@jblackmel Yes. This is a glitch. It was from Demon's Souls as well. It's a bugged swing. The swing itself only appears to swing vertically... this is an illusion of sorts. Although it appears to be swinging overhead, and ,much faster, the swing's hit collision is still normal. This is not intentional however... the person doing it will not know (as it appears normally on their screen). Toggling weapons stops this.
Sorry to double post, but I forget to add that the instant-block (tapping L1 at the right time to gain block damage reduction without block animation and possible stagger) is downright amazing for wrath of god (which can't be parried).
The timing is ... ridiculous though, I've only seen it done. But it's got to freak out someone to instant - block backstab punish their WoG.
For the next Weird Stuff video, I suggest talking about rolling out of a sprint instead of doing the jump. Also, backhop stuff. If you don't already know, just raise or lower your guard between releasing the circle button, and then pressing it again for the roll. So hold circle > (optional hold L1) > release > tap (or release) L1 > tap circle.
For backhop, you can control the direction it goes. Press circle, then JUST before you backhop, face a direction and you will backhop away from it.
1) This vid is awesome, and explains a little why I've been getting my ass handed to me in pvp. Seriously well thought out, presented and articulated. Nice to see such a methodical look at some underlying combat mechanics.
2) Bonus points for Sloth+Chunk love and Ninja Gaiden music
I do wonder. The Butcher Knife has a pretty unique move set and I have noticed that while it´s R1 swings dont have a "combo", the time between them is slightly faster than the Claymore (maybe) both one-handed and two-handed. It also consumes noticeably less stamina.
@moffetdamacy I've been asked this a few times now and it's difficult to say frankly. I'm not in any position to discuss it, nor do I possess the expertise to say if it would be good or not. However, if mods were allowed... almost certainly yes providing a proper port was developed. This game cries out for constant tuning and variety, and that's what an enthusiastic PC community could grant.
I also agree with EpicNameBro: I don't want to see is a butchered port.
Another thing, it's worth mentioning that the way instant block works is that you have to be lowering your shield as you get hit. This way people don't "wtf" when they tap the block button just as they get hit and have it not work. And also, since the success of an IB is based upon the gamestate in the blocker's game, it doesn't have the other problem that parry has where you never really know if you will succeed or not due to lag.
@Metadaxe Good question. I've never tested, but almost certainly "No" (99% sure, could be wrong however). The game only misbehaves in that sense on the receiver's end. Wouldn't mind confirming through a test... but I've been busy as hell.
@naakato A little, but not extensively, and not enough to talk about it intelligently. It's faster then Manserpent however and therefore (likely) better.
@PhantomEWGF Claymore stunlock tends to be a tad irritating as the claymore in two hands has a vertical slash as its quick atack and a horrizantal as its heavy meaning that you can get off more hits with the quick atack at the same stun style as with the othe weapons, or you can use the horrizantal and follow up with a quick while they stagger from it.
Could you do a video on jumping attacks, pvp parry timing, good pvp locations,and how to defend against a 1v2 matchup, also maybe discuss the importance of armor (I am not asking for them all at once, because that would be pretty ridiculous). A video on any of those topics would be super helpful, just like all your previous videos, seriously your like a professional at this stuff.
@evergreen0LDB0Y I will do a video specifically for parrying... that will be a massive video. Armor will probably have it's own video, but it will be more a discussion of metagame.
Are there any other greatswords as fast as the moonlight great sword? I've stunned someone wearing a full set of paladin armor w/ it. I've always felt there was something a bit more unique about that weapon, maybe not.
@PhantomEWGF Haha, 0 hate, I just want fighting game style streams and commentary! Delicious slang. And when I get a new controller (just got a new job, so soon!)
Although it will be hard to go back to the PS3 after the ease of 360 invasions.
@TMRaven "Instant Block" is from Guilty Gear... it's also what it was called back in DeS... but nobody used it really so the term floated around in Limbo. If I had naming rights, I would have called it "Ovary Block".
Hmm...I fought Jumilaattori twice in the kiln this week. I lost the first one, but won the second. My win was one sidestep backstab followed by a chained one: he was chasing me with a darkmoon blade enchanted zweihander, as far as I remember. XD
@AnonymousBrawler I generally invade in the Kiln, but right now... I'm barely playing. I have a job a shit... and these videos are killing my dueling time.
-.- fucking gema blocked part 2
SlyCooper92 1 day ago
And if u can can u make a video giving tips about a pyromancy build like equipment/techniques and general ideas PlZZ
mhfuXmonsta 1 day ago
For some reason i can watch this video a hudred time
Amd not get wat u r trying to say the four frames make no sense to me ;(
mhfuXmonsta 1 day ago
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WickedIntentionsLied 3 days ago
Does stun lock increase if you use your weapon two handed instead of one?
airtec87 3 days ago
@airtec87 Of course. They also swing faster. Few weapons can stun-lock properly in 1 hand.
PhantomEWGF 3 days ago
have anyone ever come across a ultra greatsword that swings vertically and FAST as opposed the the regular horizontal attack?
jblackmel 3 weeks ago
@jblackmel Yes. This is a glitch. It was from Demon's Souls as well. It's a bugged swing. The swing itself only appears to swing vertically... this is an illusion of sorts. Although it appears to be swinging overhead, and ,much faster, the swing's hit collision is still normal. This is not intentional however... the person doing it will not know (as it appears normally on their screen). Toggling weapons stops this.
PhantomEWGF 4 days ago
Can the block-cancel be done while 2 handing your weapon, so long as you're L1-ing to cancel? Or does this only apply to 1 handing the weapons?
oovwoo 3 weeks ago
@oovwoo This will work with 2-handed weapons too. Practice with another player in PvP to feel it out.
PhantomEWGF 4 days ago
got any idea if a +15 weapon stunlocks better than a +5 lightning ?
denis1855 1 month ago
@denis1855 Yes. It does. It matters in few cases however.
PhantomEWGF 4 days ago
Sorry to double post, but I forget to add that the instant-block (tapping L1 at the right time to gain block damage reduction without block animation and possible stagger) is downright amazing for wrath of god (which can't be parried).
The timing is ... ridiculous though, I've only seen it done. But it's got to freak out someone to instant - block backstab punish their WoG.
ForcesOfOdin 1 month ago in playlist DS PVP Tutorial
This is amazing, your work is an incredible gift to the community at large. Thank you!
ForcesOfOdin 1 month ago in playlist DS PVP Tutorial
how do u cancel pyromancies or WoG or Force? pls tell me...
warsystem074 1 month ago
For the next Weird Stuff video, I suggest talking about rolling out of a sprint instead of doing the jump. Also, backhop stuff. If you don't already know, just raise or lower your guard between releasing the circle button, and then pressing it again for the roll. So hold circle > (optional hold L1) > release > tap (or release) L1 > tap circle.
For backhop, you can control the direction it goes. Press circle, then JUST before you backhop, face a direction and you will backhop away from it.
Metadaxe 1 month ago
1) This vid is awesome, and explains a little why I've been getting my ass handed to me in pvp. Seriously well thought out, presented and articulated. Nice to see such a methodical look at some underlying combat mechanics.
2) Bonus points for Sloth+Chunk love and Ninja Gaiden music
3) Subbed
kohle36 1 month ago
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thatdeaddude3212 2 months ago
Why does one of them have a siperman armor?
Tolux303 2 months ago in playlist More videos from PhantomEWGF
I do wonder. The Butcher Knife has a pretty unique move set and I have noticed that while it´s R1 swings dont have a "combo", the time between them is slightly faster than the Claymore (maybe) both one-handed and two-handed. It also consumes noticeably less stamina.
What are your thoughts on it as a PvP weapon?
Ironwyrm 2 months ago
The PVP range for Dark Souls is the same as Demons' Souls ya? 120 or so?
Vicioussama 2 months ago
btw EpicNameBro sent me here.
ShuToshio 2 months ago
you sound like Hutch :P
ShuToshio 2 months ago
hey hey EWGF!
Do you think its a good idea to port dark souls to the PC?
moffetdamacy 2 months ago
@moffetdamacy I've been asked this a few times now and it's difficult to say frankly. I'm not in any position to discuss it, nor do I possess the expertise to say if it would be good or not. However, if mods were allowed... almost certainly yes providing a proper port was developed. This game cries out for constant tuning and variety, and that's what an enthusiastic PC community could grant.
I also agree with EpicNameBro: I don't want to see is a butchered port.
No Port > Bad Port.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
Another thing, it's worth mentioning that the way instant block works is that you have to be lowering your shield as you get hit. This way people don't "wtf" when they tap the block button just as they get hit and have it not work. And also, since the success of an IB is based upon the gamestate in the blocker's game, it doesn't have the other problem that parry has where you never really know if you will succeed or not due to lag.
Metadaxe 2 months ago
Oh, and something I was curious on, if you get a phantom miss, does shortage come into play or not?
Metadaxe 2 months ago
@Metadaxe Good question. I've never tested, but almost certainly "No" (99% sure, could be wrong however). The game only misbehaves in that sense on the receiver's end. Wouldn't mind confirming through a test... but I've been busy as hell.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
EWGF what are you doing you can't use the given names for mechanics you're supposed to make up new ones to troll the 2% of people who care.
Metadaxe 2 months ago
@Metadaxe I know. 2% is also a massive stretch. There are three people who get all bent out of shape about "Dead Angle" over "Cross-Up".
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
@PhantomEWGF 3? Really? I thought it was just me.
Metadaxe 2 months ago
tut on those smexy pyro ball cancels?
OreoYifu 2 months ago
@OreoYifu Next Video.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
@PhantomEWGF <3
OreoYifu 2 months ago
Thanks for the shouts. Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again, all the cool people be swaggin' out with that Gargoyle Helm bullshit.
meisterkai 2 months ago
and wtf bleed reset
snakevids 2 months ago
instant block seems like a bug
snakevids 2 months ago
the stunlock is why i hate fighting moonlighters. it's just not fun.
lamenotcool 2 months ago
At 10:23 you seem to cancel Great Fireball. How does one execute this technique?
hundredcrackvids 2 months ago
@hundredcrackvids Next video. It's old stuff though. DeS old.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
@phantomEWFG have you tested claymore stunlock?
naakato 2 months ago
@naakato A little, but not extensively, and not enough to talk about it intelligently. It's faster then Manserpent however and therefore (likely) better.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
@PhantomEWGF Claymore stunlock tends to be a tad irritating as the claymore in two hands has a vertical slash as its quick atack and a horrizantal as its heavy meaning that you can get off more hits with the quick atack at the same stun style as with the othe weapons, or you can use the horrizantal and follow up with a quick while they stagger from it.
Lifeless9619 1 month ago
Could you do a video on jumping attacks, pvp parry timing, good pvp locations,and how to defend against a 1v2 matchup, also maybe discuss the importance of armor (I am not asking for them all at once, because that would be pretty ridiculous). A video on any of those topics would be super helpful, just like all your previous videos, seriously your like a professional at this stuff.
evergreen0LDB0Y 2 months ago in playlist More videos from PhantomEWGF
@evergreen0LDB0Y I will do a video specifically for parrying... that will be a massive video. Armor will probably have it's own video, but it will be more a discussion of metagame.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
Are there any other greatswords as fast as the moonlight great sword? I've stunned someone wearing a full set of paladin armor w/ it. I've always felt there was something a bit more unique about that weapon, maybe not.
Anonymous473 2 months ago
@Anonymous473 Claymore for sure. Possible Greatlord GS, and BK sword.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
Does the stunblock on the zwei also work on the Black Knight Great Axe?
drforsooth89 2 months ago
@drforsooth89 No. BK Gaxe does not stun-lock like this at all. Try it... it's terrible.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
I've managed to raise my win ratio from 2/10 to about 5-6/10 thanks to your videos and some practice, thanks man, they're really helpful!
Zyphes 2 months ago
Haha, I like all the terminology being applied. Countdown to e-sports fighting game commentary style streams complete with salt emoticons.
sansviedotcom 2 months ago
@sansviedotcom it sounds only slightly less gay then "tapping block to stop block-stun". when are we making a video?
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
@PhantomEWGF Haha, 0 hate, I just want fighting game style streams and commentary! Delicious slang. And when I get a new controller (just got a new job, so soon!)
Although it will be hard to go back to the PS3 after the ease of 360 invasions.
sansviedotcom 2 months ago
@sansviedotcom no hate intended. I was being literal... slanging it up is easier then spelling everything out 100% of the time. How's 360 vades?
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
thanks for the video! love your format!
marklethanarkle 2 months ago
@marklethanarkle thanks.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
Perfect Shielding, my bad.
TMRaven 2 months ago
really enjoy your videos mate! Pretty new to dark souls (SL63) and they are very useful for me to try and get a bit better at pvp. Keep it up.
TheSkEncrypt 2 months ago
Call it power shielding to pay homage to smash bros franchise!
TMRaven 2 months ago
@TMRaven "Instant Block" is from Guilty Gear... it's also what it was called back in DeS... but nobody used it really so the term floated around in Limbo. If I had naming rights, I would have called it "Ovary Block".
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago
Hmm...I fought Jumilaattori twice in the kiln this week. I lost the first one, but won the second. My win was one sidestep backstab followed by a chained one: he was chasing me with a darkmoon blade enchanted zweihander, as far as I remember. XD
SuperGuyincognito 2 months ago
EWGF, do you host or invade most of the times?
AnonymousBrawler 2 months ago
@AnonymousBrawler I generally invade in the Kiln, but right now... I'm barely playing. I have a job a shit... and these videos are killing my dueling time.
PhantomEWGF 2 months ago