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  • Remember Devils fans u not won the cup if not for bein from Kansas city scouts n col. rockies too....so and for atlanta we lost 2 teams one in calgary n winnipeg..now they have chance to win since Atlant sprit group ain't killin n waddell is 5year plan....winnipeg will make it to conf final vs boston for stanley cup too....and winner play either Chicago are vancouver in stanley cup final in 2012

  • Richter won this series for the Rangers.

  • I'm a Rangers fan, but Simpson did the right thing here - Karpovsev was trying to play tough guy with Dave Ellett and Reid called him on it. That's the way hockey should be played. Churla should have kicked the shit out of some non-fighting Devil though.

  • Gretzky like others that hated the fighting have to understand that there is fighting in this game for a reason. It keeps the sticks down, in this era of clutch and grab hockey, especially when it's against a big rival, you are going to have fights. Hockey is a brutal, territorial game, this is not Tennis or Baseball, there are no out of bounds. They say when you put a stick in a mans hand he falls back a few on the evolution chart, that might be right, but this IS hockey.

  • R.I.P. Peter Zezel.

    Underrated player, much like Pat Verbeek was.

  • The Rangers may have won the battle back in 1997 in the playoffs, and again in the 2008 playoffs, but they always lost the war thereafter, so actually, they're not all that good. And to Gretzky, fighting has always been in hockey, and it always will be, so get over it aready Great One !

  • Gretzky got a lot of room out there thanks to the FIGHTERS and TEAMATES who hunted down anyone who looked at him wrong...I'm sure he knows that but as the quote un-quote,ambassador of the game, was publicly against fighting...my opinion anyway...

  • fuck off gretzky...

  • RIP Peter Zezel....

  • seems that the Devils can't stand losing.. what a bunch of bitches!

  • @liberalinthedesertaz i agree thats why we went on to win three cups after the rags won one.

  • The only feasible way to eliminate fighting, Mr. Gretzky, is to widen the rink to the European size. And that cuts into prime seating, so that will never happen.

  • of course gretzky hate fighting, he was a skinny as a stick

  • @zonkedforlife2 it does if your going to attempt to be a tough guy then let mcsorley fight your battles for you.gretzky was the biggest pussy in league history.

  • like gretsky shaking his head because he was a pussy who couldn't fight but couldn't play without an enforcer how is that for irony

  • @bigpoppa2112 he wouldn't have needed an enforcer if there was no fighting in the NHL, just because you don't fight in hockey doesn't make you a pussy

  • @zonkedforlife2 LOL!!! The only time Gretzky was seriously injured in his entire career was when Gary Suter hit him from behind during the '91 Canada Cup. Gretzky had no protection ( no enforcer). After the Bruins permantly brought up enforcers again, Ulf Samuelsson quit trying to take out Neely's knee. After the Ducks traded for Jim McKenzie, Paul Kariya quit having injury problems. See a pattern?

  • Gretzky was nodding his head because he was dissappointed that NHL video games at the time didn't feature line brawls.

  • @SacTownSharksFan Do they now? I haven't bought one in years.

  • The great one hated fighting, but isn't it funny that he always had a tough guy to protect him in Edmonton, and when he was dealt to L.A. Mcsorley had to go with him.

  • @utvolsfan No Question. Without Coffey the Great One would not have been so great. Did Bosse need the same amount of help?

  • @umavunga He had his protection as well, Bob Nystrom, Clark Gillies those were the big two, but he also had some others that would come to his aid in a second. Every super star has had at least one or two tough guys to protect him, they have to.

  • i'm pretty sure gretzky was shaking his head because he couldn't believe how giant of a pussy shane churla was being by dodging a fight from simpson again (also refused to fight simpson earlier that season).

  • haha devils suck, cant play hockey so they gotta fight, they cant even do that well. Go Rangers, isles and devils are pussies always will be,

  • Real tough guy Simpson was, going after NON fighter Karpovsev, when tough guy Shane Churla was out there...Devils got raped in this series 4-1, yea baby!

  • @B2B76 Simpson went after Karpotsev after he graabed him from behind becomeing third man in and pulling him down to the ice.

    Simpson was just letting him know what happens when you grab someone from behind.

  • if wayne gretzky hates fightin what was his one fight with Broten of the North stars one time was

  • if wayne gretzky hates fightin what was his one fight with Broten of the North stars one time was

  • if wayne gretzky hates fightin what was his one fight with Broten of the North stars one time was

  • wait, what happened in this series? oh yeah..

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  • Gretzky never would've scored 20 goals in his whole career if he didn't have semenko, mcsorely, etc. taking care of his vagina. Douche.

  • Thats a great point, a whole rule change took place because of Marty McSorley. Because of the Gretzky and oiler domination in the 80's, coinciding fighting majors could no longer result in 4 on 4's. Fighting served gretzky and the oilers well. However, this in no way undermines the greatness of the 80's oiler dynasty.

  • this fucking commentator is annoying me to death....

  • gripesky, always wanted the game to move south, he said the americans think its more like the wwf all the fighting.

  • Gretzky's vagina hurt just watching this.

  • jonjugg - you are a moron.

    Boston has 5 cups, Chicago 3 cups and New York 4 cups. Thats 3 of the 6 orginal teams, all with about the same amount. Why? Montreal, Toronto, and Detroit had REGIONAL RIGHTS back in pre-modern NHL. In other words the Rangers, Bruins, and Hawks basically had FARMERS on their team.

    Try to educate yourself on hockey history sometime before you open your mouth next time.

  • You're right, they did have farmers on their team. So did the FIVE other teams that they actually competed against for the Cup year after year. Explain to me how, exactly, the Rangers having farmers on their team when they were competing in a 6 team league in which the other teams also had farmers, has anything to do with their lack of success in the modern era. No NYR "farmers" when the Devils and Isles were becoming dynasties. If anything, they spent more and won less without the cap.

  • jonjugg, are you a fucking retard? Serious question there. Are you? MONTREAL, DETROIT, AND TORONTO DID NOT HAVE FARMERS. They had the BEST TOP TALENT due to regional rights and Boston, NY and Chicago had the SCRAP LEFTOVERS!

    GOOD GOD ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB OR SOMETHING??? DID YOU EVEN READ WHAT HE SAID SHIT FOR BRAINS???

  • And the "best top talent" were what? Guys plucked from their homes by the government and groomed from the age of 5 to be hockey players? Not likely. Most were, guess what-  farmers, just Canadian farmers who happened to be more familiar with the game than their American counterparts (look it up). I hope Down's Syndrome isn't contagious, or you will definitely have infected your boyfriend by now, you fucking retard!!

  • @WeTrustChrist feel free to tune in and watch us compete in the playoffs this year since the Rangers will be on the golf course. Nice to see Queen Henrik can't hack it in a shootout with the season on the line. Don't forget to buy your tickets to the circus at MSG, starting April 14th.

  • @jonjugg compete? is that what you called that ass-raming you guys took from the flyers???

  • @tech9393 How many Rangers playoff games did you get to? I have my 3 Cups since 95 to fall back on. What do you have? 1 Cup since Pearl Harbor and another season where you couldn't scrap your way above 8th in the Conference to make the playoffs. Yeah, you win. Fucking retard!

  • @jonjugg you guys talk like you're so superior! you haven't won a playoff series since 2007. buh-bye! and i was told in life to be grateful with what the lord blesses us with. I don't care if it's 0 cups or 1 cup. but hey, you can keep bringing up your 95-00-03 crap all you want. yawn, it will be 2033 and Devils fans will be still bringing up their 3 cup "reign of terror" ...and at least we played the Flyers and made it look like something. instead of that genocide you guys took from philly!

  • @jonjugg king henrik is king brodeuor is just a fatso he will not be as great as lundqvist is so quiet 2011 king henrik and the rangers will kick some ass

  • @ACE101896 Yeah, obviously- the fact that he's never made it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs (and didn't reach the 1st round last season) only makes your argument that much more convincing. I hope for your sake that you're still 14 or younger, because if you're not, your obvious stupidity means that you will have a very difficult life ahead of you.

  • @jonjugg dnt ever say never cause henrik will make it out of the second round and yes im 13 and brodeuor is gonna rust like old warheads in seal beach

  • @ACE101896 You do realize that no matter what your opinion is, Brodeur is THE greatest goalie to ever play the game.

  • He has more wins than any other goalie, & also has 3 Cups, but an argument could easily be made that Bernie Parent, Jacques Plante, Patrick Roy, or Hasek are the best. Hasek's a good choice cause unlike Marty, who always had a great defense around him & often didn't face tons of quality shots in a game, in Hasek's early years with Buffalo he was THE DEFENSE & the DIFFERENCE. It's not Brodeur's fault, but in the Lemaire years the style of play was such that Brodeur's faced few shots per game.

  • You don't understand the meaning of the word "statistically," at all, do you? 3 Cups in 14 years vs. 4 since 1926. If you don't know which of these is a better statistic, you obviously lack a 6th grade education. Old times were like gladiator times? Ok, supposing that irrelevant statement actually meant something in terms of Cup wins, how do you explain the NYR's failure in the modern era? Isles won 4 in a row, Devils won 3 in 8 years, Rangers won what? 1 Cup in 69 years (and counting)?

  • Cup wins is of course the ultimate barometer of all things in hockey. But 2nd for me is series wins & as a Ranger fan it has been nice to see the Rangers win 4 out of 5 all time series between us & the Devils.

  • A Championship is a Championship. Whether it is in a 6 team league, or today. Still Rangers up 4-3 over the devils.

  • Keep telling yourself that, eventually you might believe it.  2 since 1940 or 3 since 1995, which is more impressive? Honestly?

  • I think it is more impressive that in our franchise history we won 4. In yours, 3. Do the math devils fans. 4 is more than 3. When are you devils fans going to listen? A Championship is a Championship.

  • You're a math guy- which is better statistically- 1 since 1940 or 3 since 1995? The Devils didn't exist before 1982. Here's another math question- 3 Cups won in a league consisting of only 5 other teams total, or 3 Cups won in a league consisting of at least 25 other teams? Which is the mathematically greater accomplishment in terms of probability?  Thanks for playing, jerkoff.

  • What is better statistically? 4 since 1926 is better than 3 since 1995. The devils didn't exist since 1982, that isn't the Rangers fault. Don't hate because the Rangers are an Original Six team. You devils fans need to stop twisting shit around. I could only mention so many times that the Old School NHL was like gladiator times on the ice, where getting your teeth knocked out would be the least of your worries. It is no easier than today's NHL.

  • Damn Rangers got knocked the fuck out.... and to the ass hole that said Rangers got 4 Cups vs. Devils 3... Yea Rangers were around when there were only 6 teams in the league... yet you only managed 4 Cups in your history....

  • Yet the devils managed 3 cup....still the underdogs

  • Boohoo Wayne. Shaking his head like the wimp he was. It's his fault we never get to enjoy a good bench clearing brawl anymore. He ruined hockey by crying about fighting all the time. He would have been beaten to a pulp in the 60s and 70s with or without a bodyguard. Bobby Orr would have pummeled him.

  • devil fans hate us because when the NYR

    come to Jersey they don't have all those

    empty seats around to put their coats and

    stuff on.

  • Yeah, it really sucks watching a Rangers fan with a broken nose take a backwards tumble down those stairs to the PATH . . .

  • What else do you see in your dreams???

    Besides a sold out Prudential Center.

  • I see at least 2 more Cups before you faggots even reach the finals. Would be easier to dispute that if your last 2 weren't 54 years apart, eh?

  • Great maybe you Homos can find enough

    pillow biting fans to line 2 sides of a street

    and have a real parade instead of mini

    PRIDE parade in the parking lot.

  • I don't blame you for talking about attendance, if my team was half as pathetic as the Rangers and played in Midtown Manhattan, I'd do the same. Fortunately I don't have that problem, the Devils won 3 in my lifetime. When the NHL starts awarding Stanley Cups for attendance, you cocksuckers might not be such a joke anymore. As long as they keep giving them out based on actual playoff wins, you'll always be 3rd best in the NY metro area. 1 Cup since Pearl Harbor, ouch!!!

  • Ok I admit it .The Devils are the greatest ...

    team that nobody gives a shit about.You

    need a Map to Kansas City or Hamilton

    (Ontario not Mercer County)cause that's

    where your team will be when they get tired of hearing crickets on gamenights.

  • Losers cling to attendance while winners talk Cups. Nobody gives a shit about the Devils? You apparently do. Hurts watching your team fail year after year after decade, doesn't it? Until the Devils move or the Rangers win another Cup, shut the fuck up, you're embarassing yourself.

  • Yes the failure hurts,except the 4 out of 5

    years they met in the playoffs and bounced the devils,but I will always look at

    the glass as half-full til the end every year.

    Just like the Rock every night the NJD play.

  • Yeah, those early round playoff wins vs. NJ definitely equal a Stanley Cup victory, if not 2- you fucking mongoloid. Once again, a Rangers fan talks attendance because he knows he can't talk success. I said it earlier, I'll say again, win another Cup or shut the fuck up! Until then, you're embarassing yourself and your fucking joke of a franchise. New York is a much bigger market than Montreal, how many Cups did the Canadiens win while you got 4? NJ- bad attendance, 3 Cups since 94- ouch!

  • Ok say now your gonna hitch your boat to

    Montreal now too.You should stop going

    to Devil games,I think that loneliness is

    what has you so frustrated.

  • Hitch my boat to Montreal? Do you have Downs Syndrome? My team has 3 Cups since the Rangers last one (and only one in 69 years and counting). I just brought up Montreal to show what a good team with the Rangers' resources could have done over the years. What did NY actually do? They sat and watched the Isles win 4 and the Devils win 3!! Then again, you Rangers fans always have that precious "attendance" to cling to. . . ha ha ha. I'm sure that feels twice as good as Cup wins!

  • It's better to see a devils fan, with a hockey stick, buried in his ass in NYC.

  • Spoken like a born fucking loser a/k/a a NY Rangers fan. Still shit after all these years? Why?

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  • The Rangers will become a great team once again. And, if you want to see what a loser looks like, just go take a look in your mirror.

  • @carlinrulez666 I'm sure that's true. They will probably have an excellent team in 2048, but not before. Until then, keep quoting attendance figures while the Rangers shit the bed. Devils are in the playoffs again. The Rangers are putting up a brave fight to capture 9th place. Come on Rangers, if you really put your minds to it and commit as a team to putting your best effort forward every night, you might, just might, capture 8th place in the conference. Not fucking likely though, eh?

  • @jonjugg The Rangers will make the playoffs. And we will win many Cups before 2048.

  • Devils being sore losers. Some things never change. Gretzky looked like a historic figure in that shot, looking down upon the brawl from above.

  • i LOVE team brawls

    especially ones with my team involved with them :)

  • it doesnt matter how many cups were won, when they were won and all that bullshit. the devils will ALWAYS be the rangers bitches.

  • see if u understood sports you wouldnt say that. devs not playin wellnow but 3 cups in 9 vs. 1 in 60. what about the national SI article about the devs spending half what the rangers have done over the decade and being ahead of them 12 times straight. u had us in a few playoff series but we have the holy grail-u money and no ones respect. rangers are the paris hilton of the nhl-rich, spoiled with no talent

  • you need to go read a book on hockey history. Rangers won 3 cups in 12 years...Devils on 3 in 9. Big deal, a 3 year difference.

    Yeah, the Rangers went 54 years until their next one, but the Devils might not win one for another 60 years or EVER.

    Rangers Cups - 4

    Devils Cups - 3

    Thats all that matters

  • sorry, devils are way better than the rangers. fact.

  • wait, Atlantic Division champions, again?

    Devils will always be there.

    The Rangers need to get lucky to do it, just goes to show the difference in mentality of individuals vs a TEAM

  • division champions eh? you got raped by the canes in 30 seconds bitch aint no divison champion

    division CHUMP

  • Are you really that fucking stupid? Think about what you just said. You're going to compare 3 Cups in 12 years in a 6 TEAM LEAGUE to the Devils 3 since 1995? How many extra chromosomes do you have? Do you have a person that cares for you full-time while you're drooling all over the monitor and typing with your nose? All that matters? You obviously know a lot about hockey, you fucking mongoloid!

  • The Devils might not win a nother cup for 50 years just like alot of teams. The Rangers might not either, but theyll still have more cup wins.

  • They do have more Cup wins, no arguments there. But 3 of those Cup wins came in a league consisting of 5 other teams. The Devils have 3 in the modern era and the Isles have 4, why does the rich team from the biggest sports market on Earth only have 1 since 1940? Explain how that's not embarassing to the Rangers? I'm all ears . . .

  • It isn't the Rangers fault that they played in an era where they were one of the "Original Six" teams. I don't look at it since 1940. Why should I? The Rangers organization started in 1926, not 1940. I look at it since the Rangers franchise was formed. You do the same with the devils. What's next, you want an asterisk put next to the first three, of the Rangers four Championships?

  • I wouldnt count cups pre-expansion era.

  • Why not? A Cup is a Cup.

  • not when u are up against 5 other teams. Not as hard as getting 3 cups today

  • What, do you want an asterisk next to the Rangers first 3?

    It isn't the Rangers fault they originally played in an era with 5 other teams. Why should they be penalized? You can't just take their cups away, because of those circumstances.

  • ROFL. I'm not saying they haven't won the cups, just that they are not as hard earned as Oilers cups or Rangers cup in 94.

  • Back in the day, hockey is a lot more rough and dangerous than it is today. Damn, even goaltenders didn't wear masks until Jacque Plante wore one. You had to be physically and emotionally tough to play the game. Much tougher than now.

  • Again that was not my argument. It's the whole deal with only 5 other teams to compete with. Now you are competing 29 other teams. Its much harder (not tougher) to win a cup today. Now read my replies and think before replying yourself.

  • Much harder to win a Cup today? Not compared to the 1920s, 30s or 40s. I don't know too many players today, that wouldn't shit on themselves, if they played in those decades that I mentioned. No helmets, goaltenders didn't wear facemasks, etc. The World, as well as professional sports, is softer today, than in the past. I would like to see today's players play in an era where they didn't wear helmets. If anything, it was a lot harder to win, back then.

  • Sorry but you are to stupid too understand what I am saying so there is not much for to do as you keep repeating yourself with the same stupid argument over and over again. It was TOUGHER back in the 20s yes. BUT it is MUCH HARDER to win a CUP TODAY because there are 29 OTHER TEAMS competing than in the 20s where there were ONLY 6 TEAMS TOTAL.

  • Tougher, harder? I'm sorry, is there a difference?

  • The Rangers won more Cups than the devils, yet somehow despite that, you say that the devils are a better franchise. I repeat myself, because you don't listen.

    4 > 3.

    Just in case you couldn't figure it out. 4 is more than 3. Facts are facts. Stop trying to twist it around. And yet, you call me stupid. You, and the rest of the devils fans that think like you, are ignorant to the facts, and ignorant about what I said.

  • Yes you are stupid as you still can't see my point. Now stop typing and embarrass yourself.

    We can have a look at it like this to. Devils have 3 Cups in 27 years and during 60 years Rangers won 1 cup. In Rangers franchise history you have 4 cups which you won only 3 when competing with only 5 other teams. You call that good? Although there is no point replying to you as you will still not understand.

    PS. I'm not a Devils fan.

  • I'm not saying the Rangers are the greatest in NHL history, but we are a better team than the devils. You aren't a devils fan, you are however an a-hole. Why should I look at what the Rangers have done since 1940, when the Rangers were around since 1926? A Cup is a Cup, 4 is more than 3. If the Rangers were founded in 1940, or if the devils won 5, you would have a point. Stop trying to glorify the devils, and bury the Rangers.

  • See... You still don't get the point. Rangers doesnt win cups, Devils however do. Year after year. Devils won cups when Rangers, with all their over payed stars, didn't even manage to make the playoffs. Most people/media/fans talks about modern time hockey. Post-expansion hockey. But I guess numbnuts like you has to cling to ancient history cause your team sucks.

  • Numbnuts? I heard that was your nickname, pal. I'm from NY, and we go for the Rangers. I am not from jersey, or long island, or philly. NY born and raised. I am not clinging to ancient history. I am just merely stating facts. Rangers 4, devils 3. Stop looking for reasons to put the devils over the Rangers. Just stop. If the devils can win two more Cups, then you would have a point. Until then, you don't. Even if that was the case, I will always be a Ranger fan.

  • Granted, facing 29 teams isn't easy to go after a Championship. But, that doesn't mean, considering the era, facing 5 other teams from the 1920s is any easier. It was gladiator times back then. Not so much now. Despite 29 teams, it is a walk in the park, compared to the early years of the NHL. They didn't have to deal with much, compared to the "Original Six" era, despite 29 other teams.

  • You can't watch many hockey games. Granted there were more morons in the 20 hitting you in the face and stuff. But in these days you do actually need to work out and train everyday. The game is faster, heavier, bigger and harder.

  • Thank you.

  • Devils were PWND in this series.

  • Sure, what were like 6 or 8 Devils goals waived off?

  • of course gretzky shakes his head, he hates fighting.

  • Still 4 Cups to your 3.

  • 10-2 Nice game the other night!!! 4 losses in a row! rangers Suck!!!

  • Matteau, Matteau, Matteau !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 3 Cups since! 3 Cups since! 3 Cups since! You're team is sinking faster than the fucking Titanic. Typical fucking Rangers.

  • 4 Cups total, 4 Cups total, 4 Cups total. Haha.

  • Only a Rangers fan could bring that up without being embarassed. 4 Cups total, and 1 since World War II, 1 since you had more than 5 other teams to play against. Montreal won 24 in that time, yet you're bragging about 4? Only in NY, only in NY. You're right, those 4 Cups, 3 of them won before your grandfather had pubic hair, are sooooo much more impressive than our 3 since 1995. Admit it, the Rangers paid too much for guys who don't produce . . again. Fiiiiii-iiiiire Saaaather!

  • Rangers kick the debbie's asses AGAIN!!!!LMAO!

  • lets go devils

  • Sit down Gretzky you pussy..........

  • only the best player if history u fuck head

  • True, I dont know why Langdon was on the bench in this situation, but Shane Churla was out there but u can see the linesmen holding him back. All in all Potsy handled himself pretty well against tough Reid Simpson.

  • 20 seconds left, 3rd period, bigtime rivalry...and the Rangers didn't put any of their tough guys out there?

  • wow.. devils are real tough.. two fighters start fighting with none fighters with their sticks.. machoooooo

  • Gretzky....big hairy pussy.....

  • You said it man. Thank goodness his crying ass is out of the league!

  • I can understand his point. You want to send a message? Score a couple goals. Beating the piss out of a non-fighter only galvanizes your opponent.

  • who the fuck is simpson never heard of him and im a devils fan seems like a fucking lunatic

  • Reid Simpson was a tough guy and maniac lol

  • Simpson didn't look all that tough going after Potsie.

    I hate the Rangers, but this was a douchebag move by the Devils, and I'm glad the Rangers eventually beat them in this round of the playoffs.

  • lol yeah i meant that cuz he was the enforcer but he was pasted by Stu

  • You're right. I'm a Devils fan and I don't agree with this stuff. If two goons want to square off, fine. The other stuff is bush league. I understand being frustrated because you're losing, but this is uncalled for.

  • simpson wouldn't have gone after karpotsev if he didn't pull him down from behind. its the rangers fault by not sending out langdon, beukeboom, and cairns. it also didn't help that shane churla was hiding from everyone.

  • the rangers were in command. why would they need to send out tough guys like your punkass team did. langdon wouldve SMOKED anyone on that team!!!

  • It's was the Devils' fault for taking their beating like a bunch of whiny bitches

  • Gretzky wasn't nodding because he hate fights, he was nodding because he wasn't on the ice to get his hands on Simpson.

  • good times!

  • Well....I guess they had Churla but he was nowhere to be found.

  • Now I remember why I never respected Gretzky. And why didn't the Rangers have any toughness out on the ice with 30 seconds left in a 3-0 game. They had the last line change but, oh yeah -- its Gretzky, it the Rangers.

  • This is acually the 1996-97 season. Game 4 of a series the Rangers would win in 5, on a Adam Graves wraparound goal, good times!

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