In my school we learn Koine Greek but we pronunciate "theta" as greek letters "TX" not like english "th". Also we pronunciate "eta" like english "A" not "E".
@Pavelic96 academically it is thought that in the older dialect Attic Greek they use to pronounce theta by pronouncing the "T" and "H" separately but eventually evolved into "TH" in classical times. However, certainly the Koine dialect theta was pronounced as "TH" as in THink. As for ETA, in Attic Greek they think it was pronounced as "A" as in Ate or EIght but in Koine and certainly when the New Testament was written it evolved into "EE" as in mEEt.
@Pavelic96 I wouldn't worry about it. There's sticklers who get fully beefed up about whether somethings right or not. Just remember that the language spans 1000s of years, had several pronounciations and regional accents made the language entirely different. Read a few things about pronouncitian and use what's comfortable. :D
good pronunciation...one thing though, Υυ is pronounced as "ee". Wished all the academics would pronounce as you do..sounds better than the artificial pronunciation of Erasmus
@kori4580 Thank you for the feedback. I realise the yu/ee thing, but I figured that the Greek speakers of the First Centry would probably have pronounced it differently.Otherwise HMIN and YMIN would never have been distinguishable, and there's lots of Jesus' speeches where he uses both without a context and it would have been hard to distinguish these words without a pronounciation difference.
@griffbp although what you say is possible, it doesn't rule out that Yu was pronounced as "ee". You dont need to distinguish to words with different sounds. For example, in English you have "there" and "their, and "they're" yet we can differentiate the meaning by context. The academic pronunciation of Attic Greek is theoretical, but we do know the Lord's Prayer was pronounced with the same phonetics of Modern Greek since the dialect is Koine Greek.
Thank you! I wrote this prayer in my notebook in high school, but never completely learned it. I am 63 now and retired. I am determined to learn it completely this year. Thank you again, best wishes and blessings.
@DavidEberhardt That sounds like a really good plan for the year and easily achievable. I hope that my video gives you an audio dynamic to your memorisation and makes it easier. Blessings.
Your pronunciation is typical Koine. Have you heard of this pronunciation modified specifically for the Koine spoken in Judea and Galilaea in the 1st century AD? Go to Wikipedia and look up "Koine Greek" and scroll down to New Testament Greek Phonology.
@MrMucas Thanks. I have indeed. I feel comfortable with my pronunciation now and the accent has kind of stuck and creeps back in if I try anything differently now. It's good to know that scholarship knows what it sounded like in some areas of Judea and Galilee, but I'm very aware that there were regional variations at the time, second-language speakers would have had different accents to the Hellenic people there and we know the disciples had odd accents, albeit maybe in Hebrew/Aramaic. Thanks.
Excellent work--you have achieved a very nice accent and rhythm. Whose pronunciation system are you using?
egwpisteuw 4 months ago
Thank you, I like it so much that I've down loaded it to my mp3 player. just wish you would have added the last verse.
MathewsBowHunter2000 4 months ago
You sound great, Buddy.
speedstick77 5 months ago
@speedstick77 Thank you very much.
griffbp 4 months ago
In my school we learn Koine Greek but we pronunciate "theta" as greek letters "TX" not like english "th". Also we pronunciate "eta" like english "A" not "E".
Do we learn wrong or?
Pavelic96 7 months ago
@Pavelic96 academically it is thought that in the older dialect Attic Greek they use to pronounce theta by pronouncing the "T" and "H" separately but eventually evolved into "TH" in classical times. However, certainly the Koine dialect theta was pronounced as "TH" as in THink. As for ETA, in Attic Greek they think it was pronounced as "A" as in Ate or EIght but in Koine and certainly when the New Testament was written it evolved into "EE" as in mEEt.
kori4580 7 months ago
@Pavelic96 I wouldn't worry about it. There's sticklers who get fully beefed up about whether somethings right or not. Just remember that the language spans 1000s of years, had several pronounciations and regional accents made the language entirely different. Read a few things about pronouncitian and use what's comfortable. :D
griffbp 4 months ago
good pronunciation...one thing though, Υυ is pronounced as "ee". Wished all the academics would pronounce as you do..sounds better than the artificial pronunciation of Erasmus
kori4580 7 months ago
@kori4580 Thank you for the feedback. I realise the yu/ee thing, but I figured that the Greek speakers of the First Centry would probably have pronounced it differently.Otherwise HMIN and YMIN would never have been distinguishable, and there's lots of Jesus' speeches where he uses both without a context and it would have been hard to distinguish these words without a pronounciation difference.
griffbp 4 months ago
@griffbp although what you say is possible, it doesn't rule out that Yu was pronounced as "ee". You dont need to distinguish to words with different sounds. For example, in English you have "there" and "their, and "they're" yet we can differentiate the meaning by context. The academic pronunciation of Attic Greek is theoretical, but we do know the Lord's Prayer was pronounced with the same phonetics of Modern Greek since the dialect is Koine Greek.
kori4580 4 months ago
goood... not too many mistakes..!
faraget 8 months ago
@faraget Feel free to make one yourself without these 'few' mistakes :D
griffbp 4 months ago
Thank you! I wrote this prayer in my notebook in high school, but never completely learned it. I am 63 now and retired. I am determined to learn it completely this year. Thank you again, best wishes and blessings.
DavidEberhardt 11 months ago
@DavidEberhardt That sounds like a really good plan for the year and easily achievable. I hope that my video gives you an audio dynamic to your memorisation and makes it easier. Blessings.
griffbp 11 months ago
@DavidEberhardt You are very welcome.
griffbp 4 months ago
Your pronunciation is typical Koine. Have you heard of this pronunciation modified specifically for the Koine spoken in Judea and Galilaea in the 1st century AD? Go to Wikipedia and look up "Koine Greek" and scroll down to New Testament Greek Phonology.
MrMucas 11 months ago
@MrMucas Thanks. I have indeed. I feel comfortable with my pronunciation now and the accent has kind of stuck and creeps back in if I try anything differently now. It's good to know that scholarship knows what it sounded like in some areas of Judea and Galilee, but I'm very aware that there were regional variations at the time, second-language speakers would have had different accents to the Hellenic people there and we know the disciples had odd accents, albeit maybe in Hebrew/Aramaic. Thanks.
griffbp 11 months ago