Tech : Apple Lisa {25 Years Later}

[THExARCTICxFALLOUT]

They were like "Fuck USB... Let's go USA!"

[RocknRollForever21]

Yeah, but will it blend?

[deneb71090]

I want to play MW3 in lisa

[MADMANx511]

Wow that thing is loud. Can you imagine a whole office full of these things?

[movingtargetfan]

imagen the update for ios5.1

[isuckatstarcraft96]

Lol period. I wish I could trick it out to play SC2.

[Nikitos253]

but will it blend?

[longdanzi4]

10 MB?! DUDE!!! Paint is biggewr than tht!!

[kch51000]

Thumbs up for the PowerBook G4 in the background!

[MrHarrison246]

@kch51000 Dude its a mac pro powerbooks don't have built in webcams

[kch51000]

@MrHarrison246 Oh, sorry, and the Mac Pro is a desktop but I get what you mean...

[xKeXax]

DAMN! Fastest computer in history? Amazing. Will be awesome to play Battlefield 3 and Fifa 12 on it :P

[NUqpUN]

10mb HDD ! OH SHIT NICE

[runescaper1333]

Thumbs up if you're watching this on a Lisa

[Leolwo1]

so dose it do "multitasking"?

[cutiemay36]

where do u get an apple lisa. i want one!!

[mrsaccount]

I'm watching this video on my Lisa...... INCEPTION

[andrei9444]

I want one ! This computer is actually better (i mean, not faster, but more reliable) than actual Windows PCs...

[MinecraftCountry]

But will it blend?

[09pcgamer]

lol it sounds like he is still trying to sell it :)

[texasboy2084]

the fan sounds like a jet engine compared to fans today lol.

[GrugDude]

Wow, this really shows how much we have advanced. Everyone remember, back then this was a good system.

[jimshadyy2]

10 MB lol

[Superarragon5]

It's a great computer except for the screen... The grey thing passing over the screen is annoying. It had amazing capabilities back in the day, so it would be worth slot and computers were new back then...

The longer it's around, the cheaper it is!

Today's computers are fairly cheap compared to $10,000!

[RodmanIsASadPanda]

@Superarragon5 The grey lines are from the camera

[DJDeCiBeL01]

@Superarragon5 As @RodmanIsASadPanda said, it's because of the camera. It's picking up the refresh rate of the CRT screen, and any time you record a CRT at any other refresh rate than 60hz, you'll see that same effect (in varying degrees, depending on on what refresh rate you happen to be recording at. 30hz or actually 29.97, is the most common)..

[imakedookie]

i want to overclock it

[wayner8088]

It's hard to believe this computer cost over $10,000 back in 1983....

[Caio569]

More useful than an Ipad

[LordDraco2010]

and think all of this for around $10,000

[adiblasi]

@LordDraco2010 I was out of my mind buying one back in the day with the 'Apple Developer Discount' -- I think my cost, on the newer, revised Lisa 2 / Mac XL system, was around $4,500. Geez.

[longdanzi4]

@adiblasi Apple Developer Discount: ADD. :D

[MrMarcosgarcias]

10 mg



[bigniewreliga]

watching this vid on my lisa system!!

[tzimis95]

chuck noris plays Cod-Mw3 online in lisa..1985

[SweetMonia]

@tzimis95 With who?

[tzimis95]

@SweetMonia with Bruce Lee :p

[SweetMonia]

@tzimis95 Lool.

[Comp4nionSphere]

that's great but can it run Minecraft?

[klebbs1988]

that thing used to be white ? heavy smoker

[deadballo]

I almost bought one in 1993 for $100

[c9lb82]

thanks al, i have been watching all your videos, i am a very big apple enthusiast and i am very impressed.

[shuntedbywing]

Hey thanks for the video mate. really enjoyed it. dont think ive ever seen such a good run down of the Lisa system.

[Beef1188]

Modern day computer manufacturers should be ahsamed of themselves! None of modern day computer manufacturers had such long lasting hardware!

[FloribellaVsDB]

A 10 Mb hard-disk..... How epic sound???? This Lisa is a legendary machine! :D

[vLeggy]

steve's ex wife name was LISA so he named after :P

[vinmisra]

@vLeggy No it was his daughter's name

[wellivea1]

240p ??

[didogazeto]

@wellivea1 240p !!

[snooterpuff]

Why does all old white stuff turn yellow?

[sonicawesomeness]

A MOUSE? AMG. WHERE AM I.

[venick8827]

yeah good,but can it run battlefield 3?

[Liftorangejuice]

@venick8827 no, it can´t

[patricky555]

@venick8827 i hope it runs minesweeper

[Marylandbrony]

@venick8827

Yes battlefield -3

[PortalJumper98]

but can I watch youtube on it? hehe

[TechnoTV100]

the lisa has 8MHz not GHz hahahahaha

100,200 gigs of ram,only 1mb of ram hahahah

[Eneru89]

Actually faster than Vista

[Eneru89]

1 MB!!! i love technology

[dennyny8]

This is actually the Lisa 2 with the 400k 3.5" Sony floppy drive and the internal 10MB 5.25" Hard Drive. This machine was later re-bagged as the Apple Macintosh XL for just a few months for the remaining inventory of parts. According to all accounts, the speed on this system is 5mhz - not 6.8mhz as mentioned. Also, the machine was white - it is beige due to age. The first Macintosh only had 128k of memory - 1MB is huge in comparison.

[andresgvasquez]

Can I play Crysys 2 on it?

[bernardo774]

nice job!



[jwhite8789]

Holy crap! 10 megs in that beast? Hard to believe that technology has come so far. Now they sell 1 terabyte drives that can fit in your pocket!

[PhatPhunk]

Hey Alfred! Totally enjoyed this video! Thanks for introducing Lisa and her capabilities! I've never seen or heard about her during my childhood/teens. Heck I only came to know about her after watching Pirates Of Silicon Valley! I'm very amazed by the engineering feat that Apple did back in '83!! Controlling the brightness via software? Wow! Thanks again =)

[L2DragonHunter]

what would happen if u replaced that 10mb hdd to 2TB lol

[MegaCuber1]

the lisa is like the windows vista operating system

[VRock121]

video quality still sucks 25 years later

[bloodaid]

damn, imagne what a smartphone can do compared to that

[mikmik20099]

wow 1mb of ram. :)

[Anonimous000000]

27 years!

[yukiharvestfans]

Apple give him Lisa and Plankton give me Karen ;)

[Algotify]

Peapole made better computers in minecraft.. xD

[Syllablekillers]

DAM~~~~~!!! 10 MB HARD DRIVE XD

[zaivatsu]

no manches 1 Mb de ram tenia la mac lisa y solo 10 Mb de disco duro

[hoooooooooooooooo]

@zaivatsu Es un ordenador de principios de 1980. Ninguna otra maquina que pudieras poner en un escritorio tenia una memoria tan grande en aquella epoca.

[zaivatsu]

no manchen q hacian con 10 miserables Mb no manches jeje lo q es el avance de la tecnologia :p

[Aaronmogi]

Thumbs up if you are younger than that Mac.. :D

[synadude]

@Aaronmogi It's not a Mac.

[nathanjames098]

i have a apple lisa

[twistwist777]

Nice review man! Thanks!

[adiblasi]

@twistwist777 Hi Ivan - glad you liked it. It was one of the very few 'serious ones' that was not laden with bad jokes, poor camera work, and mis-information. Check out the NeXT video as well -- and you can see the roots of Apple's OS X.

[dragon8143]

why not sell the item 4 money

[adiblasi]

@dragon8143 I like having it in my office -- it's a keeper.

[dragon8143]

gosh thats what apple looked like back the 25 years ago holy sh!t

[nuschger2]

@dragon8143 that looked god in the 80s

[adiblasi]

@nuschger2 Let me tell you something -- the FIRST time I saw the LISA system, my comment was "What the f__k did I just see? Was that from a downed alien spaceship?" Understand that everything I used before that was basically a prompt with green letters on a black screen! LOL!

[adiblasi]

@dragon8143 Yes, that beige plastic was in back then!

[campaingboy73]

im watching this from os x. :)

[zerosumgamez]

Very impressive demonstration of this legendary product. Thank you.

[adiblasi]

@zerosumgamez Thanks, Z. I just booted in a few months ago -- it still works! :)

[zerosumgamez]

@adiblasi My wife just told me you actually look better now than two decades ago.

[adiblasi]

@zerosumgamez Agreed - I take it as a compliment! LOL!

[lucylovesguitar]

@adiblasi It's true. You're super hot. :D Fine wine. Better with age!

[iAlfred34]

@lucylovesguitar Thanks, Lucy.

[MichaelMaleszyk]

i bought a lisa for $200 at a garage sale XD lucky ass me!

[leddenpc]

Ahhh don't take it apart you'll void the warranty lol

[macbookfan33]

@jamuz1234 there will be a time paradox that will destroy the whole universe!!

[johnnydicamillo]

No I remember my apple lisa running at 6 GHz that is 6 GHZ!!!

[NHdylan]

wish i could afford that 

[ratchetandclankf]

Notice the MacBook.

[redtrolly]

Apple has been making all-in-ones long before the iMac came out

[zowxon]

It's great to finally see one of those things running. I remember drooling over magazine articles back in the day, thinking I'd never be able to afford such an awesome machine.

[videoproducer100]

great video! It is funny how nowadays our phones, and maybe our watches :P are faster than it.

[texmexman1]

that macintosh gray is the ugliest color ever

[JamuZ1234]

what if i take my MacBook to year 1983 .. and show in it to steve jobs..

[Fudmottin]

What a blast from the past! I remember coveting the Lisa as a kid and only getting the use of a family Mac 512k. Programming on the Mac with the Aztec C compiler was, um, interesting.

[FeeLtheHertZ]

Nice man and very composed review herel haha, not all crazy like in your other "reviews", a beautiful peice of equimpent indeed

[adiblasi]

@FeeLtheHertZ Hello - yes, this video, and the NeXT Cube video, were purposely done in a different manner and tone, since these are two great pieces of history. Now the TAM/20th Anniversary unboxing video -- well, that's a different story. LOL! I hope you continue to enjoy the content - Alfred.

[TheMrbum]

This is very interesting and I agree with you, this computer is very advanced for it's time.

[6Cozmik9]

can this lisa run Grand Theft Auto IV

[ArtypNk]

1mb of ram.... I have 4GB in my laptop. All the advancement in my lifetime. Sheeeeeit....

[SeltsamerAttraktor]

@ArtypNk Yeah, in 25 years from now, the machines will own us xD

[luigi90900]

Is that the same Lisa?

[thelyniezian]

I've read some of the earlier versions had two 5.25" floppydrives, and the hard drive was an external extra.

[TheJoshuaPChan]

Wow that is one very old system. And are you sure its 10MB and not 10GB? That seems a little small. Not that 10GB isn't already small. Lol

[thelyniezian]

@TheJoshuaPChan Computing was around before the 21st century, you know, and we were working with hard drives a lot smaller than anything in the gigabyts (an old Acorn machine I had had around a 128MB hard drive, and that worked just fine). Software was a lot smaller and more light-weight in those days, and granted probably didn't have all the features. Also machines didn't do everything we expect them to do nowadays- for the Lisa, it seems just basic word-processing and simpl monochrome graphics

[thelyniezian]

@thelyniezian (10MB could hold the complete works of Shakespeare as a text file and still have room to spare, BTW).

[thelyniezian]

@thelyniezian I think it was intended as a business machine, so mainly letters and short reports would be the order of the day, not great works of literature... 10MB probably is more than adequate (which is why I asked if the OS boted from the hard drive- along with software, how much space did it take up?)

[thelyniezian]

@TheJoshuaPChan I guess that 10GB is only"small" nowadays as we expect our hard drives to store whole films, our entire music and photo collection to boot!

[Phenom69ll]

boot time 1:32.. wait.... wth? my vista takes 2 minutes tu turn on?! SO THATS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD! :D

[thelyniezian]

How much could you manage to usefully fit on a 10MB hard drive with this thing? And does it boot from the hard drive or floppy?

[TheJoshuaPChan]

@thelyniezian I think he means 10GB instead of 10MB Lol. I also don't think floppy disks can hold an ISO and have a machine operate from them.

[thelyniezian]

@TheJoshuaPChan ERm... this machine is from the 1980s, when gigabytes were pretty much unheard-of, at least on microcomputers. It is possible to run a machine off a floppy as well, though modern ISO images would of course be too large (as would an modern OS)- but older OSes could.

[TheJoshuaPChan]

@thelyniezian If the floppy drive is in use to hold the OS and to be read off of, how is data supposed to be transfered? I doubt FTP servers were very popular back then either so If the OS is run off a floppy ISO, I suppose it wouldn't be a very easy process considering removable media devices weren't much around as well.

[thelyniezian]

@TheJoshuaPChan Either the core functionality is in ROM, or the OS is simply loaded into memory. I don't know too much about the Lisas or even vintage macs (my only experience with old Apples being he earlier Apple II+) but I've used DOS on standard PCs enough to know that you can get basic OS functionality without the OS floppy in the drive, you just can't get all of the functions. It is very difficult to run a machine on one floppy drive and nothing else, admittedly.

[luigi90900]

Kan I haz TAM plz?

[CoolDudeClem]

Oh yes, let's see Lisa naked! Sorry, couldnt resist that, but seriously I love old computers, and find them interesting ,from ZX Spectrum to Amiga and everything in-between. Just wish I could find some round my area, I regret tossing out my Amstrad ,C64, Spectrum and IBM 8086 I was sutch a fool back then for doing that.

[adiblasi]

@CoolDudeClem Hi Clem - ohh, yes, you had some nice retro stuff there. I was sorry to discard a box of original IBM PC keyboards -- you know, those incredible keyboards back in the day. They would have made nice collector pieces in a frame LOL. I did save a fair amount of stuff, and I hope to be showing more later this year. Thanks for watching. - Alfred.

[linkdead2008]

I have never seen someones head so far up steve jobs ass. apple lisa is not amazing.. ( the xerox gui that steve jobs and bill gates stole was amazing) megabyte of memory did not cost 2 grand. you think a iphone *costs* steve jobs 500$ lol more like 5 $. you are all slaves, rise up~! dont accept the internet getting censored!

[adiblasi]

@linkdead2008 Link, you idiot - for 1983, the LISA system WAS amazing. And yes, known fact that LISA was inspired by what they saw at Xerox; they didn't steal code, Apple wrote the code inhouse; blame the assholes at Xerox NY for 'Fumbling the Future" (iexcellent book on how Xerox blew it); 1 Meg of memory back then cost about $5,000; of course Apple makes big profits on their hardware. How would your tune change about the slaves? Own some AAPL stock, as I do - I applaud the slaves & fan boys.

[Nicholasc99]

@adiblasi I wonder what it looks like if it crashed on startup with the interrupt button (how a Sad Mac was triggered in a Macintosh) maybe it shows a sad Lisa?

[igortroy]

@adiblasi

the LISA was supposed to be a personal computer/workstation for businessmen, and it indeed had some very impressive hardware for it's time, but a price tag of 10K in 1983 money (which is almost a staggering 30K today!) is just insane.

that's why it failed miserably: you could probably buy a giant mainframe with that kind of money back then. there's nothing "personal" about it

if anything, the LISA is a lesson how NOT to sell computers. something "overprice" Apple have yet to learn

[hoooooooooooooooo]

@igortroy Capitalism and "cost" stop the evolution of technology.

[igortroy]

@hoooooooooooooooo

no they don't.

every new piece of technology may - at first - have an insane price-tag, but trying to sell it then, and for that price is just pure greed. pure stupidity. pure Apple.

let's say you are trying to sell a couple of top-of-the-line, ultra-high-end PCs for 10000$ each today. how many people will be interested? one? that's just poor business thinking. others will just wait a few years until your machines cost half that price. people are not stupid.

[hoooooooooooooooo]

@igortroy Do not judge a company (and a person) by their pretentious stupid hipster fans. In a world without money I could make computers with all the memory that I want. But capitalism force to produce goods of poor quality. With limited capacity and dumbed specs. You judge a computer only for their sales?

[igortroy]

@hoooooooooooooooo

a world without money is a primitive ape-world. you need something to tell what a certain object is worth. otherwise, I could just give you a wooden stick and trade it for your super-high-end computer, which you spent months assembling. doesn't sound like a fair trade? well, our ancestors invented money to prevent this kind of thing from happening. to be able to first say "a computer is worth more than one wooden stick", and later "worth THIS MUCH more than one wooden stick".

[igortroy]

@hoooooooooooooooo

I judge a company by their business strategy, and by the percentage of the "pure greed" factor in that strategy.

a computer is a product. you can sell it in a million different ways.

trying to sell the Lisa for an outrageous price is both greedy and stupid business-wise.

and I couldn't care less about Apple's hipster fans (especially considering most of them were not yet born when Apple built Lisa).

[TylerKG123]

@adiblasi

What did Link say? Did he insult the mighty LISA's greatness?

[FeeLtheHertZ]

@linkdead2008 And you just disgraced everybody who actually knows the facts and the beautiful machine this thing is, try getting your head out of your ass and you're a joke if you think it only costs like $5 to build an iPhone, there's no way it's that cheap and like usual you get what you pay for w/ Apple. And Apple revolutionized the industry and you wouldn't be posting nice dumb comments like you did if it weren't for Apple making the GUI what it is today.

Don't be an idiot.

[alex054739]

@linkdead2008 hmm touch display:around 100 bucks, pay programers,:around 75 per hour, pay Chinese workers 5 dollars, harddrive,, lithion batteries;120

so it gets upto 500.

[systematika]

Wow, the refresh rate on this thing is sloooooowww. Now all you gotta do is the atari computers and commodore. :P

[OJxRandomxDouches]

That's just an amazing, old and AWSOME piece of tech. I would run arround the world naked to get one.

[JiveDadson]

I was an associate professor of computer science at Ohio University in '82. I went to a trade show when the Lisa came out. Everyone was abuzz, asking each other, "Have you seen the Smalltalk system?" The only thing I remember about it was how very slow it was. :-)

[Th3beatD0wn]

But will it blend..?

[ImperialProductions]

I got the chance to play with a Lisa at the computer museum I volunteered at. It wouldn't boot, so me and one of the other guys took it apart and found the power cable for the interface board at the top had been ripped out. We got that repaired, and then the floppy drive refused to accept disks, so we had to strip it down and refurbish it.

After that, it worked for five minutes and the hard drive died. It now makes a horrible grinding noise when you turn it on. Not pretty...

[MrBearRoars]

Well, it's user friendly to disassemble

[volure1]

I move on with better computer all computer degrade. In time Even the I7 And AMD Phenom will be a thing of the past.

[TheInformalstyle]

I wish my iMac was as easy to open as the Lisa. It's a pain just to upgrade the Hard Drive.

[Stoned1Guitarist]

Chuck Norris can play COD Blackops at 200fps on that.

[capnbarfy]

@Stoned1Guitarist I love Chuck Norris and all, but...seriously?

[BlackholeLtd]

10 MB hard drive LOL!

[MrDarcyzPP]

Who's not aware that in order to avoid the scan lines situation you have to record video at a different frame rate?

[Kyorere23]

in 25 years this is what we'll think about the mac pro

[MrDarcyzPP]

@Kyorere23 Not likely, the Lisa actually worked.

[gerbilPROJECT]

LOOK AT ME I HAVE 40 MEGABYTES! WOOHOO!

[jmass67]

OMG THE MOUSE IS A POINTING DEVICE?????

[dr4t]

that's not a mouse. that'a rat!

[kevyk135]

Could have apple dominated the market if they shared the software or GUI? They had to wait a long time for thing's to work out. It all makes sense now.

[SergeKGB]

2YK on MAC.

[ArneBergsch]

Wow, 1mb ram, as you said, would be a tenth of the hard drive..

So compared to my current 500gb hdd, this would be 50gb of ram, which would actally be quite awesome!!

Why didn't the RAM develop that way?

[thelyniezian]

Who I wonder designed it so that dates could only be betwen '80 and '95? Surely they didn't need to restrict it that much!

[emtildeath]

Al what have you done?? I can't watch your videos when you are been so serous

[gobipill]

Wow this computer is so slow; mine is so much faster than it lolol

[tetrazonian]

Wow! I thought dinosaurs were extinct!

[juzzyfuzz]

You are cool - and funny.

[200146696]

This Lisa runs faster then my Xp!

[DiesesHausBebt]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

1MB thats mini

[rmj15mu]

A serious question that many want to know.

Why do you think that computers in those days ran faster and booted extremely fast, compared to todays computers?

[revo8778]

Did you work for Apple in the 1980's?

[Bharatwaj89]

its running much faster than my PC..............

[dalbolega]

Now imagine, how much power Lisa would have it it was re-built these days of some high-end components that are used in the latest mba or ipt4g or similar, however still keeping the scale size of Lisa's case.. just different innards. :-)

[TheDevilOnHoliday]

...but can it run Crysis?

[jcecmp]

So, back then what sounds like it would last longer, Lisa or a Apple ?? gee I never thought it could reproduce... get them in a bushel at a time? for sale for real.

[ZeroKlutch]

wow its faster than windows '98