@potco133 I don't have any problems at controlling Gan Ning's musou unless obstacles present. You need to find a creative way to control his musou and get use to it.
@davidchen128 Well for me it is hard to control. Sometimes I may hit the enemy officer head on, but sometimes I just pass right beside them and miss. So yeah I'm not used to the speedy musou sword like most are.
@potco133 But consider Gan Ning is played to be the best, there is no reason to say that Gan Ning's musou is stupid. His musou is still quite good. Did you steer CCW as you approach your target? Did you give him the musou length like it is shown in this video?
im so happy. i just made a CAW of gan ning and i got really close to the perfect weapon. Medium weight with att, mus, fill, charge, and luck. If luck was speed i would've been extatic. and i got it first try so i didn't have to redo the stage :D
@hamahama23ify Can you try him with heavy weapon. I don't know how to set up Internal Time Trick. I think you should give him internal time trick heavy weapon with ATK, SPD, CHARGE, MUS. He can kill playable officers in one musou w/ o Ice. I think Gan Ning is not an impressive freezer. C3 is a good method of filling. Dragon Arm is a must for safe C3 execution. C3 has long reach and high height. If everything is in front of him, C3 should be safe.
@davidchen128 perhaps. but later. i accidently deleted ALL of the data on my ps2 card. :(((((((((. so i gotta start all over. but once everythings back, sure
@davidchen128 officer killing includes multiples, crowd clearing isnt a big deal as the goal in this game as well as in wars is to kill enemy commanders (neat how in this game killing officers will also leave peons defenseless and harmless, easy targets?). anyways, whoever can do this the most efficient will be ranked higher in this tier, good news is after rewatching i think if ganning does come up w/ a way to kill playables in one musou he'll get a raise, as this vid was done w/ no fill bonus.
@mukamuka123 Actually, they are somewhat different. eg) Cao Ren is a good officer killer, but he is terrible against multi. Also Zhang He is mediocre against officers, but pretty good against multi compare to others.
Also, even if there are no soldiers, he does not need to use musou. He can use C5 to buffed officers. Then use 5 normal moves endlessly. Defeating Lu Bu in Struggle for the Book must use C5 and then endless combo. Gan Ning is my favorite character because DW3 is the first DW games I played. Since Gan Ning is the #1 who is way better than Cao Cao the #2 in DW3, I admire him. His musou is unique and strong since DW3
@DW5chaosmodeguide Sorry. I mean both Zhou Tai and Zhao Yun are high tier, but Gan Ning and Ling Tong is better than both. The only characters better than Gan Ning are ZGL, Lu Bu, Ma Chao, Ling Tong in this game.
You are meaning DW5 XL, with full weapon customization, and Chaos Mode?
You are right that Zhuge Liang and Lu Bu are better than Gan Ning and Ling Tong, but they aren't the only characters that are better. Also, if you ban horse combat, Ma Chao isn't really better than Gan Ning, but rather equal.
I'm resuming the Tier List, and the top few tiers are pretty much set, and I have videos of most of them.
Ignoring all the details, Pang De has a fairly consistent musou filling method, and a Musou that will kill even playable officers in one Musou. Against all these stronger opponents and enemy commanders, Pang De has a clear edge over Gan Ning. Besides Pang De, there are plenty of other characters that have a stronger offense than Gan Ning - Zuo Ci, Sun Jian, Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, Zhang Liao, Lu Meng.
@DW5chaosmodeguide I agree that Zuo Ci can be better than Gan Ning because of good filling ability(C4) KO rate, yet the other characters you mentioned has a large gap of KO rate between Gan Ning and them. Lu Meng and Sun Jian can kill playable officers in a musou, yet they have filling issues, so they are not as good. I agree that they can have stronger offenses, but their filling ability and safety and KO rate is not as good. Pang De's C6 is consistent and safe at filling.
A note on KO rate - It has been agreed in the Tier List community that Crowd Clearing is given much less credit than Officer Killing ability. What's typically agreed is 80% Officers and 20% Crowds. So for an overall Tier List, we make two Tier List and combine them with a bit of math. However....you might note that it is less professional as the method for determining this is very subjective.
Give me time, I will come up with a more numeric way of justifying this in the future
@DW5chaosmodeguide Oh I forgot to mention another point. Last time in Conquest of Nanzhong chaos mode, I destroyed three jugglernauts in one musou. He is considered one of the best at killing weapons, such as siege towers in Guan Du.
Also, there seems to be a clear cutoff point for characters that can and can't kill playable officers in one Musou. This difference in offense is enough to create a point of tier separation in the tier list.
The safety and speed of offense is not a big difference between Gan Ning and Zhou Tai, but Gan Ning has almost twice as high as Zhou Tai in KO rate, so I consider Gan Ning is a higher tier.
@DW5chaosmodeguide I agree that the characters you mentioned has stronger offense than Gan Ning, but their KO rates are only about half as high as Gan Ning. Maybe it's better to put 70% at Officer Killing and 30% at Crowd Clearing. Taishi Ci can kill very fast, but he is extremely weak at crowd clearing. I would consider Meng Huo is better than Taishi Ci even though Meng Huo is the weakest at officer killing.
@DW5chaosmodeguide Lu Meng, Sun Jian, Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, Zhang Liao has about the same filling speed withe Gan Ning, but Gan Ning has way safer filling due to his invincible C6. If 5 hits in two run through occurs, this allows Gan Ning to kill playable officers in one musou
I don't think it's a good argument to say Gan Ning's fill is better just from the invincible C6. It's only invincible on the execution, and that's only a small part of his Musou filling method.
Let me know if you can consistently do more hits with Gan Ning's Musou than I can.
I will have to make an update for Gan Ning, if that's the case.
@DW5chaosmodeguide I just want to say thanks to you for discussing this. Also w/ Musou Rage, Gan Ning is incredible against multi-officers, even buffed officers. He can kill more than one buffed officer at the same time in Mt. Qi with Musou Rage w/ ease. When defeating DD Sima Yi in Mt. Qi, Gan Ning can use C5 and endless juggle. The other characters have to procrastinate until musou is filled, unless they equip fire orb.
@DW5chaosmodeguide You have already done a very good job in this video. Because it sounds like Gan Ning has many unusual strengths, so I just put some comments on. Some of my comments might not be practical. Sorry.
5) and 6) If you want to fill with perfect defense w/ Zhou Tai, C1 spamming will be slow. Filling with C3 is risky unless using Dragon Arm. Gan Ning's C6 fills safer than Zhou Tai's C3. If you want to use true musou and do 1-musou offense and longer reach, Dragon Arm can not be used. W/ Dragon arm and wind scroll, he can not equip way of musou. To do a one-musou offense, he must use Fire orb and use C3 to burn the officer and apply to normal musou.
8) Zhou Tai's musou can be the weakest, so he will struggle against weapons, such as jugglernauts. Gan Ning is the best at killing weapons since this will allow his every single attack hit successfully, and his musou frequency is way higher than Zhou Tai, and his individual strike is about 6x stronger than Zhou Tai. Gan Ning can kill castle weapons in 5-star chaos mode in one musou, having 800 HP. We can see it at Bai Di castle(Wu).
Sorry Guide, 7th point is that spamming Gan Ning's C5 is tricky, but the reach is incredible. Gan Ning's 4th attack has large position movement. Allowing him to make his C5 hit the back of the officers. 4th point is even if no 2x attack and musou rage, Gan Ning can kill any commanders in one musou if frozen up against the wall even using light weapon. 5th point, Zhou Tai's C1 is invincible, but he has no charge attack which has large areas.
6) Zhou Tai needs Fire Orb to kill officer with normal musou if you want him to have perfect def and longer reach to fill safer. Gan Ning can do a one-musou offense without freezing the officer, 2-run-through, consistently.
7) Gan Ning is better at 1 vs 1 because after using C5 burning the officer, he can use his normal attack to juggle endlessly. Zhou Tai is pretty good on Mt. Qi, but not as good as Gan Ning because he can spam C5 consistently and safely, especially facing multi-officer.
5) ehh...if you want to get REALLY technical, Zhou Tai is a safer filler, because he is one of the only three characters in the game that has an invincible C1. The Dragon Arms can make this move very abusable for near perfect defense. On the other hand, Gan Ning can always get shot if there are lots of archer towers or groups surrounding him. One good application of this is trying to charge into crowds outside of Mai Castle without first getting rid of archers.
6) Hmmm if you give Zhou Tai the Way of Musou instead, he can rely on his True Musou to do a quick KO. Gan Ning should be considered to have a consistent musou offense, at least for tier list comparison purposes, but ideally, because of obstacles or walls, sometimes it may be tough to connect his musou consistently. But again....this is another very minor difference....probably not useful for drawing meaningful conclusions between the two characters
Here are the evidences why Gan Ning is better than Zhou Tai.
1) Gan Ning has better filling ability than Zhou Tai.
2) Gan Ning can kill officers faster. Faster offense.
3) Gan Ning has way higher KO rate.
4) Any officers, even commanders, are frozen beside the wall, Gan Ning can kill in one musou in a very short amount of time, even he uses light weapon (4th weapon).
5) Gan Ning can fill safer because Zhou Tai's C3 is not consistently safe, unless he uses Dragon Arm.
2) Yes. Gan Ning is much faster, provided his musou is controlled properly. His Musou strength is stronger than Zhou Tai's, who actually has the worst grounded musou strength in the game.
3) Hmm...yes I would say this is correct.
4) Hahahaha very true. Not much of a useful advantage in terms of comparison worth, but this is still an advantage that Gan Ning has.
@calbee219 Thanks for your reply. I am by no means a DW expert. I'm currently playing DW5XL, so naturally it has the menu of about 20 battles, starting with the Struggle for the Book & ending with the Nan Zhong battle. Are you saying that if I load the original it will give me the menu shown above, rather than the 5XL menu?
Thanks for the info. You've done a great job with all your scenes here. I dont get to play the game much, so I struggle, not knowing how to get all the cut scenes.
@TonyUSATony Nah, it'll give you a whole new menu which is the same as Free Mode menu from DW5. You just load the disc in and XL will load all the stages so that you can play them in XL. What's nice with this is that you can play these Free Mode stages with XL items and changed game mechanics.
@TonyUSATony It is DW5XL, if you also own DW5, there's the option of "Load Original" that allows you to place DW5 into DW5XL's menu. It's actually pretty cool, you should stop by GameStop & buy the Original & XL.
@1GookSTAH Thanks. I had played one of the earlier versions a few years ago, and used the "Load Original" option. I stopped playing for a few years, and forgot about that feature, and also forgot that it works in that way. Also, I've heard that in DW5XL an enemy officer can be slain in just one hit. Like I said, I'm just a shmuck still learning these older games, so I haven't really found the talent to do that. It would really help me in getting Ma Chao's 4th weapon.
Foolish? Well when there's a child screaming, someone has to shut them up, and I'm telling you to calm down for acting like a CHILD over a name and a game character. I'm the child now? You're the one raging and cursing. Now that's childish.
I don't care who you're talking to, you're still making a big deal out of something that shouldn't be. Even now you're raging. Like I said, calm the fuck down child. >_>
I'm telling him to calm down. >_> The same goes for you. The "not so big deal" is him having a character named Locke and customized. And he's going apeshit over it. Therefor I'm telling him to calm down and you come and do the same shit. MY god.. people these days.
Here's a hint i learned while using Gan Nings style, if you are gunna use his musco on a officer make sure your surround so even if u don't hit the officer you still hit the weak peasants :)
I last remembered u get red hare on the lvl hu lao gate and play as Lu Bu and u beat Three Brothers " Lu Bei , Guan Yu , and zhang Fei, but u have to beat Guan Yu And Zhang Fei first bc if u beat Lu Bei first they will retreat but it wont be a time limit though
to get free mode u need the regular dynasty warriors 5 disc then go to load original and switch ur extreme legends one to the regular and when it tells u to switch bak do it and u have free and musou mode
Theres a thing or two about Gan Ning's musou , everytime when i use his musou its hard to hit the enemy bc when i miss it makes me keep circling around him a causes me to mess up , so i have to be careful
dude with fill ganning is a beast! he at least should be in sunjian's tier, holy cao cao~ btw i think zhoutai deserves higher if given fill, or did u already have it on weapon?
Im pretty sure his 4th weapon has Fill, which made me sad, cuz his C1 + Dragon Arms is just so good, but a little slow. And I can't make room for Ginseng.
Gan Ning....he can't kill playables in one musou....but unless he uses Ice.....
Damn it, it goes back to that gradual bullshit again.
But hmmm that 60% inconsistency can probably be outweighed by his musou filling consistency, because large crowds isn't an issue for him, but it harsh is for Lu Meng
It still seems logical to have Lu Meng in the same tier as Sun Jian because they are completely of the same type, but just that Lu Meng is slightly inferior in a lot of scenarios.
And if Gan Ning has just 60% chance in killing playables in one musou, but has pretty perfect musou filling consistency, and on the other hand, Lu Meng kills playables in one musou at 100% but gets his musou filling fucked up if crowds get too big.....
Yep, Gan Ning shouldn't be a tier lower than Sun Jian
Hehe i finally got this game last week, after 2 years of grinding on DW5. Just wondering, which stage is best to find Power-Up's? I'm trying to max my weapon on my CAW.
first of all..is this dw5 or dw5xl? and second, how DID u make ur own chars? and third...how did u add those combos after his charge in the beginning of the video?
May I ask the question of why you used a Custom Warrior with Gan Ning's moveset instead of the actual Gan Ning?
I would assume doing that would give an innaccurate result, possibly due to base stat differences (SW1 had customisable CAW stats, not sure if you can in DW5).
The reason he used an edit character was because in Destiny mode, you can receive a third weapon from the officer you choose to serve under.
But this 3rd weapon will have five slots for attributes instead of the usual four you can find maximum. So he can reset the last mission in that mode until he gets a weapon with stats he needs.
Sort of. The edit characters start off with default stats indicated by either the moveset default (character made in Edit Mode), or by the resulting stats when you finish serving a whole term (Character made in Destiny Mode).
So after a while, a CAW's stats can be equal to, or with the right weapon, greater than the original Officer's abilities. So it will let you create an optimized version of an officers moveset.
Save for the less power due to not being a fourth but that's negligible damage.
omfg he sux without fill! in empires i had 40 fill for this bitch and he owns like krazy, definitly top tier cuz he fills with one c1 sometimes and with luck bonus he can just run through the whole fucking stage it's so much ownage. damn why didnt u save that musou rage for caopi? definitly not as his best at the end there, such a struggle hahaha
EPIC OWNAGE!!! man u are really good at this game..i question: Do u really lvl your characters up and get those wepons or quickly use a gameshark kinda thing??
He's pretty much trying to point out how disrespectful it can get to ask such a question to people like me or him lol.
For this character yes, I went through Destiny Mode to make this character and to get that 5 slotted 3rd weapon. I did this for a lot of movesets. Half the time though, I use the Internal Time Trick. I dont think this passes as a cheat really.
well..like for my ps2 version have 7 characters maxed.like im not saying its not possible to max every character out but i would take a really long time..and thats why im not getting the last acheivment for DW6
I always have trouble using his musou without flying around in circles and missing my targets :I
potco133 1 month ago
@potco133 I don't have any problems at controlling Gan Ning's musou unless obstacles present. You need to find a creative way to control his musou and get use to it.
davidchen128 3 weeks ago
@davidchen128 Well for me it is hard to control. Sometimes I may hit the enemy officer head on, but sometimes I just pass right beside them and miss. So yeah I'm not used to the speedy musou sword like most are.
potco133 3 weeks ago
@potco133 But consider Gan Ning is played to be the best, there is no reason to say that Gan Ning's musou is stupid. His musou is still quite good. Did you steer CCW as you approach your target? Did you give him the musou length like it is shown in this video?
davidchen128 3 weeks ago
@potco133 But for me, it's very easy to control.
davidchen128 3 weeks ago
im so happy. i just made a CAW of gan ning and i got really close to the perfect weapon. Medium weight with att, mus, fill, charge, and luck. If luck was speed i would've been extatic. and i got it first try so i didn't have to redo the stage :D
hamahama23ify 3 months ago
@hamahama23ify Can you try him with heavy weapon. I don't know how to set up Internal Time Trick. I think you should give him internal time trick heavy weapon with ATK, SPD, CHARGE, MUS. He can kill playable officers in one musou w/ o Ice. I think Gan Ning is not an impressive freezer. C3 is a good method of filling. Dragon Arm is a must for safe C3 execution. C3 has long reach and high height. If everything is in front of him, C3 should be safe.
davidchen128 2 months ago
@davidchen128 perhaps. but later. i accidently deleted ALL of the data on my ps2 card. :(((((((((. so i gotta start all over. but once everythings back, sure
hamahama23ify 2 months ago
OMFG XU ZHU!! Anyone that comes near me is going to die!
lightsora314 4 months ago
lol taking cao pi's horse at the end ftw
mikeybU1 6 months ago
U are a bad ass!!!!
RAMBOO2159 9 months ago
If you consider 6 hits total, Sun Jian is actually worse than him. Also, he can overwhelm most of the character you mentioned, except Zuo Ci
davidchen128 9 months ago
Maybe 50% officer killing, 20% crowd clearing, and 30% multi officer killing.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128 officer killing includes multiples, crowd clearing isnt a big deal as the goal in this game as well as in wars is to kill enemy commanders (neat how in this game killing officers will also leave peons defenseless and harmless, easy targets?). anyways, whoever can do this the most efficient will be ranked higher in this tier, good news is after rewatching i think if ganning does come up w/ a way to kill playables in one musou he'll get a raise, as this vid was done w/ no fill bonus.
mukamuka123 10 months ago
@mukamuka123 Gan Ning can fill safely and quickly to fill his 600-long musou w/ o fill bonus. Guide tells me that he is currently top 15.
davidchen128 10 months ago
@mukamuka123 Actually, they are somewhat different. eg) Cao Ren is a good officer killer, but he is terrible against multi. Also Zhang He is mediocre against officers, but pretty good against multi compare to others.
davidchen128 10 months ago
@mukamuka123 But anyway, I hope Gan Ning is a Top Tier character again in DW7
davidchen128 10 months ago
@CaptainSparrow92 Yes, edit character Gan Ning's moveset.
davidchen128 11 months ago
Also, even if there are no soldiers, he does not need to use musou. He can use C5 to buffed officers. Then use 5 normal moves endlessly. Defeating Lu Bu in Struggle for the Book must use C5 and then endless combo. Gan Ning is my favorite character because DW3 is the first DW games I played. Since Gan Ning is the #1 who is way better than Cao Cao the #2 in DW3, I admire him. His musou is unique and strong since DW3
davidchen128 11 months ago
Both Zhou Tai and Zhao Yun are top tier, but Gan Ning is better than both.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
Wait.....top tier? in this game?
No, not even close.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide Sorry. I mean both Zhou Tai and Zhao Yun are high tier, but Gan Ning and Ling Tong is better than both. The only characters better than Gan Ning are ZGL, Lu Bu, Ma Chao, Ling Tong in this game.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
Hmmm....gotta be a bit careful here.
You are meaning DW5 XL, with full weapon customization, and Chaos Mode?
You are right that Zhuge Liang and Lu Bu are better than Gan Ning and Ling Tong, but they aren't the only characters that are better. Also, if you ban horse combat, Ma Chao isn't really better than Gan Ning, but rather equal.
I'm resuming the Tier List, and the top few tiers are pretty much set, and I have videos of most of them.
Have a look at Pang De's for starters
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@davidchen128
Ignoring all the details, Pang De has a fairly consistent musou filling method, and a Musou that will kill even playable officers in one Musou. Against all these stronger opponents and enemy commanders, Pang De has a clear edge over Gan Ning. Besides Pang De, there are plenty of other characters that have a stronger offense than Gan Ning - Zuo Ci, Sun Jian, Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, Zhang Liao, Lu Meng.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide I agree that Zuo Ci can be better than Gan Ning because of good filling ability(C4) KO rate, yet the other characters you mentioned has a large gap of KO rate between Gan Ning and them. Lu Meng and Sun Jian can kill playable officers in a musou, yet they have filling issues, so they are not as good. I agree that they can have stronger offenses, but their filling ability and safety and KO rate is not as good. Pang De's C6 is consistent and safe at filling.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
Have you seen the videos for Lu Meng and Sun Jian?
Sorry....my videos aren't organized very well, and some vid descriptions aren't present.
Both Lu Meng and Sun Jian have very unique ways of consistent and fast Musou filling - fast enough to equal Gan Ning's efforts.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide Yes I do. Most of your videos
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
A note on KO rate - It has been agreed in the Tier List community that Crowd Clearing is given much less credit than Officer Killing ability. What's typically agreed is 80% Officers and 20% Crowds. So for an overall Tier List, we make two Tier List and combine them with a bit of math. However....you might note that it is less professional as the method for determining this is very subjective.
Give me time, I will come up with a more numeric way of justifying this in the future
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide Oh I forgot to mention another point. Last time in Conquest of Nanzhong chaos mode, I destroyed three jugglernauts in one musou. He is considered one of the best at killing weapons, such as siege towers in Guan Du.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
Also, there seems to be a clear cutoff point for characters that can and can't kill playable officers in one Musou. This difference in offense is enough to create a point of tier separation in the tier list.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
The safety and speed of offense is not a big difference between Gan Ning and Zhou Tai, but Gan Ning has almost twice as high as Zhou Tai in KO rate, so I consider Gan Ning is a higher tier.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
VERY true here.
In an Officer Killing Tier List, Gan Ning is close to Zhou Tai, but not in a Crowd Clearing Tier List.
Are you familiar with the Warriors Orochi Tier List?
That's the first Tier List, where I put my new methods of tier list combination using some simple math.
Officer Killing Tier List
Crowd Clearing Tier List
Overall Tier List
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide I agree that the characters you mentioned has stronger offense than Gan Ning, but their KO rates are only about half as high as Gan Ning. Maybe it's better to put 70% at Officer Killing and 30% at Crowd Clearing. Taishi Ci can kill very fast, but he is extremely weak at crowd clearing. I would consider Meng Huo is better than Taishi Ci even though Meng Huo is the weakest at officer killing.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide Lu Meng, Sun Jian, Liu Bei, Yuan Shao, Zhang Liao has about the same filling speed withe Gan Ning, but Gan Ning has way safer filling due to his invincible C6. If 5 hits in two run through occurs, this allows Gan Ning to kill playable officers in one musou
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
I don't think it's a good argument to say Gan Ning's fill is better just from the invincible C6. It's only invincible on the execution, and that's only a small part of his Musou filling method.
Let me know if you can consistently do more hits with Gan Ning's Musou than I can.
I will have to make an update for Gan Ning, if that's the case.
It would be best if you could demonstrate it.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide I just want to say thanks to you for discussing this. Also w/ Musou Rage, Gan Ning is incredible against multi-officers, even buffed officers. He can kill more than one buffed officer at the same time in Mt. Qi with Musou Rage w/ ease. When defeating DD Sima Yi in Mt. Qi, Gan Ning can use C5 and endless juggle. The other characters have to procrastinate until musou is filled, unless they equip fire orb.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide You have already done a very good job in this video. Because it sounds like Gan Ning has many unusual strengths, so I just put some comments on. Some of my comments might not be practical. Sorry.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide how about a musou +40 setup?
dw5chaosfan 1 month ago
5) and 6) If you want to fill with perfect defense w/ Zhou Tai, C1 spamming will be slow. Filling with C3 is risky unless using Dragon Arm. Gan Ning's C6 fills safer than Zhou Tai's C3. If you want to use true musou and do 1-musou offense and longer reach, Dragon Arm can not be used. W/ Dragon arm and wind scroll, he can not equip way of musou. To do a one-musou offense, he must use Fire orb and use C3 to burn the officer and apply to normal musou.
davidchen128 11 months ago
continue.
8) Zhou Tai's musou can be the weakest, so he will struggle against weapons, such as jugglernauts. Gan Ning is the best at killing weapons since this will allow his every single attack hit successfully, and his musou frequency is way higher than Zhou Tai, and his individual strike is about 6x stronger than Zhou Tai. Gan Ning can kill castle weapons in 5-star chaos mode in one musou, having 800 HP. We can see it at Bai Di castle(Wu).
davidchen128 11 months ago
Sorry Guide, 7th point is that spamming Gan Ning's C5 is tricky, but the reach is incredible. Gan Ning's 4th attack has large position movement. Allowing him to make his C5 hit the back of the officers. 4th point is even if no 2x attack and musou rage, Gan Ning can kill any commanders in one musou if frozen up against the wall even using light weapon. 5th point, Zhou Tai's C1 is invincible, but he has no charge attack which has large areas.
davidchen128 11 months ago
6) Zhou Tai needs Fire Orb to kill officer with normal musou if you want him to have perfect def and longer reach to fill safer. Gan Ning can do a one-musou offense without freezing the officer, 2-run-through, consistently.
7) Gan Ning is better at 1 vs 1 because after using C5 burning the officer, he can use his normal attack to juggle endlessly. Zhou Tai is pretty good on Mt. Qi, but not as good as Gan Ning because he can spam C5 consistently and safely, especially facing multi-officer.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
5) ehh...if you want to get REALLY technical, Zhou Tai is a safer filler, because he is one of the only three characters in the game that has an invincible C1. The Dragon Arms can make this move very abusable for near perfect defense. On the other hand, Gan Ning can always get shot if there are lots of archer towers or groups surrounding him. One good application of this is trying to charge into crowds outside of Mai Castle without first getting rid of archers.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@davidchen128
6) Hmmm if you give Zhou Tai the Way of Musou instead, he can rely on his True Musou to do a quick KO. Gan Ning should be considered to have a consistent musou offense, at least for tier list comparison purposes, but ideally, because of obstacles or walls, sometimes it may be tough to connect his musou consistently. But again....this is another very minor difference....probably not useful for drawing meaningful conclusions between the two characters
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
@davidchen128
7) VERY GOOD point. Now this is something worth considering when comparing the two.
But um.....how is Gan Ning able to abuse C5 in Mt Qi?
His C5 has considerable risks during the execution, and I don't think Mt Qi presents very many 1-on-1 scenarios
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
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davidchen128 11 months ago
Here are the evidences why Gan Ning is better than Zhou Tai.
1) Gan Ning has better filling ability than Zhou Tai.
2) Gan Ning can kill officers faster. Faster offense.
3) Gan Ning has way higher KO rate.
4) Any officers, even commanders, are frozen beside the wall, Gan Ning can kill in one musou in a very short amount of time, even he uses light weapon (4th weapon).
5) Gan Ning can fill safer because Zhou Tai's C3 is not consistently safe, unless he uses Dragon Arm.
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128
1) Yes. In perhaps all important scenarios.
2) Yes. Gan Ning is much faster, provided his musou is controlled properly. His Musou strength is stronger than Zhou Tai's, who actually has the worst grounded musou strength in the game.
3) Hmm...yes I would say this is correct.
4) Hahahaha very true. Not much of a useful advantage in terms of comparison worth, but this is still an advantage that Gan Ning has.
DW5chaosmodeguide 11 months ago
you seem to always use 3rd weapons. is there a reason? are lvl 4 weapons unmodifiable or something? O_o im confused...
1337n00b1995 11 months ago
@1337n00b1995 Well Gan Ning has terrible 4th weapon. so thats why
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128 even so, he uses a lot of 3rd weapons in his vids, and they all have +20 stats.
I was wondering if that you couldn't change the stats on a 4th weapon was one of the reasons he does that.
1337n00b1995 11 months ago
@1337n00b1995 He uses 3rd weapon for people who have bad 4th weapons
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128 jeez no one is answering my question!!! are fourth weapons modifiable???
1337n00b1995 11 months ago
@1337n00b1995 no 4th weaps are not modifiable
davidchen128 11 months ago
@davidchen128 thank you.
1337n00b1995 11 months ago
Wow Gan Ning has godly KO rate.
davidchen128 1 year ago
Great scene, but this is definitely not DW5XL. Maybe DW5, though.
Cuz XL does not have the Free mode. Nice post though. Good job.
TonyUSATony 1 year ago
@TonyUSATony you can load original to play free mode in XL
calbee219 1 year ago
@calbee219 Thanks for your reply. I am by no means a DW expert. I'm currently playing DW5XL, so naturally it has the menu of about 20 battles, starting with the Struggle for the Book & ending with the Nan Zhong battle. Are you saying that if I load the original it will give me the menu shown above, rather than the 5XL menu?
Thanks for the info. You've done a great job with all your scenes here. I dont get to play the game much, so I struggle, not knowing how to get all the cut scenes.
Thanks.
TonyUSATony 1 year ago
@TonyUSATony Nah, it'll give you a whole new menu which is the same as Free Mode menu from DW5. You just load the disc in and XL will load all the stages so that you can play them in XL. What's nice with this is that you can play these Free Mode stages with XL items and changed game mechanics.
Thanks for watching
calbee219 1 year ago
@TonyUSATony It is DW5XL, if you also own DW5, there's the option of "Load Original" that allows you to place DW5 into DW5XL's menu. It's actually pretty cool, you should stop by GameStop & buy the Original & XL.
1GookSTAH 1 year ago
@1GookSTAH Thanks. I had played one of the earlier versions a few years ago, and used the "Load Original" option. I stopped playing for a few years, and forgot about that feature, and also forgot that it works in that way. Also, I've heard that in DW5XL an enemy officer can be slain in just one hit. Like I said, I'm just a shmuck still learning these older games, so I haven't really found the talent to do that. It would really help me in getting Ma Chao's 4th weapon.
Play Hard!
TonyUSATony 1 year ago
He is stronger than Zhou Tai
davidchen128 1 year ago
Gan Ning is potentially #1 in this game
davidchen128 1 year ago
someone know any site i can buy unused Dynasty warriors 3 PAL version?
tyson391 1 year ago
which emulator did you use for this, as my emulator is really slow, I love this game and really want to play it again as both my ps2 broke down
chickenleg2 1 year ago
it is not gan ning
kornfan95336 1 year ago
Wait a second, U can make a Custom warrior on DW5XL?
GTV2005 1 year ago
@GTV2005 yup
thepujman17 1 year ago
@thepujman17
Awsume
GTV2005 1 year ago
Ahhhhh Wind Scroll, always so much fun :)
friggenhurts703 1 year ago
how did you get a good weaponn like ethat?
faith1010101 1 year ago
wow...you own.
Niactz 1 year ago
could some1 message me on here or even post and tell me how toaccess the generic" weapons such as the "Eclipse"
AcidAlchemyProject 1 year ago
This isn't Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends, because in This isn't Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends there is legend mode not free mode...
lassi171717 1 year ago
you suck
xpromisemeee 1 year ago
Sup yer gud... nice vid
rdp23mvp 1 year ago
oh your good...real good...
ShadowKnight455 2 years ago
How do you get such good weapons???
Calvingreen17 2 years ago
because he works hard...unlike me...ive lost my spark and sometimes lose at DW5
ShadowKnight455 2 years ago
oh my God I Love This Game ^^
TheMetinStar 2 years ago
wat i have this game but wtf i havent got free mode????? help plz?!?!?!?!
lolnarutosage 2 years ago
Why the luck on his weapon i thought luck made you better at getting weapons and items shit like that
Desmond21228 2 years ago
Cause it's annoying to see people like you.
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
Foolish? Well when there's a child screaming, someone has to shut them up, and I'm telling you to calm down for acting like a CHILD over a name and a game character. I'm the child now? You're the one raging and cursing. Now that's childish.
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
I don't care who you're talking to, you're still making a big deal out of something that shouldn't be. Even now you're raging. Like I said, calm the fuck down child. >_>
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
@TotallyWickedAwsum
everyone gets mad once in a while u son of a bitch
not just kids
FUCKING ASSWIPE
crosser8 2 years ago
dang u a pro at this game i woulda gotten slaughtered :(
kingrichie50 2 years ago 2
lol don't feel bad... i was that close to killing Lu Bu in Chaos then an arrow hit me :(
doodoobeatle 2 years ago
Not that big of a deal really, so please calm the fuck down. o.o
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
if its not that big of a deal then no point telling him to calm down u wanker
crosser8 2 years ago
Then why say anything retard? >_>
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
what hes talking about is not big of a deal
but you take it too far and talk trash
thats why?...
crosser8 2 years ago
I'm telling him to calm down. >_> The same goes for you. The "not so big deal" is him having a character named Locke and customized. And he's going apeshit over it. Therefor I'm telling him to calm down and you come and do the same shit. MY god.. people these days.
TotallyWickedAwsum 2 years ago
i want to know how to unlock gan ning
HelainaHope 2 years ago
this game look the same like D.W 6 Xtreme Legend that i have play on Xbox 360
kanetidus 2 years ago
can you use the weapon you made in xtreme mode to play in free/musou/destiny mode?
videowatcher93 2 years ago
i like this game..i created my own charracter and play.noy my chracter is a Major
driftkid96 2 years ago
cool!
ZhaoYun2009 2 years ago
how do you dash like that at 1:05? I got the game used without the handbook
WilsonGuitar 2 years ago
i wanted untouched
pagpmike 2 years ago
is it me or gan nings musou got slower compared to dw 4
theomegachibiboy 2 years ago 2
Here's a hint i learned while using Gan Nings style, if you are gunna use his musco on a officer make sure your surround so even if u don't hit the officer you still hit the weak peasants :)
GHOSTLYCO 2 years ago
or master it so you don't miss officers.
calbee219 2 years ago 2
can anyone help me how do i get this screen like him and in so good quality and sry for the comment before was not my plan
folinym 2 years ago
can
folinym 2 years ago
I last remembered u get red hare on the lvl hu lao gate and play as Lu Bu and u beat Three Brothers " Lu Bei , Guan Yu , and zhang Fei, but u have to beat Guan Yu And Zhang Fei first bc if u beat Lu Bei first they will retreat but it wont be a time limit though
potco133 2 years ago
how do u get horse
FareezalGarcia 2 years ago
press x
driftkid96 2 years ago
to get free mode u need the regular dynasty warriors 5 disc then go to load original and switch ur extreme legends one to the regular and when it tells u to switch bak do it and u have free and musou mode
franciscolouise101 2 years ago
how do u get free mode?
stardustx1997 2 years ago
how do you get free mode?
cutiepie584576 2 years ago
Sometimes idk why other characters that are on ur side or the enemy have an extra bar of health
potco133 2 years ago
i just got this game yesterday, so how do you get Free Mode cause its annoying starting over with a new character.
j483968823 2 years ago
Theres a thing or two about Gan Ning's musou , everytime when i use his musou its hard to hit the enemy bc when i miss it makes me keep circling around him a causes me to mess up , so i have to be careful
potco133 2 years ago
Wow hes good
potco133 2 years ago
this is not un the chaos mode !!!!!!!!!!!!!
silverlucasguitar 2 years ago
yes it is
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
@DW5chaosmodeguide You are so great at using Gan Ning's musou in DW5. It is challenging.
davidchen128 1 year ago
@silverlucasguitar lol yes it is look closley ......... it shows it so clear cuze dw5chaosmodeguide owns with his supaclear vids : P
Malta343 1 year ago
u used ghang nings weapon
HARRISON218 2 years ago
Isnt Locke a character from Final fantasy 6 also as terra ??
OniramKenobi 2 years ago
I guess so, Jonny names his edit characters based on Final Fantasy :/
gold3263301 2 years ago
lol I think Cao Ren is the one that lost his mind :P
gold3263301 2 years ago
You used an awesome combo against Cao Pi: C5 - C3 - JC ^_^
andreacirri 2 years ago
is da only way to power up karacters in DW 5: Xl to find da scrolls and use dem on karacters?
boomboom1231234 2 years ago
in this game, yes.
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
dude with fill ganning is a beast! he at least should be in sunjian's tier, holy cao cao~ btw i think zhoutai deserves higher if given fill, or did u already have it on weapon?
cleedrulez 2 years ago
Im pretty sure his 4th weapon has Fill, which made me sad, cuz his C1 + Dragon Arms is just so good, but a little slow. And I can't make room for Ginseng.
Gan Ning....he can't kill playables in one musou....but unless he uses Ice.....
Damn it, it goes back to that gradual bullshit again.
But hmmm that 60% inconsistency can probably be outweighed by his musou filling consistency, because large crowds isn't an issue for him, but it harsh is for Lu Meng
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
do without wind scroll for ginsen, but is his long musou able to kill generics or even playables? zhoutai i'm talking about
i have a feeling he cant but ya, his def is pretty perfect with dragon arms that's why i suggest taking out wind, did u already do that tho?
cleedrulez 2 years ago
bro dis isnt Xtreme Legend!!! is da original DW 5. x D
boomboom1231234 2 years ago
This is XL with the Free Mode stages loaded in
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
It still seems logical to have Lu Meng in the same tier as Sun Jian because they are completely of the same type, but just that Lu Meng is slightly inferior in a lot of scenarios.
And if Gan Ning has just 60% chance in killing playables in one musou, but has pretty perfect musou filling consistency, and on the other hand, Lu Meng kills playables in one musou at 100% but gets his musou filling fucked up if crowds get too big.....
Yep, Gan Ning shouldn't be a tier lower than Sun Jian
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
oh he has fill already? shit that's brutal =(
ya i agree but then ganning wouldnt be as high as sunjian cuz playables, but pretty close since sunjian cant get his grounded musou 100% anyways
cleedrulez 2 years ago
Hehe i finally got this game last week, after 2 years of grinding on DW5. Just wondering, which stage is best to find Power-Up's? I'm trying to max my weapon on my CAW.
ilikehaku1100 2 years ago
Shi Ting
calbee219 2 years ago
got him lookin like a faggot
avery336 2 years ago
sick ass game......i need to buy this game quick
kingbryan65 2 years ago
I gave my Gan Ning CAW an Afro
Sweetbinky44 2 years ago
first of all..is this dw5 or dw5xl? and second, how DID u make ur own chars? and third...how did u add those combos after his charge in the beginning of the video?
videowatcher93 2 years ago
1) XL
2) Make one in Edit Mode or Destiny Mode, in this case, Destiny Mode
3) Equip the Dragon Arms. This allows you to jump when executing a charge attack
calbee219 2 years ago
I have XL but no DW5.
Is that the reason that i don`t have this level?
hesstarr2 2 years ago
yes
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
Would the DW5 thing work if the DW5 I have is Japanese? I don't wanna waste another 40 bucks buyingthe english version :(
gold3263301 2 years ago
Thank you very much for answer me!! And your video kick ass!! is just awesome!
hesstarr2 2 years ago
how do u go unlock edit mode??
poboinik 2 years ago
w8 , wtf. How you made your own characters ? I must be missing something lol
BelowZero16 2 years ago
wow that C3 plus charge jump to Cao Pi was impresive :)
SuperStarTidus18 2 years ago
i have aquestion which is better dw5 or 4?
SpArTaNWaRRiOr8 2 years ago
Good strategy equipping Dragon Arms on Gan Ning :)
Hares999 2 years ago
u play chaos mode like its easy mode lol
Melthrema2 2 years ago
May I ask the question of why you used a Custom Warrior with Gan Ning's moveset instead of the actual Gan Ning?
I would assume doing that would give an innaccurate result, possibly due to base stat differences (SW1 had customisable CAW stats, not sure if you can in DW5).
theinsanething 2 years ago
I doesn`t make diference... thats the reason. Hope i have help you.
hesstarr2 2 years ago
The reason he used an edit character was because in Destiny mode, you can receive a third weapon from the officer you choose to serve under.
But this 3rd weapon will have five slots for attributes instead of the usual four you can find maximum. So he can reset the last mission in that mode until he gets a weapon with stats he needs.
This weapon can be better than the fourth.
Saestrol 2 years ago
totally right.
339439366 2 years ago
I see. That's the only difference in Maximization, correct? The stat growth for the CaW would be the same as the character whom's moveset it has?
theinsanething 2 years ago
Sort of. The edit characters start off with default stats indicated by either the moveset default (character made in Edit Mode), or by the resulting stats when you finish serving a whole term (Character made in Destiny Mode).
So after a while, a CAW's stats can be equal to, or with the right weapon, greater than the original Officer's abilities. So it will let you create an optimized version of an officers moveset.
Save for the less power due to not being a fourth but that's negligible damage.
Saestrol 2 years ago
That 18 Hit Combo on Cao Pi is most impressive.
Saestrol 2 years ago 2
haha i miss this game.
339439366 2 years ago
omfg he sux without fill! in empires i had 40 fill for this bitch and he owns like krazy, definitly top tier cuz he fills with one c1 sometimes and with luck bonus he can just run through the whole fucking stage it's so much ownage. damn why didnt u save that musou rage for caopi? definitly not as his best at the end there, such a struggle hahaha
cleedrulez 2 years ago
which are the effects of green scroll and the dragon arms??
calamitus600 2 years ago
GameFAQs
tetsuo9999 2 years ago 2
i know,but i cant find it there
cant you just tell me??
calamitus600 2 years ago
Green Scroll increases your attack but also decreases your defense.
Equipping Dragons Arms will make you able to jump during your attack.
ZhaoYun8892 2 years ago
ok,thanks
i assume that the green scroll is the power rune of dw4...right?
calamitus600 2 years ago
Nice combo at the end.
tetsuo9999 2 years ago 2
yeah dragon arms! gj
cleedrulez 2 years ago
Amazing! I aplaud thee! *claps*
ff7pianist 2 years ago
EPIC OWNAGE!!! man u are really good at this game..i question: Do u really lvl your characters up and get those wepons or quickly use a gameshark kinda thing??
gundams33dd3stiny 2 years ago
Yes, because everyone who maxes out characters on games is obviously a cheater.
tetsuo9999 2 years ago
You mean gamesharks? -__-"
But everyone who levels their characters without gamesharks aren't cheaters. -__-"
aquamak3r 2 years ago
lol Tetsuo's being sarcastic as usual here.
He's pretty much trying to point out how disrespectful it can get to ask such a question to people like me or him lol.
For this character yes, I went through Destiny Mode to make this character and to get that 5 slotted 3rd weapon. I did this for a lot of movesets. Half the time though, I use the Internal Time Trick. I dont think this passes as a cheat really.
DW5chaosmodeguide 2 years ago
well..like for my ps2 version have 7 characters maxed.like im not saying its not possible to max every character out but i would take a really long time..and thats why im not getting the last acheivment for DW6
gundams33dd3stiny 2 years ago
That achievement isn't too bad really. Just try to stick with one character per day.
seanb91 2 years ago