Eternal screams, Church of the damned, shrieks of the tormented and judged, slashed jugulars, entrails eviscerated and freshly-cut, whole men torn limb-from-limb, enormous netherworld monstrosities too horrifically described.
Unthinkable doom for we chosen few, bludgeoned until death does apart, whose untimely demise in honor for naught, vivisection of souls before His rotting throne, horned-shadows as evil as dark, slither before blood-masticated eyes, such is our despair, our unrelenting end.
That's a fucking church!?!... that looks like a fucking stadium!
That makes no sense!
I've been in a megachurch once, I slept over at my aunt and uncle's house, because I was hanging out with my cousin. My aunt to us to church the next day with her family, the church was fucking huge. I was like 8 at the time, so I never really thought about it and thought it was normal. But these things are ridiculous and should be torn down.
I read in a book called The Sinner's Guide to the Evangelical Right that this particular church, Lakewood, is the former stadium of the Houston Rockets.
O.o That megachurch is nothing more than a blatant example of wasted space. That building could have been used for such a better purpose than paying homage to your personal imaginary friend...
My Christian stepdad use to tell my mom that God didn't bless us because she continued to hold a job (to pay for my medical bills because I had both epilepsy and asthema btw [I almost died several times]) instead of trusting God to provide. Now that's screwed up.
im smilling as they're entering the church, all these people together in one place... OMG this is so cool. It would have been unbelievably cool if potholer54 and nonstampcollector where there too but still, this is great.
"my life never had meaning, and i'm okay with that..." that's awesome! i feel the same way! and there are so many fucking "blue laws" in houston it's not even funny.
That church is such a waste of money,resources and time. Just think how much progress could be made if that amount of money was given to research cancer,instead of promoting ignorance and peddling bronze age superstition! I feel bad for you Aron...having to live in a place where unbelievable stupidity not only survives in the 21st century,but appears to be thriving :(
Wait a minute. What? When did "flat earth" even cross my mind? What are you even saying? Yeah, you're obviously trying to sell me something. Whatever equivocation tactic you're deploying to make it seem like you're any less of an idiot is way too apparent. And saying stupid things by saying I'm somehow involved in it doesn't make you any less of a loser. I don't know what science you think I support, but it electricity and gravity isn't real, God help you: you're beyond delusional.
It is very important that we should all go to church as the church is the bride of Christ and the Lord is coming for His bride in the Rapture. Try to find a church which adheres to the Word of God which is the Bible. Jesus is the Way: there is NO other way to the Kingdom of God. 'No one comes to the Father except through Me.' John 14:6.
(Cont) a technique known as radiometric dating, used to date such materials as rocks,usually based on a comparison between the observed abundance of a naturally occurring radioactive isotope & its decay products, using KNOWN decay rates!!! Well, suddenly we have gone from constantly being unable to KNOW the times & dates of when crimes have been committed or not which incidentally are dates such as?.. lets be kind,..1day & fucking that up to KNOWING the age of the Earth! What an incredible leap
@rangoon03 seems you never got the chance to meet with someone intelligent then. Nobody in their right mind KNOWS all those things 100%. There is always a margin of error and we tend to make it the smallest we can. nobody knows 100% but knowing to 99% something is still good to me and is a good start to inspect the remaining 1%.
@rangoon03 And for the O.J. thing, no tribunal declares a person innocent; it's not guilty. The judge couldn't declare the guy guilty with the evidence that were presented before him (or was bought maybe. that can happen too). A guy can be guilty but if the judge can't be convinced, it is all that matters.
Can i make a point i thought often when i was young & believed in neither God nor Evolution. I didn't believe in Evolution because to me it was more arrogant than a belief in a god! Let me explain. OJ Simpson,..was he guilty or not? We all KNOW he was ACTUALLY guilty. Now,... we have experts in each field of society. Law,. Science,.Politics etc etc etc. To believe,.. no we don't believe it we arrogantly KNOW that the Earth is 4.54 billion years. this has been deduced from (tbc)
Funny how a house that is supposed to be under the protection of a being that could create the entire universe in 6 days, still needs a crapload of security... guess they don't have that much faith afterall... just like bulletproof glass on the pope-mobile. Seems like the leaders of the religion put their faith always in security personel and safety glass over God.
Thank you for filming this. However, I now have to wait a while before continuing because I am so nauseated by the twisty-turny stairs in the parking garage.
I think it must be proof that there is a god. He doesn't want me to watch anything remotely connected to reason.
What a racket! We already have a non-profit that helps children live better lives. Seriously considering changing it up a bit and making it's mission to educate children on the benefits of living a life that isnt based on nonsense. We have to break the cycle of religion or we will never have a world that strives for greatness in the here and now. Children will be taught the benefits of logic and reason, instead of hate and isolationalism. Any ideas,comments,and advice will be appreciated.
~Surely~ these mega church pastors must be truly selfish, after all according to Mathew 19:21-24and Mark 10:21-23 they have given up "treasure in heaven" so that they can remain rich here on earth as a "witness" to their sheeple. Of course the poor and homeless that he also mentioned will just have to find some other place to stay the night and seek shelter and food because these people are too busy using the space and money "worshiping GOD" to be bothered with them.
@MrSirwolf2001 Perhaps the poor will just be satisfied with the scraps that fall from the rich tables of this church......Luke 16:19-31....er well, that doesn't end so well for the rich man/church.
re the "in church bookstore" Mathew 21:12 And Jesus entered the temple and CAST OUT all who were SELLING in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and seats of those who were selling doves (sacrafices). And He said to them, "It is written that MY HOUSE shall be called a house of prayer; but you are making it a ROBBER'S DEN." I wonder why Mega churches seem to forget or try to reinterperate this scripture, surely Jesus couldn't mean THEM?
@rkyeun Exactly! Much like Matt Dillahunty I grew up in the church and was actually studying for the mission field. It was the hypocrisy within the church and biblical contradictions (both with itself as well as provable science) and my search for answers that led me to become an atheist. I find it abhorant that preachers at churches like this live like kings and flaunt their distain for the words of Jesus even as they preach them, and yet the sheeple are blinded by their rationalisations.
boy, you better get to that big church early if you don't want to be late. And there's no AC in the shop!!! But my question is: do you have to buy tickets like for a baseball game???
my father pays no child support and only gives me money when I see him, which isn't often, yet he gives a portion of what he makes every year to a church...just now realized how screwed up that is..
@MetalSiicken that's messed up. My GF does the same thing(giving 15% to church) there's no way I can try to tell her not to. I guess it makes them happy.I don't give my kids $ anymore either but I hook them up with bud when they ask(theyre over 18)
@MetalSiicken "my father pays no child support and only gives me money when I see him"
A friend of mine told me about a woman. She was thrown out of her home by her mother when she was 14 because she did not want to confess. Her life become a series of abuse by men. At 40 her mother asked her if she wanted to confess. Now with a 14y old son which was an atheist she raged at her mother at the question and asked her if she had to throw him out. She had forgiven but never forgotten.
Another friend of mine, female. Her mother was a groupie and went pregnant and she was born outside marriage. Due to my her mother religious background her mother got a lot of hell for this from her family, and her mother turned into a drunkard and blamed her daughter for what happen to her. She married, and her daughter was abused by her stepfather - the mother knew but did nothing. My friend then became abused by men almost all her life. This moral disgusts me...
I always found it laughable how Bible churches can get away with selling crap when it was Jesus himself who drove the money changers out of the temple. I remember it not adding up when I was a fundie for 8 years of my life (eight years wasted). The church I used to attend built a coffee shop and had a book section attached to it. All that money spent which would have been better spent (and more Christ like) feeding and helping those in need.
Lol I didn't recognize the hotel until the footage @ 0:44. I stayed in that hotel in 2009 for wrestlemania 25. I took a video exactly like the footage in 0:44. I didn't realize I was afraid of heights until I looked down at the center of the hotel from the top story like its shown in 0:46.
wow this was much worse then any horror movie I've ever seen. Lets get Aron and thunderfoot to preach to them during a full house, now that would be something to behold!
Those of us who know that we are not just meat that expires as ARONRA professes. We believe that there is a God and he is dimensional and that we are a test. However sad is that ARONRA followers ( And I don't hate you I lament that you are the real flat Earth society of the 21'st century) cannot quantify extra dimensional. Make no mistake we all have the chance to prove ourselves to someone WAY beyond our perceptive selves. That is where AronRA fails. And you who follow
Imagine a Nazarean Jew with a Yiddish accent in that store showing them around....
"Moichendizin, Moichensizin...where the REAL money from the Church is made..."
"Jesus the Tshirt, Jesus the coloring book, Jesus the lunchbox, Jesus the breakfast cereal, Jesus the Flamethrower (...the kid's love this one),last but not least...Jesus the Doll (me!) *pulls cord* "The Power of Christ compels you" *kiss* "...adorable".
Its just too bad the "small local" chapel has gone the way of the dodo. In fact I think it would serve the goal of the elimination of fundamental hordes as shown here. The lure of the mob here has a strong psychological impact on those who participate no doubt.
Surely, this effect would still occur if a small group of 30-50 people gathered in a small church but the sheer enormity of the impact on an already "weakened" mind on seeing over 10,000 in a religous fervor must be enormous.
@californiarednek Yes they are, but our church isnt a business, doesnt cost us anything and doesnt get involved in politics (either local or national) In fact we mostly ignore it except for marriages and funerals! What was your point exactly?
@californiarednek He answered you: for marriages and funerals. Many people in Western Europe keep with this tradition, while never going to church on a regular Sunday, and basically not giving much of a crap about religion. During a Sunday mass, most churches are practically empty, most of the attendees are elderly people, and there's a huge problem with what to do with our numerous abandoned churches. They're usually converted into utility buildings for the towns.
@Wotanraven I would like to point out that just for the record I am not trying to flame him, but I do take a certain pride in the separation of church and state. I know the religious fervor seen in this video is sadly more common in america than it should be, but I think you can give rational Americans a little credit.
would love to see you guys go to a mosque and mutter to yourselves about how stupid the people are there. there are people at church who are more than willing to talk to you and answer any questions you may have, but of course you didn't come there to talk to anybody did you? just to spew hatred and criticize. and of course the funding for such a large church *has* to come from some sinister source -because christian organisations dont know how to save money for themselves right? of course, duh!
@wazpoppin9 So the idea that these atheists wouldn't blast their mouths off in a mosque, a place of such radical devotion that opposing views are dangerous, means that a stadium sized church isn't that big a deal? There isn't one extreme, there's varied levels in the ridiculous extents personal belief can go. I also don't see how going to this 'church', keeping and talking amongst yourselves and not bothering anyone is a bad thing. You'd be complaining if the opposite happened.
@NativeAlternative I made no such connection between the size of the church and a mosque, they were two different points I was trying to get at. First, I was saying they are cowards for not going somewhere where their lives would be threatened. Second, I was objecting to their reasoning behind the church's funding. Also, "not bothering anyone"? Please! They were cursing everyone under their breath, it would have been less cowardly if they had discussed their concern man-to-man with people there.
@wazpoppin9 You didn't make the conncection, but that's the point of this video isn't it? "I was saying they are cowards for not going somewhere where their lives would be threatened" W-wow? Really?! See I would call not putting oneself in danger a smart thing to do, especially when it would serve no goal. "They were cursing everyone" point out to me where in the video they did this. Yes, they expressed dismay that so many people unquestionably buy what the preacher has to say. So?
@wazpoppin9 Aside from the fact they'd probably just be asked to leave, why go up to people who didn't come to church to be debated or questioned? Even if it was polite questioning about the funding or how often they go, it just seems more civil to leave people to their own devices. As for the funding, where is this talk of a 'sinister source'? Matt seemed fairly reasonable at 19:10 when he said however much funding they get it takes roughly $250K to run it daily. Where's the malice?
@NativeAlternative How do you think its acceptable that they walk in somewhere just to state how much disdain they have for all the people there without actually confronting anyone for it? You obviously don't know the people of the church. The bible says to be prepared when people confront you about your faith. 2nd- If its OK to do this at a church, surely they'd have the integrity to do it at a mosque as well? But as you correctly point out, it's because they don't want to fear for their lives.
@wazpoppin9 I'll tell you right now go to texas start going up to people and tell them there is no god..your life will be in danger.I don't know too many good christain folk that don't own or even carry a gun.Not defending islam but I bet the rate of gun ownership is much higher among christians.I think they know you don't go to a church in texas or most places for that matter and start talking about being a atheist..you do ,your in danger.funny I doubt the opposite would be true
@wazpoppin9 I think the point the video was making is you have this HUGE church devoted to what seems to be solely the raising of money to support the church itself. Did you not notice how much they said this church requires just to open every week? They have a huge bookstore devoted to the "spiritual growth" of their flock, I'm sure they make a healthy profit, its more or less a captive audience. Once you sucker them into a religious fervor..."Of course I need Jesus coffee mugs".
@wazpoppin9 I never 'spew hatred'. I don't hate. We did talk to people there, but no one would talk to us with the camera on. The people we talked to had no idea that we were atheists. They only knew that our camera man was English, and they told him (without apology) how sad it was that Europeans had "wrong ideas about God".
@AronRa Hi AronRa, i am a Christian who hasn't been gifted with the very depth of intellect as Yourself, Thunderf00t, Matt Dillahunty etc. I will go on record & say i like you all & that in spite of our differences in Theology/Philosophy. My thoughts in regard to those differences are 1) Previous to becoming a Christian i was forced into Catholicism from birth through my parents. I was know to spit on the bible,.swear at Jesus etc. But one unexpected day i met Ian Andrews, a man who knows Jesus!
@AronRa Continued,...Ian Andrews was a man who had a terrible speech impediment that made him stammer terribly. On one occasion literally when he had first started his journey with God (the Living God), God asked him to pray for a women. He had no idea what to do,so made every attempt to guess. What he didnt know was that the woman he prayed for had a few wks to live! She visited the docs who were surprised to see the tumour had disappeared! Another occasion he prayed (TBC)
@rangoon03 "What he didnt know was that the woman he prayed for had a few wks to live! She visited the docs who were surprised to see the tumour had disappeared!"
We know that the immune system kills tumor cells all the time, we also know the strength of the immune system is affected by or mode. In either case, god or not, it can be explained by natural causes. If you want to believe god did it, fine, but there is no need to involve a miracle as the only explanation to such things.
@AronRa in a protestant High Church & against normal procedure he had a vision that he asked if he could give what he believed he received from God. They thought this was very unpredictable & didn't want to let him but they relented. Ian said he had seen something to do with a pine sheet & as he was giving the vision A few women (nuns) began to chatter excitedly saying "that's sister ,.... Ian says in the book that thats the good thing about having a moving ministry as he could (TBC)
@AronRa Clear off when the trouble started! A few months later He received a letter stating that when he gave the vision in the church a women they had been praying for had received her life back as she had not long died. Ian Andrews was on tv to give his account of the events & as he started he could not string one word together without stammering! He exclaimed "Jesus Help Me"! & from then on he spoke fluently.This happened because Ian was about to claim some of Gods Glory.
@rangoon03 The trivial prayers your god chooses to answer are as mysterious as the really desperate pleas he chooses to ignore. Of course the real giveaway is that it requires faith to believe in any of it. Just having that criteria is already good enough reason to call the whole thing into question.
@AronRa I liken it to the time I gave my cousin a sanded down tylenol and told her that it was a super powerfull pain killer, Within an hour she was in lala land from a simple tylenol. When she asked what to tell her Dr that she needed I wrote it all out for her to take to him "acetominaphin Placebo" (I never said that she was bright) her mere aceptance of the fact that I told her that it was near horse tranquilizer strength was enough evidence for her to believe.
@AronRa Thanks for your answer. Yes it does require faith & yes that does call it into question. But that doesn't state that God doesn't exist. I am one of those people that hates it when i hear that a person says they believe in God because they were born into it.I was born a catholic & KNEW God didn't exist! Hated going to church, spat at the bible, profaned the name of Jesus. I came on hard times when i was older, age 22 & thought to myself. IF God exists He may help!! I prayed this (TBC)
@AronRa "Lord, if i am going to go to meetings to honour you,with people doing the same thing, but truly we would be just feigning a hope that you exist,.. then to be honest i'm not in the least bit interested!" I meant it. i continued." If you exist i need to know, because im not going to lie for a pretend God, i will NOT do that. I was a PATHETICLY shy man who wouldn't (couldn't) speak to anyone. The Spirit of God changed me. I wouldn't second guess Gods existence to speak to others about it.
@rangoon03 "I was a PATHETICLY shy man who wouldn't (couldn't) speak to anyone. The Spirit of God changed me."
An alternative viewpoint is that you had it all inside yourself all the time but lacked the belief in yourself and just needed something to push you. For some it may be "god" to do the trick, for others it may be as "simple" as support from near and dear to be able to step outside their comfort zone into the unknown.
Whatever the reason; good you was able to make a change.
@TheOkami1113 Yes. Your Aronra can account and define ALL dimensions that are mathematically calculated. SO..Aronra MUST deny that there can be more than THREE dimensions. Cause otherwise he is a FOOL. UNLESS this brilliant conglomerate can define in clarity ALL 12 mathematically proven dimensions and WHO/WHAT can possibly exist in each. Na they can't. They are simply marketing a thought that I JUST NOW DESTROYED.
@KaptinObvious So apparently, if you aren't a doctorate mathematician, you're a fool. Whatever you destroyed, it was a poorly crafted straw man. Whoever you are, I never implied you; therefore, you trolling me with verbose nonsense, with no particular order of operation, isn't hurting my feelings, or making me change my mind about anything.
@TheOkami1113 Um...yes you did..Denying is bullshit. You abhore the thought of GOD. If I am wrong please denote in length you favor of God. If not then in your previous post you offer NOTHING of value. I denote dimension....What you do you offer in retort?...Let me guess more of the same weak ass bullshit you offered in your last response?
@KaptinObvious Someone go their feelings hurt? That's all your god is: the ego. Otherwise, how exactly am I supposed to "abhor" something I don't even believe in? Was the last comment worth of purchase? It really wasn't meant to. It's not like my argument started off with a straw man and an insult--cough. Wasn't much of an argument, either. But, if dimensional cosmology is your argument, even YOU can't support it because it's completely out of OUR reality. You might as well argue DreamLand.
@TheOkami1113 Put your beer down or for GOD sake spell check.! Either way. I decline to debate your lame FLAT EARTH argument. All who has read this exchange can extrapolate the understanding that if YOUR science has yet to touch it it cannot be real. They rest of humanity realizes that there is much more to learn and we open our eyes to it. I would further offer upthat if you have not enjoyed my spicy chicken wings you must therefore deny their existense. Consistent with your mentality
@KaptinObvious Oh, wait. You're switch-and-baiting me. You say there's a god, and then you switch out and say that I'm supporting flat earth. (facepalm) What a dunce. If you think people are really as stupid as you to not notice something so visible as a "if I'm wrong, then so are you" smokescreen, you might want to re-evaluate how the real world works. Pay attention, the only one getting offended by what I'm saying is you. So when you get corrected, don't be a dick and try that stunt again.
You guys are clueless about Christianity. First, Joel Osteen and his church does not represent true Christianity at all but rather Satanism in disguise (according to John MacArthur, see his rebuking Osteen videos). You should have visited an authentic Christian church that teaches the true gospel, which is not at all about monetary prosperity. Second, the vast majority of the members are not creationists and most have probably not even thought about the issue of evolution vs. creation.
Holy crap, the "church" looks bigger than the Adelaide Entertainment Centre. And God said unto Moses "Mic check, 1, 2, mic check, can you hear me up in the back?"
Do they sell popcorn and hot dogs at half time? Can you buy beer and potato chips in the members bar? Do the fire sprinklers spray holy water? Can you buy tickets at the gate, or do you have to book ahead? Do they ever conduct afternoon matinees, or only morning and evening performances? Did anyone mistake Thunderfoot or AronRa for Jesus on the day? Do you have to walk through the gift shop in order to get to the exit? Is this church listed on the NY stock exchange?
I grew up in Houston. When this building was the Summit, I saw the circus there, rodeos, a stock car show, the Harlem Globetrotters, the Houston Rockets, the Houston Aeros, the University of Houston Cougars basketball, Rush, and Primus. I imagine that the property tax paid on that place amounted to quite a lot of tax revenue. Now...grrrr.
I live in Louisville, Kentucky, the state that not only has the Creation "Museum," but here in Louisville, we have Southeast Christian Church (or as I like to call it, 6 Flags over Jesus) which boasts an average weekly attendance of over 20 thousand (5th largest in US). I was a member from when they had just a measly 5-6 thousand a week until now, where they own 3 different campuses, and their main one holds 15thousand at a time. It's a $50million facility. Weekly offerings amount to over 100k.
@MetalSiicken Well, to be fair, Louisville is really a great city. I love it. Don't let the big stadium sized church fool you too much, most of Louisville is pretty progressive and fairly liberal. Lots of atheists here :]
You guys ought to have came and listened to an actual service instead of standing and judging something you don't understand. Joel does not take a salary from our church.
@john99magee Most of us used to sit down and listen to services. We are amazed at how gullible we used to be and are amazed and how silly we feel that we used to give to things like this. You should learn about the past of the people your criticizing, like Aron and Dillahunty, because they DO understand.
1:23 "My life never had a meaning and Im okay wih that"
No sir, life means more than those fairytales will ever allow, We weren't created just to worship for an eternity, and rather than wanting to see the end of this magnificent universe, we are destined to explore it.
This is now officially a place of true veneration because Matt Dillahunty, AronRa, and Thunderf00t stepped foot there. They are the unholy Trinity of Atheism :-D
@Metal1998 I have no doubt they use the church "to host" "christian rock" bands , all with proceeds "donated" to the church for the greater glory of God...and the Elders/Ministers/Owners pocketbooks because they know Christians post 35+ who have kids are trying to get this kids ensconced into this whole attempt to make Christianity "cool" by having rock bands like all those, evil athiest kids.
It's a good thing that Thunderf00t didn't bring his airplane. The people there would have thought it was an angel and that would have just encouraged them
Ummm... is it fair to say that the money could be better spent?
Could you imagine the surmon on the mount being related from the stage in that church? I think it's fair to say that 'the meek shall inherit the earth...' would ring a little hollow in such a setting lol
wow, that church is huge, how many people could they feed and provide shelter for, if they decided to make sure everyone met in another, and brought their own chairs
Financially-speaking, the Mormon church puts all Christian churches like Lakewood combined, to shame and the Catholic church puts them all to shame in terms of denominational-wealth.
aronra is right that thunderf00ts view is about Britain. In Manchester at least, religion does not compete with nights out with uni friends or workmates, going out drinking or spending time at friends houses is my generations church. religious or not, its just whatever your parents were, thats what you write on forms. although in my experience, astrology and new age stuff has more ground that religion in my age group (im 20 btw.) most people in my catholic school were atheist or didn't care.
@blesseddisciple What argument are you trying to make? So what if many leaders in the history of the United States were Christian? What actually matters is that they had the intention to separate religion and government, and we have been slowly reversing it for the past century...no wonder we're so in the shitter right now.
@predalienmack "been slowly reversing it for the past century" where to you get this idea? I dont think the founding fathers had the same idea of seperation as modern atheists seem to think, if they did, there would be no dating docs "in the year of our Lord", no swearing on bible, not mention of Jesus in inaugerations, and no daily prayer in congress etc etc. We are largely established on biblical faith and this foundation is what is being attacked and why we are going down the toilet.
@blesseddisciple "Under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance in 1954. "In God We Trust" was added to our money and as our motto in 1956. None of the things you have listed are legislated to be there, it is up to the choice of the individual to swear on the Bible, talk about Jesus, etc. It's funny if you think those things make the country any better as all I see is corruption in the wake of these so called "ideals." The founders were not typical "Christians," either.
@predalienmack If all you see is corruption, then you too suffer from what I call "atheistic blindness". Not recognizing the work of the Holy Spirit in countless lives... granted, there is a bad apple in every bunch and NO man is truly righteuos but Christ alone and only to Him should we look for an example of true Godliness. And if you read the wiki on "God we Trust" you will see it has been our National Motto since mid to late 1800's. Please elaberate on founders not being typical Christians
@blesseddisciple How do you "recognize" the "Holy Spirit?" With the "In God We Trust" bit, I was referring to the time the nation legislated that it would be required on all money pieces. It is a violation of the Constitution that officials won't recognize simply because it favors their religion. When I said the founders were not "typical Christians," I was referring to guys such as Thomas Jefferson, who created his own version of the Bible removing "supernatural aspects"- wiki
@Mogley52 dude just because we haven't figured out precisely how life resulted from possible non living particles doesn't mean we'll never figure it out. we don't know all the answers, but that doesn't mean you can replace the words "I don't know" with "God" and explain everything...
Big Bang cannot happen, you cannot get EVERYTHING from a pinhead amount of material. The only way that would happen if the pinhead of material was a non-believer, then you can convince them of EVERYTHING.
@allenmarcus60 You lack an understanding of the basic properties of matter and space, let alone what the Big Bang Theory states. Don't make claims like saying the "Big Bang cannot happen" without knowing matter can be concentrated into unimaginably small spaces. The Big Bang doesn't say "everything" came from "a pinhead amount of material," it says "everything" that we know of in the universe was at one point concentrated into a space possibly the size of a pinhead, though that is not certain.
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Eternal screams, Church of the damned, shrieks of the tormented and judged, slashed jugulars, entrails eviscerated and freshly-cut, whole men torn limb-from-limb, enormous netherworld monstrosities too horrifically described.
Unthinkable doom for we chosen few, bludgeoned until death does apart, whose untimely demise in honor for naught, vivisection of souls before His rotting throne, horned-shadows as evil as dark, slither before blood-masticated eyes, such is our despair, our unrelenting end.
HardlineAthiest 3 hours ago
That's a fucking church!?!... that looks like a fucking stadium!
That makes no sense!
I've been in a megachurch once, I slept over at my aunt and uncle's house, because I was hanging out with my cousin. My aunt to us to church the next day with her family, the church was fucking huge. I was like 8 at the time, so I never really thought about it and thought it was normal. But these things are ridiculous and should be torn down.
CyberSpectrumND 18 hours ago
@CyberSpectrumND
I read in a book called The Sinner's Guide to the Evangelical Right that this particular church, Lakewood, is the former stadium of the Houston Rockets.
Sapphira79 12 hours ago
O.o That megachurch is nothing more than a blatant example of wasted space. That building could have been used for such a better purpose than paying homage to your personal imaginary friend...
Blasthood 1 day ago
What a waste of land...
gamblorn 1 day ago
AronRa, you should get a camera stabilizer.
saintpine 1 day ago
That was fun.
TheArbitraryName 1 day ago
... Well on the plus side when the rapture hits we can use it for a theater. XD
PestoPosta 2 days ago
What a creepy place.
howboutthisname 4 days ago
My Christian stepdad use to tell my mom that God didn't bless us because she continued to hold a job (to pay for my medical bills because I had both epilepsy and asthema btw [I almost died several times]) instead of trusting God to provide. Now that's screwed up.
whwsjackfrost 4 days ago
@ about 7 minutes in...
"this video is awsome"
im smilling as they're entering the church, all these people together in one place... OMG this is so cool. It would have been unbelievably cool if potholer54 and nonstampcollector where there too but still, this is great.
bluexepnos 5 days ago
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"wor·ship/ˈwərSHip/ Noun: A ship equipped with weapons and designed to take part in warfare at sea."
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"whoreship" Whore - ship,
saintpine 1 day ago
I have a much greater respect for AronRa and Matt Dillahunty. Thunderf00t pisses me off even though we're both English.
TweekDash 1 week ago
"I wonder how much you have to donate to get into the box seats." The child that said that is wonderful.
pmasclark 1 week ago
i wonder if there's a homeless shelter and/or halfway house inside that place?
emailtheoldies 1 week ago
"my life never had meaning, and i'm okay with that..." that's awesome! i feel the same way! and there are so many fucking "blue laws" in houston it's not even funny.
emailtheoldies 1 week ago
It's a beautiful place, admittedly. Too bad its purpose sucks.
talskiety 2 weeks ago
Wow, I've never seen a church like that, that's insane! Great video.
GuacamoleKun 2 weeks ago
That church is such a waste of money,resources and time. Just think how much progress could be made if that amount of money was given to research cancer,instead of promoting ignorance and peddling bronze age superstition! I feel bad for you Aron...having to live in a place where unbelievable stupidity not only survives in the 21st century,but appears to be thriving :(
ReadABookAndLearn 2 weeks ago
@ReadABookAndLearn The funniest thing is that one of the things jesus criticised the MOST was the building of huge, expensive and extravagant temples.
Just look at the vatican as well as this...
They follow Jesus my ass..
Atheists for Jesus!
Porkusido 1 week ago
Wait a minute. What? When did "flat earth" even cross my mind? What are you even saying? Yeah, you're obviously trying to sell me something. Whatever equivocation tactic you're deploying to make it seem like you're any less of an idiot is way too apparent. And saying stupid things by saying I'm somehow involved in it doesn't make you any less of a loser. I don't know what science you think I support, but it electricity and gravity isn't real, God help you: you're beyond delusional.
TheOkami1113 2 weeks ago
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It is very important that we should all go to church as the church is the bride of Christ and the Lord is coming for His bride in the Rapture. Try to find a church which adheres to the Word of God which is the Bible. Jesus is the Way: there is NO other way to the Kingdom of God. 'No one comes to the Father except through Me.' John 14:6.
KingdomSeeker2012 2 weeks ago
Holy shit... that's not a church, it's a rock concert hall. It's as big as, if not, bigger than the places I went to watch a band play live.
Taizen001 2 weeks ago
(Cont) a technique known as radiometric dating, used to date such materials as rocks,usually based on a comparison between the observed abundance of a naturally occurring radioactive isotope & its decay products, using KNOWN decay rates!!! Well, suddenly we have gone from constantly being unable to KNOW the times & dates of when crimes have been committed or not which incidentally are dates such as?.. lets be kind,..1day & fucking that up to KNOWING the age of the Earth! What an incredible leap
rangoon03 2 weeks ago
@rangoon03 seems you never got the chance to meet with someone intelligent then. Nobody in their right mind KNOWS all those things 100%. There is always a margin of error and we tend to make it the smallest we can. nobody knows 100% but knowing to 99% something is still good to me and is a good start to inspect the remaining 1%.
ErgoProxy12345 2 weeks ago
@rangoon03 And for the O.J. thing, no tribunal declares a person innocent; it's not guilty. The judge couldn't declare the guy guilty with the evidence that were presented before him (or was bought maybe. that can happen too). A guy can be guilty but if the judge can't be convinced, it is all that matters.
ErgoProxy12345 2 weeks ago
Can i make a point i thought often when i was young & believed in neither God nor Evolution. I didn't believe in Evolution because to me it was more arrogant than a belief in a god! Let me explain. OJ Simpson,..was he guilty or not? We all KNOW he was ACTUALLY guilty. Now,... we have experts in each field of society. Law,. Science,.Politics etc etc etc. To believe,.. no we don't believe it we arrogantly KNOW that the Earth is 4.54 billion years. this has been deduced from (tbc)
rangoon03 2 weeks ago
That was way more entertaining then I had expected.
We need more of these :D
Marazish 2 weeks ago
Funny how a house that is supposed to be under the protection of a being that could create the entire universe in 6 days, still needs a crapload of security... guess they don't have that much faith afterall... just like bulletproof glass on the pope-mobile. Seems like the leaders of the religion put their faith always in security personel and safety glass over God.
enigmusII 2 weeks ago 2
Dear Camera Man Gary,
Thank you for filming this. However, I now have to wait a while before continuing because I am so nauseated by the twisty-turny stairs in the parking garage.
I think it must be proof that there is a god. He doesn't want me to watch anything remotely connected to reason.
JK! Love you guys!
grumpyotter 2 weeks ago
What a racket! We already have a non-profit that helps children live better lives. Seriously considering changing it up a bit and making it's mission to educate children on the benefits of living a life that isnt based on nonsense. We have to break the cycle of religion or we will never have a world that strives for greatness in the here and now. Children will be taught the benefits of logic and reason, instead of hate and isolationalism. Any ideas,comments,and advice will be appreciated.
ttgator2003 2 weeks ago
Is the cameraman really short or ducking when they get into the bookstore part?
jackskellingtonsora 3 weeks ago
"trust god with your money"... reminds me of a movie when the protagonist said
What Does God Need With a Starship?
quadjun 3 weeks ago
@quadjun That's admiral James T Protagonist.
nilbud 3 weeks ago
Awesome vid, thanks for upload and the cool 'behind the scenes' shit lol
ViperRob42 3 weeks ago
~Surely~ these mega church pastors must be truly selfish, after all according to Mathew 19:21-24and Mark 10:21-23 they have given up "treasure in heaven" so that they can remain rich here on earth as a "witness" to their sheeple. Of course the poor and homeless that he also mentioned will just have to find some other place to stay the night and seek shelter and food because these people are too busy using the space and money "worshiping GOD" to be bothered with them.
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago
@MrSirwolf2001 Perhaps the poor will just be satisfied with the scraps that fall from the rich tables of this church......Luke 16:19-31....er well, that doesn't end so well for the rich man/church.
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago
@MrSirwolf2001 mega church pastors must be truly SELFLESS...need to proofread better, also sarcasm font would help.
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago
re the "in church bookstore" Mathew 21:12 And Jesus entered the temple and CAST OUT all who were SELLING in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and seats of those who were selling doves (sacrafices). And He said to them, "It is written that MY HOUSE shall be called a house of prayer; but you are making it a ROBBER'S DEN." I wonder why Mega churches seem to forget or try to reinterperate this scripture, surely Jesus couldn't mean THEM?
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago 2
@MrSirwolf2001
Try Matthew 6.5 :)
rkyeun 3 weeks ago
@rkyeun Exactly! Much like Matt Dillahunty I grew up in the church and was actually studying for the mission field. It was the hypocrisy within the church and biblical contradictions (both with itself as well as provable science) and my search for answers that led me to become an atheist. I find it abhorant that preachers at churches like this live like kings and flaunt their distain for the words of Jesus even as they preach them, and yet the sheeple are blinded by their rationalisations.
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago
thanks for sharing this experience, i ve seen this video so many times never gets old.
sushanalone 3 weeks ago
boy, you better get to that big church early if you don't want to be late. And there's no AC in the shop!!! But my question is: do you have to buy tickets like for a baseball game???
zaxxxon 3 weeks ago
this video always makes me happy. we are lost in the parking lot!!! I'm an atheist, and I'm out...XD
MetalSiicken 3 weeks ago
my father pays no child support and only gives me money when I see him, which isn't often, yet he gives a portion of what he makes every year to a church...just now realized how screwed up that is..
MetalSiicken 3 weeks ago 34
@MetalSiicken that's messed up. My GF does the same thing(giving 15% to church) there's no way I can try to tell her not to. I guess it makes them happy.I don't give my kids $ anymore either but I hook them up with bud when they ask(theyre over 18)
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@MetalSiicken "my father pays no child support and only gives me money when I see him"
A friend of mine told me about a woman. She was thrown out of her home by her mother when she was 14 because she did not want to confess. Her life become a series of abuse by men. At 40 her mother asked her if she wanted to confess. Now with a 14y old son which was an atheist she raged at her mother at the question and asked her if she had to throw him out. She had forgiven but never forgotten.
jomen112 2 weeks ago
@MetalSiicken
Another friend of mine, female. Her mother was a groupie and went pregnant and she was born outside marriage. Due to my her mother religious background her mother got a lot of hell for this from her family, and her mother turned into a drunkard and blamed her daughter for what happen to her. She married, and her daughter was abused by her stepfather - the mother knew but did nothing. My friend then became abused by men almost all her life. This moral disgusts me...
jomen112 2 weeks ago
That church is impressive and sickening at the same time or should I say impressively sickening. Such waste of money and space.
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They need to convert that church into a science museum
INMATE2468 3 weeks ago
I always found it laughable how Bible churches can get away with selling crap when it was Jesus himself who drove the money changers out of the temple. I remember it not adding up when I was a fundie for 8 years of my life (eight years wasted). The church I used to attend built a coffee shop and had a book section attached to it. All that money spent which would have been better spent (and more Christ like) feeding and helping those in need.
Antiks72 4 weeks ago
Lol I didn't recognize the hotel until the footage @ 0:44. I stayed in that hotel in 2009 for wrestlemania 25. I took a video exactly like the footage in 0:44. I didn't realize I was afraid of heights until I looked down at the center of the hotel from the top story like its shown in 0:46.
ChairOKey 1 month ago
wow this was much worse then any horror movie I've ever seen. Lets get Aron and thunderfoot to preach to them during a full house, now that would be something to behold!
Kyee71 1 month ago
@Kyee71 They would get driven out.
Antiks72 4 weeks ago
Those of us who know that we are not just meat that expires as ARONRA professes. We believe that there is a God and he is dimensional and that we are a test. However sad is that ARONRA followers ( And I don't hate you I lament that you are the real flat Earth society of the 21'st century) cannot quantify extra dimensional. Make no mistake we all have the chance to prove ourselves to someone WAY beyond our perceptive selves. That is where AronRA fails. And you who follow
KaptinObvious 1 month ago
@KaptinObvious Do you have any evidence for this God? Provide it and then we will change our minds.
iomithelegend 3 weeks ago
So much wasted money...
skaruts 1 month ago
How can tfoot walk through a church without children thinking he's Jesus?
tchapps1 1 month ago
Fascinating video. Thanks!
redforrori 1 month ago
megachurch= target for meteor,that would be an act of god Id be thankful to see,that is rigodamndiculous how big that place is,,,
fraterlucifer888 1 month ago
Why the fuck is there a 30 mph gust inside of a church?
ManicTheManic 1 month ago
ooooooooooh shhhhhhiiii.......WE ARE DOOMED!!! Did you see the size of that place?!?
MrAJMR08 1 month ago
@MrAJMR08 you are right!!! we are DOOMED!!!! did you see the size of those christians?!!! the meek shall inherit the earth,,,and then eat it
fraterlucifer888 1 month ago
This is the supernova church, and they will all burn out.
goosed1 1 month ago
I wonder what that old Galilean carpenter would have thought of all this wealth.I think I can guess.
Q3ToPBuZz 1 month ago 2
Only been to the US once.
Spent my vacation in that hotel
/flex.
Picasso43967 1 month ago
Not a single visible religious symbol in that church.
How strange.
baldieman64 1 month ago
@baldieman64
What do you call that big flag at the back of the arena?
jazzx251 1 month ago
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@jazzx251 "What do you call that big flag at the back of the arena?"
You mean the stars and stripes ?
I don't see any other flag.
baldieman64 1 month ago
Imagine a Nazarean Jew with a Yiddish accent in that store showing them around....
"Moichendizin, Moichensizin...where the REAL money from the Church is made..."
"Jesus the Tshirt, Jesus the coloring book, Jesus the lunchbox, Jesus the breakfast cereal, Jesus the Flamethrower (...the kid's love this one),last but not least...Jesus the Doll (me!) *pulls cord* "The Power of Christ compels you" *kiss* "...adorable".
OkamsRazer 1 month ago 2
Its just too bad the "small local" chapel has gone the way of the dodo. In fact I think it would serve the goal of the elimination of fundamental hordes as shown here. The lure of the mob here has a strong psychological impact on those who participate no doubt.
Surely, this effect would still occur if a small group of 30-50 people gathered in a small church but the sheer enormity of the impact on an already "weakened" mind on seeing over 10,000 in a religous fervor must be enormous.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
At least "normal" churches usually have an aesthetic value... This mega-church is monstrous.
Wotanraven 1 month ago
All the money gone into that.... makes me sick. Think of all the good they could have done with it.
Utmoon 1 month ago
I am in the wrong business... I need to start a religion.
californiarednek 1 month ago
@californiarednek You're not joking! This is big big business! No taxes!! It will take a lot of stopping. I live in UK - thank f**k!
1212JackJohnson 1 month ago
@1212JackJohnson Well isn't the royal family both head of the church and head of the state?
californiarednek 1 month ago
@californiarednek Yes they are, but our church isnt a business, doesnt cost us anything and doesnt get involved in politics (either local or national) In fact we mostly ignore it except for marriages and funerals! What was your point exactly?
1212JackJohnson 1 month ago
@1212JackJohnson If it is so insignificant, why have it?
californiarednek 1 month ago
@californiarednek He answered you: for marriages and funerals. Many people in Western Europe keep with this tradition, while never going to church on a regular Sunday, and basically not giving much of a crap about religion. During a Sunday mass, most churches are practically empty, most of the attendees are elderly people, and there's a huge problem with what to do with our numerous abandoned churches. They're usually converted into utility buildings for the towns.
Wotanraven 1 month ago
@Wotanraven I would like to point out that just for the record I am not trying to flame him, but I do take a certain pride in the separation of church and state. I know the religious fervor seen in this video is sadly more common in america than it should be, but I think you can give rational Americans a little credit.
californiarednek 1 month ago
@californiarednek rational what? i haven't seen many rational americans in my neck of the woods.
bokprop420 1 month ago
@californiarednek I would'nt - I'm a republican - like you1 Trouble is we dont get to vote on it! hand!
1212JackJohnson 1 month ago
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would love to see you guys go to a mosque and mutter to yourselves about how stupid the people are there. there are people at church who are more than willing to talk to you and answer any questions you may have, but of course you didn't come there to talk to anybody did you? just to spew hatred and criticize. and of course the funding for such a large church *has* to come from some sinister source -because christian organisations dont know how to save money for themselves right? of course, duh!
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 So the idea that these atheists wouldn't blast their mouths off in a mosque, a place of such radical devotion that opposing views are dangerous, means that a stadium sized church isn't that big a deal? There isn't one extreme, there's varied levels in the ridiculous extents personal belief can go. I also don't see how going to this 'church', keeping and talking amongst yourselves and not bothering anyone is a bad thing. You'd be complaining if the opposite happened.
NativeAlternative 1 month ago
@NativeAlternative I made no such connection between the size of the church and a mosque, they were two different points I was trying to get at. First, I was saying they are cowards for not going somewhere where their lives would be threatened. Second, I was objecting to their reasoning behind the church's funding. Also, "not bothering anyone"? Please! They were cursing everyone under their breath, it would have been less cowardly if they had discussed their concern man-to-man with people there.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 You didn't make the conncection, but that's the point of this video isn't it? "I was saying they are cowards for not going somewhere where their lives would be threatened" W-wow? Really?! See I would call not putting oneself in danger a smart thing to do, especially when it would serve no goal. "They were cursing everyone" point out to me where in the video they did this. Yes, they expressed dismay that so many people unquestionably buy what the preacher has to say. So?
NativeAlternative 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 Aside from the fact they'd probably just be asked to leave, why go up to people who didn't come to church to be debated or questioned? Even if it was polite questioning about the funding or how often they go, it just seems more civil to leave people to their own devices. As for the funding, where is this talk of a 'sinister source'? Matt seemed fairly reasonable at 19:10 when he said however much funding they get it takes roughly $250K to run it daily. Where's the malice?
NativeAlternative 1 month ago
@NativeAlternative How do you think its acceptable that they walk in somewhere just to state how much disdain they have for all the people there without actually confronting anyone for it? You obviously don't know the people of the church. The bible says to be prepared when people confront you about your faith. 2nd- If its OK to do this at a church, surely they'd have the integrity to do it at a mosque as well? But as you correctly point out, it's because they don't want to fear for their lives.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 I'll tell you right now go to texas start going up to people and tell them there is no god..your life will be in danger.I don't know too many good christain folk that don't own or even carry a gun.Not defending islam but I bet the rate of gun ownership is much higher among christians.I think they know you don't go to a church in texas or most places for that matter and start talking about being a atheist..you do ,your in danger.funny I doubt the opposite would be true
alltiedup217 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 I think the point the video was making is you have this HUGE church devoted to what seems to be solely the raising of money to support the church itself. Did you not notice how much they said this church requires just to open every week? They have a huge bookstore devoted to the "spiritual growth" of their flock, I'm sure they make a healthy profit, its more or less a captive audience. Once you sucker them into a religious fervor..."Of course I need Jesus coffee mugs".
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 I never 'spew hatred'. I don't hate. We did talk to people there, but no one would talk to us with the camera on. The people we talked to had no idea that we were atheists. They only knew that our camera man was English, and they told him (without apology) how sad it was that Europeans had "wrong ideas about God".
AronRa 1 month ago 60
@AronRa "Wrong ideas about God". Oh the irony.
Webofscience 1 month ago
@AronRa So do you have plans of going to a mosque next?
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@AronRa Hi AronRa, i am a Christian who hasn't been gifted with the very depth of intellect as Yourself, Thunderf00t, Matt Dillahunty etc. I will go on record & say i like you all & that in spite of our differences in Theology/Philosophy. My thoughts in regard to those differences are 1) Previous to becoming a Christian i was forced into Catholicism from birth through my parents. I was know to spit on the bible,.swear at Jesus etc. But one unexpected day i met Ian Andrews, a man who knows Jesus!
rangoon03 3 weeks ago
@AronRa Continued,...Ian Andrews was a man who had a terrible speech impediment that made him stammer terribly. On one occasion literally when he had first started his journey with God (the Living God), God asked him to pray for a women. He had no idea what to do,so made every attempt to guess. What he didnt know was that the woman he prayed for had a few wks to live! She visited the docs who were surprised to see the tumour had disappeared! Another occasion he prayed (TBC)
rangoon03 3 weeks ago
@rangoon03 "What he didnt know was that the woman he prayed for had a few wks to live! She visited the docs who were surprised to see the tumour had disappeared!"
We know that the immune system kills tumor cells all the time, we also know the strength of the immune system is affected by or mode. In either case, god or not, it can be explained by natural causes. If you want to believe god did it, fine, but there is no need to involve a miracle as the only explanation to such things.
jomen112 2 weeks ago
@AronRa in a protestant High Church & against normal procedure he had a vision that he asked if he could give what he believed he received from God. They thought this was very unpredictable & didn't want to let him but they relented. Ian said he had seen something to do with a pine sheet & as he was giving the vision A few women (nuns) began to chatter excitedly saying "that's sister ,.... Ian says in the book that thats the good thing about having a moving ministry as he could (TBC)
rangoon03 3 weeks ago
@AronRa Clear off when the trouble started! A few months later He received a letter stating that when he gave the vision in the church a women they had been praying for had received her life back as she had not long died. Ian Andrews was on tv to give his account of the events & as he started he could not string one word together without stammering! He exclaimed "Jesus Help Me"! & from then on he spoke fluently.This happened because Ian was about to claim some of Gods Glory.
rangoon03 3 weeks ago
@rangoon03 The trivial prayers your god chooses to answer are as mysterious as the really desperate pleas he chooses to ignore. Of course the real giveaway is that it requires faith to believe in any of it. Just having that criteria is already good enough reason to call the whole thing into question.
AronRa 3 weeks ago 52
@AronRa I liken it to the time I gave my cousin a sanded down tylenol and told her that it was a super powerfull pain killer, Within an hour she was in lala land from a simple tylenol. When she asked what to tell her Dr that she needed I wrote it all out for her to take to him "acetominaphin Placebo" (I never said that she was bright) her mere aceptance of the fact that I told her that it was near horse tranquilizer strength was enough evidence for her to believe.
MrSirwolf2001 3 weeks ago
@AronRa Thanks for your answer. Yes it does require faith & yes that does call it into question. But that doesn't state that God doesn't exist. I am one of those people that hates it when i hear that a person says they believe in God because they were born into it.I was born a catholic & KNEW God didn't exist! Hated going to church, spat at the bible, profaned the name of Jesus. I came on hard times when i was older, age 22 & thought to myself. IF God exists He may help!! I prayed this (TBC)
rangoon03 2 weeks ago
@AronRa "Lord, if i am going to go to meetings to honour you,with people doing the same thing, but truly we would be just feigning a hope that you exist,.. then to be honest i'm not in the least bit interested!" I meant it. i continued." If you exist i need to know, because im not going to lie for a pretend God, i will NOT do that. I was a PATHETICLY shy man who wouldn't (couldn't) speak to anyone. The Spirit of God changed me. I wouldn't second guess Gods existence to speak to others about it.
rangoon03 2 weeks ago
@rangoon03 "I was a PATHETICLY shy man who wouldn't (couldn't) speak to anyone. The Spirit of God changed me."
An alternative viewpoint is that you had it all inside yourself all the time but lacked the belief in yourself and just needed something to push you. For some it may be "god" to do the trick, for others it may be as "simple" as support from near and dear to be able to step outside their comfort zone into the unknown.
Whatever the reason; good you was able to make a change.
jomen112 2 weeks ago
@AronRa Mind if I make this a copy-paste? I get really tired of the vacuous "prayers-for-God" routine these people think actually is worth purchase.
TheOkami1113 2 weeks ago
@TheOkami1113 Yes. Your Aronra can account and define ALL dimensions that are mathematically calculated. SO..Aronra MUST deny that there can be more than THREE dimensions. Cause otherwise he is a FOOL. UNLESS this brilliant conglomerate can define in clarity ALL 12 mathematically proven dimensions and WHO/WHAT can possibly exist in each. Na they can't. They are simply marketing a thought that I JUST NOW DESTROYED.
KaptinObvious 2 weeks ago
@KaptinObvious So apparently, if you aren't a doctorate mathematician, you're a fool. Whatever you destroyed, it was a poorly crafted straw man. Whoever you are, I never implied you; therefore, you trolling me with verbose nonsense, with no particular order of operation, isn't hurting my feelings, or making me change my mind about anything.
TheOkami1113 2 weeks ago
@TheOkami1113 Um...yes you did..Denying is bullshit. You abhore the thought of GOD. If I am wrong please denote in length you favor of God. If not then in your previous post you offer NOTHING of value. I denote dimension....What you do you offer in retort?...Let me guess more of the same weak ass bullshit you offered in your last response?
KaptinObvious 2 weeks ago
@KaptinObvious Someone go their feelings hurt? That's all your god is: the ego. Otherwise, how exactly am I supposed to "abhor" something I don't even believe in? Was the last comment worth of purchase? It really wasn't meant to. It's not like my argument started off with a straw man and an insult--cough. Wasn't much of an argument, either. But, if dimensional cosmology is your argument, even YOU can't support it because it's completely out of OUR reality. You might as well argue DreamLand.
TheOkami1113 2 weeks ago
@TheOkami1113 Put your beer down or for GOD sake spell check.! Either way. I decline to debate your lame FLAT EARTH argument. All who has read this exchange can extrapolate the understanding that if YOUR science has yet to touch it it cannot be real. They rest of humanity realizes that there is much more to learn and we open our eyes to it. I would further offer upthat if you have not enjoyed my spicy chicken wings you must therefore deny their existense. Consistent with your mentality
KaptinObvious 2 weeks ago
@KaptinObvious Oh, wait. You're switch-and-baiting me. You say there's a god, and then you switch out and say that I'm supporting flat earth. (facepalm) What a dunce. If you think people are really as stupid as you to not notice something so visible as a "if I'm wrong, then so are you" smokescreen, you might want to re-evaluate how the real world works. Pay attention, the only one getting offended by what I'm saying is you. So when you get corrected, don't be a dick and try that stunt again.
TheOkami1113 2 weeks ago
Intelligent d e s i g
scarletharlot69 1 month ago
16,000 idiots under one roof...ain't TX great...
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 1 month ago
someone should buy this curch and turn it in to a death metal concert hall
rafko250 2 months ago
creationist butt
lovingboarding 2 months ago
You should have gone to Princes Burgers. Its right across the freeway. They have pretty good burgers.
michaelcortez101 2 months ago
You guys are clueless about Christianity. First, Joel Osteen and his church does not represent true Christianity at all but rather Satanism in disguise (according to John MacArthur, see his rebuking Osteen videos). You should have visited an authentic Christian church that teaches the true gospel, which is not at all about monetary prosperity. Second, the vast majority of the members are not creationists and most have probably not even thought about the issue of evolution vs. creation.
BachScholar 2 months ago
I wonder if that building was built to be a church or is it a converted stadium...
Dougster 2 months ago
Megachurches: Because stadium seating and a light show is more important than feeding the hungry...
AgApE010 2 months ago
Houses Of The Holy /lol
rdickinsondickinson 2 months ago
19:25 "How much does it cost to run this place on a sunday?"
In dollars of common sense?
bsemmelbeck 2 months ago
If you guys ever go to the Hyatt regency in Boston let me know by the way great lobsters :)
philosophicalreason 2 months ago
Wow. THAT is CHURCH? I could so picture the Red Hot Chili Peppers performing in there.
TheYipedo 2 months ago
Looks like they're aboard a Borg ship...
dzntms144 2 months ago
Holy crap, the "church" looks bigger than the Adelaide Entertainment Centre. And God said unto Moses "Mic check, 1, 2, mic check, can you hear me up in the back?"
davidsfriend01 2 months ago 13
Churches that look like Arenas for concerts. Only in America.
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wow,what a waste of a beautiful arena.
Q3ToPBuZz 2 months ago
just think of all the good in the world that could be done if places like that hadnt been built, and the money spent on solving world hunger.
moggy041279 2 months ago
I have a few questions.
Do they sell popcorn and hot dogs at half time? Can you buy beer and potato chips in the members bar? Do the fire sprinklers spray holy water? Can you buy tickets at the gate, or do you have to book ahead? Do they ever conduct afternoon matinees, or only morning and evening performances? Did anyone mistake Thunderfoot or AronRa for Jesus on the day? Do you have to walk through the gift shop in order to get to the exit? Is this church listed on the NY stock exchange?
dingodavid 2 months ago 20
@dingodavid
One thing's for sure, there's no bar. The only ale you'll get in there is Adam's ale. (water)
jazzx251 1 month ago
I grew up in Houston. When this building was the Summit, I saw the circus there, rodeos, a stock car show, the Harlem Globetrotters, the Houston Rockets, the Houston Aeros, the University of Houston Cougars basketball, Rush, and Primus. I imagine that the property tax paid on that place amounted to quite a lot of tax revenue. Now...grrrr.
aajoeyjo 2 months ago
dude, I want 80 million! so do kids in africa... hell they just want a bag of rice....
MetalSiicken 2 months ago
I live in Louisville, Kentucky, the state that not only has the Creation "Museum," but here in Louisville, we have Southeast Christian Church (or as I like to call it, 6 Flags over Jesus) which boasts an average weekly attendance of over 20 thousand (5th largest in US). I was a member from when they had just a measly 5-6 thousand a week until now, where they own 3 different campuses, and their main one holds 15thousand at a time. It's a $50million facility. Weekly offerings amount to over 100k.
frightenedsoul 2 months ago
@frightenedsoul utohhhh I am moving to either louisville or the lexington area in 6 months or so......
MetalSiicken 2 months ago
@MetalSiicken Well, to be fair, Louisville is really a great city. I love it. Don't let the big stadium sized church fool you too much, most of Louisville is pretty progressive and fairly liberal. Lots of atheists here :]
frightenedsoul 2 months ago
@frightenedsoul oh good lol, I was starting to regret my decision.
MetalSiicken 2 months ago
@MetalSiicken Just make sure you go to Bardstown Road when you get here! :]
frightenedsoul 2 months ago
You guys ought to have came and listened to an actual service instead of standing and judging something you don't understand. Joel does not take a salary from our church.
john99magee 2 months ago
@john99magee Most of us used to sit down and listen to services. We are amazed at how gullible we used to be and are amazed and how silly we feel that we used to give to things like this. You should learn about the past of the people your criticizing, like Aron and Dillahunty, because they DO understand.
wantausernameplz 2 months ago
1:23 "My life never had a meaning and Im okay wih that"
No sir, life means more than those fairytales will ever allow, We weren't created just to worship for an eternity, and rather than wanting to see the end of this magnificent universe, we are destined to explore it.
bigredphenom 2 months ago
And yes... Matt does look like he's an X-wing fighter Pilot.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 2 months ago
This is now officially a place of true veneration because Matt Dillahunty, AronRa, and Thunderf00t stepped foot there. They are the unholy Trinity of Atheism :-D
xm377Moyocoyatzin 2 months ago
Aronra and thunderf00t look like their going to play Heavy Metal music there
Metal1998 2 months ago 40
@Metal1998 I have no doubt they use the church "to host" "christian rock" bands , all with proceeds "donated" to the church for the greater glory of God...and the Elders/Ministers/Owners pocketbooks because they know Christians post 35+ who have kids are trying to get this kids ensconced into this whole attempt to make Christianity "cool" by having rock bands like all those, evil athiest kids.
OkamsRazer 1 month ago
It's a good thing that Thunderf00t didn't bring his airplane. The people there would have thought it was an angel and that would have just encouraged them
panterguy 2 months ago
Ummm... is it fair to say that the money could be better spent?
Could you imagine the surmon on the mount being related from the stage in that church? I think it's fair to say that 'the meek shall inherit the earth...' would ring a little hollow in such a setting lol
go1godfurther 2 months ago
wow, that church is huge, how many people could they feed and provide shelter for, if they decided to make sure everyone met in another, and brought their own chairs
opinionatediam 2 months ago
The guy from the Atheist Experience looks like he's wearing an X-wing Pilot's uniform.
quinndiesel1977 2 months ago
@quinndiesel1977 Cover me Porkins! I'm right with you Red 3!
quinndiesel1977 2 months ago 2
Do you have to buy tickets to go to that church?
CDPuffer 2 months ago
That church is like a shit cinema isnt it.
LogicalStatements1 2 months ago
Financially-speaking, the Mormon church puts all Christian churches like Lakewood combined, to shame and the Catholic church puts them all to shame in terms of denominational-wealth.
Mormonites 2 months ago
@Mormonites Yeah I have seen the Mormon church in San Diego, it looked like something came out of Disney
dirtleg27 2 months ago
aronra is right that thunderf00ts view is about Britain. In Manchester at least, religion does not compete with nights out with uni friends or workmates, going out drinking or spending time at friends houses is my generations church. religious or not, its just whatever your parents were, thats what you write on forms. although in my experience, astrology and new age stuff has more ground that religion in my age group (im 20 btw.) most people in my catholic school were atheist or didn't care.
callumnik117 2 months ago
@blesseddisciple What argument are you trying to make? So what if many leaders in the history of the United States were Christian? What actually matters is that they had the intention to separate religion and government, and we have been slowly reversing it for the past century...no wonder we're so in the shitter right now.
predalienmack 2 months ago
@predalienmack "been slowly reversing it for the past century" where to you get this idea? I dont think the founding fathers had the same idea of seperation as modern atheists seem to think, if they did, there would be no dating docs "in the year of our Lord", no swearing on bible, not mention of Jesus in inaugerations, and no daily prayer in congress etc etc. We are largely established on biblical faith and this foundation is what is being attacked and why we are going down the toilet.
Peace
blesseddisciple 2 months ago
@blesseddisciple "Under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance in 1954. "In God We Trust" was added to our money and as our motto in 1956. None of the things you have listed are legislated to be there, it is up to the choice of the individual to swear on the Bible, talk about Jesus, etc. It's funny if you think those things make the country any better as all I see is corruption in the wake of these so called "ideals." The founders were not typical "Christians," either.
predalienmack 2 months ago
@predalienmack If all you see is corruption, then you too suffer from what I call "atheistic blindness". Not recognizing the work of the Holy Spirit in countless lives... granted, there is a bad apple in every bunch and NO man is truly righteuos but Christ alone and only to Him should we look for an example of true Godliness. And if you read the wiki on "God we Trust" you will see it has been our National Motto since mid to late 1800's. Please elaberate on founders not being typical Christians
blesseddisciple 2 months ago
@blesseddisciple How do you "recognize" the "Holy Spirit?" With the "In God We Trust" bit, I was referring to the time the nation legislated that it would be required on all money pieces. It is a violation of the Constitution that officials won't recognize simply because it favors their religion. When I said the founders were not "typical Christians," I was referring to guys such as Thomas Jefferson, who created his own version of the Bible removing "supernatural aspects"- wiki
predalienmack 2 months ago
@Mogley52 dude just because we haven't figured out precisely how life resulted from possible non living particles doesn't mean we'll never figure it out. we don't know all the answers, but that doesn't mean you can replace the words "I don't know" with "God" and explain everything...
predalienmack 2 months ago
Hehe kinda ridiculous
lolippi 2 months ago
@aledg Down with Christian American greed, I am with you on that
dirtleg27 2 months ago
I like the parking lot scene, reminded me of This Is Spinal Tap when they were lost backstage.
dirtleg27 2 months ago
Big Bang cannot happen, you cannot get EVERYTHING from a pinhead amount of material. The only way that would happen if the pinhead of material was a non-believer, then you can convince them of EVERYTHING.
allenmarcus60 2 months ago
@allenmarcus60 You lack an understanding of the basic properties of matter and space, let alone what the Big Bang Theory states. Don't make claims like saying the "Big Bang cannot happen" without knowing matter can be concentrated into unimaginably small spaces. The Big Bang doesn't say "everything" came from "a pinhead amount of material," it says "everything" that we know of in the universe was at one point concentrated into a space possibly the size of a pinhead, though that is not certain.
predalienmack 2 months ago