6000 fpm descent is nothing special. I do it every time I fly an a320 as ATC hold us high almost every time we approach my home airfield. There's a rather nifty button on the glareshield with EXPED (Expedite Descent) on it. Hit it and pop the air brakes up and down you go.
Kudos for tracing down the flight log, but this is a very normal procedure. They may have been cleared to a lower altitude to avoid headwinds, or for spacing. In any case, a 6000 FPM descent is well within the aircraft's capabilities while maintaining passenger comfort.
guys the second one is obviously a380 you can see the breaks in the aileron of the LAF system that is only found on the a380 out of all airbus aircraft
one the 380 was at the begining and when it was actually the speed brakes coming on it was a damn southwest 737 dont play with me... im not dumb a a380 wing is huge... i know what a 737 wing looks like dummy
@abefergy For you: Compare the photos of an A380 and a 737 wing. Look at the detail and you'll notice that you wont find any 737 wing which has the characteristics of this wing.
@abefergy That's definitely an A380 wing. Notice the second to last faring with a fuel jettison nozzle, find me a picture of a 737 with one of those. Also, you can see the outboard engine much farther out on the wing than a 737.
@abefergy This is 100% an A380 wing....If you look at the wingtip, it's completely different than the 737 one which has a winglet also the wing is too thick ( length and width wise) to be a 737, do your research before commenting dumb things and then arguing them
@abefergy Hmm.... You should improve your recognizing skills... Compare to other videos of the A380 with flaps retracted, and from the upper floor. Maybe you'll see the same thing ;) And even if it wasn't an A380, it's still a rapid descent.
so did you descend to 30,000ft or 28,000ft? because FL300= 30,000ft, not 28,000
and descending 10,000ft in 2 minutes is nothing in an aircraft of that size. simple math tells me thats a 5000 ft/minute descent rate. you're basically doing the climbing at the same rate on climb out and i don't see many youtube vids of people shitting their pants over that.
Might be an A380 BUT that flight log you show. Southwest 463 - when do Southwest fly airbuses????? You sure you have the right airline? Southwest have both a flight 463 and 468. I think you are gilding the lilly as they say to make this more exciting. At least get the flight log right...
I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
@75426168 why A330? because it looks so small? Have you ever been at the upper floor of an A380? I guess not, because then you would have known that from the window you can only see a very small part of the wing
These "dives" aren't too uncommon. I've had to perform them myself a few times, using full flight level spoilers. (The spoilers are even higher after touchdown, however, in flight they can't be raised that high as it would cause severe drag and disruption). These descents are the result of busy skies. Unless you want a delay, you have to do as the ATC says to get to the airport in the scheduled time window. Sometimes that requires a faster than normal descent at a higher airspeed.
this actually happened to me once too,in a Boeing 757 somewhere over the greek islands we had a rapid decent due to rapid decopression in the cabin, the pilot just killed the throttles and put full spoilers on! i bricked myself tbh.
That flap (spoilers) names I N T E R C E P T O R :) 1. speed break, in-flight. 2. Landing, airflow dropper, reduces the cross section of the wing = does not allow the plane back/jump in the air!
OMG lol guess what! Before even I clicked it I knew it was Air France. One of the biggest mistake I made in my life was taking Air France from NYC-Dubai via Paris. I had the most terrible experience in the plane. Pilots do such stuff that you can't understand why do they want to do that. Its like they mess with your brain so you stay UP no matter how long is ur flight. When I was over Atlantic the accident that happened with airfrance while leaving brazil was replaying in my head. THEY JUST SUCK
@lrmafia1 haha of course you do. ok so what 4 engine aircraft has those types of winglets except the A380. That is an A380 for definately because I have flown on one with Emirates.
What was the reason for the plane descending so quickly? Was there other air traffic in its path, or was it a weather-related issue? Just wondering because it just doesn't seem normal.
Spoilers are usually used if pilots want to descend rapidly and maintain a certain airspeed because as the aircraft's nose pitches down, airspeed increases
@doc7austin I did film this video. I recommend you to look at pictures of wings of other planes and then tell me what plane you are seeing here. It is an A380 wing.
@doc7austin Yes it is definately an A380 wing! Don't listen to these amateurs lol! oh and the spoilers were deployed to reduce the TAS which is a sign of a rapid decent, most likely to avoid turbulance or another aircraft flightplan. The spoilers were set to in-flight (arouund 50%) not full. great video though :)
@doc7austin you must be brain dead. I know more about planes and aviation in general then most average people. That is a Airbus A380 wing. I know it when i see it. So stop saying its not because it is.
@doc7austin he wanted to reply to 11esky, but for some reason when u hit a reply to him, it goes to u because you re in the conversation. He obviously dont know enough about planes to tell what wing it is, if he was serious and didnt really think its an a380, he would at least say what plane he thinks he is seeing and why.
@doc7austin the only thing I can`t explain though is why part of the video is shot from the different side of the aircraft..the only fishy thing about this video, if you can explain I`l be happy.
@KrazyTrain18 Well, the first video was shot out of a small window in the door while walking through the main floor; the second video was shot from my seat on the upper floor
@11esky Look at the two rows of windows and the 4 huge Rolls Royce engines. It's a A380 pluse it's wings are not small they only look like that on the camera.
when it comes to international flights, the flight tracker may not be correct or reliable... but the fact is that these descents on long-haul flights is normal, its a rather steep descent but airlines differ with procedures.
The comments - you hear in the background of the video - are NOT my comments; i dont have such a strange voice; as you can read in the video description I name them Speedbrakes/Spoilers, which for me are the same hardware devices
The comments - you hear in the background of the video - are NOT my comments; i dont have such a strange voice; as you can read in the video description I name them Speedbrakes/Spoilers, which for me are the same hardware devices
The video doesn't show any deep dive. Don't know where you got your level informations, if it's from flight aware, there are big chances that these informations were wrong. Anyway, no ATC control may require a 6000ft/min descent, in any case. So FL400 to 28000ft or FL280, whatever, shouldn't have been made within 2 mins.
@AreaQNH870 obviously you don't understand piloting you right that FL stands for flight level but the number stand for what flight level your flying at meaning the altitude so FL300 is 30,000ft
@tburden09 Yes, but its 30,000ft in a standard atmosphere with 1013 set in the subscale, as opposed to TRUE altitude, which would account for density and pressure.
what the hell are you talking about. Altitudes above 17,999 FT are considered Flight Levels in the US as this video was taken. FL's start at different altitudes all over the world.
Yeah descent is normally fast in the US as they try and get you down as soon as possible. I went to use the toilet and there was a queue.. Once I got back to my seat we had descended to 15,000ft from FL360 pretty quick but once again perfectly normal.
@HKS134 lol I wasn't following your sarcasm. I was affirming that, and adding the fact that wings on A and B are quite easy to identify, but something went wrong and got misunderstood.
It is an Airbus A380! I recorded the wing from the upper lever. From here one cannot see the full wing. You are free to compare the wing structure of the 777-300 or 757-200 to that of an A380. You will find out that this is indeed an A380
@Motorthusiast Planes have a Vne (speed never exceed) because this is past the planes designed structural speeds. If you exceed Vne and then move a control surface, you risk severe structural damage to the aircraft. You can stall the plane at any speed correct, but this is due to the angle of attack of the airflow relative to the wing, not the speed of the air.
@geardown3greens Vne is a never exceed speed because the plane is structurally damaged if you pass it. nothing to do with moving control surfaces passed the speed. just saying...
@ramboormark If you re-read what I wrote I said "Vne (speed never exceed) because this is past the planes designed structural speeds" I then continued to say " If you exceed Vne and then move a control surface, you risk severe structural damage to the aircraft." two different statements, one defining Vne and one explaining a situation involving it.
Easy to recognize, Airbus widebodies 330/340/380 has their fuel dump drain mast at the rear end of the flap-tracks like this one.
Compare to Boeing B747/767/777 they have their fuel dump drain mast between the flaps & the aileron.
Another place to recognize is that the A380 has its inboard & outboard aileron at the wingtip (usual place), Not like Boeing that has his inboard aileron (between the flaps) and an outboard aileron close to the wingtip.
LoL at everyone saying FL300 isnt 28000ft. They can be the same. Anyone whos actually knows about aviation will tell you that FL300 is taken from a standard pressure of 1013mb and is used for cruise seperation above transition altitude, whilst 28000ft is a true altitude and taken from the pressure setting of the area (QNH).
@Afrofighter Yeah, but the way this guy is assuming FL300 is 28000 ft. doesn't seem like a calculated true altitude. Also notice that he assumes FL400 to be 40000 ft. which again means no calculations. I would like to hear his explanation if anything other than a mistake.
@samborlon This is true, perhaps when they were at FL400 the QNH was the same as standard pressure and then changed once they were down to FL300? Was just saying that it could happen, no idea if it actually did in this video. Guess we may never know :P
@Afrofighter Might be but difficult. FL300 is 30,000ft and FL280 is 28,000ft any aircraft flying above transition level between 4,000 to 18,000ft depending on the country sets STD pressure. To have 2,000ft difference on STD to QNH should be from 29.92(inHg)// 1013.2(Hpa) to 27.82 (inHg)// 942.1 (Hpa) and in the video it doen't look like that low pressure.
@AF401 what you say is correct, I was merely pointing out that it is possible. Unlikely but still possible. As for whether that is what is happening in the video is a different matter because, as with most things on the internet, its difficult to extract the truth to anything. But good to talk with someone who knows what they are talking about.
@Afrofighter : flightlevel 300 is equal to 28000ft true alt if , the local QNH over the region you are flying is hell looooot less then STD 1013. indicated FL / true ALT is never the same.
@Afrofighter But he says FL 400 for 40 000ft (True Altitude) and FL300 for 28 000ft (True Altitude), both of these are above transition altitude. So if FL300 is 28 thousand shouldn't FL400 be 38 thousand in the same area with the same barometric pressure
@117zoomzoom I believe the 30.xx you are referring to is inches mercury, standard pressure being 29.92 inHg (please correct me if I am wrong). If you want to be pedantic, hectopascals and millibars are exactly the same. I do not wish to be a smartarse but statements need to backed up with explanation. Not just "no its not".
Your plane probably had a a straight in to the runway approach, and had to burn off its speed and altitude. Most approaches are done in a dog leg fashion, ie left turns un til you line up with the runway, and the plane burns off its speed in that manner. However if your plane is given a staraight in appraoch landing, it has to burn off its speed in a staraight line and land with out making turns. Thats what this looks like to me. Normal .
It's a bit much. The pressurisation struggles to change that quick, hence you can still get sinus issues.Not to mention the vibration from having the speedbrake out, we don't want to put it out unless there is good reason
It's clear a hell of alot of so called pilots here are not. 6000FPM is uncomfortable for everyone and not a good idea (normal airliner ROD is 2000+/-). If ATC issued an instruction requiring me to loose 12000' in 2 mins I would reply 'unable'. Oh, and in the event of depress, you do not put the bloody gear down (idiot). incidentally the max ROD I could get in an emergency would be about 6-7000 FPM. 10000 a min is not possible (unless you are about to crash AF A330)
Could've been a reason for the descent. Maybe there was another plane in the airspace that he was trying to avoid.
snowboarder8985 6 hours ago
6000 fpm descent is nothing special. I do it every time I fly an a320 as ATC hold us high almost every time we approach my home airfield. There's a rather nifty button on the glareshield with EXPED (Expedite Descent) on it. Hit it and pop the air brakes up and down you go.
Stangelycoloured 4 days ago
Kudos for tracing down the flight log, but this is a very normal procedure. They may have been cleared to a lower altitude to avoid headwinds, or for spacing. In any case, a 6000 FPM descent is well within the aircraft's capabilities while maintaining passenger comfort.
freakybuzz 5 days ago
It's and A380 wing. Compare what you see here to this other video on YouTube called "The wing of A380".
rockhardliver 6 days ago
Seems a little fishy to me
crazym26 6 days ago
All you know it alls...This IS an A-380 wing.
TechMaven 1 week ago
guys the second one is obviously a380 you can see the breaks in the aileron of the LAF system that is only found on the a380 out of all airbus aircraft
Cessna1541 1 week ago
one the 380 was at the begining and when it was actually the speed brakes coming on it was a damn southwest 737 dont play with me... im not dumb a a380 wing is huge... i know what a 737 wing looks like dummy
abefergy 1 week ago
@abefergy For you: Compare the photos of an A380 and a 737 wing. Look at the detail and you'll notice that you wont find any 737 wing which has the characteristics of this wing.
doc7austin 1 week ago 8
@abefergy That's definitely an A380 wing. Notice the second to last faring with a fuel jettison nozzle, find me a picture of a 737 with one of those. Also, you can see the outboard engine much farther out on the wing than a 737.
frauspi 1 week ago
@abefergy This is 100% an A380 wing....If you look at the wingtip, it's completely different than the 737 one which has a winglet also the wing is too thick ( length and width wise) to be a 737, do your research before commenting dumb things and then arguing them
KrazyTrain18 1 week ago
@abefergy Southwest is the heading dummy !!!!
AirAtlantaAndFsx357 6 days ago
@abefergy It wasn't southwest Anyway, there wasn't red on the wing
Randomness84726 6 days ago
@abefergy Yes, you is a dumb! Shut up. That's an A380
cmtecestari 6 days ago
@abefergy Wtf?
RANDOOMSHIT 6 days ago
@abefergy Hmm.... You should improve your recognizing skills... Compare to other videos of the A380 with flaps retracted, and from the upper floor. Maybe you'll see the same thing ;) And even if it wasn't an A380, it's still a rapid descent.
AudioSim 5 days ago
so did you descend to 30,000ft or 28,000ft? because FL300= 30,000ft, not 28,000
and descending 10,000ft in 2 minutes is nothing in an aircraft of that size. simple math tells me thats a 5000 ft/minute descent rate. you're basically doing the climbing at the same rate on climb out and i don't see many youtube vids of people shitting their pants over that.
d1chet 1 week ago
why so many dislikes?
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Might be an A380 BUT that flight log you show. Southwest 463 - when do Southwest fly airbuses????? You sure you have the right airline? Southwest have both a flight 463 and 468. I think you are gilding the lilly as they say to make this more exciting. At least get the flight log right...
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I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
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I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
AGrandt 1 week ago
I've been in a B747-400 doing this as well. In that case it seemed they had to land at Cape Town airport right away, rather than fly around the cape and land from the west.
It is an efficient way to lose altitude fast, while maintaining airspeed. It is a bit startling though :)
AGrandt 1 week ago
the first wing is of an a380, the second one is probably an a330
75426168 1 week ago
@75426168 It's an A380. Look at the segmented control surfaces on the outer half of the wing. That is definitely an A380 wing.
AGrandt 1 week ago
@75426168 why A330? because it looks so small? Have you ever been at the upper floor of an A380? I guess not, because then you would have known that from the window you can only see a very small part of the wing
doc7austin 1 week ago
@doc7austin
ok sorry, i guess you're right, but from this view it looks similar to an a330 wing...
75426168 1 week ago
This is really not that big of a deal
smack300 1 week ago
Also mate, you might want to fix your description. FL300 is 30,000 feet, not 28,000 feet. When you can, just make sure to correct the discrepancy.
jonstewartforprez 1 week ago
These "dives" aren't too uncommon. I've had to perform them myself a few times, using full flight level spoilers. (The spoilers are even higher after touchdown, however, in flight they can't be raised that high as it would cause severe drag and disruption). These descents are the result of busy skies. Unless you want a delay, you have to do as the ATC says to get to the airport in the scheduled time window. Sometimes that requires a faster than normal descent at a higher airspeed.
jonstewartforprez 1 week ago
I dont know why non pilots find it so impressive and post about routine things such as a rapid decent.
trooper744 1 week ago
this actually happened to me once too,in a Boeing 757 somewhere over the greek islands we had a rapid decent due to rapid decopression in the cabin, the pilot just killed the throttles and put full spoilers on! i bricked myself tbh.
hendi1011 2 weeks ago
Is there some sort of dictionary in the states that spells the word 'definitely' with an a? Just wondering.
Nunkifrutz 2 weeks ago
This has gone soo off topic in the comments cause of a couple dumbass fucks who say this is not an a380 lol
volcom1722 2 weeks ago
what a fucking idiot. Stop uploading crap..
overlandpark6me 2 weeks ago
so the flight went well?
ebychi 2 weeks ago
this is the wing of a cessna 172...
DaMagicConchShell 2 weeks ago 5
@DaMagicConchShell fk that made me laugh.... lol
trooper744 1 week ago
That flap (spoilers) names I N T E R C E P T O R :) 1. speed break, in-flight. 2. Landing, airflow dropper, reduces the cross section of the wing = does not allow the plane back/jump in the air!
MegaVikkkk 2 weeks ago
what camera are you using - good quality!
BiggerThinking1 2 weeks ago
OMG lol guess what! Before even I clicked it I knew it was Air France. One of the biggest mistake I made in my life was taking Air France from NYC-Dubai via Paris. I had the most terrible experience in the plane. Pilots do such stuff that you can't understand why do they want to do that. Its like they mess with your brain so you stay UP no matter how long is ur flight. When I was over Atlantic the accident that happened with airfrance while leaving brazil was replaying in my head. THEY JUST SUCK
TAJIKROCKS 2 weeks ago
Yes these are A380 wings , I have been to the factory were they are built and watch them being built , for definate this aircrAFT IS A a380
SleepEat3D 2 weeks ago
Isn't this just the plane nearing descent altitude before landing?
DohaRoha 3 weeks ago
Why would a plane have to make a 6000fpm descent anyway?
denelson83 4 weeks ago
these are not wings of A380 but the wings of BATMAN
321Huan 1 month ago 12
i have a lot of experience in these matters. these are indeed not a380 wings but the wings of a fruit bat
DuskbatRabbit 1 month ago
I FLY THE A380 AND THAT IS NOT AN A380 WING
lrmafia1 1 month ago
@lrmafia1 then you're not an attentive pilot.
i gotta disappoint you, that is definitely an 380 watch here:
/watch?v=wQ-igqVJSR8&feature=related
additionally the a380 is the only aircraft which has three parted ailron.
sorry dude
bruchpilot747 4 weeks ago
@lrmafia1 On flight sim, perhaps.
joepatroni77 4 weeks ago
@lrmafia1 haha of course you do. ok so what 4 engine aircraft has those types of winglets except the A380. That is an A380 for definately because I have flown on one with Emirates.
prussell890 3 weeks ago
Spoiler are the second control surface that the Airbus FBW controls on a wing other than the ailerons.
aeroturc007 1 month ago
What was the reason for the plane descending so quickly? Was there other air traffic in its path, or was it a weather-related issue? Just wondering because it just doesn't seem normal.
kenpalmer1965 1 month ago
IT IS NOT A380 MORONS!!!!! THIS IS 90% A330 AND 10% A340
gloryths 1 month ago
Spoilers are usually used if pilots want to descend rapidly and maintain a certain airspeed because as the aircraft's nose pitches down, airspeed increases
andy4b767 1 month ago
Those are speed brakes that where sticking up on the wing and generally you have to descend that was not that rapid
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kostov9 1 month ago
@11esky what airplane is it then? i honestly have enough of people doubting that this is an A380 wing.
doc7austin 1 month ago 5
@doc7austin I did film this video. I recommend you to look at pictures of wings of other planes and then tell me what plane you are seeing here. It is an A380 wing.
doc7austin 3 weeks ago 5
@doc7austin Yes it is definately an A380 wing! Don't listen to these amateurs lol! oh and the spoilers were deployed to reduce the TAS which is a sign of a rapid decent, most likely to avoid turbulance or another aircraft flightplan. The spoilers were set to in-flight (arouund 50%) not full. great video though :)
prussell890 3 weeks ago
@doc7austin this is so an a380 my father is a traine pilot for this mofo :D
mw2orblackops 2 weeks ago
@doc7austin you must be brain dead. I know more about planes and aviation in general then most average people. That is a Airbus A380 wing. I know it when i see it. So stop saying its not because it is.
bobac1083 2 weeks ago
@bobac1083 Excuse me; I made this film and I was stating that this was an A380 wing. Why do you call me brain dead?
doc7austin 2 weeks ago 7
@doc7austin he wanted to reply to 11esky, but for some reason when u hit a reply to him, it goes to u because you re in the conversation. He obviously dont know enough about planes to tell what wing it is, if he was serious and didnt really think its an a380, he would at least say what plane he thinks he is seeing and why.
alekos84 1 week ago
@doc7austin the only thing I can`t explain though is why part of the video is shot from the different side of the aircraft..the only fishy thing about this video, if you can explain I`l be happy.
KrazyTrain18 1 week ago
@KrazyTrain18 Well, the first video was shot out of a small window in the door while walking through the main floor; the second video was shot from my seat on the upper floor
doc7austin 1 week ago
@doc7austin alright, I totatally forgot about the porthole on the doors, anyway nice video
KrazyTrain18 1 week ago
i can see clearley now its not an a380 :)
11esky 1 month ago
@11esky yeah? how?
kostov9 1 month ago
@kostov9
look at the small wing
11esky 1 month ago
@11esky Look at the two rows of windows and the 4 huge Rolls Royce engines. It's a A380 pluse it's wings are not small they only look like that on the camera.
just type A380 in Google and see what come's up.
kostov9 1 month ago
when it comes to international flights, the flight tracker may not be correct or reliable... but the fact is that these descents on long-haul flights is normal, its a rather steep descent but airlines differ with procedures.
Swissflier101 1 month ago
Very noticeable, the angle of decent is very apparent! nice upload. Thanks.
aky19832001 1 month ago
so what?
flightoftheunknown 1 month ago
The comments - you hear in the background of the video - are NOT my comments; i dont have such a strange voice; as you can read in the video description I name them Speedbrakes/Spoilers, which for me are the same hardware devices
doc7austin 1 month ago
Not flaps, these are spoilers or speed brakes.
oseano10 1 month ago 9
@oseano10
The comments - you hear in the background of the video - are NOT my comments; i dont have such a strange voice; as you can read in the video description I name them Speedbrakes/Spoilers, which for me are the same hardware devices
doc7austin 1 month ago
@doc7austin Ok. Everything correct. But still not flaps, that's what I meant.
oseano10 1 month ago
@doc7austin no speed brakes and spoilers are 2 different things.
AirlinePilotguy5 1 week ago
@doc7austin Yes you do!
BlackMasterRoshi 1 week ago
@oseano10 Actually just spoilers, speedbrakes look like that:
en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/File:Eurowings_bae146-300_d-aewb_arp.jpg
ThePTChem 2 weeks ago
@ThePTChem Well, let's say they are spoilers acting like speedbrakes, then.
oseano10 2 weeks ago
@diablo. FL 400 is 40000 ft.
PsychoSmurfxD 1 month ago
Who is shouting flaps? lol. Give them the ISBN of a good aviation manual.
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cristychubaful 1 month ago
rapid descent because everyone was video taping during flight lol
pele42891 1 month ago
using speedbrakes is a waste of energy, pilot should commence descent early enough not to use them
rangelso 1 month ago
@rangelso you dont know why he had to descend at that rate there will have been a good reason for it
emson1988 1 month ago
Seems normal to make a step dive to JFK with A380 i also got it with Airfrance but np.
anice1983 1 month ago
The video doesn't show any deep dive. Don't know where you got your level informations, if it's from flight aware, there are big chances that these informations were wrong. Anyway, no ATC control may require a 6000ft/min descent, in any case. So FL400 to 28000ft or FL280, whatever, shouldn't have been made within 2 mins.
Sorry mate, wrong infos ;-)
TheAirproxx 1 month ago
Nah trust me FL300 is 30,000 feet
tburden09 1 month ago
@tburden09 FL is a FLIGHT LEVEL. 30,000 feet is an ALTITUDE. The End.
AreaQNH870 1 month ago
@AreaQNH870 obviously you don't understand piloting you right that FL stands for flight level but the number stand for what flight level your flying at meaning the altitude so FL300 is 30,000ft
tburden09 1 month ago
@tburden09 Yes, but its 30,000ft in a standard atmosphere with 1013 set in the subscale, as opposed to TRUE altitude, which would account for density and pressure.
AreaQNH870 4 weeks ago
@AreaQNH870
what the hell are you talking about. Altitudes above 17,999 FT are considered Flight Levels in the US as this video was taken. FL's start at different altitudes all over the world.
zseartcc25 1 week ago
@zseartcc25 Thanks for that. Now, how does this relate to what I was saying? Thats right, not at all. Thank you for your input.
AreaQNH870 6 days ago
@AreaQNH870
It makes perfect sense. Wake Up
zseartcc25 6 days ago
Also may I add the Speedbrakes would be up to stop the plane going into any kind of Overspeed while descending at a rapid rate.
HeathrowSpottingHD 1 month ago
Yeah descent is normally fast in the US as they try and get you down as soon as possible. I went to use the toilet and there was a queue.. Once I got back to my seat we had descended to 15,000ft from FL360 pretty quick but once again perfectly normal.
HeathrowSpottingHD 1 month ago
i bet all their ears were popping like crazy
Stunnedstudios 1 month ago
the like/dislike bar is even
MrKyvegas00 1 month ago
@MrKyvegas00 i ruined it!!!
FlyGuyPerson 1 month ago
flaps? Spoilers, my dear boy.
phantomloita 1 month ago
After touchdown the groundswitch engages, activating groundspoilers. These deflect further then spoilers in flight.
EzraVertommen 1 month ago
Since when A380 is an Boeing 777-300 or B 757-200? ;)
HKS134 1 month ago
@HKS134 It is an A380. The wings differences between A and B are pretty easy to identify.
AF401 1 month ago
@AF401 I am very sorry for you bcuz U cant read LOL
HKS134 1 month ago
@HKS134 lol I wasn't following your sarcasm. I was affirming that, and adding the fact that wings on A and B are quite easy to identify, but something went wrong and got misunderstood.
AF401 1 month ago
It is an Airbus A380! I recorded the wing from the upper lever. From here one cannot see the full wing. You are free to compare the wing structure of the 777-300 or 757-200 to that of an A380. You will find out that this is indeed an A380
doc7austin 1 month ago 3
@doc7austin it's not an 777 or 757 because of the flaps structure so as the floaters
leonardopaintball 3 weeks ago
I WAS IN A AC130 ON COD ONCE
MurdokDubstep 1 month ago
@Motorthusiast Planes have a Vne (speed never exceed) because this is past the planes designed structural speeds. If you exceed Vne and then move a control surface, you risk severe structural damage to the aircraft. You can stall the plane at any speed correct, but this is due to the angle of attack of the airflow relative to the wing, not the speed of the air.
geardown3greens 1 month ago
@geardown3greens Vne is a never exceed speed because the plane is structurally damaged if you pass it. nothing to do with moving control surfaces passed the speed. just saying...
ramboormark 1 month ago
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@ramboormark If you re-read what I wrote I said "Vne (speed never exceed) because this is past the planes designed structural speeds" I then continued to say " If you exceed Vne and then move a control surface, you risk severe structural damage to the aircraft." two different statements, one defining Vne and one explaining a situation involving it.
geardown3greens 1 month ago
Just another anti A380 vid.
TRUTHFUL105 1 month ago
if not an A380, what aircraft is it then?
doc7austin 1 month ago 5
@doc7austin its looks to me like its a 777-300 or a 757-200 series aircraft
1212shero 1 month ago
@1212shero Well all planes aren't made by Boeing
iliveonjupiter 1 month ago
@iliveonjupiter i really like boeing and dont like airbus so to me most planes look like Boeing
1212shero 1 month ago
@1212shero I really like Aibus, because their planes are safe, but I like Boeing, but I can notice the difference
iliveonjupiter 1 month ago
@1212shero Only Airbus A380 has ailerons divided into 3 parts in each wing.
raykrislianggi 1 month ago
@doc7austin That's an A380!
Easy to recognize, Airbus widebodies 330/340/380 has their fuel dump drain mast at the rear end of the flap-tracks like this one.
Compare to Boeing B747/767/777 they have their fuel dump drain mast between the flaps & the aileron.
Another place to recognize is that the A380 has its inboard & outboard aileron at the wingtip (usual place), Not like Boeing that has his inboard aileron (between the flaps) and an outboard aileron close to the wingtip.
BigDaddyLicious 1 month ago
@BigDaddyLicious Oh I forgot to ad this part... A380 ailerons has 3 parts. A330/340 is in 2 parts.
BigDaddyLicious 1 month ago
@doc7austin ITS A CESSNA 172
matthewfreire28 1 month ago
@doc7austin A330
gloryths 1 month ago
This is not an A380
MegaKeLa97 1 month ago
@MegaKeLa97 Yeh it is!!! I fly the A380 every week for Singapore Airlines
Mrhorse97 1 month ago
@MegaKeLa97 If you don't know, it's better not to comment at all. Even at first glance I can tell it is an A380.
raykrislianggi 1 month ago
Interesting video.
Transfusions 1 month ago
CRAPY VIDEO!
simfgta 2 months ago
LoL at everyone saying FL300 isnt 28000ft. They can be the same. Anyone whos actually knows about aviation will tell you that FL300 is taken from a standard pressure of 1013mb and is used for cruise seperation above transition altitude, whilst 28000ft is a true altitude and taken from the pressure setting of the area (QNH).
Afrofighter 2 months ago 48
@Afrofighter Yeah, but the way this guy is assuming FL300 is 28000 ft. doesn't seem like a calculated true altitude. Also notice that he assumes FL400 to be 40000 ft. which again means no calculations. I would like to hear his explanation if anything other than a mistake.
samborlon 1 month ago 2
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Afrofighter 1 month ago
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@samborlon This is true, perhaps when they were at FL400 the QNH was the same as standard pressure and then changed once they were down to FL300? Was just saying that it could happen, no idea if it actually did in this video. Guess we may never know :P
Afrofighter 1 month ago
@Afrofighter Might be but difficult. FL300 is 30,000ft and FL280 is 28,000ft any aircraft flying above transition level between 4,000 to 18,000ft depending on the country sets STD pressure. To have 2,000ft difference on STD to QNH should be from 29.92(inHg)// 1013.2(Hpa) to 27.82 (inHg)// 942.1 (Hpa) and in the video it doen't look like that low pressure.
AF401 1 month ago
@AF401 what you say is correct, I was merely pointing out that it is possible. Unlikely but still possible. As for whether that is what is happening in the video is a different matter because, as with most things on the internet, its difficult to extract the truth to anything. But good to talk with someone who knows what they are talking about.
Afrofighter 1 month ago
@Afrofighter : flightlevel 300 is equal to 28000ft true alt if , the local QNH over the region you are flying is hell looooot less then STD 1013. indicated FL / true ALT is never the same.
sidaslida 1 month ago
@Afrofighter But he says FL 400 for 40 000ft (True Altitude) and FL300 for 28 000ft (True Altitude), both of these are above transition altitude. So if FL300 is 28 thousand shouldn't FL400 be 38 thousand in the same area with the same barometric pressure
diablovt108vt109 1 month ago
@diablovt108vt109 if you are in a flight level(FL) always the barometric pressure will be 29.92 in Hg
leonardopaintball 3 weeks ago
@Afrofighter nope, you are wrong. FL300 is always 30,000...
iRacingWrecks 1 month ago
@iRacingWrecks Maybe stick to virtual racing
Afrofighter 1 month ago
@Afrofighter actually mb would be something like 30.xx and that went out decades ago, you're referring to hPa.
n.b. if you're going to be a smartarse, i will too
117zoomzoom 1 month ago
@117zoomzoom I believe the 30.xx you are referring to is inches mercury, standard pressure being 29.92 inHg (please correct me if I am wrong). If you want to be pedantic, hectopascals and millibars are exactly the same. I do not wish to be a smartarse but statements need to backed up with explanation. Not just "no its not".
Afrofighter 1 month ago
@Afrofighter finaly someone who knows what they are talking about!
Lindahl 2 weeks ago
Maybe the spoilers were deployed because the pilot accidentally pushed a lever while having sex with the co-pilot?
Jipperdejipable 2 months ago
You're a nerd.
flanksteak2 2 months ago
FL300 28000ft ???
i don't wanna live in this planet anymore :/
EgyptBoy2011 2 months ago
@EgyptBoy2011 lololol. its ok. just don't try to understand something with so little information.
ramboormark 1 month ago
Not the flaps u moron he is going down its the airbrake
MickNJ1979 2 months ago
One word. Stall.
MoustachesAreEpic 2 months ago
FL300= 30,000ft.
FL280= 28,000ft.
FL400= 40,000ft
GtaCd321 2 months ago
since when is FL300 28000ft? ;)
muigaulwurf 2 months ago 15
@muigaulwurf LOL
jmillsf18 2 months ago
@muigaulwurf why is it bad for the FL300 to be 28000ft ?
jfr3sh4lyfe3 2 months ago
@jfr3sh4lyfe3 FL300 is 30,000ft. If they were at 28,000ft they would be at FL280. They are two different altitudes altogether.
2008Flyboy 2 months ago
@muigaulwurf metrics..metrics..
fernfeyes 2 months ago
@muigaulwurf Oh boy
AreaQNH870 1 month ago
sorry *straight
OKINAWA78 2 months ago
Your plane probably had a a straight in to the runway approach, and had to burn off its speed and altitude. Most approaches are done in a dog leg fashion, ie left turns un til you line up with the runway, and the plane burns off its speed in that manner. However if your plane is given a staraight in appraoch landing, it has to burn off its speed in a staraight line and land with out making turns. Thats what this looks like to me. Normal .
OKINAWA78 2 months ago
@OKINAWA78 NOT FROM FL400 MORON
jmillsf18 2 months ago
WTF
jhar88 2 months ago
my ears hurt just watching this.
missylissyable 2 months ago
Maybe they ran into some CAT and decided to get lower to get out of it.
Richiedabull1 2 months ago
It's a bit much. The pressurisation struggles to change that quick, hence you can still get sinus issues.Not to mention the vibration from having the speedbrake out, we don't want to put it out unless there is good reason
captrobd2 2 months ago
It's clear a hell of alot of so called pilots here are not. 6000FPM is uncomfortable for everyone and not a good idea (normal airliner ROD is 2000+/-). If ATC issued an instruction requiring me to loose 12000' in 2 mins I would reply 'unable'. Oh, and in the event of depress, you do not put the bloody gear down (idiot). incidentally the max ROD I could get in an emergency would be about 6-7000 FPM. 10000 a min is not possible (unless you are about to crash AF A330)
captrobd2 2 months ago
@captrobd2 Why is it uncomfortable to descend 6000fpm?
ICEGTN 2 months ago
@captrobd2 Out of curiosity...what aircraft do you fly Sir and how many hours on that type??
Neanderthalmanny 2 months ago
I didn't hear anyone scream so it couldn't have been that rapid!
rayandjoanne 2 months ago
they were probably running wilco A380 :P
FlyUPS767 2 months ago
if the engines Give weak thrust , they decend quickly and try to Troubleshoot the problem
FSXgeeek 2 months ago
@FSXgeeek
sorry the opposite you do fly with minimum sink rate to obtain a long distance/time for flying!
THE HIGHER YOU FLY ...... THE LONGER IS YOUR LIFE!
ThePilot314 2 months ago
he said flaps,but its spoilers
limagabriel68 2 months ago