It's vegetarian that offends me, that's why I'm a fruitarian. Go go go pleasurable meaning to life!!! I love to say this: love the animals, hug the pigs!
@foolsrushin87 "...The Glucose/Fructose/Sucrose is not only for the cells..."
There are dozens of scientific studies showing the dangers of sugar consumption, especially fructose. Nobody should have to explain those to you - do the research. See what Lustig says - he's a bit extreme sometimes, but the science is sound.
Those sugars also feed cancer and other unhealthy things too, you know... As well as shooting my blood glucose to the moon...
@foolsrushin87 Yes, the pathway is simpler and preferred by our lazy body. This isn't news. However the fact remains and will always remain that one molecule fat can generate much more ATP than glucose.
And no, you don't need to eat a strict carnivorous diet or fast... you simply need to either exercise at lower intensity (which is useless, imho) OR be in ketosis.
Personally, I've been in ketosis now for just over a year, have lost 100lbs, and am loving it.
@foolsrushin87 "...It seems like you were the lazy one for many years..."
Nope, not lazy. I suffered a spinal injury and spent more than 5 years on my back without the ability to exercise. Unfortunately I didn't monitor my calories properly, and with the depression that can come from that kind of situation, yes I over-ate and gained weight.
I have no issues with letting people know that as I took control of my life and fought back. I'm a success-story, not lazy.
@foolsrushin87 Depending on your weight even eating 150g of carbs a day will put you into ketosis. You eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs then you're not eating a carnivorous diet. Carnivore = a diet of ONLY meat.
@SecretsOfLongevity "...Depending on your weight even eating 150g of carbs a day will put you into ketosis. You eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs ..."
Exactly. I'm 6'3" and 224lbs as of this a.m. I have a 50" chest, 16" arms, 27" quads, 19.5" calves and a 35" waist. On a day where I exercise heavy, 150g of carbohydrate won't come close to replenishing skeletal muscle glycogen... let alone kick me out of ketosis.
@SecretsOfLongevity "...ou eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs then you're not eating a carnivorous diet..."
I don't know why more people don't understand that.
When I tell people I eat LCHF they picture my dinner as a 20oz porterhouse slathered in bacon... When in reality it's more like a 10-12oz grass-fed steak or 2 chicken breasts with brocolli/asparagas, etc., and 5-6 cups of fresh, organic salad...
@foolsrushin87 "...so limiting these to stay in Ketosis would put you into a carnivorous diet..."
Yes, you're missing something.
I eat as much as 8-12 cups of vegetables a day - especially love salads. Non-starchy vegetables are full of nutrients and very low-carb - yet incredibly healthy.
I eat very little fruit, and no starch. I get the vast majority of my carbohydrate from non-starchy veggies, small portions of low-GI fruits and the very rare piece of sprouted-grain bread.
@foolsrushin87 "...Last time I check.. only fruits and veggies contained carbs.. so limiting these to stay in Ketosis would put you into a carnivorous diet. Am I missing something? ..."
This, btw, is a common misconception - that eating low carb means eating huge piles of meat and no veggies...
I eat WAY more veggies than I do meat. 3/4 of my intake is vegetables. I have 4-6 cups salad with all lunches and dinners... I eat way more vegetables than most vegetarians I know...
@foolsrushin87 BTW - on a day where I don't exercise (I usually exercise a minimum of 90 minutes a day 5-6 days a week) I will have 30-60g of carbohydrate, yes. But have you ever SEEN how much green leafy vegetables you get for 30g of carb intake?
Most days I eat anywhere from 45-90g, depending on what kind/intensity of exercise. Some days I eat 150-200g if I know I'll actually use that carbohydrate without increasing my blood glucose. (IE: 70-100 mile bike ride that day.)
lol your not promoting yourself very well Zak. First you take the piss out of Fruitarians and then you say "I'm not trying to make enemies." Remember many people turn to raw foods and fruitarianism to cure cancer and many other diseases/conditions and many have had huge success. Don't get me wrong I have a sense of humour, but taking the piss out of people who are trying their best to live healthy lives is just wrong. You shouldn't let other peoples diets offend you.
@leahcimrac No one's diet offends me, maybe you should examine why this video offends you? I'm taking the piss out of people's attitudes and belief systems, not the diet itself. If you'd follow my work more closely you'd hear me say this repeatedly about high carbohydrate diets, that I completely support anyone following them who is getting positive results. What's ridiculous is when teachers of any one dietary system create a paradigm where no other way of eating is healthy.
@SecretsOfLongevity "...If you'd follow my work more closely you'd hear me say this repeatedly about high carbohydrate diets, that I completely support anyone following them who is getting positive results..."
I *so* agree with this statement. For me, as a formerly-obese diabetic with permanently damaged beta-cell function, I *MUST* eat low-carb if I want to avoid insulin and/or other meds.
And I feel great on it, luckily. Whatever diet you're truly healthy on ... EAT.
@LCHFinCanada "...Whatever diet you're truly healthy on ... EAT..."
... now that being said, I must state that if you are on any vegan diet - please ensure you get regular B12 supplementation and get regular labs done to find any other nutrient that might be deficient and supplement it.
Vegetarianism or veganism are absolutely healthier than the Standard American Diet, but veganism especially does require supplementation regardless of what some non-MD's erroneously claim.
like I said, fat molecules take longer to digest, utilize and absorb, and thus effect the amount of acetyl CoA/ATP you have.
They all lose to something called glucose and fructose. Starch, glucose, and fructose are easier to utilize than fat.
Thus when a athlete takes in fat before a race and competes against athletes that eat a diet high in sugar, the athlete that takes in high amounts of fat will lose the race.
@CBasie2856 The discussion isn't simply about elite athletes. Looking at the 99.99% of the rest of us, there's no need for that level of physical performance in our everyday lives, is there?
Thus, why eat so many starches, if it's obviously been leading more and more to obesity?
CBasie, you're generalizing the human species far too much.
Do humans share the same physiological properties? Usually, sure. But we do not share IDENTICAL physiologies. Not even close. So no, regardless of species, human, lion, dogs, rabbits, etc. we are not physiologically IDENTICAL, as you suggest.
Far from it. To even suggest we are is to be - no offense - quite ignorant of biology.
You should study biological individuality. We have individual metabolisms, nutritional needs, etc.
but we have the same anatomy of organs and tissues, and in saying that, we have the same physiology . Just some people have more damage to their tissues, more fat cells, and more disease than others, thus effecting metabolism, nutritional needs like you suggest.
if you look at a picture of the human anatomy on google, all humans have that same basic structure and layout of the organs. Do they not? So basically, we have the same physiology and functions, anatomy, etc...
@CBasie2856 "what differences are those then? Name one" ... You're kidding, right?
wow, how about blood type, race, height, metabolism, genetic differences, there's literally millions of differences in individuals. We are NOT identical.
Then there's the cultural differences - some cultures are much more active than others, some primitive cultures are still primarily hunter-gather types, some modern cultures use bicycles vs. cars... the list goes on and on.
metabolism, race and height: did you know that you can have the same basic anatomy and function, but a different metabolism race or height?
genetics: hey most peoples anatomy is the same despite the minority of people that may have certain growths and tumors at birth.
blood type: ahhh, but cats have different blood types too, but you don't say that they should be fed different diets based on their blood type right? All cats eat meat and have to eat meat.
As I said, YES we have the same BASIC anatomy and physiology, but with various differences that ensure no ONE diet is right for everybody. I'm not sure why you can't understand that.
Genetics isn't just about growths and tumors. Metabolism alone will mean different diets are needed for different people. Factor that in with genetics, lifestyle, etc., and it becomes OBVIOUS to anyone intelligent that we all have different dietetic/nutritional needs.
Glycemic-rating notwithstanding, all carbohydrate will increase the blood glucose of anybody with metabolic syndrome or diabetes... not a good thing to recommend massive amounts of starch to anyone in that situation.
from durian ryders skanks page, her top comment of the day for u folks '' oh our that cunt who has made another station in hopes of finally getting the attention that bulimia didnt provide or was i daddy, then bannamia were u gorge on bannans like there uncle didles cocks that gave u the bulimia in the first place, now your finally able to be a cock tease without being fat or puking, how proud u must be but why sell a diet that makes incapable of childbirth?''
"The effects of pre-exercise starch ingestion on endurance performance."
Those subjects ingesting glucose (as opposed to starches) had highest levels of circulating glucose as well as the highest work output while cycling. However, total carbohydrate oxidation rates were no different than those who took waxy or resistant starches.
The fuel is the same, but pure glucose provides a slightly higher work output than starches when ingested prior to competition/endurance training.
true. That's why durianrider is able to function off of dates for his main glucose/fructose source during any race he does. Fruit, according to him, is better than white rice and starches.
durianrider only eats dates during races. Dates are a dried fruit, better digested than starch, but slow releasing of concentrated energy.
Don't let me get into vegetables... we all know that if we just lived on vegetables, our bodies would shrivel up and eventually die :)
@CBasie2856 what's your issue with vegetables?? There are NO nutrients in fruit you cannot also get with vegetables... And those come without the extra calories or glucose spike that affect many people who have metabolic syndrome or diabetes.
Unless you're actually exceptionally active, ingesting your carbohydrates from fruits instead of vegetables will eventually lead to metabolic issues. This is medically factual.
I hope you're not buying the 'fruitarian' being healthy myth.
Nothing. Its just that vegetables shouldn't be a staple. Fruits, or starch should be the staple. Add a lot of vegetables, and maybe a tiny piece of meat once every two days and you got yourself a nice diet.
There are a few examples of healthy fruitarians. While some of them are unhealthy, not all of them are unhealthy.
@CBasie2856 Unfortunately a blanket statement like that doesn't work for the entire world. Biological Individuality and all...
For example, I'm a severe diabetic. My staple (unless I want to be on multiple medications and insulin) is healthy fats. My secondary macronutrient is protein, and I keep my own carbohydrate intake severely restricted.
That's the diet that works for me, but would be restrictive and unnecessary for another.
@CBasie2856 and many, many medical and nutritional experts would disagree on fruits or starches being the staple.
Any obesity expert or anyone with a physiological understanding of fructose metabolism would certainly disagree that fruits should be a staple.
I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas, but they're not scientifically or medically sound. If you think they are, I'd love to see your studies showing so.
Hahahahahaha...I eat mostly plants and I find this video hilarious. I personally don't care what anyone eats, but when people start claiming their diet is the only way...that gets on my nerves even if I agree with their dietary approach.
@antioxidants87 All medical textbooks in the world state that fatty acids are the preferred fuel for the heart and skeletal muscle as well as many organs. The organs that don't run well on fatty acids run on ketones with an improved performance over glucose. I quote sources for those statements in the last third of this video here. Also watch the other videos in the series as you are sorely mistaken on a number of points: /watch?v=IRwOi2WKfyA
For further discussion please post a video response.
Glucose is the preferred source of ATP though, because glucose automatically goes through the glycolysis and citric acid cycle processes, while fat must first be broken down into glycerol and fatty acids before it can start the glycolysis and citric acid cycle processes. Amino acids must first be converted to keto acid and ammonia before it can be converted to pyruvic acid and start the citric acid cycle.
@CBasie2856 Yes, I know they're different. Which is why I was wondering why glucose being the preferred source of ATP was your reasoning behind eating so much fructose.
@CBasie2856 Well, it IS true, but that conversion is complicated and requires a high level of specific micronutrients to be effective. One of the many reasons why fructose is problematic.
@Lakkhesis1976 Just a point - although glucose is the PREFERRED source for ATP - this only means the body uses circulating glucose FIRST, unless the body is in a ketogenic state, then it uses fat.
Fat is also a more efficient source of ATP than glucose - unless working at a nearly anaerobic threshold. (The most elite of athletes will need glucose (from carbohydrate) for fuel - the rest of us, not so much.)
If you use starch, your using a way more efficient energy source than fat. Sugars are digested and converted quicker than fats.
Starch is a slow carbohydrate burning food. It can last you the whole day, while it would take something like eating pounds of dates like Durianrider does to actually allow a fruitarian to win against someone who eats a bunch of starch.
@CBasie2856 also of note - starches, even whole-grain breads, start to become glucose in the saliva. Before you've even swallowed...
Unless you're swallowing things un-cooked and un-chewed, it's quickly absorbed and becomes glucose. If you swallow something that's not even chewed though, it will mostly be fiber and un-usable to you as fuel.
Potatoes, Pasta, etc. all spike glucose faster than all get-out.
You know what actually slows their digestion? Including FAT with them.
those starches are shit and unhealthy. Wheat, pasta, rye, chips, bagels, fries nowadays are loaded with chemicals.
Potatoes in moderation, and choose red or gold potatoes over white potatoes. Healthy, gluten free and low glycemic starches are white rice, squash, maize, organic white rice pasta, sweet potatoes, green beans, taro, lentils, pumpkin, cassava, taro, carrots, wheat-free spelt bread, kamut bread, quinua.
@CBasie2856 The problem is the type and amount of starches you're recommending is unhealthy for the vast majority of westerners, whether in the Americas or Europe.
Those civilizations living (or who lived) on primarily starches are MUCH less-sedentary and eat much less (total caloric intake) than the people reading youtube comments.
As such, starches as a staple don't work for modern western civilization and is contributing to obesity.
@CBasie2856 Well, as mentioned, MOST of the cultures in Asia eating these foods eat FAR fewer calories than the rest of the modern world...
Okinawans, for example, traditionally ate far fewer calories even than the Japanese... and most of their diet (roughly 70%) was the Okinawan Sweet Potato, which is MUCH lower GI than the sweet potatoes/yams being sold to most of us in N.America...
As such it's not even the same food. And asians don't eat much rice, truth be told...
the sweet potato in America is MUCH lower in GI than regular potatoes. Relying on these starches then should be enough to keep your glucose stable.
but asian's heavily rely on starches, its true. However, not all of them rely on the same staple. For some, its potatoes, for some its rice, for some its sweet potatoes. In Africa, what is more common is cassava, taro.
Like the N. Indians in North America, typical foods were corn, squash, beans, pumpkin, potatoes.
@CBasie2856 "Relying on these starches then should be enough to keep your glucose stable."
Again, that all depends on the individual... remember, we ARE all different. Some people have diabetes - Type I is not something that's usually developed in infancy (It's an autoimmune thing) or youth - and with those starches as a staple, would quickly lead to death.
Not everybody responds to the same diet... For example, I can't eat ANY starches even in very small amounts.
we are different in the aspect that we all have been bombarded with processed foods, effecting the functioning of organs and glands, each a little bit differently.
but all humans have the same physiology, just as all lions have the same physiology, all dogs, all rabbits, etc...
one day, you might not need to rely on high fat anymore.
one day, you will be able to eat starch again without it effecting your glucose levels.
@CBasie2856 also of note, the reason top endurance athletes fill up on starches isn't because they perform better on it - they don't. It's because it's caloric-density allows them to get enough carbohydrate to fully load their glycogen stores.
That's the only reason. If you tried to fully load glycogen stores with say, leafy-greens, it would take BUCKETS full.
Starchy carbs have no performance benefit over non-starchy, except density allowing more carbs per gram/weight of food.
@CBasie2856 Respectuflly, how do they help you perform BETTER than any other form of carbohydrate? There is no scientific basis for that statement.
If it were true, explain why elite endurance athletes use glucose gels/drinks during races instead of potatoes.
Elite endurance performance is based on the athletes ability to have enough glycogen stores, and their ability to burn both the body's glycogen, available fatty-acids, and supplement during the event with glucose gels/drinks.
@antioxidants87 We have no hard data of atherosclerosis in their population before industrialized foods were introduced into their diet. They did have 0 cases of tooth decay and heart disease anecdotally before processed foods were introduced into their diet. The same thing is true of many indigenous cultures who don't have fruit in their diets.
Humans have always been omnivores, again watch my video series on animal foods to be corrected on your misinformed vegan belief system.
Charles Darwin, who originated the theory of evolution, even suggested that man was a frugivore, and was incapable of competing with the larger beasts.
If you want to hear the exact quotes from Charles Darwin saying that man is a frugivore, I can post them for you.
@CBasie2856 ?! That proves nothing, he didn't do research on that topic, he didn't have the evidence of calcium and strontium isotopes of human teeth that clearly show none of our ancestors were ever 100% without meat in their diet. Make a response to the facts I present in this video if you want to engage in this discussion because all of the references are already up for debate: /watch?v=58c1KLFhBaI
As it currently stands humans have eaten a very HIGH meat diet for 2.6 miilion years.
@CBasie2856 So?!? Henry ford invented the automobile but that doesn't make him an expert on drag racing. Your arguments follow absolutely no logical train of thought. Whenever the word frugivore came into usage has no bearing on the science of what we know for a fact of what humans have evolved eating. Watch the flippin' video I linked to above and discard the misleading and insane ideas about the human diet!
@antioxidants87 In the wild you can't be picky, no, but it is well documented that all tribal cultures prized larger and older animals which have more fat on them. Moose for instance develop a thick slab of fat on their back that can weigh up to a hundred pounds alone when it's older. Paleo is not survival, it was the thriving diet of our ancestors. If you want to carry on this debate please make a video response as I am not wasting my time make points that you can learn from watching my videos.
So accurate and hilarious. They care nothing about genetics and the high oxidizers, they just guilt us. An african from the equator needs a different diet than an inuit or irish person. Why is that so hard to understand?
Notice how it is only the young and the naive who are gravitating towards these high-strung imbecilic fad diets based on pseudo-science and extremism?. Anyone who has either A) earned an education in the sciences, or B) has actually attained some longevity themselves, can see right through this bollocks. The key to longevity, ***THE*** key is to avoid extremism and fanaticism. No joke, studies on centenarians fail to find ANY common denominators across the board, other than a positive attitude.
@antioxidants87 All meat contains vitamin C (if the animal you're eating has been getting it in it's diet) until you cook it. Certain organs contain vit. C as well which is how the Inuit didn't get scurvy.
You don't have instincts to kill animals for food because you've grown up shopping at grocery stores and having things ready made and prepared for you. You also don't have the instincts to be able to harvest enough plants and roots etc in the wild to survive. We can handle flesh for much...
@SecretsOfLongevity ...longer than just a "bit". Not sure what you're trying to describe there... "Plus we need vegetation to prevent long term constipation unlike omnivores." I've never had constipation problems from eating high amounts of meat, even when I've gone a few days eating ONLY meat. The problem comes in when you eat lean meat and other foods high in protein and not containing enough fat. Also having healthy gut flora and being hydrated affect bowel motility much more than fiber does.
@antioxidants87 How does fructose produce the the previtamin to D3, I'm assuming you mean D2. Do you have any references for that? How does paleo push a body into "survival mode" and what is this "survival mode"?
@SecretsOfLongevity Amazing how many people will not catch that, isn't it? My old martial arts teacher was a Vajrayana Buddhist and I learned quite a few things about Tibet Buddhist teaching and ritual from him ... That chant is familiar.
@SecretsOfLongevity You are right about that. Too many people take this way too seriously. That's why I don't really watch durianrider's videos anymore. He makes fruitarians look bad with his cocky attitude. Stuff he says like "you cant success on 811 without dates and bananas", "You must piss 3 or more times a night for proper hydration", etc. gets on my nerves.
@CBasie2856 That's extremely vague and a baseless claim.Cult definition: 1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
Omnivorism doesn't fit either of those two definitions. If anything I've found those who consume animal foods to be more open and willing to discuss and look at hard evidence. I just got blocked from a...
@SecretsOfLongevity ...fruitarian FB page the other day for posting a link to a few studies that happened to be in opposition to the point this person was making. When someone begins censoring the comments on their social media platforms beyond just eliminating the disrespectful trolling behaviour, you have the beginnings of a very unhealthy dogmatic attitude.
if you look more closely, both fruitarianism and omnivorism are cults.
They both have their own religious beliefs. One of them views you HAVE to have meat or else you will be unhealthy and the other one believes you don't have to have meat to be healthy.
Saying that all fruitarians are weak and emaciated and that you need meat or else you will die is like saying "Omnivorism is the only way to be truly healthy", which is a religious belief in a way.
@CBasie2856 It's rare that omnivorous promoting health teacher say that outright, please do show me some examples. Again most people promoting the use of animal foods are saying something along the lines of "we have different requirements, some of us need more animal foods than others".
The vegan approach is more often then not much more vehemently opposed to any form of animal foods and denies any existence of people consuming them and being successful. Censorship is a sign of a cult.
@CBasie2856 Well without backing up your claim it's not relevant to the conversation. It's not integrous that they banned you but that alone doesn't mean they're cult-like.
I've seen a lot of comments both ways as well. One very common theme among cults is feeding their members a very low protein and low fat diet which leads to mental malleability. Sound familiar? rickross .c om/reference/general/general431 .h tml
There's multiple things in the LFRV community that are cult-like & exclusionary.
Btw, when you speak of fruitarian, are you talking about only 80/10/10'ers or people in general that have a high consumption of fruits and vegetables?
Dan McDonald has been a fruitarian for 10 years and lives off 50% fruit and 50% vegetables, but he isn't 80/10/10 or dogmatic at all. He looks pretty healthy.
a few of the 80/10/10's are healthy, but not all of them. Those that usually include more green vegetables and herbs/salads in their diet usually get more benefits than those that don't.
So you are not against the raw vegan movement in general as long as its not strict high fat or LFRV?
@CBasie2856 If someone is having success on any diet I'm fine with them eating that way but when they start ignoring the warning signs in their own body as well as recommending the diet as being the one and only way to eat and not being open to even basic discussions on the topic, then do I start calling them out on what they advocate.
I wish you had said the stuff more funny, I mean the words were kinda funny, but the execution was a little ridiculous in some cuz it took too long to get the joke out. Faster clips would have been funnier
Also, you notice these fruitarians, they kind of like to live off the grid in a kind of scavenger of fruit, constant survival mode, as if they're rebelling against what their mind and body is really needing. They're the ones who need to wake up and get the download update. ALSO, DurianRider got his balls tied up so he can't have KIDS! At 32 yrs. old. What a joke. Just shows you he's no being his AUTHENTIC HUMAN SELF!
@TheChertron Do a search on "vasectomy testicle shrinkage" and you'll see why I don't recommend that procedure. I wasn't going to go there in this vid though...
30BAD diet..haha Durianrider(madman) can say some inspirational things, bud all of his diet material is just misleading and at the end of the day just the worst thing you could do for LONGEVITY. The people that I know around me that have lived the longest(92-105yrsold) have eaten a mediterranean diet.
As I've said in former posts here at Longevity Nation, D.R., or whatever his real name is, is a cult leader. Anyone who has properly studied cult-like behavior will tell you that some form of coercive persuasion or mind control is always used to recruit and maintain members by suppressing their ability to reason, think critically, and make choices in their own best interest. As I've watched this madman, this is definitely D.R. & Fruitarianism to a Tee. Steel your minds, kindred :)
I personally thrive on a high raw diet, say 70-80% ... that remaining 20-30% though is my pasture-raised meats, eggs, bee products, occasional fish, etc. I'm not imbecilic enough to be a doctrinal vegan or vegetarian. Flesh, yes COOKED flesh, is a very important link in the human diet ... Some people will thrive on a high cooked or even a high meat diet, for a whole variety of reasons ... Its called biochemical individuality folks ... Contrary to what you've been told, we are not all the same.
I realized there were some gaping holes in the broad category of raw veganism after recognizing that in fact: enzymes are not living in a meaningful sense; that if living food is vital-raw vegans would greater emphasize fermented foods; humans are adapted to eat animals; that climate differences necessitate differing diets. There are many more reasons to list. I am skeptical and therefor think some people may in fact thrive on that diet but I tend to feel unenergized and continuously hungry.
Some might think this video is harsh or unnecessary, however when I first became excited about health I first discovered raw veganism/fruitarianism and didn't realize there were alternatives. It seemed to make a lot of sense then. Some people think it's the right choice for everyone and shame others who don't follow it. I don't like those people. Thanks for providing another perspective. I don't think my diet must be right for others.
@patryksky is that true? Which video of his does he say that? I love DTM, but do disagree with his strict vegan approach. However, he does legit help alot of people, the raw green juices can be a game changer, pending on what your condition is.
I'm really happy you made this, despite the whole "shit people say" trend getting way out of control. I honestly love you for making this though. It's like my thoughts exactly on the whole fruitarian wave being such bullshit. The worst part about it is whenever people find out about how i eat healthy, they assume i'm a vegan or fruitarian. How wrong they are. One of the funniest lines "If you're not getting up at night to take a piss, ur dehyrated", also sad cause the fool ACTUALLY said that.
Hilarious!!
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is that banana rotten? lol
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@cdm0014 Pretty much so, lol!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 week ago
It's vegetarian that offends me, that's why I'm a fruitarian. Go go go pleasurable meaning to life!!! I love to say this: love the animals, hug the pigs!
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@foolsrushin87 "...The Glucose/Fructose/Sucrose is not only for the cells..."
There are dozens of scientific studies showing the dangers of sugar consumption, especially fructose. Nobody should have to explain those to you - do the research. See what Lustig says - he's a bit extreme sometimes, but the science is sound.
Those sugars also feed cancer and other unhealthy things too, you know... As well as shooting my blood glucose to the moon...
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@foolsrushin87 Yes, the pathway is simpler and preferred by our lazy body. This isn't news. However the fact remains and will always remain that one molecule fat can generate much more ATP than glucose.
And no, you don't need to eat a strict carnivorous diet or fast... you simply need to either exercise at lower intensity (which is useless, imho) OR be in ketosis.
Personally, I've been in ketosis now for just over a year, have lost 100lbs, and am loving it.
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@foolsrushin87 "...It seems like you were the lazy one for many years..."
Nope, not lazy. I suffered a spinal injury and spent more than 5 years on my back without the ability to exercise. Unfortunately I didn't monitor my calories properly, and with the depression that can come from that kind of situation, yes I over-ate and gained weight.
I have no issues with letting people know that as I took control of my life and fought back. I'm a success-story, not lazy.
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@foolsrushin87 "...I've read a review by a biochemist on the primal blueprint ..."
Well that's great, one review certainly trumps thousands of success stories, dozens of scientists and several dozen scientific studies...
"...The point is that people gain weight when they mix high carb foods with high fat foods..."
Not necessarily. People become obese when they do not use the calories they consume - regardless of those calories' macronutrient profile.
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foolsrushin87 1 week ago
@foolsrushin87 Depending on your weight even eating 150g of carbs a day will put you into ketosis. You eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs then you're not eating a carnivorous diet. Carnivore = a diet of ONLY meat.
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@SecretsOfLongevity "...Depending on your weight even eating 150g of carbs a day will put you into ketosis. You eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs ..."
Exactly. I'm 6'3" and 224lbs as of this a.m. I have a 50" chest, 16" arms, 27" quads, 19.5" calves and a 35" waist. On a day where I exercise heavy, 150g of carbohydrate won't come close to replenishing skeletal muscle glycogen... let alone kick me out of ketosis.
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@SecretsOfLongevity "...ou eat TONS of green vegetables, avocados, coconuts, small amounts of fruit or other carbs then you're not eating a carnivorous diet..."
I don't know why more people don't understand that.
When I tell people I eat LCHF they picture my dinner as a 20oz porterhouse slathered in bacon... When in reality it's more like a 10-12oz grass-fed steak or 2 chicken breasts with brocolli/asparagas, etc., and 5-6 cups of fresh, organic salad...
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
@foolsrushin87 "...Being in Ketosis means restricting carbohydrates to 30-60g per day..."
Nope. For the average person, eating 20-30g will get them there quickly, yes. But once in ketosis, you can eat more carbohydrate and stay there.
On warm summer days where I'd do serious cycling (3-5hr rides over mountainous terrain) I'd eat 150g of carbohydrate, sometimes more.
But I'm a 6'3" mesomorph. Even lean I'm 220-225lbs...
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
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@foolsrushin87 "...so limiting these to stay in Ketosis would put you into a carnivorous diet..."
Yes, you're missing something.
I eat as much as 8-12 cups of vegetables a day - especially love salads. Non-starchy vegetables are full of nutrients and very low-carb - yet incredibly healthy.
I eat very little fruit, and no starch. I get the vast majority of my carbohydrate from non-starchy veggies, small portions of low-GI fruits and the very rare piece of sprouted-grain bread.
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
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@foolsrushin87 "...Last time I check.. only fruits and veggies contained carbs.. so limiting these to stay in Ketosis would put you into a carnivorous diet. Am I missing something? ..."
This, btw, is a common misconception - that eating low carb means eating huge piles of meat and no veggies...
I eat WAY more veggies than I do meat. 3/4 of my intake is vegetables. I have 4-6 cups salad with all lunches and dinners... I eat way more vegetables than most vegetarians I know...
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
@foolsrushin87 BTW - on a day where I don't exercise (I usually exercise a minimum of 90 minutes a day 5-6 days a week) I will have 30-60g of carbohydrate, yes. But have you ever SEEN how much green leafy vegetables you get for 30g of carb intake?
Most days I eat anywhere from 45-90g, depending on what kind/intensity of exercise. Some days I eat 150-200g if I know I'll actually use that carbohydrate without increasing my blood glucose. (IE: 70-100 mile bike ride that day.)
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
lol your not promoting yourself very well Zak. First you take the piss out of Fruitarians and then you say "I'm not trying to make enemies." Remember many people turn to raw foods and fruitarianism to cure cancer and many other diseases/conditions and many have had huge success. Don't get me wrong I have a sense of humour, but taking the piss out of people who are trying their best to live healthy lives is just wrong. You shouldn't let other peoples diets offend you.
leahcimrac 2 weeks ago 2
@leahcimrac No one's diet offends me, maybe you should examine why this video offends you? I'm taking the piss out of people's attitudes and belief systems, not the diet itself. If you'd follow my work more closely you'd hear me say this repeatedly about high carbohydrate diets, that I completely support anyone following them who is getting positive results. What's ridiculous is when teachers of any one dietary system create a paradigm where no other way of eating is healthy.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 weeks ago 3
@SecretsOfLongevity "...If you'd follow my work more closely you'd hear me say this repeatedly about high carbohydrate diets, that I completely support anyone following them who is getting positive results..."
I *so* agree with this statement. For me, as a formerly-obese diabetic with permanently damaged beta-cell function, I *MUST* eat low-carb if I want to avoid insulin and/or other meds.
And I feel great on it, luckily. Whatever diet you're truly healthy on ... EAT.
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
@LCHFinCanada "...Whatever diet you're truly healthy on ... EAT..."
... now that being said, I must state that if you are on any vegan diet - please ensure you get regular B12 supplementation and get regular labs done to find any other nutrient that might be deficient and supplement it.
Vegetarianism or veganism are absolutely healthier than the Standard American Diet, but veganism especially does require supplementation regardless of what some non-MD's erroneously claim.
LCHFinCanada 1 week ago
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foolsrushin87 1 week ago
- funny, good sense of humor, thanks for the laughs
toddc123 3 weeks ago
Hahahaha :) nice video!
matthewlake182 3 weeks ago
Wow didn't know that about sumo wrestlers. Interesting. I'd tend to assume they ate a liiiittle over 3000 calories though.
DanniSK1234 3 weeks ago
idiot.
caitlinefield 1 month ago
Funny !! :)
01photon 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
like I said, fat molecules take longer to digest, utilize and absorb, and thus effect the amount of acetyl CoA/ATP you have.
They all lose to something called glucose and fructose. Starch, glucose, and fructose are easier to utilize than fat.
Thus when a athlete takes in fat before a race and competes against athletes that eat a diet high in sugar, the athlete that takes in high amounts of fat will lose the race.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 The discussion isn't simply about elite athletes. Looking at the 99.99% of the rest of us, there's no need for that level of physical performance in our everyday lives, is there?
Thus, why eat so many starches, if it's obviously been leading more and more to obesity?
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
CBasie, you're generalizing the human species far too much.
Do humans share the same physiological properties? Usually, sure. But we do not share IDENTICAL physiologies. Not even close. So no, regardless of species, human, lion, dogs, rabbits, etc. we are not physiologically IDENTICAL, as you suggest.
Far from it. To even suggest we are is to be - no offense - quite ignorant of biology.
You should study biological individuality. We have individual metabolisms, nutritional needs, etc.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
but we have the same anatomy of organs and tissues, and in saying that, we have the same physiology . Just some people have more damage to their tissues, more fat cells, and more disease than others, thus effecting metabolism, nutritional needs like you suggest.
you are ignorant
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 I'm sorry, but you're incorrect. It's not just about damage and disease, it's about fundamental individual differences in physiology.
I'm hardly ignorant,thank you. When you've had eight years of education and 20 years working in medical research, you can tell me what's-what, ok?
In the meantime, you are simply incorrect and should do some studying.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
what differences are those then? Name one
if you look at a picture of the human anatomy on google, all humans have that same basic structure and layout of the organs. Do they not? So basically, we have the same physiology and functions, anatomy, etc...
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 "what differences are those then? Name one" ... You're kidding, right?
wow, how about blood type, race, height, metabolism, genetic differences, there's literally millions of differences in individuals. We are NOT identical.
Then there's the cultural differences - some cultures are much more active than others, some primitive cultures are still primarily hunter-gather types, some modern cultures use bicycles vs. cars... the list goes on and on.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago 4
@LCHFinCanada
metabolism, race and height: did you know that you can have the same basic anatomy and function, but a different metabolism race or height?
genetics: hey most peoples anatomy is the same despite the minority of people that may have certain growths and tumors at birth.
blood type: ahhh, but cats have different blood types too, but you don't say that they should be fed different diets based on their blood type right? All cats eat meat and have to eat meat.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
As I said, YES we have the same BASIC anatomy and physiology, but with various differences that ensure no ONE diet is right for everybody. I'm not sure why you can't understand that.
Genetics isn't just about growths and tumors. Metabolism alone will mean different diets are needed for different people. Factor that in with genetics, lifestyle, etc., and it becomes OBVIOUS to anyone intelligent that we all have different dietetic/nutritional needs.
LCHFinCanada 4 weeks ago
@LCHFinCanada
the only thing then, is that fat molecules take longer to digest :)
CBasie2856 1 month ago
Glycemic-rating notwithstanding, all carbohydrate will increase the blood glucose of anybody with metabolic syndrome or diabetes... not a good thing to recommend massive amounts of starch to anyone in that situation.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
from durian ryders skanks page, her top comment of the day for u folks '' oh our that cunt who has made another station in hopes of finally getting the attention that bulimia didnt provide or was i daddy, then bannamia were u gorge on bannans like there uncle didles cocks that gave u the bulimia in the first place, now your finally able to be a cock tease without being fat or puking, how proud u must be but why sell a diet that makes incapable of childbirth?''
sprookafook 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
"The effects of pre-exercise starch ingestion on endurance performance."
Those subjects ingesting glucose (as opposed to starches) had highest levels of circulating glucose as well as the highest work output while cycling. However, total carbohydrate oxidation rates were no different than those who took waxy or resistant starches.
The fuel is the same, but pure glucose provides a slightly higher work output than starches when ingested prior to competition/endurance training.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
true. That's why durianrider is able to function off of dates for his main glucose/fructose source during any race he does. Fruit, according to him, is better than white rice and starches.
durianrider only eats dates during races. Dates are a dried fruit, better digested than starch, but slow releasing of concentrated energy.
Don't let me get into vegetables... we all know that if we just lived on vegetables, our bodies would shrivel up and eventually die :)
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 what's your issue with vegetables?? There are NO nutrients in fruit you cannot also get with vegetables... And those come without the extra calories or glucose spike that affect many people who have metabolic syndrome or diabetes.
Unless you're actually exceptionally active, ingesting your carbohydrates from fruits instead of vegetables will eventually lead to metabolic issues. This is medically factual.
I hope you're not buying the 'fruitarian' being healthy myth.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
Nothing. Its just that vegetables shouldn't be a staple. Fruits, or starch should be the staple. Add a lot of vegetables, and maybe a tiny piece of meat once every two days and you got yourself a nice diet.
There are a few examples of healthy fruitarians. While some of them are unhealthy, not all of them are unhealthy.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Unfortunately a blanket statement like that doesn't work for the entire world. Biological Individuality and all...
For example, I'm a severe diabetic. My staple (unless I want to be on multiple medications and insulin) is healthy fats. My secondary macronutrient is protein, and I keep my own carbohydrate intake severely restricted.
That's the diet that works for me, but would be restrictive and unnecessary for another.
We're all different. No ONE diet is best.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
you don't have to rely on potatoes(which are high glycemic) or fruit(low to moderate glycemic) to be your staple. I don't recommend potatoes anyway.
Most countries don't eat potatoes like that anyway, unless they are on a very low fat diet.
I recommend you eating a lot of starch- other starches like white rice, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, maize, cassava.
Eat a lot of leafy greens/vegetables. Eat 3 fruits a day. Eat tiny piece of meat once a day.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 and many, many medical and nutritional experts would disagree on fruits or starches being the staple.
Any obesity expert or anyone with a physiological understanding of fructose metabolism would certainly disagree that fruits should be a staple.
I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas, but they're not scientifically or medically sound. If you think they are, I'd love to see your studies showing so.
No offense, just stating the facts.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
while most of the world doesn't live on fruit, they live on starches.
there are many kinds of starches. not all are good for you
pasta and breads are actually not good 4 you. Grains are not that great for you either, except white rice which is the only one that is good for you.
Instead, rely on tubers, green beans, maize. Not high glycemic tubers, but low glycemic.
Best starches are actually of maize, white rice, taro, cassava, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, squash
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada and that was really bad grammar, sorry. Typed too fast. Please ignore the grammatical errors - regardless of them the science is sound.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
Hahahahahaha...I eat mostly plants and I find this video hilarious. I personally don't care what anyone eats, but when people start claiming their diet is the only way...that gets on my nerves even if I agree with their dietary approach.
brandonx19 1 month ago
Why did you merge Fruitarians and Vegans?
RunandGunPictures 1 month ago
This is great.
healthfreak18 1 month ago
haha! 0:18 is the best the snake oil salesman!
TheStomperReedFeed 1 month ago
This is awesome and so true! Great work! :-)
not801010 1 month ago
@not801010 Lol, thanks :)
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
ahhahhaaa nice way to shake up the dogma!!!!!!!!!! Great imitations!
Myflesh101 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@antioxidants87 All medical textbooks in the world state that fatty acids are the preferred fuel for the heart and skeletal muscle as well as many organs. The organs that don't run well on fatty acids run on ketones with an improved performance over glucose. I quote sources for those statements in the last third of this video here. Also watch the other videos in the series as you are sorely mistaken on a number of points: /watch?v=IRwOi2WKfyA
For further discussion please post a video response.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@Secretsoflongevity
Glucose is the preferred source of ATP though, because glucose automatically goes through the glycolysis and citric acid cycle processes, while fat must first be broken down into glycerol and fatty acids before it can start the glycolysis and citric acid cycle processes. Amino acids must first be converted to keto acid and ammonia before it can be converted to pyruvic acid and start the citric acid cycle.
Glucose can be converted into fat by lipogenesis.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 If glucose is so great, why are you eating so much fructose?
Lakkhesis1976 1 month ago
@Lakkhesis1976
fructose gives me more energy than glucose. I thrive on fruit.
The two are not the same. Vegetables give you less energy, while fruits will give you lots of energy.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Yes, I know they're different. Which is why I was wondering why glucose being the preferred source of ATP was your reasoning behind eating so much fructose.
Lakkhesis1976 1 month ago
@Lakkhesis1976
According to my textbook, fructose is converted to glucose by the liver.
but I don't know if that is really true though. Fructose is already a monosaccaride(simple sugar) so why would you convert it to glucose?
Fructose has the same molecular formula as glucose anyways, so.................
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Well, it IS true, but that conversion is complicated and requires a high level of specific micronutrients to be effective. One of the many reasons why fructose is problematic.
Lakkhesis1976 1 month ago
@Lakkhesis1976 Just a point - although glucose is the PREFERRED source for ATP - this only means the body uses circulating glucose FIRST, unless the body is in a ketogenic state, then it uses fat.
Fat is also a more efficient source of ATP than glucose - unless working at a nearly anaerobic threshold. (The most elite of athletes will need glucose (from carbohydrate) for fuel - the rest of us, not so much.)
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
not fat actually. But starch is more efficient.
If you use starch, your using a way more efficient energy source than fat. Sugars are digested and converted quicker than fats.
Starch is a slow carbohydrate burning food. It can last you the whole day, while it would take something like eating pounds of dates like Durianrider does to actually allow a fruitarian to win against someone who eats a bunch of starch.
Its what the best athletes use - starch.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 total fucking nonsense, total fucking nonsense.
sprookafook 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 also of note - starches, even whole-grain breads, start to become glucose in the saliva. Before you've even swallowed...
Unless you're swallowing things un-cooked and un-chewed, it's quickly absorbed and becomes glucose. If you swallow something that's not even chewed though, it will mostly be fiber and un-usable to you as fuel.
Potatoes, Pasta, etc. all spike glucose faster than all get-out.
You know what actually slows their digestion? Including FAT with them.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
those starches are shit and unhealthy. Wheat, pasta, rye, chips, bagels, fries nowadays are loaded with chemicals.
Potatoes in moderation, and choose red or gold potatoes over white potatoes. Healthy, gluten free and low glycemic starches are white rice, squash, maize, organic white rice pasta, sweet potatoes, green beans, taro, lentils, pumpkin, cassava, taro, carrots, wheat-free spelt bread, kamut bread, quinua.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 The problem is the type and amount of starches you're recommending is unhealthy for the vast majority of westerners, whether in the Americas or Europe.
Those civilizations living (or who lived) on primarily starches are MUCH less-sedentary and eat much less (total caloric intake) than the people reading youtube comments.
As such, starches as a staple don't work for modern western civilization and is contributing to obesity.
That's the simple truth of the matter.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
that's the key of any healthy diet. To eat less and get all the required vitamins and nutrients.
white breads, bagels, pasta, chips, rice pudding ARE the contributors to obesity
but I doubt plant foods such as cassava, green beans, white rice, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, yams, maize would contribute to obesity.
Most of the cultures in Asia eat these foods, and yet still are trim and healthy.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Well, as mentioned, MOST of the cultures in Asia eating these foods eat FAR fewer calories than the rest of the modern world...
Okinawans, for example, traditionally ate far fewer calories even than the Japanese... and most of their diet (roughly 70%) was the Okinawan Sweet Potato, which is MUCH lower GI than the sweet potatoes/yams being sold to most of us in N.America...
As such it's not even the same food. And asians don't eat much rice, truth be told...
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
the sweet potato in America is MUCH lower in GI than regular potatoes. Relying on these starches then should be enough to keep your glucose stable.
but asian's heavily rely on starches, its true. However, not all of them rely on the same staple. For some, its potatoes, for some its rice, for some its sweet potatoes. In Africa, what is more common is cassava, taro.
Like the N. Indians in North America, typical foods were corn, squash, beans, pumpkin, potatoes.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 "Relying on these starches then should be enough to keep your glucose stable."
Again, that all depends on the individual... remember, we ARE all different. Some people have diabetes - Type I is not something that's usually developed in infancy (It's an autoimmune thing) or youth - and with those starches as a staple, would quickly lead to death.
Not everybody responds to the same diet... For example, I can't eat ANY starches even in very small amounts.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
we are different in the aspect that we all have been bombarded with processed foods, effecting the functioning of organs and glands, each a little bit differently.
but all humans have the same physiology, just as all lions have the same physiology, all dogs, all rabbits, etc...
one day, you might not need to rely on high fat anymore.
one day, you will be able to eat starch again without it effecting your glucose levels.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
Continued...
In India, it is lentils, legumes.
In Incas and Mayans, it was quinua.
In middle east, it is wheat.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 also of note, the reason top endurance athletes fill up on starches isn't because they perform better on it - they don't. It's because it's caloric-density allows them to get enough carbohydrate to fully load their glycogen stores.
That's the only reason. If you tried to fully load glycogen stores with say, leafy-greens, it would take BUCKETS full.
Starchy carbs have no performance benefit over non-starchy, except density allowing more carbs per gram/weight of food.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
starchy carbohydrates are caloric dense AND they help you perform better.
Its a SUGAR, just like glucose, which was initially the bodies preferred source of ATP.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Respectuflly, how do they help you perform BETTER than any other form of carbohydrate? There is no scientific basis for that statement.
If it were true, explain why elite endurance athletes use glucose gels/drinks during races instead of potatoes.
Elite endurance performance is based on the athletes ability to have enough glycogen stores, and their ability to burn both the body's glycogen, available fatty-acids, and supplement during the event with glucose gels/drinks.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@LCHFinCanada
Well actually, you can use regular glucose or fructose, but you have to supply A LOT to you.
Simple carbs are fast releasing sugars, they don't last as long as starches. You have to eat a lot of them to last all day long.
For most athletes, starches such as a few potatos make you full and can 3 hours for a single race.
While eating 3 apples would only last you less than 30 minutes of a race.
Dates, 100 calories each, can last you longer than watery fruit.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@antioxidants87 We have no hard data of atherosclerosis in their population before industrialized foods were introduced into their diet. They did have 0 cases of tooth decay and heart disease anecdotally before processed foods were introduced into their diet. The same thing is true of many indigenous cultures who don't have fruit in their diets.
Humans have always been omnivores, again watch my video series on animal foods to be corrected on your misinformed vegan belief system.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity
Zak I just want to remind you that:
Charles Darwin, who originated the theory of evolution, even suggested that man was a frugivore, and was incapable of competing with the larger beasts.
If you want to hear the exact quotes from Charles Darwin saying that man is a frugivore, I can post them for you.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 ?! That proves nothing, he didn't do research on that topic, he didn't have the evidence of calcium and strontium isotopes of human teeth that clearly show none of our ancestors were ever 100% without meat in their diet. Make a response to the facts I present in this video if you want to engage in this discussion because all of the references are already up for debate: /watch?v=58c1KLFhBaI
As it currently stands humans have eaten a very HIGH meat diet for 2.6 miilion years.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity
but he did originate the theory of evolution, and found several links between the human species and apes.
Omnivore didn't come about as a word until 25-30 years after Darwin wrote the Origin of Species.
Frugivorous was actually a word way before Darwin wrote the Origin of Species. However, frugivore wasn't a word till the 1970's.
These can all be found on the dictionary reference site.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 So?!? Henry ford invented the automobile but that doesn't make him an expert on drag racing. Your arguments follow absolutely no logical train of thought. Whenever the word frugivore came into usage has no bearing on the science of what we know for a fact of what humans have evolved eating. Watch the flippin' video I linked to above and discard the misleading and insane ideas about the human diet!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@antioxidants87 In the wild you can't be picky, no, but it is well documented that all tribal cultures prized larger and older animals which have more fat on them. Moose for instance develop a thick slab of fat on their back that can weigh up to a hundred pounds alone when it's older. Paleo is not survival, it was the thriving diet of our ancestors. If you want to carry on this debate please make a video response as I am not wasting my time make points that you can learn from watching my videos.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
So accurate and hilarious. They care nothing about genetics and the high oxidizers, they just guilt us. An african from the equator needs a different diet than an inuit or irish person. Why is that so hard to understand?
queenbeenightly 1 month ago
Notice how it is only the young and the naive who are gravitating towards these high-strung imbecilic fad diets based on pseudo-science and extremism?. Anyone who has either A) earned an education in the sciences, or B) has actually attained some longevity themselves, can see right through this bollocks. The key to longevity, ***THE*** key is to avoid extremism and fanaticism. No joke, studies on centenarians fail to find ANY common denominators across the board, other than a positive attitude.
fringedlunatic613 1 month ago
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BillionsUponUs 1 month ago
@antioxidants87 All meat contains vitamin C (if the animal you're eating has been getting it in it's diet) until you cook it. Certain organs contain vit. C as well which is how the Inuit didn't get scurvy.
You don't have instincts to kill animals for food because you've grown up shopping at grocery stores and having things ready made and prepared for you. You also don't have the instincts to be able to harvest enough plants and roots etc in the wild to survive. We can handle flesh for much...
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ...longer than just a "bit". Not sure what you're trying to describe there... "Plus we need vegetation to prevent long term constipation unlike omnivores." I've never had constipation problems from eating high amounts of meat, even when I've gone a few days eating ONLY meat. The problem comes in when you eat lean meat and other foods high in protein and not containing enough fat. Also having healthy gut flora and being hydrated affect bowel motility much more than fiber does.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@antioxidants87 How does fructose produce the the previtamin to D3, I'm assuming you mean D2. Do you have any references for that? How does paleo push a body into "survival mode" and what is this "survival mode"?
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
From what I've seen, fruitarians are the nuttiest of all, right along side breatherians. Some of the things they try to claim as facts are hilarious.
checkingavailabilify 1 month ago
what does your intro suggest? Is it a special chant? I recognize the female and mal element in the symbol..
elfe1982 1 month ago
@elfe1982 OM AMA RANI ZIVEN TAYE SOHA is a Tibet Buddhist chant to the deity Buddha Amitayus who grants longevity and eternal life.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Amazing how many people will not catch that, isn't it? My old martial arts teacher was a Vajrayana Buddhist and I learned quite a few things about Tibet Buddhist teaching and ritual from him ... That chant is familiar.
fringedlunatic613 1 month ago
Rawfoodguy99: My back hurts! Durianrider:Eat thirty bananas a day!
Rawfoodguy99:im tired! Durianrider:Eat thirty bananas a day!
Rawfoodguy99:My head hurts! Durianrider:Eat thirty bananas a day!
Rawfoodguy99:My dog barks alot! Durianrider:Eat thirty bananas a day!
RawFoodGuy99 1 month ago 10
@RawFoodGuy99 LOL
patryksky 1 month ago
@RawFoodGuy99 'Are you eating enough fruit? Are you drinking enough water? Are you getting enough sleep? Where's my $3,000 consultation fee?'
Lakkhesis1976 1 month ago
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sleepingwhale 1 month ago
You look real healthy dude... Maybe you should give at 811 a go!!!!!
purdo123 1 month ago
@purdo123 Why would I give at 811 a go?
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
I wish Durianrider could view this. Maybe then he would see how stupid he sounds.
alphacause 1 month ago
Don't worry Zak you are just detoxifying your teeth. Nothing to worry about.
lukechohany 1 month ago
7 minutes of awesomeness, funny stuff
raaaaaarr 1 month ago
Zak, you are a funny guy. I am a fruitarian, but this was pretty funny.
highsugarfruit 1 month ago 2
@highsugarfruit He didn't have to make anything up- I've heard all this verbatim...
Lakkhesis1976 1 month ago
@highsugarfruit I'm glad you're able to laugh! The loss of a sense of humour is the first sign of getting into a state of dietary dogma!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity You are right about that. Too many people take this way too seriously. That's why I don't really watch durianrider's videos anymore. He makes fruitarians look bad with his cocky attitude. Stuff he says like "you cant success on 811 without dates and bananas", "You must piss 3 or more times a night for proper hydration", etc. gets on my nerves.
highsugarfruit 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@highsugarfruit makes me wonder if he's prediabetic already lol....
MastGKlah 1 month ago
@MastGKlah You don't get diabetes from fruit, but yea, I see what you are saying. There is something seriously wrong with durianrider.
highsugarfruit 1 month ago
A YouTube classic for sure! Good job!
MushroomedAnymore 1 month ago
i love you!
razmatazz00001 1 month ago
Wow you're kinda bitter aren't you?
spitfiredd1 1 month ago
@spitfiredd1 Bitter?!? Nah, I just see things clearly as the orthorexics present them.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
I must say that the raw foodists on youtube look a helluva LOT healthier than you..and they don't talk nearly as much shit.
ajkoz9393 1 month ago
@ajkoz9393 Keep feeding into the delusion.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago 7
The negativity doesn't look nice on you...
audreyzoesch 1 month ago
@audreyzoesch Negativity? You mean the shit the fruitarians say?
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
good stuff Zak!
flex4life 1 month ago
Damn, this omnivore cult stuff is just breaking me down.
CBasie2856 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CBasie2856 Where's this omnivore cult?
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
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Everywhere man, just look around.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 That's extremely vague and a baseless claim.Cult definition: 1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
Omnivorism doesn't fit either of those two definitions. If anything I've found those who consume animal foods to be more open and willing to discuss and look at hard evidence. I just got blocked from a...
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ...fruitarian FB page the other day for posting a link to a few studies that happened to be in opposition to the point this person was making. When someone begins censoring the comments on their social media platforms beyond just eliminating the disrespectful trolling behaviour, you have the beginnings of a very unhealthy dogmatic attitude.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Couldn't agree more !!!
fringedlunatic613 1 month ago
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if you look more closely, both fruitarianism and omnivorism are cults.
They both have their own religious beliefs. One of them views you HAVE to have meat or else you will be unhealthy and the other one believes you don't have to have meat to be healthy.
Saying that all fruitarians are weak and emaciated and that you need meat or else you will die is like saying "Omnivorism is the only way to be truly healthy", which is a religious belief in a way.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 It's rare that omnivorous promoting health teacher say that outright, please do show me some examples. Again most people promoting the use of animal foods are saying something along the lines of "we have different requirements, some of us need more animal foods than others".
The vegan approach is more often then not much more vehemently opposed to any form of animal foods and denies any existence of people consuming them and being successful. Censorship is a sign of a cult.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
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dude, I got censored, no actually banished, on the raw paleo forums just by saying that fruitarianism can be healthy.
Lol that is a sign of a cult.
I have been around the health scene long enough and have heard both sides of the story.
I have seen so many comments on YouTube saying fruitarians are weak and unhealthy.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 Well without backing up your claim it's not relevant to the conversation. It's not integrous that they banned you but that alone doesn't mean they're cult-like.
I've seen a lot of comments both ways as well. One very common theme among cults is feeding their members a very low protein and low fat diet which leads to mental malleability. Sound familiar? rickross .c om/reference/general/general431 .h tml
There's multiple things in the LFRV community that are cult-like & exclusionary.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
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Btw, when you speak of fruitarian, are you talking about only 80/10/10'ers or people in general that have a high consumption of fruits and vegetables?
Dan McDonald has been a fruitarian for 10 years and lives off 50% fruit and 50% vegetables, but he isn't 80/10/10 or dogmatic at all. He looks pretty healthy.
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 No DTM certainly isn't dogmatic and I do mostly mean 80/10/10 yeah.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
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a few of the 80/10/10's are healthy, but not all of them. Those that usually include more green vegetables and herbs/salads in their diet usually get more benefits than those that don't.
So you are not against the raw vegan movement in general as long as its not strict high fat or LFRV?
CBasie2856 1 month ago
@CBasie2856 If someone is having success on any diet I'm fine with them eating that way but when they start ignoring the warning signs in their own body as well as recommending the diet as being the one and only way to eat and not being open to even basic discussions on the topic, then do I start calling them out on what they advocate.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
Cute! :-)
RoxannaGarza09 1 month ago
I wish you had said the stuff more funny, I mean the words were kinda funny, but the execution was a little ridiculous in some cuz it took too long to get the joke out. Faster clips would have been funnier
RawVeronica 1 month ago
@RawVeronica In hindsight there are a number of changes I would have made yeah!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@RawVeronica If he only said it like Freddie boy, then it would have been totally awesome!
ChefFrankyG 1 month ago
Also, you notice these fruitarians, they kind of like to live off the grid in a kind of scavenger of fruit, constant survival mode, as if they're rebelling against what their mind and body is really needing. They're the ones who need to wake up and get the download update. ALSO, DurianRider got his balls tied up so he can't have KIDS! At 32 yrs. old. What a joke. Just shows you he's no being his AUTHENTIC HUMAN SELF!
TheChertron 1 month ago
@TheChertron Do a search on "vasectomy testicle shrinkage" and you'll see why I don't recommend that procedure. I wasn't going to go there in this vid though...
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
30BAD diet..haha Durianrider(madman) can say some inspirational things, bud all of his diet material is just misleading and at the end of the day just the worst thing you could do for LONGEVITY. The people that I know around me that have lived the longest(92-105yrsold) have eaten a mediterranean diet.
TheChertron 1 month ago
@TheChertron bingo.
astronautagogo 1 month ago
Freelea's my hero. ... lol.
thelovevitamin 1 month ago
As I've said in former posts here at Longevity Nation, D.R., or whatever his real name is, is a cult leader. Anyone who has properly studied cult-like behavior will tell you that some form of coercive persuasion or mind control is always used to recruit and maintain members by suppressing their ability to reason, think critically, and make choices in their own best interest. As I've watched this madman, this is definitely D.R. & Fruitarianism to a Tee. Steel your minds, kindred :)
fringedlunatic613 1 month ago
flip phone ftw!
MrAria44 1 month ago
@MrAria44 That is my actual phone that I use for everything. *facepalm* lol
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
I'm on my 4th watch, this is epic! hahahahahahah
StarcraftAlphaBeta 1 month ago
@StarcraftAlphaBeta Lol, this is the video I've watched the most of my own ever. Even my own jokes keep making me chuckle :p
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Did you bass the girl with your party decoration hair on Chloe Sevigny? Youtube video: Chloe "Toast"
StarcraftAlphaBeta 1 month ago
@StarcraftAlphaBeta No I was just running around a dollar store trying to find a cheap wig and that was the closest thing I could find, lol!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@StarcraftAlphaBeta Lol wtf! Hahaha, Toe-ast...
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
I personally thrive on a high raw diet, say 70-80% ... that remaining 20-30% though is my pasture-raised meats, eggs, bee products, occasional fish, etc. I'm not imbecilic enough to be a doctrinal vegan or vegetarian. Flesh, yes COOKED flesh, is a very important link in the human diet ... Some people will thrive on a high cooked or even a high meat diet, for a whole variety of reasons ... Its called biochemical individuality folks ... Contrary to what you've been told, we are not all the same.
fringedlunatic613 1 month ago
epic. nice wig
keithlmh 1 month ago
I realized there were some gaping holes in the broad category of raw veganism after recognizing that in fact: enzymes are not living in a meaningful sense; that if living food is vital-raw vegans would greater emphasize fermented foods; humans are adapted to eat animals; that climate differences necessitate differing diets. There are many more reasons to list. I am skeptical and therefor think some people may in fact thrive on that diet but I tend to feel unenergized and continuously hungry.
networkedfreedom 1 month ago
Some might think this video is harsh or unnecessary, however when I first became excited about health I first discovered raw veganism/fruitarianism and didn't realize there were alternatives. It seemed to make a lot of sense then. Some people think it's the right choice for everyone and shame others who don't follow it. I don't like those people. Thanks for providing another perspective. I don't think my diet must be right for others.
networkedfreedom 1 month ago
Liferegenerator once said that if your eating 80/10/10 and your hair is falling out then its just a detox.
patryksky 1 month ago 23
@patryksky I've heard the same thing about TEETH!!!
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago 2
@patryksky is that true? Which video of his does he say that? I love DTM, but do disagree with his strict vegan approach. However, he does legit help alot of people, the raw green juices can be a game changer, pending on what your condition is.
astronautagogo 1 month ago
@astronautagogo I believe so. type in "Why the 80/10/10 diet does not work for everyone"
patryksky 1 month ago
I'm really happy you made this, despite the whole "shit people say" trend getting way out of control. I honestly love you for making this though. It's like my thoughts exactly on the whole fruitarian wave being such bullshit. The worst part about it is whenever people find out about how i eat healthy, they assume i'm a vegan or fruitarian. How wrong they are. One of the funniest lines "If you're not getting up at night to take a piss, ur dehyrated", also sad cause the fool ACTUALLY said that.
MrAria44 1 month ago
I lost it when you said, Who the fuck does this Zak from Secrets of Longevity think he is?!
wonshot4 1 month ago