Киокушин задолбит любого только надо обязательно быть разносторонним бойцом, знать и броски, и удушающие приемы, а так же удары в голову руками. Это все, в принципе, любому хорошему бойцу необходимо уметь проводить во время боя.)))
pat smith isn't taekwondo fighter.he's thai boxer,because i remember his fights on ufc against royce gracie in 90-s.andy is one of the best kyokushin fighters
@rusmontagnard Pat SMit is originally a TKD blackbelt who went on to crosstrain in other styles and arts. He competed in MMA, kickboxing, karate, Thaiboxing and later even regular Boxing. But his base was TKD.
@andy59tube So how come that in most fights where it's standup rules (lets not even talk about MMA) the taekwondo fighter ALWAYS loses, except that one obvious promo video where the tkd guy demolishes some guy with muscles in muay thai shorts, with the stupid promo music in the background... the muay thai looked like he'd never been in a real muay thai fight before, but in every other vid, the TKD guy loses?
Kyokushin's like a kickboxing thing, itz awesome and gr8 for fighting in tournaments. But how do we defend ourselves in street attacks with it? no grabbing or submission holds! what do we do if multiple ppl come attacking together? The kicks aren't of long range enuf like that of
TKD or Kung Fu, so how do we save ourselves? :| ... No offence really, I'd just be glad if any kyokushin practitioner answers me. Thanks in advance :)
Well, I do have to say most videos I see of professionals TKD fighters are bad under pressure if they don't have enough room to kick or if their kicks are blocked. They seem to panic and don't know what to do
@TheDavidc1 No it's not. Karate has its roots from very very many martial arts and from different variations. But kyokushin itself is mostly from goju-ryu and shotokan karate. Oyama was korean. I guess most of his life he was japanese.
@TheDavidc1 Yes Oyama was born in korea, but he never learned any korean art except Ssireum (korean folk wrestling similar to sumo). He certainly never learned Taekyeon.
He learned a little kempo (a few months worth ) while staying with relatives in Manchuria as a small child one summer, but claimed to remember little about it except that it was mostly elbows and headbutts.
Kyokushin is based on the shotokan and gojuryu karate he learned in Japan.
davethenuttymagician tae kwon do is a ful system with all the bits the others have locks throws etc and ive been following the ufc since fight one with ken shamrock ,hoyce gracie etc and how can you say no power?
@peter2897 Yes you are 100% right, but there are so many styles that spending time to practice loads of crap techniques that wont work in real fights. Speed, timing, balance, strength and the ability to read the opponent usually win. Kyokushin is my style, It has no fancy dance moves, it wont look good in Hollywood movies, we don´t do the Kung Fu waving with our arms like helicopters and make funny Bruce Lee sounds. The Kyokushin style is simply ugly, but quite efficient with the right guy.
i would get hardcore kyokushin fighter, teach him in taekwondo so he can refine kicks and at the same time get him to box classicaly and afterwards muay thai.
after all that you have a complete standup fighter. strong-precise-allarounder-fast and can take a punch kick and whatever you send his way.
@Davethenuttymagician Which is why people get broken ribs through Vests, in TKD Compeititons. And furthermore, lets not generalise the WTF Competition forms with Formal KKW Standard TKD, and ITF TKD.
Otherwise, we may as well say that Karate Fighters dont learn Head Punching just because it isnt in their Competitions. And then make Shotokan and Kyokushin Spar each other.
Tae Kwon Do Karate is good if you want to win trophies in point tournaments or compete in the olympics. But if you want to be a fighter you need to learn Kyokushin Karate or Muay Thai.
@RuggedHawaiian Yes, which was the TKD fighter and which the Kyokushin? Need a posting. Some of the commentators know which fighter was which, but that's no help to others.
not all schools are the same.some teach combat.some sport(full,semi full,kata,ect)some teach meditation.and not all teachers or students are the same.me?shotokan,meditation.
tkd is great for balance and refining tecnique but kyokushin translates better in to street fights close combat fighting etc.. i have trained in both but kyokshin trainning is harder in terms of stress the body is put under and the hits u have to take wwek in week out i aggree with what @myraimondi is sayin but in real life if u goin to fight no one goin to give u room do all the flash 360 kicks they will be all over u grappling x
@TheCoudie TKD is good for nothing, it's useless. I've fought dozens of seasoned TKD fighters, all garbage. No ground game, no grappling, just shitty backflip kicks and shitty round kicks. Some used axe kicks, which are equally as horrible.
Why not? Surely you train in martial arts so you can make sure you have room to do any kick you want should it come to a fight. Those flashy kicks are designed to knock a person out or at the very least cause serious injury on impact, I think it's more to do with the fact that on the surface people would be too self concious to display them. I think for shy people who have no skill karate would seem more appealing because it's discreet and direct, both should be equally as effective however.
It's not just the martial art or style that makes people good fighters. It's their level of skill compared to their opponents that make them dominate.
The martial art you train in shouldn't matter as much as how you use it.
@tshk5271221 thats usually WTF taekwondo crap. ITF is different plus elbows knees low kicks and fists are all up to the fighter if he doesnt use any of that in a fight then he is just an idiot.
@myraimondi What True TKD? TKD was originally a ripoff of Japanese Karate mainly Shotokan, and then they invented a false history for themselves cause they hate the Japanese for the Occupation and now they claim their style is 2000 years old. Original TKD with the Korean Flair was a great Art but the new Olympic style is a joke and is only for people who like being Fake Black Belts cause real Karate is too hard for them.
@VladJukuKarate i don't fuking care if they claim it 2000 yrs old or 20000000yrs old that's the korean's business. I have practiced both the olympic (WTF) tkd and more original style (ITF) tkd. I know WTF is shxt and ITF looks weaker than Kyokushin. But in Noerth Korea, it's a hell of difference. U said tkd must stop those exoric spinning kicks but do u know that the purpose of practicing these kicks are not to use them in real fight, but to train their spinning moves
@VladJukuKarate and their body coordinations. For example, after practicing a 720 turning kick, your body will be more used to a vigorous spinning move and improve your leg-control. Through this u could truly master your 360 turning kick as you could achieve sth beyond that, u feel me? besides, these spinning kicks are also unique signature moves of TKD right? As for FISTS, ELBOWS, KNEES, LOW KICKS, they are all included in TKD patterns, it's just they don't practice them much cuz they won't use
@myraimondi it during contests. In the orginal TKD, they practice those way ,ore often than nowadays. I would like to point out that what nowadays tkd lack is a serious body toughness and foundations training. As to the easy black belts, try getting one in old ITF, u gotta kick your leg up to your head in 1s
@myraimondi in order to BE QUALIFIED FOR THE EXAMINATION, try doing that. P.S: Kyokshin and muay thai seems to dominate tkd on stage but it's not the truth, the stage doesn't have the distance that tkd fighters need. so actually it's a bit unfair for tkd on stage.
Yes, Andy Hug was a good fighter but also Kyokushin Karate is a much much tougher than Taekwondo. Kyokushin trains body for hard hits unlike Taekwondo. Just go and watch any Kyokushin dojo anywhere in the world and compare it to any Taekwondo dojo and you will find that Kyokushin is a real martial art but not a fancy high kicks sport.
@HawramanKurdistan you may be right, i dont honestly know. but it wasn't that ability to take hits that won the fight, it was his own way of fighting. systems can only take someone so far, in the end it was the person, not the style.
@kaikiernan I believe if you select 100 fighters from each Martial Arts style and make them compete against each other in a full contact fight, Kyukushin will come out first. My point is the system creates the fighter.
Kyukushin is not a sport or a point system, it is a kill system. It is a hurt, pain, and a pure fighting system unlike many other systems. Thanks,
@HawramanKurdistan I disagree with you on that. Kyokushin is a sport, but it's a sport that forces you into conflict like boxing. People who take up kyokushin and prosper at it generally have a similar mindset, one that accepts pain as part of the sport, generally the same mindset as boxers, kickboxers, footballers and ice hockey players. Pain is part of the game.
@GhettoSlayin724 Andy Hug was awesome, but if someone says they have a Kyokushin black belt, that means something. Tkd black belts are a dime a dozen.
@Achillies101 no disrespect, and im not trying to get in a argument that shows how stupid some people are because someone state a simple opinion, all arts have there differences, and all arts have thing alike. but when i comes down to a certain art winning, its the fighter. martial ARTS is self expression, nothing more, nothing less.
@aikidostudent1 That "expression" shit is garbage. of course its the art, why do you think there are no shitty ass TKD or aikido faggots in the UFC, IFL, or other organization i can't remember right now? Because it dosen't work, it's for show. If you think that TKD and/or aikido is anything other than a sport, you're an idiot.
@westhamboy95 Anderson Silva uses predominately Muay Thai with some Karate. That said many fighters do have a TKD background and strong kicks is a great basis for any striker.
@Pantjay yh he used it to knock out chael sonnen i think was his name and i researched anderson silva an it looks like it was a taekwondo kick instead of muay thai
@kintle182 get your facts straight! GSP started tae kwon do when he was 14 years old, the reason Aikido isnt in the UFC is because it isnt allowed! it was in pride fighting until the boxing federation bought out pride fighting and then RULES were created! another thing, aikido isnt effective in the UFC because of the pre tap put one the fighters wrist. is acts as a shield so to speak. get your facts straight dumb shit! its self "expression." some people perform certain moves better then others
@aikidostudent1 Only if the person is physically unable to do certain moves, will other moves work better. Also, aikdio dosen't work, show me a video of it working in a real scenario. Any video, NOT a demonstration video.
@kintle182 go to a local aikido gym and fight someone. i cant find a real fight but i can tell you that the reason a demonstration is a demonstration is because the attacker has to know how to role if he doesnt know how to role then the results of all the attackers in a demonstration would all have broken bones just because a fighting organization doesnt carry an art doesnt make it fake! aikido is learn and study by the Americans Japanese and the uk MILITARY this is world wide. isnt an accident!
@aikidostudent1 A martial art is a guideline, that is true, however all arts are not created equal and some can unlock a person's fighting potential better than others. If all martial arts are equal, that is like saying all food is equal, or all religions are the same. They are not. My guess is that I have more experience in tkd and kyokushin that the people arguing with me.
@Achillies101 I dont care what martial arts andy knew. What made a andy a good fighter is his will, his dedication and great technique. If Kyokushin karate is soo good. Why isn't there more fighters with that kinda karate. You know why? Cuz andy is just that good so gtfo with that shit. I cant stand ignorance or a narrow minded attitude.
@GhettoSlayin724 'Why isn't there more fighters with that kinda karate' - Sam Greco, Fransisco Filho, Glaube Feitosa, Ewerton Teixeira, Michael Thompson, Semmy Schilt?.. and that is just the ones in K1that I remember... How many is 'more' ? Andy was not the only Kyokushin stylist to do well in K1. History shows that the only style to win the K1 other than Muay Thai is Kyokushin. No one style has all the answers, but to suggest Andy was just a one off is ignorant. Where are all the TKD fighers?
@aldridge1 First of all, is that all the fighters? and Second Feitosa sucks and so does semmy schilt. Besides Micheal thompson none of those guys had the same success Hug has had not even relatively close. So don't throw fighters at me like idk wtf im talking about those fighters dont even compare to hug. I'm not even talking about tkd so stfu with that. You Kyokushin fanboy go fly a kite.
@gibson724 Considering it is not their style I would say it is alot of fighters. Also considering that they all made the K1 final against the elite of a foreign sport is also telling. Can you imagine a squash player making the wimbleton final? I am a 'fanboy' of all martialarts, not just kyokushin, but the results speak for themselves. Where are all the fighters from Shotokan, Goju, TKD etc, etc? The fact that you resort to insults when your opinion is questioned is also telling.
@aldridge1 no idiot. you jus sound fanboy hating on tdk along with all the trolls on this page. I know what im talking about. Enough with your paragraphs of nonsense.
@aikidostudent1 Please explain why I am wrong? TKD is just people who stretch a lot so they can do flashy garbage kicks. Kyokushin people train themselves to death, and train to take and cause serious damage. If you search through the ocean of tkd practitioners, you might find a tough guy, but the pond of kyokushin practitioners are full of good fighters.
@Achillies101 thats where are you wrong, its not about the style/martial art, its all about HOW YOU TRAINED! dude you think TKD fail coz of the lame WTF competitions, go search about ITF TKD, in ITF there is 24 style and it is the most traditional and ITF is made for self defense you can use face punches also, and in ITF competitions THEY DO NOT WEAR PADDINGS! check the vids and you'll guess
@dark50killer Watched this ITF thing. They wear pads on their hands and feet. I guess not wearing those pathetic chest things is considered no "PADDINGS" Kyokushin wears no pads period. I studied both TKD and Kyokushin for an extended period of time, I think I have a right to make this argument. I have no doubt everyone disagreeing with me has only done TKD. Am I wrong? If they did both, they would say simply "TKD sucks"
@Achillies101 no you are wrong I did Karate,Kung fu Sanda,TKD and mate its all about how hard the practitioner is trained, and about the rules.now when I used to be in Kung fu sanda,put me in a karate rule I will loose coz I don't have right to punch and hook in the face, I don't have the right to grab and throw.
and mate in ITF is different then WTF you wear no chest AND HEAD paddings and you ARE ALLOWED TO HIT IN THE FACE AND HEAD, image double punch and a kick in the face how would it feel?
@dark50killer Karate is not unified in Japan. The very fact that you think that shows your ignorance of the topic. I really want to hear how you are going to recover from a statement like that.
@Achillies101 your a TKD fighter so you would know that we stretch all the time? your incorrect if that is what you think. yes there are flashy kicks. but there are flashy kicks in every art all of the arts pretty much have some of the same kicks, but they might kick with different parts of there leg. like muay thia they kick with the shin, tkd with the palm of the foot. you can find great tkd fighters in a lot of places. its just that obviously you happen to comment on a video where tkd looses
@GhettoSlayin724 But I've never seen good Taekwondo fighter in K1, little all in MMA, haha, but with all my respect to every martial art - Taekwondo and Aikido, from the popular styles, are the less effective ones. Still, I believe they can give you something unique.
@AryanBulgar going to have to disagree with very little fighter in mma are taekwondo fighters. I can list many. Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis, Shogun Rua. and these are just a few. People always suspect TKD as just the flashy kicks and Karate as just the basic kicks, when in turn they are both very similar in terms of styles, both are basic and complex in terms of what they can do. but to echo what others have been saying its the fighters not the styles that make these fights :)
@nogard1234 Silva and Pettis are not Taekwondo fighters, just because they've trained some it doesn't mean that's their style. And Rua didn't even trained Taekwondo. So what the regular people are saying or thinking about the styles doesn't matter.
@mariogh2000 fighting style of the kick boxing is not like that... im a karate fighter so i know their fighting style like andy hug and look ad his enemy using only legs for attacking its not about suit it depends what the organizer or the producer wants
@LightningFist100 but i think that they practice karate .... but in this fight im sure is something like kick boxing because karate dont use those gloves
@flattop44sc Nope. You;d have to be pompus arrogant and have your head jammed so far up your own ideas you spit paint to be a propper artist. Good grief art was a terrible subject.
@flattop44sc ADD not Autism, I wouldn't make fun of the autistic though, they have talent in certain areas, which is more than most 'artistic' people can honestly claim.
@psychedashell That makes no sense. My friends sister has autism, and I do not have anything against people who have it (why would anyone?), but your post just doesn't make sense at all. Them maybe having some talent in certain areas is not going to make them more artistic than real artists (musicians, singers, painters, etc.).
@BLURCEG My gripe is with the terms 'artist' and 'artistic', always brings to mind people with no talents and big mouths. If you read further you'll notice that I was called autistic, I do have ADD, but that's not really what I'm getting at with the comment. Autistic people that I know have a subject area that they absolutely excell at, usually to the exclusion of all else, they have incredible talent. You can be an artist with no talent at all.
For those people saying TKD is weak stupid dumb well why don't you guys try fighting a TKD master using you're so-called proud style and try beating a TKD master,
Its not the style that makes you strong its You who makes the style stronger in the end its all up to the person using the style
lol man let youtube keyboard warriors tell what ever they want about taekwondo. We Taekwondo Fighters know what it's about when it comes to fight in the street.
@KaratistasLTU You imbecile, if you knew anything about Karate you'd know that TKD took influence from it. There is no ultimate art. ONLY an ultimate artist
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Киокушин задолбит любого только надо обязательно быть разносторонним бойцом, знать и броски, и удушающие приемы, а так же удары в голову руками. Это все, в принципе, любому хорошему бойцу необходимо уметь проводить во время боя.)))
Milkissable 1 month ago
XDDD anyone like the guy on 0:19
catmario425 1 month ago
Taekwondo, wins or Karate?
luisitolopezcaste 1 month ago
@luisitolopezcaste Kyokushin Karate andy hug won
arkonastriborg123 1 month ago
andy hug kyokushin fighter wins
danykyokushin 1 month ago
who wins??
darkmarcus12 2 months ago
My left ear enjoyed this
Nightninja64 2 months ago 11
@andy59tube then why do kyokushin-kai fighters kick ass!?
blugularis 2 months ago
pat smith isn't taekwondo fighter.he's thai boxer,because i remember his fights on ufc against royce gracie in 90-s.andy is one of the best kyokushin fighters
rusmontagnard 2 months ago
@rusmontagnard Pat SMit is originally a TKD blackbelt who went on to crosstrain in other styles and arts. He competed in MMA, kickboxing, karate, Thaiboxing and later even regular Boxing. But his base was TKD.
kolsyrade 2 months ago in playlist kyokushin
@andy59tube So how come that in most fights where it's standup rules (lets not even talk about MMA) the taekwondo fighter ALWAYS loses, except that one obvious promo video where the tkd guy demolishes some guy with muscles in muay thai shorts, with the stupid promo music in the background... the muay thai looked like he'd never been in a real muay thai fight before, but in every other vid, the TKD guy loses?
k4n31985 2 months ago
Muay Thay kills TKD anytime.
101ers77 2 months ago
@101ers77 /watch?v=cGC6pDRxm4I Muay thay got beaten :D and pretty hard.
ugnuy 2 months ago
OSU from belgium
momo200090 3 months ago
which ne is which
harrytheman1000 3 months ago
karate vs tkd? Both look like kick boxing to me...
yuowatcher 3 months ago
Classic fight my ass,
Pat has owned Mr.Hug previously:
It's a draw.
park377 3 months ago
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Kyokushin's like a kickboxing thing, itz awesome and gr8 for fighting in tournaments. But how do we defend ourselves in street attacks with it? no grabbing or submission holds! what do we do if multiple ppl come attacking together? The kicks aren't of long range enuf like that of
TKD or Kung Fu, so how do we save ourselves? :| ... No offence really, I'd just be glad if any kyokushin practitioner answers me. Thanks in advance :)
F91yzg 4 months ago
Andy je bio sila samo takva...retko ko je imao takvu sirovu i mentalnu snagu...da ne pricamo o tome da je imao leukemiju :(((
tarjaa100 4 months ago
May you rest in peace Andy Hug! :(
One of the greatest fighters to ever live! (^_^)
1029Itachi 4 months ago
Seem's like alot of people on here are being taught that martial arts is only about fighting.....
goulter1985 4 months ago
@goulter1985 hehe my friend
lympheneas 4 months ago
@goulter1985 go on then, why were martial arts developed?
DunxMeister 4 months ago
Well, I do have to say most videos I see of professionals TKD fighters are bad under pressure if they don't have enough room to kick or if their kicks are blocked. They seem to panic and don't know what to do
just an observation....
xbimpyx 5 months ago
fed in punches and moved in for a knee nice.
Courvousier 5 months ago
Everyone stop arguing it's all pointless. We are all going to believe what we are going to believe just train your hardest and be great!!
KyosaNimGe 5 months ago
martial arts -> user -> fight
fight != martial art
user chooses how to fight with the techniques form its martial art, you cannot debate which is better from a fight.
superheaton 5 months ago
the white guy's kick to the opponents back head was his key to win ... the rest is just the finishing touch. It's good.
123peaceband123 5 months ago
oyama's kyokushin karate from taekyeon traditional korean matialart. . oyama is korean. . may search choi young ei
TheDavidc1 5 months ago
@TheDavidc1 No it's not. Karate has its roots from very very many martial arts and from different variations. But kyokushin itself is mostly from goju-ryu and shotokan karate. Oyama was korean. I guess most of his life he was japanese.
pastropmal 5 months ago
@TheDavidc1 Yes Oyama was born in korea, but he never learned any korean art except Ssireum (korean folk wrestling similar to sumo). He certainly never learned Taekyeon.
He learned a little kempo (a few months worth ) while staying with relatives in Manchuria as a small child one summer, but claimed to remember little about it except that it was mostly elbows and headbutts.
Kyokushin is based on the shotokan and gojuryu karate he learned in Japan.
kolsyrade 2 months ago
rip andy hug
YULEN16 5 months ago
The other fighter is Pat Smith and hes got a background in Karate and Kickboxing
3wolfsignal 5 months ago
I miss you great Karate-ka Andy Hug.
Hawaii0407 5 months ago
So what, the Karate guy won with Boxing and Muay Thai?
peterpanmannnn 6 months ago
@peterpanmannnn those attack are all present in karate and in muay thai
yukariniro05 5 months ago
in every fight ive seen that is karate vs tkd, karate has one
samueljacksonshields 6 months ago
@samueljacksonshields Karate has one what.
pathman2 5 months ago
Andy Hug,a gentleman...
zagadzagad 6 months ago
davethenuttymagician tae kwon do is a ful system with all the bits the others have locks throws etc and ive been following the ufc since fight one with ken shamrock ,hoyce gracie etc and how can you say no power?
andrew19682008 6 months ago
There is no martial arts better than other martial arts, but there are better practitioners than others ..
peter2897 6 months ago
@peter2897 Yes you are 100% right, but there are so many styles that spending time to practice loads of crap techniques that wont work in real fights. Speed, timing, balance, strength and the ability to read the opponent usually win. Kyokushin is my style, It has no fancy dance moves, it wont look good in Hollywood movies, we don´t do the Kung Fu waving with our arms like helicopters and make funny Bruce Lee sounds. The Kyokushin style is simply ugly, but quite efficient with the right guy.
ZoDDyXXX 5 months ago 2
Why bring an ancient Martial art into a brawl?
kejhmaster 6 months ago 16
@kejhmaster taekwondo is new
ThillerDance 5 months ago
@ThillerDance I think he is reffering to the other sport
TheSparringPanther 4 months ago
@kejhmaster Neither Karate or Taekwondo are ancient martial arts. On another note, where do you expect the training to be used?
HarryTheInfidel 3 months ago
@kejhmaster wich one?
BloodCompaction 2 months ago
TKD you learn this and your ass is served
TKDsuckass 6 months ago
@andy59tube Exactly.
GhettoSlayin724 6 months ago
i would get hardcore kyokushin fighter, teach him in taekwondo so he can refine kicks and at the same time get him to box classicaly and afterwards muay thai.
after all that you have a complete standup fighter. strong-precise-allarounder-fast and can take a punch kick and whatever you send his way.
ookami3380 6 months ago
Hard to Match up Tae Kwon Do agaisnt a True Martial Artist TKD Has No Power when using the Hands and the Legs are good but stresses High Kicks ....
Davethenuttymagician 6 months ago
@Davethenuttymagician Which is why people get broken ribs through Vests, in TKD Compeititons. And furthermore, lets not generalise the WTF Competition forms with Formal KKW Standard TKD, and ITF TKD.
Otherwise, we may as well say that Karate Fighters dont learn Head Punching just because it isnt in their Competitions. And then make Shotokan and Kyokushin Spar each other.
Caeviens 6 months ago
lol when i saw the video i said here 's some interesting fight.. when i saw andy hug i said... another andy's ko
KONIStheGREEK 6 months ago
damn the Liver shot with the leg knock the f out of him lol
TCreatorO 6 months ago
God I miss Andy Hug :'(
BenK8319 6 months ago
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xSadisticPanduhx 6 months ago
that was a phat fight that white guy owned shit up
deonc45 6 months ago
Tae Kwon Do Karate is good if you want to win trophies in point tournaments or compete in the olympics. But if you want to be a fighter you need to learn Kyokushin Karate or Muay Thai.
naumutroi 6 months ago 2
The thing about taekwondo is u need Space to fight, once the guy comes in close u are in trouble.
shubroto81 6 months ago
@RuggedHawaiian
The victor was Swiss Kyokushin Legend Andi Hug
howesnet 6 months ago
The Switzerland victor was the TKD fighter?
RuggedHawaiian 6 months ago
@RuggedHawaiian Yes, which was the TKD fighter and which the Kyokushin? Need a posting. Some of the commentators know which fighter was which, but that's no help to others.
ranhat2 6 months ago
You can't compare styles, you have to compare each fighter. It's about people, not about style...
smoldaj 6 months ago
@smoldaj No, wrong tkd is very flash, fast but innafective in modern day fights but karate is slow but powerful which is much more effective
KelanX 6 months ago
As I said it's about people.
smoldaj 6 months ago
@smoldaj no, its about the martial art they do
KelanX 6 months ago
@KelanX May I ask you somethin'? Have you ever trained a martial art or fight sport??
smoldaj 5 months ago
@smoldaj Yes, I am a black belt 3rd dan in Wado Ryu karate
KelanX 5 months ago
@KelanX Great, keep doin' good. I guess you didn't get what I meant. I mean, It's not best martial art, but it's best fighter. You get it?
smoldaj 5 months ago
@smoldaj no?
KelanX 5 months ago
@KelanX Forget it, man.. :D
smoldaj 5 months ago
not all schools are the same.some teach combat.some sport(full,semi full,kata,ect)some teach meditation.and not all teachers or students are the same.me?shotokan,meditation.
zepphree 7 months ago
Andi Hug is better and kyokushin is better
stiliqnful 7 months ago
tkd is great for balance and refining tecnique but kyokushin translates better in to street fights close combat fighting etc.. i have trained in both but kyokshin trainning is harder in terms of stress the body is put under and the hits u have to take wwek in week out i aggree with what @myraimondi is sayin but in real life if u goin to fight no one goin to give u room do all the flash 360 kicks they will be all over u grappling x
TheCoudie 7 months ago 11
@TheCoudie TKD is good for nothing, it's useless. I've fought dozens of seasoned TKD fighters, all garbage. No ground game, no grappling, just shitty backflip kicks and shitty round kicks. Some used axe kicks, which are equally as horrible.
kintle182 7 months ago
@kintle182 okey dokey intenet warrior
westhamboy95 7 months ago
Why not? Surely you train in martial arts so you can make sure you have room to do any kick you want should it come to a fight. Those flashy kicks are designed to knock a person out or at the very least cause serious injury on impact, I think it's more to do with the fact that on the surface people would be too self concious to display them. I think for shy people who have no skill karate would seem more appealing because it's discreet and direct, both should be equally as effective however.
Oliiiverr 6 months ago
@TheCoudie but none of the less a spinning kick isnt what they expect...
Rebelegend 6 months ago
@TheCoudie stfu
ICrusherRiderI 4 months ago
Taekwondo has no history.
yamahanaya 7 months ago
the very first move shows the versatility of some of the unforseen moves one can pull out on demand.
yourmaker74 7 months ago
It's not just the martial art or style that makes people good fighters. It's their level of skill compared to their opponents that make them dominate.
The martial art you train in shouldn't matter as much as how you use it.
jraconos 7 months ago
TAEKWONDO MUST STOP: 540, 720 AND ALL THOSE EXOTIC SPINNING KICKS
MUST START TO USE: FISTS, ELBOWS, KNEES, LOW KICKS AND UNPROTECTED REAL FIGHTING LIKE KYOKUSHIN
OTHERWISE, TAEKWONDO WILL NEVER WIN KYOKUSHIN AND MUAY THAI.
tshk5271221 7 months ago
@tshk5271221 thats usually WTF taekwondo crap. ITF is different plus elbows knees low kicks and fists are all up to the fighter if he doesnt use any of that in a fight then he is just an idiot.
NNK112107 7 months ago
@tshk5271221 u know nothing about the true taekwondo son
myraimondi 7 months ago
@myraimondi What True TKD? TKD was originally a ripoff of Japanese Karate mainly Shotokan, and then they invented a false history for themselves cause they hate the Japanese for the Occupation and now they claim their style is 2000 years old. Original TKD with the Korean Flair was a great Art but the new Olympic style is a joke and is only for people who like being Fake Black Belts cause real Karate is too hard for them.
VladJukuKarate 7 months ago
@VladJukuKarate i don't fuking care if they claim it 2000 yrs old or 20000000yrs old that's the korean's business. I have practiced both the olympic (WTF) tkd and more original style (ITF) tkd. I know WTF is shxt and ITF looks weaker than Kyokushin. But in Noerth Korea, it's a hell of difference. U said tkd must stop those exoric spinning kicks but do u know that the purpose of practicing these kicks are not to use them in real fight, but to train their spinning moves
myraimondi 7 months ago
@VladJukuKarate and their body coordinations. For example, after practicing a 720 turning kick, your body will be more used to a vigorous spinning move and improve your leg-control. Through this u could truly master your 360 turning kick as you could achieve sth beyond that, u feel me? besides, these spinning kicks are also unique signature moves of TKD right? As for FISTS, ELBOWS, KNEES, LOW KICKS, they are all included in TKD patterns, it's just they don't practice them much cuz they won't use
myraimondi 7 months ago
@myraimondi it during contests. In the orginal TKD, they practice those way ,ore often than nowadays. I would like to point out that what nowadays tkd lack is a serious body toughness and foundations training. As to the easy black belts, try getting one in old ITF, u gotta kick your leg up to your head in 1s
myraimondi 7 months ago
@myraimondi in order to BE QUALIFIED FOR THE EXAMINATION, try doing that. P.S: Kyokshin and muay thai seems to dominate tkd on stage but it's not the truth, the stage doesn't have the distance that tkd fighters need. so actually it's a bit unfair for tkd on stage.
myraimondi 7 months ago
@myraimondi TKD is a joke, so shut the fuck up.
kintle182 7 months ago
NICE FRONT KICK!!! or was it a roundhouse? can't tell.
PunkHippie1971 7 months ago
muay thai is #1
hartlepoolfc1908 7 months ago
Yes, Andy Hug was a good fighter but also Kyokushin Karate is a much much tougher than Taekwondo. Kyokushin trains body for hard hits unlike Taekwondo. Just go and watch any Kyokushin dojo anywhere in the world and compare it to any Taekwondo dojo and you will find that Kyokushin is a real martial art but not a fancy high kicks sport.
HawramanKurdistan 7 months ago
@HawramanKurdistan you may be right, i dont honestly know. but it wasn't that ability to take hits that won the fight, it was his own way of fighting. systems can only take someone so far, in the end it was the person, not the style.
kaikiernan 7 months ago
@kaikiernan I believe if you select 100 fighters from each Martial Arts style and make them compete against each other in a full contact fight, Kyukushin will come out first. My point is the system creates the fighter.
Kyukushin is not a sport or a point system, it is a kill system. It is a hurt, pain, and a pure fighting system unlike many other systems. Thanks,
HawramanKurdistan 7 months ago
@HawramanKurdistan I disagree with you on that. Kyokushin is a sport, but it's a sport that forces you into conflict like boxing. People who take up kyokushin and prosper at it generally have a similar mindset, one that accepts pain as part of the sport, generally the same mindset as boxers, kickboxers, footballers and ice hockey players. Pain is part of the game.
psychedashell 7 months ago
Awww i could Be trained by andy if i wantet to x3
Specialforce848 8 months ago
@Specialforce848 How? He's dead.
kevinkmny 7 months ago
@kevinkmny lol sorry i could have been... xD he's, sorry was a buddy of my old karate teacher...
Specialforce848 7 months ago
I hate this karate vs tkd crap. Andy hug won cuz hes a good fighter. Not because karate is better. Andy is a good fighter case closed.
GhettoSlayin724 8 months ago 45
@GhettoSlayin724 But...Kyokushin Karate is better.
TieXiongJi 7 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 Andy Hug was awesome, but if someone says they have a Kyokushin black belt, that means something. Tkd black belts are a dime a dozen.
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 no disrespect, and im not trying to get in a argument that shows how stupid some people are because someone state a simple opinion, all arts have there differences, and all arts have thing alike. but when i comes down to a certain art winning, its the fighter. martial ARTS is self expression, nothing more, nothing less.
aikidostudent1 7 months ago
@aikidostudent1 That "expression" shit is garbage. of course its the art, why do you think there are no shitty ass TKD or aikido faggots in the UFC, IFL, or other organization i can't remember right now? Because it dosen't work, it's for show. If you think that TKD and/or aikido is anything other than a sport, you're an idiot.
kintle182 7 months ago
@kintle182 anderson silva uses taekwondo in UFC.
westhamboy95 7 months ago
@westhamboy95 Anderson Silva uses predominately Muay Thai with some Karate. That said many fighters do have a TKD background and strong kicks is a great basis for any striker.
Pantjay 7 months ago
@Pantjay yh he used it to knock out chael sonnen i think was his name and i researched anderson silva an it looks like it was a taekwondo kick instead of muay thai
westhamboy95 7 months ago
Respond to this video... sorry it was vitor belfort
westhamboy95 7 months ago
@westhamboy95 Show me when and where? That's the constant argument i get, "anderson knows TKD!!!" but he never uses it.
kintle182 7 months ago
@kintle182 vitor belfort
westhamboy95 7 months ago
@kintle182 any kick anderson silva does is not pure muay thai or pure taekwondo... its a blend of both which is why they are so unique to him....
people can't just shut off something they learned to do something else thats similar... they will always blend styles together
nogard1234 6 months ago
@kintle182 get your facts straight! GSP started tae kwon do when he was 14 years old, the reason Aikido isnt in the UFC is because it isnt allowed! it was in pride fighting until the boxing federation bought out pride fighting and then RULES were created! another thing, aikido isnt effective in the UFC because of the pre tap put one the fighters wrist. is acts as a shield so to speak. get your facts straight dumb shit! its self "expression." some people perform certain moves better then others
aikidostudent1 7 months ago
@aikidostudent1 Only if the person is physically unable to do certain moves, will other moves work better. Also, aikdio dosen't work, show me a video of it working in a real scenario. Any video, NOT a demonstration video.
kintle182 7 months ago
@kintle182 go to a local aikido gym and fight someone. i cant find a real fight but i can tell you that the reason a demonstration is a demonstration is because the attacker has to know how to role if he doesnt know how to role then the results of all the attackers in a demonstration would all have broken bones just because a fighting organization doesnt carry an art doesnt make it fake! aikido is learn and study by the Americans Japanese and the uk MILITARY this is world wide. isnt an accident!
aikidostudent1 7 months ago
@aikidostudent1 A martial art is a guideline, that is true, however all arts are not created equal and some can unlock a person's fighting potential better than others. If all martial arts are equal, that is like saying all food is equal, or all religions are the same. They are not. My guess is that I have more experience in tkd and kyokushin that the people arguing with me.
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 you just dont get it.
GhettoSlayin724 7 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 Please explain to me in terms I can understand.
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 I dont care what martial arts andy knew. What made a andy a good fighter is his will, his dedication and great technique. If Kyokushin karate is soo good. Why isn't there more fighters with that kinda karate. You know why? Cuz andy is just that good so gtfo with that shit. I cant stand ignorance or a narrow minded attitude.
GhettoSlayin724 7 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 'Why isn't there more fighters with that kinda karate' - Sam Greco, Fransisco Filho, Glaube Feitosa, Ewerton Teixeira, Michael Thompson, Semmy Schilt?.. and that is just the ones in K1that I remember... How many is 'more' ? Andy was not the only Kyokushin stylist to do well in K1. History shows that the only style to win the K1 other than Muay Thai is Kyokushin. No one style has all the answers, but to suggest Andy was just a one off is ignorant. Where are all the TKD fighers?
aldridge1 7 months ago
@aldridge1 First of all, is that all the fighters? and Second Feitosa sucks and so does semmy schilt. Besides Micheal thompson none of those guys had the same success Hug has had not even relatively close. So don't throw fighters at me like idk wtf im talking about those fighters dont even compare to hug. I'm not even talking about tkd so stfu with that. You Kyokushin fanboy go fly a kite.
gibson724 7 months ago
@gibson724 Considering it is not their style I would say it is alot of fighters. Also considering that they all made the K1 final against the elite of a foreign sport is also telling. Can you imagine a squash player making the wimbleton final? I am a 'fanboy' of all martialarts, not just kyokushin, but the results speak for themselves. Where are all the fighters from Shotokan, Goju, TKD etc, etc? The fact that you resort to insults when your opinion is questioned is also telling.
aldridge1 7 months ago
@aldridge1 no idiot. you jus sound fanboy hating on tdk along with all the trolls on this page. I know what im talking about. Enough with your paragraphs of nonsense.
gibson724 7 months ago
@aldridge1 what results?? that andy hug is better than all those fighters you mentioned you taught me nothing you know.
gibson724 7 months ago
@Achillies101 you obviously have no clue, so go home. really go to bed or something. your making yourself look stupid.
aikidostudent1 7 months ago
@aikidostudent1 Please explain why I am wrong? TKD is just people who stretch a lot so they can do flashy garbage kicks. Kyokushin people train themselves to death, and train to take and cause serious damage. If you search through the ocean of tkd practitioners, you might find a tough guy, but the pond of kyokushin practitioners are full of good fighters.
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 thats where are you wrong, its not about the style/martial art, its all about HOW YOU TRAINED! dude you think TKD fail coz of the lame WTF competitions, go search about ITF TKD, in ITF there is 24 style and it is the most traditional and ITF is made for self defense you can use face punches also, and in ITF competitions THEY DO NOT WEAR PADDINGS! check the vids and you'll guess
dark50killer 7 months ago
@dark50killer Watched this ITF thing. They wear pads on their hands and feet. I guess not wearing those pathetic chest things is considered no "PADDINGS" Kyokushin wears no pads period. I studied both TKD and Kyokushin for an extended period of time, I think I have a right to make this argument. I have no doubt everyone disagreeing with me has only done TKD. Am I wrong? If they did both, they would say simply "TKD sucks"
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 no you are wrong I did Karate,Kung fu Sanda,TKD and mate its all about how hard the practitioner is trained, and about the rules.now when I used to be in Kung fu sanda,put me in a karate rule I will loose coz I don't have right to punch and hook in the face, I don't have the right to grab and throw.
and mate in ITF is different then WTF you wear no chest AND HEAD paddings and you ARE ALLOWED TO HIT IN THE FACE AND HEAD, image double punch and a kick in the face how would it feel?
dark50killer 7 months ago
@dark50killer "Karate" isn't just "Karate" was it kyokushin? because Kyokushin not the same as other forms of karate. What type was it?
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101 well don't remember really did that since was 6 to 10 ,well in japan it is a general Karate, out of Japan it is divided I know
dark50killer 7 months ago
@dark50killer Karate is not unified in Japan. The very fact that you think that shows your ignorance of the topic. I really want to hear how you are going to recover from a statement like that.
Achillies101 7 months ago
@Achillies101well it is you idiot, unless if you want to learn each part alone,but in usual Japanese dojo they teach you all 3 together.
and fuck head my friend is champion of Jordanian national karate and went trained in Japan.
dark50killer 7 months ago
@Achillies101 dude your just trolling. someone has no time.
gibson724 7 months ago
@Achillies101 your a TKD fighter so you would know that we stretch all the time? your incorrect if that is what you think. yes there are flashy kicks. but there are flashy kicks in every art all of the arts pretty much have some of the same kicks, but they might kick with different parts of there leg. like muay thia they kick with the shin, tkd with the palm of the foot. you can find great tkd fighters in a lot of places. its just that obviously you happen to comment on a video where tkd looses
aikidostudent1 6 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 True. Btw i like Karate more.
Artingence 7 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 But I've never seen good Taekwondo fighter in K1, little all in MMA, haha, but with all my respect to every martial art - Taekwondo and Aikido, from the popular styles, are the less effective ones. Still, I believe they can give you something unique.
AryanBulgar 7 months ago
@AryanBulgar idc im done talking to you karate fanboys.
GhettoSlayin724 6 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 Yeah, keep your Taekwondo.
AryanBulgar 6 months ago
@AryanBulgar going to have to disagree with very little fighter in mma are taekwondo fighters. I can list many. Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis, Shogun Rua. and these are just a few. People always suspect TKD as just the flashy kicks and Karate as just the basic kicks, when in turn they are both very similar in terms of styles, both are basic and complex in terms of what they can do. but to echo what others have been saying its the fighters not the styles that make these fights :)
nogard1234 6 months ago
@nogard1234 Silva and Pettis are not Taekwondo fighters, just because they've trained some it doesn't mean that's their style. And Rua didn't even trained Taekwondo. So what the regular people are saying or thinking about the styles doesn't matter.
AryanBulgar 6 months ago
@GhettoSlayin724 YOO PLZ ST.F.U. ANDY AINT BETTER DA TUEKWANDO GUY WAS FAIL NOOB IF SOME ONE WAS STRONGER IAM PRETTY SURE HE WOULD FK ANDY ;]
cristianoronaldo780 6 months ago
@cristianoronaldo780 fucking moron. i dont think i said that. Go fuck off somewhere you ronaldo dick rider.
GhettoSlayin724 6 months ago
Osu!
mrtaekwon 8 months ago
Thats Andy Hug and Pat Smith good Smith got beat he is a loud mouth any way he fought in the first ufc's in the early 90's.
TheShinobi32 8 months ago
175 training Taekwondo :D
mulerocco 8 months ago
@mulerocco believe me, that's not even the half of the people who train tkd, and this looks more like Kick Boxing to me...
l3moh94 8 months ago
this clearly ain't karate nor tkd
i see only ace kick from tkd in here that doesn't prove anything
nevonja 8 months ago
that cocky patrick smith dude deserved that. that fuck doesnt represent the discipline of taekwondo by taunting his opponent.
Cl0udyDayz 8 months ago
Pat Smith. UFC 1 & 2. Old School :)
benny2986 8 months ago
this is kick boxing -.- ... not karate or TKD
mariogh2000 8 months ago
@mariogh2000 dude you cant tell that's not karate or tkd just because of their suit? you can tell it by watching their fightning styles...
LightningFist100 8 months ago
@LightningFist100 yes man ... those kicks r form kick boxing ... and karate fights use a kimono no that kind of suit :)
mariogh2000 8 months ago
@mariogh2000 fighting style of the kick boxing is not like that... im a karate fighter so i know their fighting style like andy hug and look ad his enemy using only legs for attacking its not about suit it depends what the organizer or the producer wants
LightningFist100 8 months ago
@LightningFist100 but i think that they practice karate .... but in this fight im sure is something like kick boxing because karate dont use those gloves
mariogh2000 8 months ago
@mariogh2000they use gloves just because that's the organizer or the producer wants
LightningFist100 8 months ago
The terms porn star and martial artist are alike.Sometimes they're just a porn participant,because you take Karate doesn't make you an artist
flattop44sc 8 months ago
@flattop44sc Nope. You;d have to be pompus arrogant and have your head jammed so far up your own ideas you spit paint to be a propper artist. Good grief art was a terrible subject.
psychedashell 8 months ago
@psychedashell once you hit puberty you can comment,and if the helment comes off get a hair cut
flattop44sc 8 months ago
@flattop44sc Oh, I'm sorry, did you consider yourself artistic? You poor thing.
psychedashell 8 months ago
@psychedashell And you're autistic,poor thing.I shouldn't make fun of the handicapped but I do
flattop44sc 8 months ago
@flattop44sc ADD not Autism, I wouldn't make fun of the autistic though, they have talent in certain areas, which is more than most 'artistic' people can honestly claim.
psychedashell 8 months ago
@psychedashell That makes no sense. My friends sister has autism, and I do not have anything against people who have it (why would anyone?), but your post just doesn't make sense at all. Them maybe having some talent in certain areas is not going to make them more artistic than real artists (musicians, singers, painters, etc.).
BLURCEG 8 months ago
@BLURCEG My gripe is with the terms 'artist' and 'artistic', always brings to mind people with no talents and big mouths. If you read further you'll notice that I was called autistic, I do have ADD, but that's not really what I'm getting at with the comment. Autistic people that I know have a subject area that they absolutely excell at, usually to the exclusion of all else, they have incredible talent. You can be an artist with no talent at all.
psychedashell 8 months ago
no best martial art just have a best player
iamngweilun 8 months ago
For those people saying TKD is weak stupid dumb well why don't you guys try fighting a TKD master using you're so-called proud style and try beating a TKD master,
Its not the style that makes you strong its You who makes the style stronger in the end its all up to the person using the style
kadendiran 8 months ago
@kadendiran
lol man let youtube keyboard warriors tell what ever they want about taekwondo. We Taekwondo Fighters know what it's about when it comes to fight in the street.
moussleouf 8 months ago
@moussleouf hehe agreed and lol keyboard warriors nice one lol
kadendiran 8 months ago
Taekwondo is for stupids. You now can see how Kyokushin owns it. Karate Kyokushin 4ever!
KaratistasLTU 8 months ago
@KaratistasLTU You're no martial artist since you don't respect the other arts
kadendiran 8 months ago
@kadendiran Okay I can respect Taekwondo but you can agree that this fight was won by Karate?
KaratistasLTU 8 months ago
@KaratistasLTU Yea, I can agree that Karate won
kadendiran 8 months ago
@KaratistasLTU You imbecile, if you knew anything about Karate you'd know that TKD took influence from it. There is no ultimate art. ONLY an ultimate artist
PnutButter1986 8 months ago
@PnutButter1986 I see you are not the best writer if its true it is Fighter not Artist
KaratistasLTU 8 months ago