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  • Thank you very much for posting this video.

    I hate violence and don't want to hurt anyone, but there might come a time when self-defense is necessary. If so, I'll try to use things like this.

  • Pit, wrist, sleep

  • incorrect technique. easy to defend

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  • @FLASH2394

    Please explain.

  • @OmniVoid in this case its as simple as to pull the left hand away from the right hand. the correct technique is if your using your right arm across the neck the put the right hand on ur left bicep then put your left hand behind his head. just youtue "rear naked choke" which is the most effective sleeper hold if you have someones back. brazillian jiu jitsu 101

  • @FLASH2394

    Look it up I shall. Thank you for the info. =)

  • @FLASH2394 Please explain how this is incorrect?

  • @Berus7777 just explained it to someone else. not doing it again. just read previous comments

  • Could be usefull to end a fight without hurting anyone.

  • @espritdautomne

    Very true.

    Although, as a kid, I used to have a lot of pride in my strength and fighting ability, this is perhaps the most realistic (if not extravagant) way in which I could win a fight...

  • i am going to go up to my buddys and say *hay gess what* my buddy-*what?* me-*SLEEPER HOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­* buddy wakes up*whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?­!?!?!!?*

  • Umm..... Im using this shit lol

    

  • imagine a crayzy dad who uses this on a kid to put him in bed then U just feel teleported like first on the floor then suddenly in bed

  • sooo. when you put a video like this on youtube ofc someone is going to do it -.-

  • you look like mike muir

  • Excellent demonstration!

  • @crazyking121

    Making a muscle, flexing

  • Making a muscle, flexing.

  • steve cole austin

  • how long do they get knocked out for?

  • what u mean by makeing a muscle i dont understand. Like make a fist?

  • @crazyking121

    He means to flex your bicep.

  • would this still work when people try 2 turn around while you have the sleeper hold locked in

  • How do you account for Hoshin Budo Ryu? Reference YouTube search "Hoshin Budo Ryu"

  • @HoShinRyuMaster I don't know of any law enforcement agency that advocates any time of defensive tactic that involves any form of activity involving the neck and/or throat area. Would please identify which law enforcement agency includes in their defensive tactics curriculum as taught in their POST academies that teach, endorse or othewise agree with you?

  • @HoShinRyuMaster I don't know of any law enforcement agency that advocates any time of defensive tactic that involves any form of activity involving the neck and/or throat area. Would please identify which law enforcement agency includes in their defensive tactics curriculum as taught in their POST academies that teach, endorse or othewise agree with you?

  • @HoShinRyuMaster "Acording to the law..." Which law EXACTLY and in which state EXACTLY?

  • @HoShinRyuMaster When EXACTLY did you study from the founder of Aikido and where EXACTLY.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster When EXACTLY did you study from the founder of Aikido and where EXACTLY.

  • anyone you calls himself a Grand master needs to br given a wide berth!

  • Thank you someone that knows what thyre talking about.

  • Didn't work, help please.

  • i need to try this on my bully

  • AWESOME!!!! Totally gonna try it!

  • Didn't work, can you help?

  • dude this totally works, my friend just did it!!

  • His voice scares me.

  • tnx man....i was in need of dat

  • i learn something today, dont ever get in a sleeper hold ;D

  • 27 disliked r the sued cops

  • @coldkiller236 why would it be the sued cops, this guy is trying to help haha

  • You're doing it wrong. You don't pull your wrist. With the arm choking, you grab opposite bicep, and with your other forearm, push their neck forward, and keep it in place.

  • omg...haha this guy is so full of shit...it would never do any damage to your throat

  • grandmaster lee LOLOLOLOL you're white

  • @HoshinRyuMaster When EXACTLY and how did earn the title Grand Master? What is the ranking system and it's origins? How many "masters" are ranked beneath you and where are they located? What governing body voted them as master and you as grand master?

  • Thanks, really helpful, blacked out my friend with a little preesure

  • when you old them for between 3-10 seconds how long is the average time they wil be asleep?

  • I like him, but he sound like he been choked by the police once.

  • You were born grand master gary lee?

  • Thanks for the great video

  • No thank u, please make more. ur a intelligent person.

  • Kids "playing" like this a little while ago in Mass., and one of the kids just did not come out of it. He died.

    How bout playing basketball, for pete' sake. This stuff is just plain stupid!

  • @fleecyboy self -defense is stupid?

  • what about size?? I'm small can I easily perform this on bigger persons

  • could u possibly give an average time in minutes from ur experience? also u say not to hold them longer then 30 sec did I hear that right?

  • @HercegodSvetogSave He said 3-10 seconds. Don't go overboard there, mate.

  • A kid tried to do this to me at school, and failed.

  • it is not dangerous to put your shoulder so advanced ? it is not a easier task from the opponent to throw you over his shoulder by lowering his position , pushing you with his hips and bending forward ? I just asking .

  • My friend snuck up behind me, slapped on the sleeper, and started putting me out in about 3 seconds- it was fast. He let go right away and i had time to put my hands up before hitting the floor. It's real and you better know what your doing or someone's going to the poor house. Here that kids and other fools.

  • Master Lee, I performed this maneuver on an someone who broke in to our house. But when he waked up, he said to the doctors that he couldn't breath when I performed it on him. Is it normal or have I messed it up?

  • @rshackerpro1 Thats sick. I would have pooped my pants and cried.

  • how long till they wake up

    

  • Can the target scream? Cause I can't when that was used on me...

  • Is that like a triangle lock? Cause man last time my big fat classmate did that to me (A BULLY) I told him "hey it does't hurt"... 5 seconds later...Im starting too see blackness until my PE teacher stopped him

  • It does not matter the age of you or the other person involved, this is not a toy... This is only meant for self-defence....

  • how long 10 year old be out cuz he iz getting on my nerves. i am also 10

  • thank you very much. this is very informative compared to all the amateur videos online now

  • Easy to understand, wonderful explanation and all in all a very informative video. Thank you.

  • @owenair0 a few seconds to 10 seconds or so.

  • how long are they asleep for?

    

  • Children known to us (very young teenagers from educated, professional families) have found this footage on YouTube and have started to try it out on each other. In the space of a few days there have been very serious incidents, one leading to hospitalisation. It is simply a lucky chance that a death did not occur.

  • theres only carotid artery the other is the jugler vien

  • @iggymydog There are two carotid arteries, one on for each side of the head and neck.

  • @AParanoidDroid oh...srry

  • I am glad you explained that, My cousin is a cop and when I saw him practice I thought " what about the larynx? You look like your choking him?"

    Glad you posted this up thanks for that. It explains alot

  • is it any sleeper hold to knock yourself out?

  • This is Jank! it Dont Work!

  • @laneyboo411 durr durr durrr

  • WOW you have no idea how many fake videos i had to go through to find this , im subscribing !

  • is it not only just to push some where at the shoulder with your fingers?

  • is it not only just to push some where at the shoulder?

  • This move it a final resort move. Do not try it unless you have no other option. If done wrong you can crush the trackier or break the neck. Do not try this unless you know what you are doing.

  • Dumb shit

  • I think what you're over-looking is most police WANT to choke people out, they WANT to hurt people, they Enjoy it

  • lmao ima try this on my brother lmaooo.. soif u hold for more than 30 seconds what happens lol

  • Poor technique in this video.  You shouldn't drop your choking arm way down in front of their body before applying the choke or it will get grabbed. Slide it under the chin instead.

  • That will defiantly help in fights, and when I enlist in the police force. Thank you.

  • great video, but ive heard that the sleeper can be risky even if you do it properly the way you showed, my sensai once said "whats the difference between a sleeper and a killer?.......about 5 seconds"

  • So when you feel the guy you hold just falling away, I usually hold for an extra second and gently put him on the floor, can't kill anyone that way? Right?

  • @Magnum357l Yes this is no ment to kill only control!

  • @HoShinRyuMaster umm how long does the sleeper hold last

  • @Magnum357l Yes, it can kill him. If you hold for too long, you'll cut oxygen and blood going to the brain. Either he dies, goes to coma, or wakes up mentally retarded.

  • @firescope69

    Kinda late answer lol.

    And no, didn't mean late with the 3 months thing.

    But...

    Too late xD

  • @Magnum357l D:, aw shit

  • You seem grumpy. Do you need a hug?

  • Thank you Master!

  • The United States Army manual for Combatives states that 4 or so seconds of actually directly pinching shut the two arteries there will knock them out. It says that anything close to or over 40 seconds would kill the person, so I'd say dont do it for anymore than maybe 15-20 seconds, unless you don't care too much about the possibility of a murder charge.

  • Hey GRANDMASTER, how do you propose I get my armpit over their shoulder without them stopping my hand from going across their neck? They can defend the choke before it is even in place if I put my arm that far over.

    The second problem here is your finishing grip. All the opponent needs to do is grab your hand and your choke is defeated. Do you have any better grips to avoid such a simple choke defense?

  • how long are they out for ?/?

  • @ALEXFISHER95 it depends, it could be like 30 seconds or a couple of minutes

  • how long do they go out for?

  • Does it matter how strong you are cause Im strong but friend is always of guard I get him in a headlock and he escapes just taking away my arm

  • if you're going to teach this stuff - and I don't know what credentials this man has - at least learn to pronounce anatomical landmarks correctly!! It's LAIR - INX - not LAIRN -INX.

  • me and a few friends were bundling one day, and seeing as i have done MMA for 5 years i got one guy who went crazy into a PROPER sleeper hold, and as soon as he passed out (he didnt tap) i let go and he came back after about 5 seconds.

  • Hello HoShinRyuMaster, I was wondering how long is a person knocked out if you apply pressure for the allowed 30 seconds?

  • I would like to see more detail in this video. Like maybe show the hold from the side and back to show in better detail what not to do so you don't hurt yourself or others

  • I have to do this to my wife everytime i want to have sex with her

  • @barcelona187 are you filipino

    ?

  • @barcelona187 I just wait for her to fall asleep :D

  • @barcelona187 um, thats called rape xD

  • Don't hold for more than 30 seconds they will die this is not to be practised on humans but on dummies

  • how long are they put out? and could they die froms this like making someone passout go on youtube and type how to put someone a sleep #2 adn click the video with the guy on the wall and someone pushing up on chest

  • I'm surprised he didn't lock his hand with his other arm and then push the head forward, that provides for extra leverage and the hold works much faster. This is a very dangerous hold!!! If you don't know when to let go the person might not ever wake up!

  • So u can put someone to sleep by holding for 20 seconds and they will still wake up? Won't the person die from no air? Idk I'm just asking

  • @falloutoh10

    if you do it properly by the time the stopwatch hits 20 seconds they're long gone or severely brain damaged, and it's not from air restrain, it's from blood restrain to the brain, you have 2 main arteries on the sides of your neck, the sleeper hold blocks them both not allowing enough blood to go through to your brain to remain concient, hold it for long enough and the person wont be waking up again

  • u are open 2 get thrown,,,if u attempt,,, on an educated individual!!!

  • Good video, very infomative. thank you!

    Lol i take it you are quite angry with police tho!

  • he looks like Grandmaster Stone Cold Steve Austin

  • Hahaaha rofl, doing this crap at school fucks shit up

  • A Man of wisdom and professionalism putting up a proper example about a very dangerous action. Others be aware of this you don't want to impress your friends doing this and go to JAIL for life, simply because you made a

    mistake

  • Wow, cool. This is like the real life version of the "Vulcan Nerve Pinch" from "Star Trek", but only uses one arm and a hand instead of one hand applying a lot of pressure on some particular location of the neck.

    How long does the person be unconscious before fully recovering?

  • how long to they stay asleep for?

  • @MichaelChavez5

    just a few seconds at most, as long as you let go of them as soon as they fall

  • suckmykiss20 is 100% correct.. this guy is a dumb fuck and dusnt know what hes talking about.. you put the hand of the arm thats around the neck on other biecept and put other hand in back of head and push foward no more than 5 secs..

  • @Sn1p3RXxPr0Xx no, grabbing him like that and pushing his head forward is choking him, which is what we are trying to prevent, the video is right.

  • u don't know shit, old fart.. id put you to sleep in 1.7 seconds max

  • @ttdantt10384 I'd put you to sleep in 0.2 seconds max. If you know what I'm talking about. (No not a gun.... Still has to do with martial arts..... Again not a gun....) And yes hes right. He said 3 to 10 seconds. Which is true. I've been donig martial arts for 17 years. And it's physically impossible to KO someone that fast with a sleeper. So you don't know what your talking about dumb fuck.

  • Exactly what part of your right hand is "touching" his carotid artery? Is it one of the joints on your thumb, your wrist, or the fat chunky part between the thumb and wrist?

    Thanks!

  • @fadsfsfasf Actually no part of the hand is touching, that would weaken the hold. I use the bone on the arm just below the wrist, and I press with the palm of the left hand to give the extra pressure needed to complete the hold.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster What about the  full nelson hold?

  • No sir, thank you. 

  • I dunno. I've always thought this was a myth. Years ago, I had my boyfriend do it to me to see if it worked. It didn't I just kept laughing. (Once I could breathe again) Maybe he didn't do it right?

  • pretty bad ass video i could use this to kick peoples asses

  • wow!!!

  • @HoShinRyuMaster ok thank you

  • @HoShinRyuMaster well I know that. You said that in your video but howong eill they be out?

  • @heavymetalisdeadly Differrent people Differrent times. There is no set messurement.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster How long before they wake back up ?

  • @HoShinRyuMaster ok thank you but I just have one final question. How long will they be out?

  • @heavymetalisdeadly That depends on how long you hold the sleeper on them. never go for longer then 30 seconds.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster I dont want to start any drama but it dependes on the strenght of the person becasue if a weak person does it for like 30 seconds u problay wont even fall out but if it's a really strong person and they even do it for like 5-15 seconds theyll wake up but if u do it for 30 seconds with a strong person they will probaly more than likely die.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster I have another question. What if you are doing the sleeper hold and the person your putting out goes forward,wouldn't that damage the throat or larynax? Is this potentionally dangerous even though you didn't cause it?

  • @heavymetalisdeadly When you do the sleeper right they don't get the chance to move forward . Because you drop back on one leg and when they pass out they go limp allowing you to lower them slowly to the floor.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster but won't that effect there neck or something? Maybe there spine? So you use all your bicep muscle and you push as hard as you can with your other arm?

  • @heavymetalisdeadly No it doesn't bother the neck more then making it a little tender. As to the second part yes.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster umm I have a question, when you do the sleeper hold, should you use all your muscle? I mean should you use a lot of pressure or how much should be used?

  • @heavymetalisdeadly Use as much as you can because that makes a person go out faster. You can then loosen your hold once they go out .

  • @MasterExploderXXIV I was and you sound like someone I have put in prison or will end up in one soon.

  • will a vulcan neck pinch work the same way? or is the neck pinch just fake?

  • @MrPennyworth007 Some one as been watching too many Star Trek, there is no race Vulcans, and humans can not do the pinch.

  • @HoShinRyuMaster i was just wondering if it would work or not. god.

  • @MrPennyworth007 It is just that I get a lot of kids who ask that kind of questions!

  • @HoShinRyuMaster well im sorry for my inconvenience

  • thanks alot but do u know how to do the sleeper hold with one hand

  • @gadour1000 Yes I do know how to do it with one hand. How ever i will not teach it to just anyone.

  • @gadour1000 pause aT 1:31...thats pretty much what you do

  • i have a question with the other palm what do I do? Do I just pull the sleeper arm more?

  • @2497iscool No never pull that is a choke not a sleeper. Squeeze the neck not pull.

  • if u do that its really easy to get out of the hold. all u have to is pull the hand down

  • oh,look it's bob the Body Oponant Bag :D

  • Master what do u do after u have performed the sleep holder to wake the sleeping person to not harm them?

  • how hard shall you make a pressure on?

  • will this still work if i my arms are a bit slender? :P

  • How long will they be out for?

  • this is 100% correct and proper...FINALLY!!!

  • thank you master

  • I'm going to do it to my teacher if she pisses me off.....

  • @taigokai LOL

  • @HoShinRyuMaster

    Heyy!Maybe youuh knoww my Uncle!He's also a GrandMaster!His name is Greg Jones;my cousins are Marc and Chris.All three of them were inducted into the Martial Arts Hall of Fame(:Good video!I want to try it on some cops alright...*cough cough*The child molester cop that used to live DOWN THE STREET FROM

    MY HOUSE!*cough*byee(:(:

  • thank you for your words.

    *bow*

    P.S.

    you sound kinda angry in this...

  • @DragnSly

    Return the bow, I sound angry because I dislike bad teaching and people showing techniques that can really do bad damage. They don’t take the art as real and think it all has to be physical.

  • are you mad?

  • no thank-YOU

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  • IS THAT POSIBLE MASTER/??????

  • How long does it put them to sleep?

  • @Zirka4life forever