Why would someone want the Hop-Up unit integratet into the Gearbox? That only Slows down the Disasembly...someone wanted to tell me that there is no airleak anymore if its integrated...but the only Airlos that can Occur in the Hop-Up Chamber is at thwe Hop-Up Bucking, not between the CHamber and the Gearboxshell...just use a strong spring to push the hbucking onto the Nozzle, and you are good to go
@andromedarr thats not what this box is about though...prowin boxes are indestructible so no more v2 cracked boxes. And it really doesnt slow down disassembly to much...take the upper off and 1 plastic clip holds the barrel...what it that maybe, 4-5 seconds more.
@andromedarr no, they dont even make these anymore and they are nearly impossible to find...but if you use a v3 box then you really dont have to worry about it cracking anytime soon.
I was curious weather or not you used a Li-Po until the end, should have known that it would use something higher. And here the guys as ASGI say high ROF setups are unstable and un-doable. They need to look at this Gbox
@BioHaZaRd396 Ye, But Systema Turbo & Magnum suck, they have a design flaw. The light anodizing is the only thing keeping it from short-circuiting. and the anodizing wears @ use. I've seen more than 5 systema magnums cut off because of this. Guys. DO NOT BUY SYSTEMA MOTORS. Guarder INFINITE TORGUE UP = BETTER THAN SYSTEMA MAGNUM, and also way cheaper. I wouldn't pay $80 of a motor that isn't durable.
@Laofse i agree, systemas are SOOOO not worth the money.. go get a 5ku, element, or SHS motor thats a high speed for 30bucks... outlasts and outperforms systemas. and a third of the price
ProWin and other really high end gearboxes seem to me take a bit of realism out of airsofting. I'm not dissing it or anything, but at some point the prices will go down so low that eventually little kids would be buying these, spraying each other with guns that almost sound like Gatling guns, and scare the hell out of the rest.
It sounds more like a buzz these days as it shoots faster. You can probably just spray and play.
you know prowin is the gearbox, not the internals. Get it right, no kid is even going to learn how to make a gearbox himself and maintain it (besides me).
geosky19 is right I live in Tennessee and I play on the Bad Karma field and we have a couple local teams the Spartans and the War Pigz; both get their guns from Nashville Airsoft. All their guns shoot 500+fps at over 20 rps. Airsoft has turned into a money game, whoever has the money to put the best upgrades in their guns WILL WIN. You simply can't keep up with a CA that shoots that hard that fast with a JG or an ECHO1.....
I know he is right, but he should know that it is the owners of these guns that upgrade them to these over-killed setups. Its not that a company is going to give you all of this into a nice complete package, this guy just put in different parts rather than getting a complete drop in gb.
well actually you can considering echo1 guns come stock around 380 fps and ca come in around 340-360 fps, and both with about the same rof, the only difference is reliability where the ca excels, but you shouldn't buy cheap clones regardless!
i know, i diddn't mean for it to come across as an argument, altho i was sort of correcting your comment in saying that most CA's now a days come more in the 330's but minus that i diddn't try to start anything more than a statement in saying that CA FTW
oh ok lol, and really its hit or miss i bought a ca bb m4 and it was crankin 380 out of the box, but i've also bought ca m16's that only shot 280 out of the box.
You dont know who you are talking to, im not a noob. But after thinking a while, yes, its possible. Intellect 9,6V 4600mAh battery, RiotSC highspeed gears, g&p m120 highspeed motor or systema turbo, mosfet switch, swiss cheesed g&p white piston with right catch height and good wiringss, its really possible. I dont know why I wrote that comment :D
yea, i'm sure he's got triple high speed gears, short stroking the piston wont add on that much, but with a proper shim job, a systema turbo, and m90 or m85 spring, you can achieve this, or probably well over this. to tired to list specific parts, if you want to know what it takes to get a rof that high using a ca or tm reinforced g/b, shoot me a pm.
You can also go to airsoft forum, and i'm there as aimfor1337, an airsoft tech.
Errr, no, the piston will be taking the majority of the damage mate. All gears do is spin, the piston is flying backwards and forwards some 40 times per second. Having said that, pinion gears can be funky at those sorts of speeds.
did you hear sudden "clack" sounds when the mag was almost empty? those were "misfeeds",
which means the ROF is too fast for the magazine's flat spring to catch up. this set-up needs a sector chip and/or a stronger mag spring. jing gong mag springs for AK mags are good and cheap choices for a replacement.
Not quite mate... he will certainly have a sector chip in there to feed at ALL. Misfeeding near the end of the springs power is perfectly normal in ANY AEG. The fact he managed to shoot a very respectable amount of rounds before the spring ran out of power says it all.
In fact, it has very little to do with the spring at ALL. Note that when you pull back the BB catch of a fully wound hicap, it simply sprays out a few BBs, and makes a whirring noise. The feeding wheel cannot pick up BBs fast enough to discharge the whole mag in a mater to seconds (like a low or madcap can). This happens to a lesser extent at high RoF: you get less and less BBs feeding per full wind, because the wheel struggles to feed a constant stream of BBs.
well you got your upgrades and set ups, i got mine...thing is: i aldready made up a set up to my AEGs mags and sector gears so no more misfeeds even if the high caps would almost run out...and i use 2300mah...11.1v li-pos cool?
Looks like it has a lot of feeding issues.
InfinitePhasesFilms 1 month ago
I don't know what stock you're running, but all that extra wiring is just more resistance. Not much, but enough to affect performance.
Invincible960 1 month ago
really... a hi-cap? please tell me it is a joke, or you mocking little kids.
ryandonian 2 months ago
holy shit
monsimand 4 months ago
Tomahawk Battery!
xEcl1pseSn1p3rx 6 months ago
Where can you get these?
Thatonekid131 9 months ago
@ertgunner there are a few reasons why, i'm not explaining how a gearbox works just to answer your question though. Just suffice to say it's bad
EscapistGaming 10 months ago
@ArcticPuffinSG explain how dry firing wears out the gearbox?
ertgunner 10 months ago
Why...
WAKMtheOfficial 10 months ago
Why would someone want the Hop-Up unit integratet into the Gearbox? That only Slows down the Disasembly...someone wanted to tell me that there is no airleak anymore if its integrated...but the only Airlos that can Occur in the Hop-Up Chamber is at thwe Hop-Up Bucking, not between the CHamber and the Gearboxshell...just use a strong spring to push the hbucking onto the Nozzle, and you are good to go
andromedarr 11 months ago
@andromedarr thats not what this box is about though...prowin boxes are indestructible so no more v2 cracked boxes. And it really doesnt slow down disassembly to much...take the upper off and 1 plastic clip holds the barrel...what it that maybe, 4-5 seconds more.
usmcsniper92 9 months ago
@usmcsniper92 Do they make V3 Gearboxes too?
andromedarr 9 months ago
@andromedarr no, they dont even make these anymore and they are nearly impossible to find...but if you use a v3 box then you really dont have to worry about it cracking anytime soon.
usmcsniper92 9 months ago
@andromedarr O, and when they did have them they cost about $250
usmcsniper92 9 months ago
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andromedarr 9 months ago
that was sick...
imagine that against a sniper 150ft away. 300bbs vs 1 single headshot. LOL
exsterenpro 11 months ago
can you still get these gearboxes
cheeselover109 11 months ago
LOL ....
KKSpII 11 months ago
@ArcticPuffinSG which is why he wasn't dry firing. if you watched the video, you would see the bbs actually feeding into the hopup.
ryandonian 11 months ago
@ryandonian you're right... how the hell is the hopup on there without the upper?
EscapistGaming 11 months ago
@EscapistGaming it's incorporated into the custom gearbox. verrry custom.
ryandonian 11 months ago
COVER FIRE XD
blackwaterairsofteam 1 year ago
What specs? I have a 8mm Gearbox Too, and i want to get something like that, no matter what Price!!
andromedarr 1 year ago
omfg
popcorn007xbox 1 year ago
rofl holy shit that's fast
I was curious weather or not you used a Li-Po until the end, should have known that it would use something higher. And here the guys as ASGI say high ROF setups are unstable and un-doable. They need to look at this Gbox
InvokeZero 1 year ago
@InvokeZero High ROF setups are far from undoable and can be stable, if you know what you are doing and use high quality parts.
Laofse 1 year ago
sounds like an air compressor lol
lilham10809 1 year ago
I SEE A GUY UP ON THE HILL!!! *shoots* Oh shit out of ammo...
dingbat667 1 year ago
GOD HOW I WANT ONE
TheFinalFrame 1 year ago
i just came
DTopper48 1 year ago
ahhh the magic of Systema turbo motors...
BioHaZaRd396 1 year ago
@BioHaZaRd396 Ye, But Systema Turbo & Magnum suck, they have a design flaw. The light anodizing is the only thing keeping it from short-circuiting. and the anodizing wears @ use. I've seen more than 5 systema magnums cut off because of this. Guys. DO NOT BUY SYSTEMA MOTORS. Guarder INFINITE TORGUE UP = BETTER THAN SYSTEMA MAGNUM, and also way cheaper. I wouldn't pay $80 of a motor that isn't durable.
haronasi 1 year ago
@haronasi guarder motors are great but they have a pretty high lemon rate
sergantsnipes16 1 year ago
@BioHaZaRd396 You don't need a Systema turbo to get this kind of ROF, it's possible with cheaper motors.
Laofse 1 year ago
@Laofse i agree, systemas are SOOOO not worth the money.. go get a 5ku, element, or SHS motor thats a high speed for 30bucks... outlasts and outperforms systemas. and a third of the price
parthbla000 1 year ago
holy shit
obivlon 1 year ago
WTF i think this gun shoots 100bbs in 3sec omg so fast holy
999boom777 1 year ago
holy fu*k WHAT IS THE RATE OF FIRE ON THAT SH*T
PointyCheese 1 year ago
where can i get one of those
Wiggling 1 year ago
wow.... there would be 100 rounds in you before you could yell "HIT"
airsoftmasta102 2 years ago
holy SHIT, that's a MINIGUN
Aurelia249 2 years ago
Wow, that is awesome, I'd take that anyday! Wish mine shot that fast! Smooth too!
mfiwarrior 2 years ago
lawnmower
PickofDestiny08 2 years ago 19
what in the hell kinda gear box is that???
dam if it was myne it would have cracked the first 3 shots
ichewtoast111 2 years ago
what piston are you using in that thing??? is there a sector clip????
incrediboy729 2 years ago
Target is gunna be fucked
Speedeers 2 years ago
That thing must misfeed like crazy
wyderskibart 2 years ago
unrealistic ROF. > Waste of ammo
Cougar545x39 2 years ago 4
nice bat,GP Cells are amazing. Is there an AB fet on that?
AquaDonkey 2 years ago
hahahahaha i was just watching the bb's cycling in. wow.
Piglip011010 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT! I bet that gearbox would never break/crack on you!
BTW: Nice RoF :P
lol
Kkr3wK 2 years ago
what kind of wires are you using
markolo25 2 years ago
wen u went to full auto my gum fell out of my mouth
zaglerules 2 years ago
Holy fuck in a box!!! So...sexy...
loadedeasy2 2 years ago
ProWin and other really high end gearboxes seem to me take a bit of realism out of airsofting. I'm not dissing it or anything, but at some point the prices will go down so low that eventually little kids would be buying these, spraying each other with guns that almost sound like Gatling guns, and scare the hell out of the rest.
It sounds more like a buzz these days as it shoots faster. You can probably just spray and play.
geosky19 3 years ago 2
you know prowin is the gearbox, not the internals. Get it right, no kid is even going to learn how to make a gearbox himself and maintain it (besides me).
Personist1156 2 years ago
geosky19 is right I live in Tennessee and I play on the Bad Karma field and we have a couple local teams the Spartans and the War Pigz; both get their guns from Nashville Airsoft. All their guns shoot 500+fps at over 20 rps. Airsoft has turned into a money game, whoever has the money to put the best upgrades in their guns WILL WIN. You simply can't keep up with a CA that shoots that hard that fast with a JG or an ECHO1.....
nthnkilgore 2 years ago
I know he is right, but he should know that it is the owners of these guns that upgrade them to these over-killed setups. Its not that a company is going to give you all of this into a nice complete package, this guy just put in different parts rather than getting a complete drop in gb.
Personist1156 2 years ago
well actually you can considering echo1 guns come stock around 380 fps and ca come in around 340-360 fps, and both with about the same rof, the only difference is reliability where the ca excels, but you shouldn't buy cheap clones regardless!
kevinwearspradadood 2 years ago
actually CA's come more like 330's and they are far better than half the shit on the market today CA FTW 4 life
fanofCOH 2 years ago
what is our argument? i like classic army, and own a couple of them, i never said anything bad about ca...
kevinwearspradadood 2 years ago
i know, i diddn't mean for it to come across as an argument, altho i was sort of correcting your comment in saying that most CA's now a days come more in the 330's but minus that i diddn't try to start anything more than a statement in saying that CA FTW
fanofCOH 2 years ago
oh ok lol, and really its hit or miss i bought a ca bb m4 and it was crankin 380 out of the box, but i've also bought ca m16's that only shot 280 out of the box.
kevinwearspradadood 2 years ago
I agree, why has every put negative markers on this guys comment?
DWINTERS14 2 years ago
ahh idk i guess sometimes the truth hurts, lulz but thanks for backing me
kevinwearspradadood 2 years ago
Well what you're saying makes complete sense, ignore these fucking desk jockeys
DWINTERS14 2 years ago
i want a prowin but tere hard to find
Evanespant 3 years ago
@Maekiii--- For noobs like you it's not!
@tallandme13--- make up your mind! LOL!
moknoy200 3 years ago
You dont know who you are talking to, im not a noob. But after thinking a while, yes, its possible. Intellect 9,6V 4600mAh battery, RiotSC highspeed gears, g&p m120 highspeed motor or systema turbo, mosfet switch, swiss cheesed g&p white piston with right catch height and good wiringss, its really possible. I dont know why I wrote that comment :D
Maekiii 3 years ago
Don't forget the short stroke.
pilerheritage 2 years ago
short stroking is the least of his worries.
OSU5312 2 years ago
no its not u idiot
ryanismastagmail 3 years ago
ROF like that with 100 spring and a high speed gearset is achievable even with a 9.6v battery. C'mon whats amazing with that?
moknoy200 3 years ago
No, its not.
Maekiii 3 years ago
that would be a 10.8v battery
tallandme13 3 years ago
my mistake, its a 12v battery
tallandme13 3 years ago
holy jesus where do you get those
randomaznkenny 3 years ago
god with us!!!
Prohart1 3 years ago
13 volts battery? Damn man!
Sahagunense 3 years ago
OMG
donut808 3 years ago
wow u would get cared away and bonus shoot someone lol over kill!!!!!!!!!!
ADHDFilmsJR 3 years ago
Dood! Someone stole half of your gun!.
zm634 3 years ago 22
=O Bye bye BBs!
DecimusKrieg 3 years ago 3
what is gear,motor,pison,spring?.....
lee1hy 3 years ago
what sort of motor are you using man? That pro win gearbox fuckin rocks it all
atimisk01 3 years ago
how much one of the 8mm gearboxs go for? do they make them for M4 style aeg?
doubletapm4 3 years ago
if i fought him alls i would say is "fuck this". if he had a drum mag, he would strike fearinto everyone
HorseTranq12 3 years ago
damn prowin is awsome
TinyBaller 3 years ago
holy shit, that WAS a high cap?
addicted2pinball 3 years ago
no doubt :)
Grzywa1988 3 years ago
vorrei tanto sapere se una batteria come quella me la regge il mio G&P originale
mickidb00 3 years ago
kinda looks like it would jam alot but damn that was fast rof
SideBurns2007 4 years ago
where do i get a HK 413?
milo yi
milo94619 4 years ago
dont it will break very easily it will EXPLODE it is a stock JG that shoots 420 fps
dangerboy3082 3 years ago
what the jg hk 416? stop being biased that gun is one of jgs best it DOESN'T break and he meant 416
Jarek4 3 years ago
nah that sounded like about 30ish cycles a second .
xxthedrizzlexx 4 years ago
30? Rubbish, that was absolutely 40+rps. MY AEG does 32, and doesn't even come CLOSE to the sound that thing makes.
Corvid 3 years ago
They are ratly, so it sounds way worse than it is.
rabz777 2 years ago
Wasn't feeding very well, atleast with a minigun you'll fire all your bbs
cncgeneral 4 years ago
it fed just fine
Petzlfan 3 years ago
i think it's faster than an airsoft minigun
papercut1987 4 years ago
yep
Petzlfan 3 years ago
sounds scary.
they7692 4 years ago
yea, i'm sure he's got triple high speed gears, short stroking the piston wont add on that much, but with a proper shim job, a systema turbo, and m90 or m85 spring, you can achieve this, or probably well over this. to tired to list specific parts, if you want to know what it takes to get a rof that high using a ca or tm reinforced g/b, shoot me a pm.
You can also go to airsoft forum, and i'm there as aimfor1337, an airsoft tech.
Aimfor1337 4 years ago
someone tell me what he has in that setup to get that sort of rof.. what would the fps be firing at???
sutoto 4 years ago
well over 40 rps.
doubt you can find mags that will keep up.
azn1stknightsoul1 4 years ago
Decent (read: not King Arms!) midcaps would feed well, but I'd like to know what hicap he used for the video, it barely missed a shot!
Corvid 3 years ago
12 volt batt, super high ratio gears, short stroke piston, ball bering bushings, im i right? i know im close. =]
airsoftcrazy456 4 years ago
WOW. What motor are you running with that?
hkmp5roxs320 4 years ago
Excellent but short life (Gear damage quickly)
iam980 4 years ago
Errr, no, the piston will be taking the majority of the damage mate. All gears do is spin, the piston is flying backwards and forwards some 40 times per second. Having said that, pinion gears can be funky at those sorts of speeds.
Corvid 3 years ago
did you hear sudden "clack" sounds when the mag was almost empty? those were "misfeeds",
which means the ROF is too fast for the magazine's flat spring to catch up. this set-up needs a sector chip and/or a stronger mag spring. jing gong mag springs for AK mags are good and cheap choices for a replacement.
jjstiphens 3 years ago
Not quite mate... he will certainly have a sector chip in there to feed at ALL. Misfeeding near the end of the springs power is perfectly normal in ANY AEG. The fact he managed to shoot a very respectable amount of rounds before the spring ran out of power says it all.
Corvid 3 years ago
In fact, it has very little to do with the spring at ALL. Note that when you pull back the BB catch of a fully wound hicap, it simply sprays out a few BBs, and makes a whirring noise. The feeding wheel cannot pick up BBs fast enough to discharge the whole mag in a mater to seconds (like a low or madcap can). This happens to a lesser extent at high RoF: you get less and less BBs feeding per full wind, because the wheel struggles to feed a constant stream of BBs.
Corvid 3 years ago
well you got your upgrades and set ups, i got mine...thing is: i aldready made up a set up to my AEGs mags and sector gears so no more misfeeds even if the high caps would almost run out...and i use 2300mah...11.1v li-pos cool?
jjstiphens 3 years ago
Nice. I must put this in my HK416
Deeez7127 5 years ago