Why can't we bring a dead body back (can be a fly or worm) to life. It has all the necessary complexity. If we repair the damage and restore circulation then according to this theory life should emerge or be restored. No?
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That was not my point.
I am saying that if complexity is all that is needed for life to exist, then why can't we restore a dead body since it already has all the necessary complexity (in the right order and design). Obviously, this is not possible, therefore, complexity + something else = life. You dig?
Again, we could reanimate dead bodies if we could repair all the damage and bring it into an operating state. While for the latter some electroshocking should be enough, we can't do the repair part yet, and that's all there is to it. However, "life" here didn't refer to the individual state of life or death, but to the class of complex phenomena we humans have in hindsight labeled life.
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If someone died of heart damage we can repair the heart (hear transplant). Any resulting brain damage can be minimized by circulating oxygenated blood through the brain. We can do the repairs now for some causes of death. Obviously repair is not enough. Once someone is dead they are dead. There is no coming back. Complexity or not.
Did you even try to understand what I said from "However" on? This movie isn't about the life of the individual, it is about the pattern of life, about biochemistry emerging from quantum mechanics, about selfreplicators and evolution.
Also, if someone stays dead, it's because of some terminal damage in their biological system. *That* is why people die, why they stay dead. As you said yourself: We can do *some* repairs. Not all.
If we could repair the body to a state say 10 minutes before death, the correct "cascade" of states would follow from this initial state and the body would be "back alive". Life is just a process, there is no magic dust to be found inside us, or anything for that matter.
We can currently replaced damaged organs that caused death (the heart) and minimize brain damage. We therefore should be able to bring people back to life. Why don't we???
Brain death is permanent. When a cell dies it is utterly destroyed, and nerve cells do not replicate beyond a certain age. You can not repair cells, only help cells that CAN replicate reestablish and "repair" the damage done to tissue. A brain transplant doesn't work because there is nerve damage to the place you severed the brain from the rest of the nervous system. Adult nerve cells cannot replicate and reestablish a connection to the body. We can only "minimize brain damage" not repair it
stevietster: The damage that you're looking to fix is on the cellular level. You'd have to study up on molecular biology. Your question cannot possibly be answered in 500 characters.
In short, damage begins to build up in cells immediately. It'd be like putting your laptop into a trash compactor & trying afterward to 'fix it'. In terms of biology, your body represents billions of miniature laptops. You'd have to fix most of them to reanimate a person... in other words, entropy is a bitch.
There also the matter of aging that needs to be taken into account. Sure if someone has a heart condition and would die because of it when the rest of their body is healthy you can prolong their life with the surgery, but once the telomeres run out the cell duplication in the body will become more and more erroneous over time leading to failures in all systems. In theory you can alter the gene responsible for telomere production so they get longer and longer, already being worked on with mice.
brilliant.
thirdeyecandy 1 year ago
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DoubleDutchBust 2 years ago
Why can't we bring a dead body back (can be a fly or worm) to life. It has all the necessary complexity. If we repair the damage and restore circulation then according to this theory life should emerge or be restored. No?
stevietster 4 years ago
Yes. Actually, if you continually repaired the body, immortality would occur. However, that is not what "life emerges" means in this movie.
garouHH 4 years ago 2
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That was not my point.
I am saying that if complexity is all that is needed for life to exist, then why can't we restore a dead body since it already has all the necessary complexity (in the right order and design). Obviously, this is not possible, therefore, complexity + something else = life. You dig?
stevietster 4 years ago
Again, we could reanimate dead bodies if we could repair all the damage and bring it into an operating state. While for the latter some electroshocking should be enough, we can't do the repair part yet, and that's all there is to it. However, "life" here didn't refer to the individual state of life or death, but to the class of complex phenomena we humans have in hindsight labeled life.
garouHH 4 years ago 2
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If someone died of heart damage we can repair the heart (hear transplant). Any resulting brain damage can be minimized by circulating oxygenated blood through the brain. We can do the repairs now for some causes of death. Obviously repair is not enough. Once someone is dead they are dead. There is no coming back. Complexity or not.
stevietster 4 years ago
Did you even try to understand what I said from "However" on? This movie isn't about the life of the individual, it is about the pattern of life, about biochemistry emerging from quantum mechanics, about selfreplicators and evolution.
Also, if someone stays dead, it's because of some terminal damage in their biological system. *That* is why people die, why they stay dead. As you said yourself: We can do *some* repairs. Not all.
garouHH 4 years ago 3
Rubbish.
If we could repair the body to a state say 10 minutes before death, the correct "cascade" of states would follow from this initial state and the body would be "back alive". Life is just a process, there is no magic dust to be found inside us, or anything for that matter.
themilitantatheist 4 years ago 4
We can currently replaced damaged organs that caused death (the heart) and minimize brain damage. We therefore should be able to bring people back to life. Why don't we???
stevietster 4 years ago
Brain death is permanent. When a cell dies it is utterly destroyed, and nerve cells do not replicate beyond a certain age. You can not repair cells, only help cells that CAN replicate reestablish and "repair" the damage done to tissue. A brain transplant doesn't work because there is nerve damage to the place you severed the brain from the rest of the nervous system. Adult nerve cells cannot replicate and reestablish a connection to the body. We can only "minimize brain damage" not repair it
ericv00 4 years ago
stevietster: The damage that you're looking to fix is on the cellular level. You'd have to study up on molecular biology. Your question cannot possibly be answered in 500 characters.
In short, damage begins to build up in cells immediately. It'd be like putting your laptop into a trash compactor & trying afterward to 'fix it'. In terms of biology, your body represents billions of miniature laptops. You'd have to fix most of them to reanimate a person... in other words, entropy is a bitch.
CO2Junkie 3 years ago 3
There also the matter of aging that needs to be taken into account. Sure if someone has a heart condition and would die because of it when the rest of their body is healthy you can prolong their life with the surgery, but once the telomeres run out the cell duplication in the body will become more and more erroneous over time leading to failures in all systems. In theory you can alter the gene responsible for telomere production so they get longer and longer, already being worked on with mice.
rainbowofhazes 2 years ago
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
mosbackr 3 years ago
No.
PoJonez 3 years ago
Google: nova science now video, and go to the first result to see more clips from the series.
theinquisitor 4 years ago
Interesting series, thanks for posting.
Brianswers 4 years ago
I think the next 30 or so years are going to be very interesting in relation to scientific discovery.
Clutchology 4 years ago
Incredible science won't stop there.
GeneticistAtheist 4 years ago
Very interesting! Thanks for uploading this.
FunkyJogaBonito 4 years ago
Greetings Dr. Falken. Do you want to play a game? How about global thermal nuclear war?
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Amazing science.
Kaszely 4 years ago 2