The Biblical Doctrine of Hell #4: Hell is a Place That Never Ends for the Damned

[Shadowlooker12]

People can stop the hostile engagements that separate many of us unbelievers and believers, so that when the time does come, more people can be saved. Because I don't see how people can beleive we all will be saved when the bible does not say so. I wish all people could be saved, but the bible says many will not be. We should all want what God wants, and look at me, I'm not Christian yet, why do I care so much for the well being of others in life or death. This needs to stop, but it won't.

[Shadowlooker12]

It's no longer about, is what this says is correct, it's I,ME,MYSELF, AM I correct, my ideals. The whole point of looking at the bible and seeking God is for TRUTH. If that requires full study of the bible in it's original language, hours of looking, soul searching, asking God for guidance so that you won't come to a wrong conclusion, SO BE IT. I know this aspect will only get worst as we more towards an end, a date we do not know, but, I wish people see the truth of this matter and I hope that

[Shadowlooker12]

This is madness, from Christian to Christian, believer to believer, we are arguing, fighting, cursing, yelling, belittling each other, for lack of understanding that was forced upon us. People cannot just look at the bible, and accept it anymore as God inspired and correct. A fellow believer and Christian should be open to reproof like the bible says by another Christian, but many are not. We're just fighting each other 24/7 I've noticed, believer or not. Everyone wants to be correct.

[Shadowlooker12]

Researching government, fraud, faulty science, factual science, history, you name it, not just over 100 hours of videos, I literally watched over 70,000 vids, downloaded much audio and documents. After such a long time it seems, you have to come to a realization that there is an agenda against God, in specific, Christianity. Unbelievers, mainly humanist who embrace man and make him out to be God instead confuse us so well, we have to debate even the bible itself as believers of God.

[Shadowlooker12]

It's sort of the same reason why Atheist don't want to believe in God, today, rationalism fueled by science, so called logic, relativism and humanistic principles is so ramped that it blocks a lot of people from really making decisions on their own. It's automatically assumed "if this does not make sense to you, it's wrong, ignore it" by most, and this is terribly sad. This is done by government and those behind it.Now I'm no crazed man or paranoid individual, I've been on youtube for years now.

[Shadowlooker12]

I think alot of people have a problem with, modern day theology and socially acceptance. What I mean by that is, because today, lots of things are not politically correct and or it seems so out of lace by today's standards that, no one wants to beleive in a thing called Hell or that God will punish for disobedience. It seems it has less to do with actual facts and refutation which can stand opposed to the idea of Hell as a valid and opposing view, it's more because they don't want to beleive it.

[KingdomUploader]

You're making a case for the eternal torment in hell for the wicked which i do not believe.you say that Jesus died to save us from"that place" the bible says He came to save us from our sin and sin is what i believe will be burned.there is no way Jesus' agony on the cross,no matter how "infinite",could ever possibly be more terrible than you or i spending eternity in the lake of fire;it's just not comprehensible.Jesus is now on the Right hand of God the Father enjoying pleasures forevermore.

[CAnswersTV]

@KingdomUploader Not only do you deny the historic Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament scriptures concerning an eternal, burning hell (see their Talmud, Midrash, Rosh Hashana, Targums, the Septuagint, etc) but you also deny the Jewish understanding of hell by Jesus & the New Testament writers. Click the "show more" for the description text of this video. There you will see plenty of New Testament verses proving the case for an eternal lake of fire where the damned will be for eternity.

[CAnswersTV]

@KingdomUploader Orthodox Jews do believe Jesus is burning in hell right now (burning in boiling semen according to the Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Git. 56a - see our CAnswersTV channel page for more). Fortunately, the unbelieving Jews are wrong because they simply don't believe the New Testament which is a true record. The NT says Jesus paid our sin debt with his own blood (we our website BIBLEQUERY ORG for more - particularly check Hebrews). Jesus is Eternal God in the flesh. Jn 1:1, Col 2:9

[LuxAuterna]

He misquoted Matthew 10:28. He said, "to not fear what they can do to our bodies but to fear him who has the authority and power to cast into hell." THAT IS UTTERLY FALSE AND EGREGIOUS. Conveniently this plays into what he is propagating so I don't think it was an error of ignorance of the verse. "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Not the word DESTROY!!!! He left it out conveniently.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuxAuterna You must have studied with the Jehovah's Witnesses or possibly the 7th-Day Adventists to come up with all this nonsense. They argue like you do on this verse (along with other cults). "DESTROY" does NOT mean ANNIHILATE, but the Greek word here "apollumi" tied with the parallel passage in Luke 12:4-5 which uses the word "ballw" (cast) shows "apollumi" to be a synonym, get it? Thus the wicked are "cast" or "destroyed" into eternal misery making ANNIHILATION here impossible, get it?

[LuxAuterna]

@CAnswersTV The Peshitta text (NT) agrees on every level with the Greek. Perish and destroy simply mean just that. In no other sense does it mean anything else. You are re-defining the Greek words to fit your want which is torture. Do you intend to re-define the Aramaic (NT) text words as well? John 3:16 Peshitta text "perish" litterally means, "be destroyed." Torture is not a necessity for punishment of sin. Examples are in the OT and none of them involve deliberate torture.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuxAuterna Not only do you excel in IGNORANCE you also excel in IRRATIONALITY. Instead of dealing with the Greek in Matt 10:28 in connection with Luke 12:4-5 you jump to the questionable "Peshitta" text (see what the Greek scholars say) & argue nonsense that has nothing to do with the context presented. Not only do you borrow from Eastern cultic sources to avoid mainline Biblical texts (Textus Receptus & Codex Vaticanus) but you commit the TORTUROUS logical fallacy of BEGGING THE QUESTION.

[LuxAuterna]

@CAnswersTV Of course Greek scholars disapprove of the Peshitta text. That would render their life's work essentially useless as the Greek is far inferior in translating from Hebrew or possible original writings of Aramaic. Show me examples of God ordering his servants/people to torture sinners. Is it permissible to commit such acts or is the punishment of sin death? Why would it change in any way? I don't avoid the texts. You are the one re-defining words and imposing your ideas on them.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuxAuterna At least you ADMIT that GREEK SCHOLARS DISAPPROVE of your "peshitta text" & that's your answer to try to escape the Greek text in Matthew 10:28 & Luke 12:4-5 which in the end is NO ANSWER at all. Your bogus claims of "Greek is far inferior in translating from Hebrew" (ever heard of the SEPTUAGINT?) is another logical fallacy known as FALLACY OF OPPOSITION. God kills & tortures people Himself: Noah's Flood, Jeremiah 19:3, 9 (cannibalism), 15; Joshua 6:21, Isaiah 13:16ff (rape), etc.

[LuxAuterna]

@CAnswersTV My point is that you re-define words to mean something they aren't (death, destruction, perish etc.). You might be able to fool people in re-defining Greek words but doubly re-defining Aramaic texts as well reeks of desperation to prove a doctrine. Matthew 10:28 says hells is destruction of soul and body. Luke 12:5 says he has the ability to can cast into hell. That doesn't mean the assumption is that Luke and Matthew disagreed. Quoting one without reference to the other is wrong.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuxAuterna Just like your AVOIDANCE (& IGNORANCE) of what the Jewish religious literature teaches (that there is an ETERNAL, BURNING HELL), you also conveniently IGNORE what I quoted you in the previous reply, namely that God does KILL & TORTURE (Jeremiah 19:3,9,15; Isaiah 13:16 ff, & many other passages could be cited). God TORTURES people NOW & He will do it in the FUTURE eternity (Revelation 14:9-11), get it? Your argument of "redefining" is BOGUS since the LINGUISTIC literature refutes you.

[Dwrancho144]

IF you really believed that hell was real then you would be out preaching 24/7 with no sleep !!!

if you really look at every sinner as someone who is headed to hell then you would have an adrenaline rush to find out the quickest way to save them

the only problem is NO christian truly believes in hell because they life testifies that they

If there is a bomb in the house then tell people there is and stop trying save your own life

do look and speak to unsaved family like this?

[SwordofManticorE]

"Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for ALL mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for ALL mankind for life's justifying For even as, through the disobedience of the one man [Adam], the many [with the ecception of Christ] were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One [Christ], the many [mankind] shall be constituted just" (Rom. 5:18-19).

Brackets and capital words are mine.

[CAnswersTV]

@SwordofManticorE You & Thomas Jefferson have the same approach to the Bible. If you like a Bible verse you will believe it ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU ALREADY WANT TO BELIEVE (similar to Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, etc.) but if you don't like it you throw it out. Jefferson cut out every Bible verse he did not believe & thus his Bible was full of holes (it's on display at Monticello) & you do the same. Here in Rom 5 you ASSUME YOUR INTERPRETATION while IGNORING verses that deny your INTERPRETATION.

[VanKlaunch]

According to Christianity, God created all people and most are predestined to burn in agonizing flames for all eternity. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, He already knows all who are going to hell. God, therefore, created many, many conscious, sentient beings JUST so He can TORTURE them forever. How can anyone say that this God, this setter of universal rules, according to the doctrine, BENIGN? This God is a tortuous fabrication, existent only within the networks of fear and ignorance.

[CAnswersTV]

VanKlaunch as I mentioned on one of our other Hell videos, I have been surprised how many atheists seem to be flocking to our Hell videos. Is Hell a subject that attracts atheists like a bright light at night attracts loathsome insects? More atheists are coming to these Hell videos than our Atheism videos featuring Madalyn Murray O'Hair! Is it that you want to know more about where you will be spending eternity? Albert Einstein believed in God so get out of your network of atheist ignorance!

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV I go to these "Hell videos" because I find it absolutely horrific that people believe this superstitious, non-empirical hogwash. You compared me to a loathsome insect, yet it is you as the fly, swarming over such feces. Don't ever speak of Albert Einstein so inaccurately. He did not believe in your God, he believed in "Spinoza's god", a METAPHORICAL deity of harmony, i.e., the laws of physics. Please tell me why did God make me in the first place, if He knows my destiny is hellbound?

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch IF it is true that you "find it absolutely horrific that people believe this superstitious, non-empirical hogwash" then WHY do you HAVE FAITH in ATHEISTIC SUPERSTITIOUS HOGWASH? You are TRAPPED in a completely irresponsible & ILLOGICAL phoney RELIGION known as ATHEISM. You say 1 billion ATHEISTS cannot be wrong but that is a logical fallacy known as APPEAL TO PREJUDICE (AD POPULUM). Atheists have NON- EMPIRICAL FAITH that God does not exist. Einstein said "God." Romans 9:11-24.

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV Get this fact straight, Einstein did not believe in your God, or the Judeo God. He believed in Nature, a poetic metaphor of the mathematics of physics. Look this up, I bet you haven't read a single Einstein book. I don't believe in superstition, I look for empirical evidence before I "believe" something. There's more evidence for evolution than there is gravity, and by the way, gravity is also just a theory. ALL the sciences point towards humanity's insignificance in the cosmos.

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch I NEVER said Einstein believed in the God of the Bible or anything of the sort. Einstein was NOT a Christian thus his "God" could not possibly be the same as the Bible's. I simply said Einstein believed in "God" (God does not play dice with the universe). You DO believe in "superstition" BECAUSE you believe in the RELIGION of EVOLUTION. NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS prove that you EVOLVED from a MONKEY or DEAD MATTER from a PRIMORDIAL SOUP, it's all religious GUESSWORK BASED ON BIAS.

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV Most creationists have such a colossal ego, that they fear death and superstition so much, that they cannot accept the fact that they are just living matter, bound to death, on a tiny, forgotten planet. You guys need to feel like the universal centrum, God's little pets. Your religion is slowly dying, and peace will one day emerge. You believe in absolute impossibilities, magic. Talking snakes, raising the dead, changing the properties of H2O into instant wine... fairytale magic.

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch The only one talking fairy tales is YOU. You start off with two typical atheist logical errors known as the GENETIC FALLACY followed by a HASTY GENERALIZATION. Next you follow those fallacies with STEREOTYPYING & next, BEGGING THE QUESTION. Because your EVOLUTIONARY RELIGIOUS FAITH is so strong you are unable to think in LOGICAL CATEGORIES. The ABSURDITY of your position is made plain by your proposition that GOD DOES NOT EXIST. You would have to have all KNOWLEDGE to know that!

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV Plenty of transitional fossils: Ida, Lucy, Homo habelis, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo Sapiens, and our cousin, as branching evidence, Homo Neanderthalis. You appear to only "teach" yourself the lexicon of creationist-science, an oxymoron in itself. Modern genetics proves evolution more than any fossils could. "I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind." -Einstein

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch When you die & your immaterial mind (soul) departs from your dead flesh & you find yourself in hell you'll realize that everything you're saying is a lie. These so-called transitional fossils you list aren't transitions at all (go to website: answersingenesis org) but Darwinian fairy tales. There are BILLIONS of fossils & you come up with these few worthless examples of non-transition!? "Even with DNA sequence data, we have no direct access to process of evolution" says Takahata.

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV Sir, there is no proof of an "immaterial mind". The soul is metaphorical byproduct of consciousness.

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch You being a materialist are FORCED to your "no proof" statement but alas REALITY does not fit your RELIGIOUS BELIEF SYSTEM of ATHEISM. Just as the IMMATERIAL emotions or LOVE or HATE exist, or the IMMATERIAL LAWS OF LOGIC exist, so too does the IMMATERIAL MIND. In not only experiments on the brain, but in actual operations, they have found that the "mind" is not part of the physical matter of the brain but is related (see "The New Atheism & the Erosion of Freedom" for references).

[recordingbean]

Hahahahha!! let's see !! hummm??? I am god,,I can do anything,,,I could just forgive the world for their sins,,after all I am benevolent and merciful..but no !! no that is just too easy..I need to see my son ie ME ! tortured,beatenned,bloodied,br­oken body dead !! oh yeah !! after that I can forgive anyone !! blood sacrifice is good!! SILLY !! SILLY !! IMBECILS !! THINK !! YOU NITWITS !! THINK!! does the story make sense??? Sounds like a pathetic being who enjoys pain and suffering !!

[CAnswersTV]

@recordingbean I had to delete your other comment because you had too much obscenity in it & I was about to block you as well when I noticed you had this second comment without obscenity. I liked the points you brought up in your other comment because it reminded me of the same points that old movie "Time Bandits" made about God & the Devil. God is OMNIPOTENT & OMNISCIENT & thus the Devil is only a created being who can only do what God allows (Job chapters 1 & 42)! The Devil is God's bellhop!

[ChocobosFTW]

What will you do when you die, and there is no god?

[CAnswersTV]

@ChocobosFTW The question you ask gives away the fact that you haven't spent much time pondering on the big questions of life: WHY AM I HERE? HOW DID I GET HERE? WHERE AM I GOING? WHAT IS TRUE IN REALITY? Logic itself tells you (the law of noncontradiction) that either ALL the religions of the world are FALSE or ONE of them is TRUE & ALL the OTHERS are false. All religions make TRUTH claims because after all IF there really is a God He SHOULD able to COMMUNICATE with us. Test the claims.

[VanKlaunch]

@CAnswersTV No, logic tells us that ALL religions are false.

[CAnswersTV]

@VanKlaunch Amazing that you, as a religious atheist (since Atheism IS a religious FAITH SYSTEM), would say that "ALL religions are false." You have just REFUTED YOURSELF! You practice your brand of RELIGION everyday of the week & it's called the "VanKlaunch Church of Making Myself the Judge of My Own Life Despite Facts to the Contrary." I understand though that since you are very young you already think you "know everything" since you have had some schooling per se, Einstein or no Einstein.

[Time2Repent]

For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.- 2 Peter 1:5-8

[ewffaces7]

What about people who never heard about Jesus Christ ?

[CAnswersTV]

@ewffaces7 That's a common question we'd receive when we were on university campuses, on our live call-in TV shows for 15 yrs on public access & also on our call-in radio shows on the Christian radio station here in Austin, TX. The apostle Paul answers that one in Romans 1:18-32, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven ... Because that which may be known of God is manifest to them; for God hath shewed it unto them ... they are without excuse ..." Everyone already knows there is a God.

[VitalSigns1]

But don't Christians specifically preach that you must come to know and love JESUS CHRIST, not just any God, but Christ in particular. And so that doesn't really answer the question if someone has not ever heard of Jesus Christ would they go to hell.

[ewffaces7]

Yes, of course the outside world will hate to hear this. There's got to be a better explanation.

Jesus Christ is not a tyrant !

Jesus Christ LOVED us and His Father send his only begotten son because he loved us. So he can not be a tyrant, acting like a devil.

Come on guys... this does not compute.

There MUST be a hidden truth that is not revealed.

Besides.... sin must be destroyed. Jesus Christ will not allow that sin will exist forever and ever.

[CAnswersTV]

@ewffaces7 "There MUST be a hidden truth that is not revealed" as you say, but actually the TRUTH is very plain in scripture but most people pretend it is not there. That's why the TRUTH seems hidden. Most TV preachers & pastors will not tell you what the Bible plainly says & that is that God does NOT love everybody - we have a 24 part debate on Youtube on this subject, click on CANSWERSTV to find it). Romans 9:11-13 is just one passage of many that clearly shows God only loves His ELECT.