nearer past as the original. verdun wasn't the stalingrad of ww1, stalingrad was the verdun of ww2.
@22grena The Pour le Merite was instituted by Frederick the Great and preceeded Napoleon. French was used because Frederick the Great had a great admiration for the absolutist regimes in France under Louis XIV.
@22grena I agree. However the Pour le Merite originated from the kingdom of prussia and as in many european courts the noble language was France so the prussian military decoration became received a french name. So its not because of the illustious military past of France. Germans or Prussians created very sufficient military theories which were adapted by the Wehrmacht later and are today in use with probably every modern Army. Also the Stahlhelm is the model for the modern combat helmet.
@bartieboy93 there is no viva la france, there is no deutschland ueber alles. its a huge killing without sense, without winner. but there a always people like you, who learned nothing from history.
alsace had been german territory for centuries. it was taken by force from us. thx for your whining that we wanted to keep it. btw your self-righteousness sucks so fkn much ... everytime you defeated us you needed help from half of the world outnumbering us 10:1.hardly a thing to be proud of. but keep on declining our territory. keep on with the trend and soon we're gone. have a party then.
@xn117 I also find ww1 fascinating because it was a transition war into modern technology.Everything about war started to become industrialized and still yet people maintained some old traditions and ways of fighting like bayonets on the end of their rifles and used horseback to travel
@tacomuncher211 Bayonets on the end of rifles are still used today by modern armies.
Cavalry also saw usage in WW2, us Brits used 'em against the Italians in the East African Campaign whilst the Poles and Russians made use of 'em on the Eastern Front.
"After 14 days of fighting the Germans had lost 80,000 men, the French a few thousand more." 160,000 dead young men in 14 days. "The veil of hell." The understatement of the century.
@Matttheweatherman13 Yeah well my question was how they make a camera pan like that in a real assault. Thus a rhethorical question to prove my point it's from a movie^^
@TehUltimateSnake Most is from ww1, some of that is of real battles, some are probably staged, and at least ONE clip (German assault at 01:18) is from a Hollywood movie, though I thought I saw others from that movie (All Quiet On the Western Front) in the whole documentary.
@Matttheweatherman13 Yeah I mean the one from 1930. I do know that alot of this footage is from ww1, but alot of the footage from ww1 itself was staged because the risks involving filming real combat with the technology they had back then.
If you wonder which part I mean it's the one around 01:18. How can the camera PAN along with the advancing troops? Besides I recognize the scene very well, it's from a scene where the German troops counter-attack a failing French assault.
Imagine youre running over a field, the artillery is dismembering your comrade next to you and the enemy machineguns are mowing down everyone, you just have a rifle and you cannot hit someone because you have to hide, or get killed. This is war.
"I would have liked to be at Verdun but my duty unquestiongly was to be at my headquarters" -Joffre
You dont make history by sitting behind a stupid front desk when being the commander in chief of an army...YOU LEAD FROM THE FRONT TO STATUE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEN DAMMIT!
@IvanBeSerious It wasnt possible for army leaders to be close to the front line, given the range of the artillery. The risk was way too great. No single leader, since the American Civil War (1860-65), was at the front line anymore.
@VieleFeindeVielEhre Have you checked out Rommel? It WAS possible for commanders to be at the front. As you say it was very risky with possible artillery strikes and all that, but the thing is that an army needs to keep the morale up. And who will they put their faith and trust in? A General that hides in a mansion 40 km behind the front? Or a General that actually visit the troops at the front and is easy to inform?
Witht new technology, the commanders are getting more and more cowardly imo
@Jospehporta 1909.and dont u have somethign better to do other than follwoing my posts thruough utube and calling me names? ur so pathetic.lol get a life as soon as possible and stop acting like a bitch
@Jospehporta yes im upset cause i dont like persons like u who twist history and they type w/e they want just 4 their own personal reasons.get over it
@itachiitachi1946 So you must really hate yourself considering all teh absolute fantasy bullshit you write about history. No wonder you get so angry....you hate yourself :)
@Jospehporta im not angry and i can keep replying to u for the rest of my life(i dare u to do it and ull see i mean and imark my words)actualy ur the one who livesin fantasy cause u think that usa participated in wwars.lolu watch 2 many hollywood movies like saving private ryan and uplaymany ww2 games like medal of honor and call of duty.go read history u little boy and see that usa in wws did nothing.u fought only japan which has nothing to do with europe.so shut up cause u have no righttalking
@itachiitachi1946 It's obvious you're angry, look at the crap you write :) Seems you ply a lot of video games, you seem to know all about them. It still doesn't change the FACTS that without America the war would have been lost and Greece was of ABSOLUTELY no importance. The Germans conquered Greece in 2 weeks with a fraction of their army. Now don't be angry because Greece sucks.
@Jospehporta u type nonsesnes i wont type somethign to u cause i typed emm all about what and when happened.check this out about ww2. /watch?v=XBZpBAKliWE and in ww1 look who gave u 15 million tons of food cause u were starving(greece! even though we had russia france italy and uk helping the turks and they commited genocide against greeks in 1922 in pontus and minor asia)u should be thank full and respect my country for what it did to u.read history u moron
@itachiitachi1946 LAMO, you statements just get more and more stupid. Greece gave who 15 million tons of food? Greece could barely feed itself. Anymore bullshit?
@Jospehporta greece sended in usa 15 million tons of food.check it out. turks r better than grreks? thats why the whole world adopted the greek civilisation? thats why we r just 10 million and we kick ass everywhere? thats why we destroyed the ottoman empire of turkey? we had nothing and they had everything and yet we won.oh shut up.greeks have proved that they r the supreme race of world.any1 who didnt adopt the greek way of life uses hieraglyphs and has no idea about science and culture
@itachiitachi1946 Yep I checked it out and it turns out America sent Greece the food. Nice try though. The whole world hasn't adopted Greek civilization. Only Greeks speak Greek, English is based off Latin :)
LMAO Greece is a complete shithole, which no one really cares about. Hells they're about to be kicked out of the EU because Greeks are so lazy and bankrupt.
@Jospehporta u didnt check it out.cause if u would check it out u would see that greeks sended food in usa after the end of ww1.u said none adopted greek civilisation? lets see...architecture,poems,music,guitar,mathematics,chemistry,phisicks,democras and politicalsystem and even economy and christinity(i can keep typing 4 ever like that). even in usa constitution is writtenthat americans must resepct greeks cause americans adopted the greek way of life.check it out u kido.usa is also bankrupt...
@Jospehporta i showed u facts.its up to u to go into a library and start rding about ggreece in world wars.see what happened and be amazed by greece and realise that without greece u wouldnt be free now.also check what ur country did in wws.absolutely nothing.i think deep indown u already knwo im right.ur free to check the fact and to read history.over
@Jospehporta they werent allies in ww1.great powers were neutral when greece was liberating greek soil from turkey back then all those great powers went against greece and attacked the greek army and helped turkey by traning them and providing them supplies.check it.check what happened in 1922 in afion karahisar in turkey.ur an american u know shit about world so it natural 4 if u know shit about ww1.
@Jospehporta America helped, but the war was likely to fail anyway. There were millions of striking workers in germany at the time, crippling its already failing economy and home front
@kafroflol Actually the allies had there own issues, By that time British were worn out, the French were so shocked they refused to attack, The only nations with any success was Australia, Canada and New Zealand, And there most reliable General was an Aussie, General Sir John Monash. Actually so great that was said that had the war lasted into 1919 he would have become the Commander of all Allied Units on the Western front.
People who like to call French soldiers cowards and sissies need to watch this. No country on earth could have withstood the pressure they were put under at Verdun.
@redreaper2020 I was referring to WWI. Germany surrendered with no Allied soldiers on German territory, and Russia caved in when they actually had the resources to carry on. France was in a much more precarious position, but they held.
As far as the other allies, I guess we'll never know how they would have handled it.
you are wrong. Poles also can stop and conterattack examples: Monte Cassino, Battle of Englang, resistence during WWII and many more. Not only french are good soldiers. And remember about battle under Somma river - where English counterattacked and German must reliesed many soldiers from Verdum and disslocate them!!!!!
@pawrum5858 I think what makes Verdun different was that it was an "industrial" battle, where not only were the conditions unendurable, but it just kept on and on, for months on end.
@LeHappiste Well ever since WW2, France military achievements has not been great. From WW2 to Indochina(where the viet-minh won more battles than France) to Algeria revolution, that's where the France got their asses kicked by those 3rd world nations. Mostly all of them led by Frenchmen(one of 1st rules of french warfare). No offense but some live to it's standard of french being called cowards.
@publicmario17 yes we know that great military nations don t exist any longer. Their great achievements belong to history. Since wwii wars are just fiascos .and for every military nations.
@publicmario17 Speaking of third world nations kicking ass the US got theirs kicked at Vietnam. no? Algeria did not win on the battlefield against the French but won because the French left. Sound familiar? The French had a battalion in Korea that was unmatched in achievments by any other, being outnumbered, battle victories, decorations, citations, manned and led by Frenchmen.
Algeria was a french military victory so i wouldn't say that "France got their asses kicked by those 3rd world nations".
French failed in Vietnam with 30.000 men... Americans failed in Vietnam with 600.000 men.
French get involved in a SHORT and USEFUL war in Libya (mostly france and the UK, and 6 months later it was over). America is fucked in the ass for 10 years in Irak and Afghtanistan.
So why don't you just SHUT UP while the USA didn't win a war for 70 years?
@Freez57fr AND furthermore to consider the libyan sky war a victory is HOGWASH lol USA BRITISH andd FREANCE bombed some tanks and planes WHOOPIE DO lol USA has 11 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS TO YOUR 1 LMAO
@Anekantavad Well the Soviets did endure a lot at Stalingrad as well but yes it is true the French definately were great at Verdun and of course also at the second battle of the Marne.
It's incredible how the French can win despite all this chaos. The French can handle chaos while the German order. I think the French were more versatile and adaptable than the German. If their forces don't completely break as in WWII, they were bound to win eventually.
@XXXpallisterXXX The french was mostly fighting one on one initially and same thing at Verdun and yet they continuously beat back the german despite the fact germany was a much bigger country than France. the BEF force was like less than 5% of allies fighting force.
@TemplarX2 The Germans had to send troops to fight the Russians they had to deal eith British and commonwealth troops and the French. Despite having those countries against them they nearly won the war. If France did not have British, Russian and US help they would have lost.
@XXXpallisterXXX France had battled by herself coalitions including ALL of European powers. Yet, she had WON. English and Dutch passports bear insignias in French. The highest German military rewards are named in French. The kings of Sweden and Spain, to this day, are French. Etc... etc... If there's one country that seared its seal on the world, that would be France.
@XXXpallisterXXX Germany had lost to France's Napoleon, although Germany was backed by the UK, Holland, Denmark, Austria, Hungary, Italy, and Spain. Unlike your statement, this is no "hypothetical history". This is a hard fact. None of the German military elites who had received their "Pour Le Mérite" medals could do anything about it.
@Rachegotter I wasn't talking about when Napoleon ruled France, im talking about 1914 when world war one kicked of, that i think France would have lost to Germany if it was just them two fighting at that time.
@XXXpallisterXXX You have no evidence to that effect. Just your opinion based on the fact that you're probably one of those disciples of George Bush who hate France. I have presented to you evidence that France had been superior to Germany for hundreds of years. Germany may have invaded France in 1940, but it lasted 4 years. France had occupied German territories for several hundreds of years before that (and even after WWII. French soldiers remained on German grounds till 1998).
@Rachegotter Are you not listening,i said I think that if Germany attacked France in 1914, and just attacked France and France had no help the Germans would have won. Im not talking about hundreds of years agolike you are, and i'm a disciple of George bush?? Good one im not even American....
@XXXpallisterXXX And again, based on what facts do you make your claims? Opinions are not a matter of debate, just if you're just stating your own personal beliefs, I've got nothing to say to you. If however you can substantiate your claims with evidence, let's talk about it. As for Bush, he has many disciples all over the world, not just in the US.
@XXXpallisterXXX To add to your debate. Germany would have been hard pressed to beat France on her own. Germany arranged a series of treaties with the Italians and Austrians for the expressed purpose of taking down France- since Germans were the aggressor in the war. Whilst it might be tempting to look at the size of the German army logistically the German rail network could not keep up if they sent the whole army in at once.France's eatern could not really hold an invading army logistically
@XXXpallisterXXX Also when German did start the war it was a complete surprise to France-since it was unexpected at the time. Given the time that Germany would need to invade France with the other half of the army ordinarily fighting the Russians France would have been able to call in her colonail troops. France did infact call in her colonial troops at the beginning of 1915 and this is were the stalemate really started to occur. The French defensive positions would prove problematic.
Wasn't Verdun when the mass mutinies of the French armies occurred (or were said mutinies at the Battle of the Somme?
DukeofColumbia 2 days ago
@DukeofColumbia the 'mass mutinies' largely didn't happen. desertion and mutiny rates for all sides in the war were fairly consistently 0.7-1% throughout the war with the exception of disasters like Gallipoli. These were mostly men refusing to fight (and being shot for mutiny) or slipping across into enemy territory and surrendering before major battles began,as was mentioned many german troops did this in advance of the Verdun offensive,completely ruining any element of suprise
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@brothachiken023 Remember that, before Hitler, Jews were often identified with Germany. Many Jews were junior officers in the German army. Bismarck was strongly supported by Jewish bankers and businessmen. In France since 1870, many of Germany's spies were Jews (hence the Dreyfus affair, although Dreyfus was innocent). Our mental representations have been completely altered after Nazism.
Hippophilee 1 week ago
i lived in this area, i just want to inform that there is still wounds of the war, the ground got hills wich are the stigmats of the bombs, not only in Verdun but almost everywhere, near Reims, near Nancy etc everyear they still find bombs and they evacuate population to explode it safely, there is a huge concentration of cemeteries, just little white cross all the same,when you walk in them you can't even say where it start and where it's finished, where is the left and right, it's too vast.
daswerck91 1 week ago
@daswerck91 Thats amazing. And sad.
vomit49894 1 week ago
you know i have been watching this stuff for years.
i am sick of how evil we were to each other. i am not christian or muslim or jew. i am just sick of our history of pure hate. earth needs help
Gingervention 2 weeks ago
My great uncle was killed in Verdun. He was wearing a coal scuttle helmet if your wondering. My great grandfather was a german war hero and the co-designer of the 88mm AA gun. My first grand uncle shot down six english spitfires, and my other uncle was killed by a guerilla during the invasion of Poland. I am proud of my German military ancestry.
Aidan880000 3 weeks ago
@Aidan880000 my country suffered greatly because of the people like your ancestors. i am proud of my country soldiers and guerrilas for they killed invaders like your ancestors, and i am ashamed by your pride in nazi history of your family. you should suffer as we did. i wonder how proud you would be then, poor man.
shukenja 2 weeks ago
@shukenja German military ancestry is different to that of Nazi history. Confusing the two is a huge mistake. Not every German was a Nazi. Much in the same way that not every American nowadays is a fat slob, or every Russian a severe alcoholic, or every Polish person a builder in the UK. He is simply saying he is proud of the service of his family to his country, which is exactly the same as you, so your critiscism is hypocritical.
TRUExSIGHTS 2 weeks ago
@TRUExSIGHTS Don't bother trying to preach to the ineducable masses!
vomit49894 1 week ago
@shukenja did he say he was proud of being a Nazi? Shut the fuck up dude, he had family fight in a war have some fucking respect. It the political leaders of the world back then that you need to blame, get your shit together.
crazymuthaphukr 1 week ago
@shukenja Nazi history dude? Well fuck you. My great grand father had to go into hiding in Germany because he was not a member of the Nazi party. The hitlers first coup de ta my great grand father was the person who actually arrested him. My great grand father had a fort named after him in western germany. They wouldn't name a fort like that after a jew killing nazi. His last name was Rudel. Fuck you again. BTW what is your country.
Aidan880000 1 week ago
@Aidan880000 My uncle who died in poland had done nothing wrong. He had entered part of western poland which was friendly to the germans. Evidently not all the poles in that region were big fans. He was riding head and torso out of an armored car. People were cheering. Then came so farmer with a SMG. One magazine later my uncle was dying on the road. The locals tried to save him, but to no avail. Later some soldiers captured the guerrilla farmer. My GGF had a decision to make. The farmers life w
Aidan880000 1 week ago
@Aidan880000 was in his hands. My GGB let him go back to his farm. The farmer was not shot or sent to a concentration camp. He lived. So mister Shukenja I have one thing to say to you. F-U-C-K Y-O-U.
Aidan880000 1 week ago
Verdun, despite the poor leadership that allowed it to happened is a testament to the bravery and self sacrifice of a generation of French man. The French population was decimated by WW 1 and has still not recovered. Remember Both WW-1 and WW-2 decimated France. Those who mock the French military are ignorant of a tradition going back not Hundreds but a 1000 years. A tradition of a Nation whose military might has waxed and waned and always came back as a beacon of civilized life.
scottduncan44 1 month ago 6
WW1 is a good example how NOT to wage war.
The ideal war is quick and decisive.
This is because no nation throughout history has ever shown itself to benefit from prolounged war and fighting.
SinerAthin 1 month ago
Once again Piere the French bastard got face-fucked:P.Thumbs up if you dislike the French xD
MojoLin1 1 month ago
@MojoLin1 Level of comment displayed by low education or lack of understanding.
ItaloGallese 1 month ago 2
@MojoLin1 Would you say that in person ? or is this one more pimply teenager taking time out from wacking off to be an asshole online?
scottduncan44 1 month ago
Wouldn't that stink to be the camera guy during all that...
darkstars22 1 month ago 6
my ancestor has fought in Verdu I was there me too.The ossuary is a really cold thing to watch in memory of fallen soldiers.Rip
TheGaze28 2 months ago
@TheGaze28 Or, how the Anglo-Saxons would do anything to dominate the world.
toqtaqiya 2 months ago
WWI is a great example of how fuckin stupid political leaders are
shadysoldier84 2 months ago 46
@shadysoldier84 and ww2 how fucking stupid the peoples are...
boss180888 1 month ago
@shadysoldier84 I'll buy that for a dollar!
vomit49894 1 week ago
I can't even imagine the horrors endured by those valiant, poor souls of WWI. Thank goodness the French held everything together
Cry4Tanelorn 2 months ago
Thats interesting. Germans considered themselves to be the best soldiers in the world. The followers of roman empire, but they suffered the biggest defeat in human history. Twice !
janborrowitz 2 months ago
@janborrowitz They were the best man for man- on an equal basis. They were defeated by numbers and productive capacity. Their man for man ability couldnt hold off the superior resources.
The Alies had 7 X the tanks, 5 X heavy artillery and 5X trucks 7x macine guns than the Axis
ItaloGallese 1 month ago 2
If this video were a potato it would be a good potato,
SuperJosef321 3 months ago
Anyone know about the Nurses involving this war? Howd they help?.....really need to know D:
xXFlamingRose012Xx 3 months ago
@xXFlamingRose012Xx Edith Cavell was a nurse and a spy during the war... research her
MangoLaffy 3 months ago
@Anekantavad not at all true. the British were surrounded by the japanese the burmese east and korean reinforcements. many more than 36,000
hordichuck 3 months ago
This should have 6,8 billion views .
pcrvg0808 4 months ago
@Anekantavad Most Americans learn about History from the History Channel and the HC spends much of its time with reality TV and obsession over monsters, aliens and Mayan prophecy. When they do cover History we get the US Civil War, Vietnam and the only non US history is Roman pop history and WWII.
As a result we see Dien Bien Phu, Ceasar's conquest of Gaul and the surrender to Hitler. This means that most Americans are unaware of France's many moments of martial courage and military genius.
Rexanglorum 4 months ago 2
in my opinion the german army was the best army at that time, they have proven how deadly their 'blitzkrieg' can be and how fast they can advance..
spermwaste 4 months ago
This may be a really dumb question (if it is, please don't be rude about it), but is this real footage or is it a reenactment?
nwbxvcmqlskdjfhg 4 months ago
@nwbxvcmqlskdjfhg real
austinduschell 4 months ago
All Quiet On The Western Front... Nuff Said
Trazosable 4 months ago
@popper504 we arent fighting the iraqi military... we are training them to fight iraqi terrorists
Brianx49x 4 months ago
@Anekantavad Waterloo was a military retreat not a surrender. England did not conquer france. France was returned to a monarchy for a few years before returning back to the republic it is today.
LittleFrenchy72 4 months ago
@LittleFrenchy72 There was the Second Empire, though, between the Bourbon Restoration and the Second Republic.
Bernstein1917 4 months ago
@Anekantavad i can agree with what you say .....I am part french /german /irish and i respect france , they have had some great warriors and made some great inventions. BUT the british and Americans never surrendered their country
popper504 4 months ago
@popper504 The British had the English Channel, the French army, and the Maginot line between them and the Germans.
The US had the Maginot line, the French army, the English Channel, the British army, the Royal Navy, and the Atlantic Ocean between them and the German army.
:-)
Anekantavad 4 months ago
@Anekantavad Man, every cultured person in the world knows that the "french being coward" is an anglo-saxon myth. Ww know how brave the french have been throughout history.
1999521 4 months ago
I don't think the French are cowards. They lost more men in WW1 than we have in Afghanistan and Iraq, by a longshot. Hell, the French are more guilty of being undisciplined than craven (mutiny was a big problem in the French army during WW1.) They surrendered to Hitler because, well - the Nazi war machine was exceedingly well-oiled, and pretty much steam-rolled them. There is little dishonor in surrendering to an opponent you can't beat. Also, "surrender" is a relative term - viva la Resistance!
aldoreshgaramok 5 months ago
its funny how youtube viewers are able to start a war over every imaginable topic. Even war.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
sad, most germans didn't even like the kaiser
DauntedFungus 5 months ago
I never understand when people say the French are not great soldiers. Its obvious that they have never read a history book. France was the preeminent military power for hundreds of years.
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@22grena these people are brainwashed by anglo-american anti-french propaganda.
boss180888 5 months ago
@22grena Two words. "Napoleon" and "Verdun" show that the French are among the bravest and most determined soldiers on earth. I mean no disrespect to the Russian, American, British, Chinese, and other soldiers of the world, but I do say that the French are at least the equal of anyone else when it comes to soldiering.
Anekantavad 5 months ago 2
@Anekantavad True.Verdun was WW1's Stalingrad. Even up to the First World War the French were known internationally as the nation with the most illustious military past Nobody understimated them. Napoleon was an icon for generations of soldiers and military academys. Thats why the highest German military decoration until the First World War was the Pour le Mérite. The French Adrian helmet was used by many nations.
22grena 5 months ago 28
@22grena no insult to your comment wich is very good and i agree, i dislike however this tendency to establish the nearer past as the original. verdun wasn't the stalingrad of ww1, stalingrad was the verdun of ww2.
boss180888 4 months ago
@boss180888 Yes quite right.
22grena 4 months ago
@22grena The Pour le Merite was instituted by Frederick the Great and preceeded Napoleon. French was used because Frederick the Great had a great admiration for the absolutist regimes in France under Louis XIV.
SamuelJamesNary 2 weeks ago
@22grena I agree. However the Pour le Merite originated from the kingdom of prussia and as in many european courts the noble language was France so the prussian military decoration became received a french name. So its not because of the illustious military past of France. Germans or Prussians created very sufficient military theories which were adapted by the Wehrmacht later and are today in use with probably every modern Army. Also the Stahlhelm is the model for the modern combat helmet.
DenverYellowStone 1 day ago
i can hear peter o'toole's voice in one of the narrations.
roycosing 6 months ago
agreed xn117...ww1 was so unnecessary and therefore so much more tragic...
disoriented1 6 months ago
Both sides are men of outstanding courage but they are just fighting for the rich men who never get their suits dirty same as all wars
whereskim89 6 months ago
It's sad a lot of this footage are parts of movies made late 20's or 30's but thanks for the upload !!! :)
SergioWW1WW2 6 months ago
world war 1= a war of pain; world war 2 = a war of the brain; vietnam = a war of pain in the brain.
cbradley1391 7 months ago 2
viva la france
bartieboy93 7 months ago
@bartieboy93 there is no viva la france, there is no deutschland ueber alles. its a huge killing without sense, without winner. but there a always people like you, who learned nothing from history.
keinraffvonnix 6 months ago
alsace had been german territory for centuries. it was taken by force from us. thx for your whining that we wanted to keep it. btw your self-righteousness sucks so fkn much ... everytime you defeated us you needed help from half of the world outnumbering us 10:1.hardly a thing to be proud of. but keep on declining our territory. keep on with the trend and soon we're gone. have a party then.
WaldImSommerwind 8 months ago
@WaldImSommerwind hmm... yes, thats not so strange is it my boy,
Germany has always had a bigger population than France ever since its unification.
bartieboy93 7 months ago
i remember that battle, i was there. it seems like it was yesterday..
well, i didnt mean to make fun of that terrible war.
DDKILLER990 8 months ago
fantastic documentary
Greenhornet270 8 months ago
ww1 is fascinating. too bad it is ignored unlike ww2
xn117 9 months ago 62
@xn117 It's ignored because it has no use in American propaganda.
toqtaqiya 8 months ago
@xn117 No war is fascinating, no war is ignored. we shall always remember what mankind is capable of.
MrPawelLisowski2 4 months ago
@xn117 oh fascinating yes....but one of the saddest, most pointless wars ever fought.
rdwilliams75 4 months ago
@xn117 I also find ww1 fascinating because it was a transition war into modern technology.Everything about war started to become industrialized and still yet people maintained some old traditions and ways of fighting like bayonets on the end of their rifles and used horseback to travel
tacomuncher211 1 month ago in playlist More videos from mengutimur
@tacomuncher211 Bayonets on the end of rifles are still used today by modern armies.
Cavalry also saw usage in WW2, us Brits used 'em against the Italians in the East African Campaign whilst the Poles and Russians made use of 'em on the Eastern Front.
stormwell 1 month ago
"After 14 days of fighting the Germans had lost 80,000 men, the French a few thousand more." 160,000 dead young men in 14 days. "The veil of hell." The understatement of the century.
Truthpolice9698 9 months ago
@Truthpolice9698 Think when they say lost/casualty in military history terms, they mean wounded+dead, but it's an astonishing figure none-the-less.
PrometheanRunGood 8 months ago
@Matttheweatherman13 Yeah well my question was how they make a camera pan like that in a real assault. Thus a rhethorical question to prove my point it's from a movie^^
OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
@OnkelMickwald
This footage is real man..
TehUltimateSnake 9 months ago
@TehUltimateSnake Most is from ww1, some of that is of real battles, some are probably staged, and at least ONE clip (German assault at 01:18) is from a Hollywood movie, though I thought I saw others from that movie (All Quiet On the Western Front) in the whole documentary.
OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
@TehUltimateSnake
If in doubt, compare 01:18 in this clip with
6:28 in /watch?v=5OWE96RTAWI
OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
@Matttheweatherman13 Yeah I mean the one from 1930. I do know that alot of this footage is from ww1, but alot of the footage from ww1 itself was staged because the risks involving filming real combat with the technology they had back then.
If you wonder which part I mean it's the one around 01:18. How can the camera PAN along with the advancing troops? Besides I recognize the scene very well, it's from a scene where the German troops counter-attack a failing French assault.
OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
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OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
good quotes
hurmpfff 9 months ago
I love that some of the "combat footage" is from the Hollywood film "All Quiet on the Western Front!":D
OnkelMickwald 9 months ago
fuckin french.
slim77k 9 months ago
all these lives ruined and lost...
all because some idiots were pissed at the world.
missgirlluver 10 months ago 4
no sound effects..only reallity
michikuTV 10 months ago
Commencing 10 hours worth of WWI documentaries
Zachdudeio2 10 months ago 2
they should have turned those trucks into armoured trucks after they were done delivering supplies like they do now days
jmantime 10 months ago
Would be so hard to not pussy out...
Stragen876 11 months ago
Imagine youre running over a field, the artillery is dismembering your comrade next to you and the enemy machineguns are mowing down everyone, you just have a rifle and you cannot hit someone because you have to hide, or get killed. This is war.
MrCalifornia95 11 months ago
These soldiers run fast as hell, they make Usain bolt look slow.
BurningCarcassTV 11 months ago
welcome to the jewish meatgrinder
justsomedude777 1 year ago
"I would have liked to be at Verdun but my duty unquestiongly was to be at my headquarters" -Joffre
You dont make history by sitting behind a stupid front desk when being the commander in chief of an army...YOU LEAD FROM THE FRONT TO STATUE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE MEN DAMMIT!
IvanBeSerious 1 year ago
@IvanBeSerious It wasnt possible for army leaders to be close to the front line, given the range of the artillery. The risk was way too great. No single leader, since the American Civil War (1860-65), was at the front line anymore.
VieleFeindeVielEhre 1 year ago
@VieleFeindeVielEhre Have you checked out Rommel? It WAS possible for commanders to be at the front. As you say it was very risky with possible artillery strikes and all that, but the thing is that an army needs to keep the morale up. And who will they put their faith and trust in? A General that hides in a mansion 40 km behind the front? Or a General that actually visit the troops at the front and is easy to inform?
Witht new technology, the commanders are getting more and more cowardly imo
IvanBeSerious 1 year ago
At 8:25, when I saw what happened to the wounded and dead, I panicked a little bit knowing that people died in places like that.
TheRyanAkers2 1 year ago
I've just read a diary of a man who fought at the Somme in WW1, and he said the dead were handy because they made good sand-bags...
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
Actually the flame-throwers weren't new. The Germans had been using them since 1915.
DeanVX05 1 year ago
@DeanVX05 u mean 1909
itachiitachi1946 1 year ago
@itachiitachi1946 Actually my comment was meant to be strictly within the context of the First World War.
DeanVX05 1 year ago
@DeanVX05 You are correct the flamethrower wasn't used until 1915 in any theater.
Jospehporta 1 year ago
@Jospehporta 1909.and dont u have somethign better to do other than follwoing my posts thruough utube and calling me names? ur so pathetic.lol get a life as soon as possible and stop acting like a bitch
itachiitachi1946 1 year ago
@itachiitachi1946 LOL see how upset you get when you;re obviously wrong. Pathetic.
Jospehporta 1 year ago
@Jospehporta yes im upset cause i dont like persons like u who twist history and they type w/e they want just 4 their own personal reasons.get over it
itachiitachi1946 1 year ago
@itachiitachi1946 So you must really hate yourself considering all teh absolute fantasy bullshit you write about history. No wonder you get so angry....you hate yourself :)
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta im not angry and i can keep replying to u for the rest of my life(i dare u to do it and ull see i mean and imark my words)actualy ur the one who livesin fantasy cause u think that usa participated in wwars.lolu watch 2 many hollywood movies like saving private ryan and uplaymany ww2 games like medal of honor and call of duty.go read history u little boy and see that usa in wws did nothing.u fought only japan which has nothing to do with europe.so shut up cause u have no righttalking
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 It's obvious you're angry, look at the crap you write :) Seems you ply a lot of video games, you seem to know all about them. It still doesn't change the FACTS that without America the war would have been lost and Greece was of ABSOLUTELY no importance. The Germans conquered Greece in 2 weeks with a fraction of their army. Now don't be angry because Greece sucks.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta u type nonsesnes i wont type somethign to u cause i typed emm all about what and when happened.check this out about ww2. /watch?v=XBZpBAKliWE and in ww1 look who gave u 15 million tons of food cause u were starving(greece! even though we had russia france italy and uk helping the turks and they commited genocide against greeks in 1922 in pontus and minor asia)u should be thank full and respect my country for what it did to u.read history u moron
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 LAMO, you statements just get more and more stupid. Greece gave who 15 million tons of food? Greece could barely feed itself. Anymore bullshit?
Well the Turks are superior to the Greeks.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta greece sended in usa 15 million tons of food.check it out. turks r better than grreks? thats why the whole world adopted the greek civilisation? thats why we r just 10 million and we kick ass everywhere? thats why we destroyed the ottoman empire of turkey? we had nothing and they had everything and yet we won.oh shut up.greeks have proved that they r the supreme race of world.any1 who didnt adopt the greek way of life uses hieraglyphs and has no idea about science and culture
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Yep I checked it out and it turns out America sent Greece the food. Nice try though. The whole world hasn't adopted Greek civilization. Only Greeks speak Greek, English is based off Latin :)
LMAO Greece is a complete shithole, which no one really cares about. Hells they're about to be kicked out of the EU because Greeks are so lazy and bankrupt.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta u didnt check it out.cause if u would check it out u would see that greeks sended food in usa after the end of ww1.u said none adopted greek civilisation? lets see...architecture,poems,music,guitar,mathematics,chemistry,phisicks,democras and politicalsystem and even economy and christinity(i can keep typing 4 ever like that). even in usa constitution is writtenthat americans must resepct greeks cause americans adopted the greek way of life.check it out u kido.usa is also bankrupt...
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Nah I saw the videos where the AMericans gave the Greeks millions of dollars in aid over decades.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta u say u saw the videos.then post em!!!...if u can....
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Also anyone can make a video, show me some facts.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta i showed u facts.its up to u to go into a library and start rding about ggreece in world wars.see what happened and be amazed by greece and realise that without greece u wouldnt be free now.also check what ur country did in wws.absolutely nothing.i think deep indown u already knwo im right.ur free to check the fact and to read history.over
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 In fact you showed nothing resembling a fact. You;re an idiot.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta read my earlier comment.
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@Jospehporta your;re an idiot, haha. dick in your chops!
mushroomlint 11 months ago
@mushroomlint Hmmm try stringing some words together which actually make sense :)
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta check the English prefix and suffix you will find many greek words there,
MrTss77 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Also you dumbass, the Allies were fighting Turkey in WW1 you fucking idiot :) It's so easy to prove you wrong.
Jospehporta 11 months ago
@Jospehporta they werent allies in ww1.great powers were neutral when greece was liberating greek soil from turkey back then all those great powers went against greece and attacked the greek army and helped turkey by traning them and providing them supplies.check it.check what happened in 1922 in afion karahisar in turkey.ur an american u know shit about world so it natural 4 if u know shit about ww1.
itachiitachi1946 11 months ago
@Jospehporta America helped, but the war was likely to fail anyway. There were millions of striking workers in germany at the time, crippling its already failing economy and home front
kafroflol 1 week ago
@kafroflol Actually the allies had there own issues, By that time British were worn out, the French were so shocked they refused to attack, The only nations with any success was Australia, Canada and New Zealand, And there most reliable General was an Aussie, General Sir John Monash. Actually so great that was said that had the war lasted into 1919 he would have become the Commander of all Allied Units on the Western front.
MrVonnoobie 3 days ago
@itachiitachi1946 Wrong as usual, VX05 is entirely correct the first use of a flamethrower was by the Germans in 1915.
Jospehporta 1 year ago
People who like to call French soldiers cowards and sissies need to watch this. No country on earth could have withstood the pressure they were put under at Verdun.
Anekantavad 1 year ago 48
@Anekantavad um...yeah...they could...
Far worse was endured by Russia & germany in WW2.
redreaper2020 1 year ago
@redreaper2020 I was referring to WWI. Germany surrendered with no Allied soldiers on German territory, and Russia caved in when they actually had the resources to carry on. France was in a much more precarious position, but they held.
As far as the other allies, I guess we'll never know how they would have handled it.
Anekantavad 1 year ago
@Anekantavad Well, the Russians are tougher than the French.
toqtaqiya 8 months ago
@toqtaqiya and you are saying this based on what?
bartieboy93 7 months ago
@Anekantavad
you are wrong. Poles also can stop and conterattack examples: Monte Cassino, Battle of Englang, resistence during WWII and many more. Not only french are good soldiers. And remember about battle under Somma river - where English counterattacked and German must reliesed many soldiers from Verdum and disslocate them!!!!!
pawrum5858 8 months ago
@pawrum5858 I think what makes Verdun different was that it was an "industrial" battle, where not only were the conditions unendurable, but it just kept on and on, for months on end.
How does the human nervous system cope with that?
Well, ask the poilus.
Anekantavad 7 months ago
@Anekantavad Youre talking about 100 years ago, ofcours they were " brave" they had no change to run they could only die fighting
baratomic 7 months ago
@baratomic
And the French surrender of WW2 was about 70 years ago.
Does it prevent peoples (mostly americans) to call the French "cowards"?
LeHappiste 7 months ago
@LeHappiste Well ever since WW2, France military achievements has not been great. From WW2 to Indochina(where the viet-minh won more battles than France) to Algeria revolution, that's where the France got their asses kicked by those 3rd world nations. Mostly all of them led by Frenchmen(one of 1st rules of french warfare). No offense but some live to it's standard of french being called cowards.
publicmario17 7 months ago
@publicmario17 yes we know that great military nations don t exist any longer. Their great achievements belong to history. Since wwii wars are just fiascos .and for every military nations.
CPYV78 7 months ago in playlist Military Weapons, etc. part 2
@publicmario17
You should type "list of battles involving France" in google and click on the wikipedia link.
You will be surprised to see what France did after WW2.
LeHappiste 7 months ago
@publicmario17 So, if you're defeated, you became a coward? Well well well, so pretty much every country in the world is populated with cowards.
Theilax 7 months ago
@publicmario17 Speaking of third world nations kicking ass the US got theirs kicked at Vietnam. no? Algeria did not win on the battlefield against the French but won because the French left. Sound familiar? The French had a battalion in Korea that was unmatched in achievments by any other, being outnumbered, battle victories, decorations, citations, manned and led by Frenchmen.
1Dougy85 6 months ago
@publicmario17
Algeria was a french military victory so i wouldn't say that "France got their asses kicked by those 3rd world nations".
French failed in Vietnam with 30.000 men... Americans failed in Vietnam with 600.000 men.
French get involved in a SHORT and USEFUL war in Libya (mostly france and the UK, and 6 months later it was over). America is fucked in the ass for 10 years in Irak and Afghtanistan.
So why don't you just SHUT UP while the USA didn't win a war for 70 years?
Freez57fr 5 months ago
@Freez57fr AND furthermore to consider the libyan sky war a victory is HOGWASH lol USA BRITISH andd FREANCE bombed some tanks and planes WHOOPIE DO lol USA has 11 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS TO YOUR 1 LMAO
popper504 4 months ago
@Anekantavad except the russians in the great patriotic war, who suffered these kinds of losses every couple of months for four years
scarecrow312 5 months ago
@scarecrow312 They called Stalingrad "Verdun on the Volga".
Anekantavad 5 months ago
@Anekantavad that's as may be but no other people have paid so high for their freedom
scarecrow312 5 months ago
@scarecrow312 True.
Anekantavad 5 months ago
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boss180888 5 months ago
@Anekantavad Well the Soviets did endure a lot at Stalingrad as well but yes it is true the French definately were great at Verdun and of course also at the second battle of the Marne.
truvianni 5 months ago
jesus this is terrifying
terrasweet 1 year ago
Is this from the same series that is on the Military Channel? If so, can the whole series be purchased via amazon or another venue?
frusso5621 1 year ago
Some of this footage looks like training exercises with controlled explosions.
zulubro 1 year ago
this movie itt iiightt :)
Biiancahh1023 1 year ago
wow this are some glorius soldiers. "Do more than your duty!"
MTotenkopf 1 year ago
It's incredible how the French can win despite all this chaos. The French can handle chaos while the German order. I think the French were more versatile and adaptable than the German. If their forces don't completely break as in WWII, they were bound to win eventually.
TemplarX2 1 year ago
@TemplarX2 One on one Germany would have crushed Fance.
XXXpallisterXXX 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX The french was mostly fighting one on one initially and same thing at Verdun and yet they continuously beat back the german despite the fact germany was a much bigger country than France. the BEF force was like less than 5% of allies fighting force.
TemplarX2 1 year ago
@TemplarX2 The Germans had to send troops to fight the Russians they had to deal eith British and commonwealth troops and the French. Despite having those countries against them they nearly won the war. If France did not have British, Russian and US help they would have lost.
XXXpallisterXXX 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX 50 million french pop. vs 80 million german pop whose going to win?
bushbaumf 1 year ago
Et les allemands étaient seuls, peut-être ?
Dicopsy 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX France had battled by herself coalitions including ALL of European powers. Yet, she had WON. English and Dutch passports bear insignias in French. The highest German military rewards are named in French. The kings of Sweden and Spain, to this day, are French. Etc... etc... If there's one country that seared its seal on the world, that would be France.
Rachegotter 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX Germany had lost to France's Napoleon, although Germany was backed by the UK, Holland, Denmark, Austria, Hungary, Italy, and Spain. Unlike your statement, this is no "hypothetical history". This is a hard fact. None of the German military elites who had received their "Pour Le Mérite" medals could do anything about it.
Rachegotter 1 year ago
@Rachegotter I wasn't talking about when Napoleon ruled France, im talking about 1914 when world war one kicked of, that i think France would have lost to Germany if it was just them two fighting at that time.
XXXpallisterXXX 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX You have no evidence to that effect. Just your opinion based on the fact that you're probably one of those disciples of George Bush who hate France. I have presented to you evidence that France had been superior to Germany for hundreds of years. Germany may have invaded France in 1940, but it lasted 4 years. France had occupied German territories for several hundreds of years before that (and even after WWII. French soldiers remained on German grounds till 1998).
Rachegotter 1 year ago
@Rachegotter Are you not listening,i said I think that if Germany attacked France in 1914, and just attacked France and France had no help the Germans would have won. Im not talking about hundreds of years agolike you are, and i'm a disciple of George bush?? Good one im not even American....
XXXpallisterXXX 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX And again, based on what facts do you make your claims? Opinions are not a matter of debate, just if you're just stating your own personal beliefs, I've got nothing to say to you. If however you can substantiate your claims with evidence, let's talk about it. As for Bush, he has many disciples all over the world, not just in the US.
Rachegotter 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX To add to your debate. Germany would have been hard pressed to beat France on her own. Germany arranged a series of treaties with the Italians and Austrians for the expressed purpose of taking down France- since Germans were the aggressor in the war. Whilst it might be tempting to look at the size of the German army logistically the German rail network could not keep up if they sent the whole army in at once.France's eatern could not really hold an invading army logistically
fp470 1 year ago
@XXXpallisterXXX Also when German did start the war it was a complete surprise to France-since it was unexpected at the time. Given the time that Germany would need to invade France with the other half of the army ordinarily fighting the Russians France would have been able to call in her colonail troops. France did infact call in her colonial troops at the beginning of 1915 and this is were the stalemate really started to occur. The French defensive positions would prove problematic.
fp470 1 year ago