Khmers are master in Music, Art of fighting, Sak Yernt, Apsara dancing, rock builder, art carving, relationship with Gods, water irregation, many styles of architecture, from wood, rock, brick, sand stone. Styles of present daly dacing: Romvong, Rom Kbach, Saravan, Kantreum, Temples styles everywhere in the Country. It was older than Thai grand palace. What you talking about Mr DangerMines.
I used to learn Wing Chhun and Pak Mei (white Tiger) 4years, but Bokator is very unique forms, the movements are different. I feel that I want to learn Bokator. Muay Thai is just a sport. It is not far away from Bokator. The some movements are very similarities to Bokator. Wing Chhun has elbows too but no high knee. However the movements are very different.
@ichibang15549 I dont love baseball footballl....i love martial art and fighting sport and i practice fighting sport. i question how you can even understand muay when you havent studied it. i have studied muay in lao, cambodia, malaysia and all over thailand.
@ichibang15549 You dont study muay Thai? You are so pathetic. I know that ignorant people often hate. Thai people do not hate me because of bokator. we have been through this many times. I have tons of friends in thailand. i train at a number of gyms in thailand. i have done TV in thailand, magazines, books, people do not hate me in thailand. YOU hate me, but you are one person who doesnt even love Muay Thai enough to learn it.
Because cambodian hate thailand they Spread Rumors about thai stole their martial art if anyone want to belive them that fine but if anyone want to know the Truth u can search in youtube between our art before develop to sport martial art search " Oldest Thai Boxing footage ever from 1920's " and " Bokator/Pradal Serey, Angkor Wat Cambodia 1930s "
Ah, arent ancient martial arts amazing, there is so much history and philosophy in them that is very intresting, i dont know why people are still saying that one is better than the other, again like you videos (more of a souther shaolin practicioner) but nevertheless amazing art.
@brooklynmonk1 if you said bokator copy from muay thai maybe is good that you know it , but please stop and take 1 minute for thinking , if all your comment are true ? are you sure ? is true please show all thing that can tell us , you are the one really love muay thai , but is not true please correct your words by saying SORRY in your heart for us , I'm Cambodia man i love Bokator but i never said something bad form Thai , cause i know thai also love their muay tahi too
@chan44555 I really can't follow what you said because your grammar is so wrong. but if you are accusing me of saying that bokator copied muay Thai, i never said that. In fact i am easily the number one proponent of bokator online and in the world and you are a complete idiot for insulting me. why don't you get off the couch and do something to support bokator or to promote but don't screw with me.
@samuraipsycho Actually Bokator predates Muay Thai by about 300 years. also, Bolkator has thousands of techniques, including ground fighting, which Muay Thai doesn't. So, it can't really be called a copy. If you are interested in Bokator and Muay Thai, I have published numerous articles comparing the two. you could find them with a quick google search.
@samuraipsycho According to your activity history on youtube, you spent the better part of Saturday writing negative comments on Bokator videos, in favor of muay Thai. But you don't have any Muay Thai videos on your channel. If you love Muay Thai, why aren't you training and fighting? If you want to promote Muay Thai, why don't you publish videos about Muay Thai? Apparently, you don't love Muay Thai even to practice it, research its history, or promote it on the web.
1. khmer are not indiginous people of SEA. they migrated into SEA
2. ALL khmer culture is based on Indian culture
3. khmers stole mon land Dvaravati (of what would be present day Thailand)
4. Thailand is situated between Cambodia and Burma. Burma also has lethwei which is pretty identicle to khun khmer (proper name for it. NOT bokator) so who influenced who and stole what?
5. Thai style does not include animal forms but lethwei does. Go figure.
Sup Antonio If u have a chance pleace send this message to Grand Master San Kim Sean
The way he tought bokator is great but i think is a little weak n he should teach the dangerous/deadly technique so we won't stay below anybody when it come to the mix martial art. thanks u man
@DangersMines no the western word box is much older than the western worlds involvement in cambodia. the word comes from europe. Bok does mean fight in Khmer, but it is probably a coincidence. and the word bok is not carved on stone, only images of men fighting.
@DangersMines actually we do have proof. that is what i said in teh previous email, the first use of the word box or boxing was in a newspaper in 1670 in england. since the word is not written on the walls at angkor then you dont actually have proof that you invented the word.
@brooklynmonk1 also, as i pointed out in the email, which you obviously cant read, there are boxing pictures in the west dating back to the greeks empires which are 3,000 years old and to the romans which are more than 2,000 years old, more than a thousand years before angkor.
@brooklynmonk1 from wikipedia: Fist fighting depicted in Sumerian relief carvings from the 3rd millennium BC, and an ancient Egyptian relief from the 2nd millennium BC, a Mesopotamian stone tablet in Baghdad, Iraq believed to be 7,000 years old.
@DangersMines yes but that doesnt in any way prove that the western word boxing came from the khmer word bok. in fact it almost proves that the two sports arent even related. and we know that it is an established fact that the french brought th ring and boxing goloves to cambodia.
The West like American steals Khmer creation and give it to Thai because the current Thai King Bhumibol is American. Look at American Google map for example, the whole world know that Preah Vihear Temple is belonged to Khmer, but Google map showing most of Khmer Preah Vihear Temple in Thailand.
1670 is not old enough to prove. The Khmer word BOK of BOKATOR came from the stone wall of Khmer temple over 1000 years that prove Khmer created the word BOK before the western.
@DangersMines no actually there are no wors on those carving. we established this like five comments ago. there are no words on those carvings. so the origin of the word bok can't be proved but even if it could, it doesnt prove teh western word came fromcambodia
@DangersMines no actually there are no wors on those carving. we established this like five comments ago. there are no words on those carvings. so the origin of the word bok can't be proved but even if it could, it doesnt prove teh western word came fromcambodia
@DangersMines once again, we have paintings and carvings dating back thousands of years, well before angkor. and we have writing dating back 300 years. the word bok is not carved on the walls at angkor. have you ever read a book of khmer history? have you ever studied angkor wat? you dont seem to know much about anything. are you khmer or viet?
@brooklynmonk1 ignore him man, no point talking to a retard. anyways.. can u give me the direction to the boaktor school in phnom penh? i am hoping to visit srok khmer this summer and try to learn as much as i can. i tryed asking my cosin but they dont seem to know. i want to plan ahead so that i dont waste anytime looking for it. thank you.
I don't see any carving on western, I only see painting. The Khmer man BOK A TOR carving on the stone wall and that BOK word came from there. Who I am is none of your business.
@DangersMines there are tons of carvings in europe dating back more than 3,000 years. the fact that you havent seen them is most likely because you are uneducated and dont read or study. there are much older carvings depicting boxing which go back 8000 years in the arab world.
@DangersMines what??? learn to speak english....u dont even know shit about khmer, so just shut the fuck up and quit trying to be a retard. go learn some history and ten talk shit.
@sonohkong Sure I knew about Khmer and that's a retard like you can't correct the Google Map but to BITCH and BARK dumbshit. Go showing your dumbshit afraid of the western stealing Khmer creation and gave to other.
@DangersMines just shut up dude. you're just making khmer people look dumb. bok and box sound completly different and also have different meanings.why are u going around talking about other countries stealing stuff? stop living in the past, our country sucks right now. it great in angkor time but now it sucks. so stop thinking that khmer is better than other countries.
@sonohkon what about shut the F*** yourself. People like you never correct the western and that's why the west like Google Map showing Cambodia Preah Vihear Temple mostly on the Thailand side. You are the one suck not me, not my Khmer people and my Cambodia.
@DangersMines i have suggested at least ten or twelve times during this long exchange that you go read a book on khmer history and one on boxing history but you seem to have no education at all. what is that like? it must be very frustrating. you're angry and want to change your life but can't. you will be poor the rest of your life and never get the respect you crave. how horrible to be you.
@DangersMines actually you have clearly read absolutely nothing. you dont seem to know even very basic history and your english is terrible. but what the west did for the temple was, UN designated that the temple officially belongs to cambodia. that was in the news, surprised you missed it. the reason google map shows it on the thai side of the border is because the temple hasnt moved, only the official ownership was given to cambodia.
The temple can't move, but the satellite can move anytime. The west like American Google Map tried to steal Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to the Thai King American born. Not only Cambodia Preah Vihear that
American tried to gave to Thailand even Muay Thai that no one heard about Muay Siam before that American promoted Muay Thai for Thailand during Cambodia
was busy at war. So dont you tell me that you are so sure about the word BOK!!!
@DangersMines But this issue has already been settled by UNESCO, once again you should read some times. UNESCo is under the UN which was founded by the US and where US has about 75% of the total influence. the US never tried to steal your temple. as for muay thai, we have newsreel footage of muay thai dating back to the 1920s. it has existed for at least 500 years of documented history but we have video that is nearly a hundred years old.
The temple can't move, but the satellite can move anytime. The west like American Google Map tried to steal Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to the Thai King American born. Not only Cambodia Preah Vihear that
American tried to gave to Thailand even Muay Thai that no one heard about Muay Siam before that American promoted Muay Thai for Thailand during Cambodia
was busy at war. So dont you tell me that you are sure about the word BOK!!!
@DangersMines if you want to talkabout viet IQ vietnam is the fastest growing economy in the world and has one of the highest levels of overall education in southeast asia. cambodia still has about 50% illiteracy.
I talked only the Viet stealing Khmer pride like Angkor Wat, Khmer writing and Khmer Prahok and claimed as Viet product as the world can see the video on my channel.
@DangersMines you said viet IQ. iIQ means intelligence quotient and is thought to b a measure of the capacity of an individual to learn. in this department, countries with higher levels of education and literacy, such as Thailand and Vietnam, would generally rank higher.
Your IQ is lower than Viet thieves and Thai thieves because I hit the nail right in your face with that video on my channel as proof to prove you read nothing and learn nothing about the truth.
@DangersMines sorry i missed this one. actually my IQ is well over 120 but the average in both thailand and cambodia is well under 100, in fact in cambodia it is in the 80s which would be like special ed level in US. this is a fact, not an opinion, look it up. if you have trouble with the big words in the articles, let me know and i will help you.
The west like the French stealing the Khmer BOK and gave to Greek and Roman. The west like the US Google Map stealing Khmer Preah Vihear and gave to Thailand and a west like you see Viet and Thai stealing Khmer national pride Angkor Wat, Khmer writing and Khmer Prahok to export their product and you claimed Viet and Thai are better than Khmer (sic) !!!
@DangersMines the romans and greeks predate the frenc by almost a full milenium, so your comment makes no sense. the west, the UN, gave preah vihear to cambodia, so that is the opposite of taking it away. no one took angkor wat or khmer writing from you and as for muay thai cambodia has made ZERO effort to export bradal serey. but i would support it if they did.
The video on my channel Thai are thieves and steal Khmer pride and claimed product in Thailand, only a moron you can't see it wrong. Cambodia is coming back and that's a reason why Thai thieves go stealing Cambodia Preah Vihear again because Thai thieves are so jealous of Cambodia.
The west boxing became the Olympic game after the French went to Cambodia, the French claimed the origin of Greek but as I said there is no proof of Greek boxing carving but only Greek painting. Go reading before claiming the UN giving Preah Vihear to Cambodia. Cambodia took Thailand to the world court and Thailand lost its thief face against Cambodia at the ICJ in Netherlands.
@DangersMines actually boxing was in the first olympics which is three thousand years ago. the first use of teh word boxing in a western newspaper was in 175o, a hundred years before france went to cambodia. and the ICJ is in the west. and it was the west who helped cambodia win the case and put an end to the dispute. netherlands is in the west.
The ICJ judges are not only the West, there are Chinese and Japanese judges!!!
Not the ancient Greek Olympic game!! The one world Olympic game founded by the French Pierre de Coubertin in 1894 and that after the French went to Cambodia and founded out all Khmer civilization included the Khmer BOKATOR.
@DangersMines no, the first modern olympics was held in 1894 but the first olympics was in 776 BC . london prize fighting boxing rules come from england, not france, modern boxing comes from england and the first written report of boxing in england was in the 12th and 13th century with an organized sport in 1750s. this is easily the tenth time i have told you this.
The Ancient Greek Olympic game in 776 BC wasn't founded by the French Pierre de Coubertin. The world Olympic game started in 1894 after the French went to Cambodia and they founded Khmer BOKATOR and they credit to Greek instead of giving credit to Khmer just like Google Map stealing Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to Thailand.
@DangersMines yes you are correct the ancient greek olympics were not founded by the french. no one has made that claim. you seem to be the only person on the planet who questions the history of greece and rome. i wish i was half as smart as you think you are. before you further embarrass your self and your country, PLEAE get an education, a real education, based on study and experience, rather than base don anger and emotion.
You got always wrong that I have to correct you all the time from ancient Greek Olympic game to the world Olympic game founded by the French, from the ICJ WEST!!! Helping Cambodia to the ICJ Chinese and Japanese judges!!!
The west like Google Map giving Cambodia Preah Vihear to Thailand and you know what else do I have in mind about American? Since Thailand has a Thai-American King, why there is Gulf of Thailand instead of Gulf of Indochina???
@DangersMines I just found a video clip of a Muay Thai match in Thailand in the 1920s. do you have a film clip of a bradal serey fight that predates this one/
I just saved a video of Khmer BOKATOR that carved on Khmer temple on my favorite.
Khmer BOKATOR is the father of all Khmer martial arts included Pradal Serey, Kun Khmer Boran etc...
Khmer BOKATOR has been existed since the Khmer birth at the 1st century or may be before that. So do the match, 1st century and 1920s which one is the oldest? I'm sure there is Pradal Serey before Muay Thai video somewhere on YouTube got to search it.
@DangersMines U bitch , Big liar. Ur stupid Bokator filmed in 1930 while Thailand filmed in 1920 ! Look at those videos. Khmer still practicing on the ground while Thailand has a formation, more formal, with tradition and fighting on the stage! Don't tell us a big lie. U Bitch.
What are you talking about Thai thief ASSHOLE? Our Khmer Bokator carving on the stone wall on Khmer temples since you thief haven't born. You Thai thief stealing Khmer culture and got caught stealing Khmer culture on YouTube
@DangersMines hahaha U loser ! it's new generation bitch ! Don't u know all the european ppl borrowed roman alphabets? It's called globalization. Democracy also adopted from old Geek. Don't u? or ur shithole country is communist? Nobody can know what happened in the past 2-3000 yrs. Muay thai and Muay boran originated from Thailand since long time. and ur fake Bokator also originated from ur shithole country as well. No wonder why there's a similar pyramid in south america.
You thief asshole said European ppl borrowed Roman alphabets, do Thai ever say borrow numbers from Khmer? First starting to check who ruled the land of Thailand and created a great civilization before Thai ever born. Many books are written by the world scholars calling Khmer Empire and go reading the age of your thief country. You keep changing your ID because you are thief stealing Khmer culture and stealing Khmer temples and got caught stealing on landmines.
@DangersMines Have u ever known? Or if u say Pyramid in South America copied or got influence from Egypt it's totally wrong!! since that time there's no internet. how can they copy? Try to get some knowledge. Do they have any school there in Cambodia? Don't be such an ignorance. Cambodia copied India. satisfy?
That's how you thief talking. Who created the word Pyramid? Every nation has its own word for Pyramid, Khmer have Pyramid temples but we don't call Pyramid temples, we call Prasat Phnom and we don't copy Egypt because our Pyramid is different from Egypt. Cambodia is a country named after an Indian Prince Kambu, only Thai thieves see Indian stealing Indian. The world tall building today, who copied who? Thai thieves always got caught stealing Khmer temples on landmines.
@DangersMines U r really stupid person i've ever met on here. After Thai ppl beat Khmer ppl and took ur land becuz of the war (which normally happened in the war) Then everything , culture, and the dressing style was changed.How did i know? Becuz what u stupid khmer ppl have written on the wall in Ankor wat r showing ur style of dressing. Im sure Thai ppl were influenced something by khmers but we changed and made it our own style. So its ours.
@DangersMines After that Cambodia were invaded by Thai and definitely got all influences by Thai ppl for more than 800 yrs after. Counting from the time u were a thai slave and kept sending tax to thai until france came and took it away.Believe me the style of Temple and ur Grand palace were built after Thai. Ur Temple style as i see from Ankor wat is totally different from now.Cuz thai influenced ur style of temple.even more obvious nowaday.Ur ppl r stealing Thai music by not adapting anything.
Thailand was Khmer Empire land for more 1000 years before Thai invading. Khmer built their great culture in SEA and called it Great Khmer Civilization. Thai just came and stole it from Khmer. No matter Thai changed their ID they still got caught stealing Khmer culture and got caught stealing Khmer temples on landmines.
@DangersMines U r talking with no sense. Just like What English people or American people stole from Roman and Greek? No, u got confused. U r showing ur stupid brain again. Ur grand palace in cambodia designed by Thai architectures. Even the National Library. What should u be proud of? Now tell me the ugly concrete buildings in ur country are the innovation of Greek-Roman or not? Damn, U r stealing those people. they were more than 2000 yrs , older than ur history.
@DangersMines So, you don't have a video clip of Khmer boxing which is older than the 1920's clip of Muay Thai. why can't you just use logic and reason and reality for your arguments? also agkor wat doesnt have videos, and angkor wat was built between 10th and 13th centuries, not first.
@Raksmey89 Actually there are only about six images on a single temple in the Angkor Complex. And Angkor wat was only completed in the thirteenth century. this is the problem, there is no record of Bokator or Bradal serey which is more than 700 or 800 years old.
Older bokator enthusiasts felt that the youth's style, particularly the ones from Phnom Penh, was unauthentic. They felt that they were not true bokator techniques but instead a hybrid between other martial arts. In addition, it is known that San Kim Sean is a practitioner of hapkido from which techniques of his school of bokator could be derived from.[4] Meas Sok said of San Kim Sean's students, "These fighters are not using real bokator techniques. Some of these kids look like crabs walking."
Com to cambodia and learn it. meas sok did say that. and he has done NOTHING to help promote khmer martial art, and either have you. maybe you are Vietnamese and want to hurt cambodia.
I wish I had one of those brains that could remember ten thousand techniques, probably why I am not a purist, but I am grateful to those who are, and to those who keep styles alive. Great video.
i'm pretty sure they derive...like if you knock down muay thai there's really a few strike just from different angle and so forth...i dunno that's what i think...plus fighting's instinctive...
nothing like muay thai. even boran styles of muay thai would have less than a hundred techniques counting variations. bokator actually has thousands of techniques. remember you have to learn katas like in karate so the moevments are recorded and numbered. it is a huge number.
Its fact that to many techniques lead to memory over load and it hinders your reaction. How can you even practise 10,000 or even 1000 techniques enough to even make it muscle memory? its better to have a few good techniques you practised a million times then a 1000 that you only practise a few times lol Funny how hapkido and its cousin styles kuksoolwon n hwarangdo also claims 10,000 techniques same belt techniques like bokator with the same technique in the same order...coincidence?
I can I contact the grandmaster ? I'm living in france, i would be interressed by living my country to learn a new martial arts system (BOKATOR). I've train muay thai, and many sword style...may be it could help me to have bases.
thai peole is from china everything they use is Khmer simple as that they dont used nothin from china cuz they slaurghtered all their people thats y they ran away and learn from the best
get your history right thai are from south china but thier not chinese. they dont even speak chinese. and the one that still live there dont even speak chinese they speak tai kadai dialect which is the same as northern thailand dialect. and they got a martial art call muay lai tai which is still practice within the tai tribes in thailand northern burma and northern thailand.
yeah yeah i know wat u are.. nacho.. save it.. point is your land is in southern china, ancestors are china. tai move south for a reason, know? china kick u out and u came and learn from the best just like a said. Tradition, arts, music, martial arts, religion.. its pretty straight
i learned muay thai from my uncle, he's khmer and insists it came from Cambodia, but to be honest who knows?.....but i heard muay boran and muay thai was different due to muay thai is more for sport and muay boran is more for deathblows in real life or death, due to boxing gloves compared to ropes which differentiates them, correct me if im wrong, im not a enthusiasts i just apprecitate it
yeah you are pretty accurate. bokator is probably the oldest. then comes muay boran which was a practical combat fighting system and then comes sport muay thai. and sport muay thai is not as brutal as boran because it is a sport with rules. but the best fighters come from muay thai because they train to fight. today no one really learns and fights with boran.
1.Bokator has locks,throws,grappling and all striking. then why did GM kim learn hapkido which has less moves and why did he teach it in cambodia then the U.S havin ranked up to 7dan.
2.Why didnt he teach bokator it in the first place? here or in america if bokator was traditional n has more. why did he only teach it "later" it doesnt make sense.
3.All his karma techniques are the same as hapkidos belt moves n are in the same order why?
4.there are many MA's with shady historys trying to connect it with historical skills of past styles, so what makes bokator more legit and true?
5.why doesnt it look like any other khmer MA style that survived? but looks like hapkido n kickboxing.
6.why does all the other masters call his style made up, and he seems to be adding new things to it that he never talked about like ground fighting until americans joined his school.
Theres nothing wrong with making up a complete relistic style but seems to me and my khmer friends in phanom pehn half of his stuff isnt what he says it is.....are they paying u well? seems like ur always advertising his style n history without taking into account maybe facts n loop holes. Kru Meas n many others after looking into it kims bokator is not ancient but a modern recreation from khmer KB and hapkido with some nice new forms. and now ground fighting.....
his history is about as fake as taekwondo claiming its 5000 years old n pointing to murals n stone craving of ambiguous poses n stances that could be from anything,even tho its masters clearly point to karate. and Kims background hapkido which he taught for 20 years getting up to grandmaster level spending all that time with a korean art then out of the blue bust out bokator while makin a bisznes trip back to cambodia in the 90s. khmers r being coned may the truth be out there soon.
@anhkhoinguyen the bokator of grand master san kim saen has now been recognised by UNESCO, the World Martial Arts Federation, and the government of France. and the first european bokator federation has been established.
if you are khmer, you can take pride in this. and be happy and support the art. the other option is, we close down the bokator and then cambodia doesnt have world recognition for anything.
the video about international recognition is on my channel
wow! this is really cool site. i am khmer and I speak it fluently along with knowing the history well. But I had no idea what Bokator was until I watched it. The khmer person who is translating this video did a great job. I can never be as great as he is. thanks for posting it.
wow! you are translating in both Khmer and English? You are very good. You speak Khmer fluently and I did not find any mistakes or grammatical errors. You speak it perfectly. Awesome. When you translate in Khmer, it reminded me of a Khmer actor. You sound just like him.
Thanks, but if you see on history channel i am also translating khmer and on my burma videos and lao and thai yo hear me translating a little and doing a few interviews in thai, but it is easy becausse we are taking about fighting, so i know what we are talking about. i wouldnt do as well talking about another subject
wtf dude? y u tryin start a net fight? i jus joked n said that i THOUGHT u said kadaw when u said bokator fast. And ur the one whos startin to freakin talk dirty, geez.
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That's ok i use modern medicine and doctors when i am ill or injured. lucky, it doesnt come up that often. as for teh wind knocked out of you, DONT DO ANYTHING! when the wind is knocked out of you, you need to just sit or lay down and est till you recover. adding any powders or vapors or other folk remedies will just decrease the amount of oxygen that gets into your body, which would be harmful.
My uncle knows Kun Khmer Boran. I haven't seen the man in years. He's from Battambang. Every kid in his village knows how to fight. He taught me a lot about the art. Here's a secret you might want to know, before you enter into a fight of any kind, this magical herb can help increase your stamina, and strengthen your heart, and boost up your brain power. In America they call it Cayenne Pepper. In Southeast Asia, it's called Red Chili or Thai pepper.
curious about the comment. i assume by "shite" you meant complete shit. do you mean you dont believe the story or found it disinteresting? please expound on that.
You have to pass on what you know of Bokator to at least your kids, or at least a student. Our Khmer heritage would be passed on to you, regardless of race. Bokator lives through you Antonio!!
And yo for yall thats talkin about Bokator is Khmer or its Thai...look what I forgettin is that the Khmer kingdom dominated this whole region. And plus what the Khmer people learned about fightin came from the Indian traders that they did business with. People learn shit and then they keep it or branch off into their own thing.
before the war in cambodia, pre 1975 there were two hop kido instructors in cambodia. they trained about 8 cambodians to black belt level. all but two were killed by khmer rouge. the master was so afraid of being discovered as a bokator master he didnt openly teach the art till he came back to cambodia.
yeah but he was in America for 20yrs. they wasnt gonna kill him in the US. Im askin where did he learn Bakator? If he learned Hopkido in Cambodia how many years did he spend learning Hopkido or did he just go thru the motions? If he learned Bokator in Cambodia how many years did he train who did he train with? Not trynna diss the man. I know he got some good shit to teach. Im just wonderin.
he learned in cambodia before the war. he was already in his twenties when the war broke out. he learned from several teachers, one for long stick, one for short stick, several for hand and foot, others foor knives and swords, another for wrestling and at least one for bradal serey kick boxing.
yeah, I understand that. so now the question is where did he learn Hopkido? if he was trainin in Bokator in his youth until his 20's, where did he learn Hopkido?
are you still in cambodia? the site said he charges $5 an hour. did you had to pay? for real, thats just ridiculous. thats about $200 a month for trainin.
i am not in cambodia anymore. i spent about two years there training. you can work a deal with master but 200 month is cheaper than what you will get anywere else in the world. thailand is at least that and US would be like ten times that amount. but talk to master to cut a deal.
Sorry, i dont really understand what you wrote. Perhaps you could have an educated friend help you with gramar. are you sking me if i am selling the master to His Majesty the King of Thailand, no I am not. i dont think the video makes any reference about selling anything to anyone. we are just trying to promote khmer martial arts.
I saw a sneak peek at the new Ong Bak 2 movie, and it seems as though they're copying all the Bokator techniques and putting it in the movie, claiming as if this style originated in Thailand. You guys should check out Ong Bak 2. It's a rip off of Bokator. Unfreaking believable!!
Lai tai is completely Shan, it was never part of Thai martial arts. i have been all over the region and trained with everyone. the shan lai tai is a codefied martial arts system. Bokator is a codefied martial arts system. Muay Boran is not. i think it is a deadly fighting art, but it is not a codefied system, each teacher just teaches what he wants or what he knows. and muay boran has almost no connection to Lai tai.
for all you khmer who think thais never had thier own fighting style check this video out in youtube Martial Arts Odyssey : Lai Tai(Part 1) its the shan or in thai language the tai yai tribes who are ancestor of the thai from china. there fore thais didnt steal your kun khmer.
hello i'm khmer, i would know where is the master samkin sean, i'm a 100% khmer ^^ and very pasionated by Bokator, 'cause, i think, is the better martial arts in the world, thanks for reply
i cant believe while watching this clip, my tears run down cus m so proud of being khmer. It is so amazing how Khmer have so many history and culture, obstacle and challenges Khmer pple faced, and yet we are still strong.
Both these guys commenting are idiots.
hazza3 2 weeks ago
Khmers are master in Music, Art of fighting, Sak Yernt, Apsara dancing, rock builder, art carving, relationship with Gods, water irregation, many styles of architecture, from wood, rock, brick, sand stone. Styles of present daly dacing: Romvong, Rom Kbach, Saravan, Kantreum, Temples styles everywhere in the Country. It was older than Thai grand palace. What you talking about Mr DangerMines.
akaso009 1 month ago
I used to learn Wing Chhun and Pak Mei (white Tiger) 4years, but Bokator is very unique forms, the movements are different. I feel that I want to learn Bokator. Muay Thai is just a sport. It is not far away from Bokator. The some movements are very similarities to Bokator. Wing Chhun has elbows too but no high knee. However the movements are very different.
max1235567 1 month ago
@ichibang15549 I dont love baseball footballl....i love martial art and fighting sport and i practice fighting sport. i question how you can even understand muay when you havent studied it. i have studied muay in lao, cambodia, malaysia and all over thailand.
brooklynmonk1 4 months ago
@ichibang15549 You dont study muay Thai? You are so pathetic. I know that ignorant people often hate. Thai people do not hate me because of bokator. we have been through this many times. I have tons of friends in thailand. i train at a number of gyms in thailand. i have done TV in thailand, magazines, books, people do not hate me in thailand. YOU hate me, but you are one person who doesnt even love Muay Thai enough to learn it.
brooklynmonk1 4 months ago
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Because cambodian hate thailand they Spread Rumors about thai stole their martial art if anyone want to belive them that fine but if anyone want to know the Truth u can search in youtube between our art before develop to sport martial art search " Oldest Thai Boxing footage ever from 1920's " and " Bokator/Pradal Serey, Angkor Wat Cambodia 1930s "
it total deference fighting style.
arm61037 4 months ago
Is there any historical written evidence that support what Master Sam Kim Seng said about Bokator ?
zin2zin 6 months ago
@zin2zin There are no historical or written records of Bokator.
brooklynmonk1 6 months ago
WOW, how do i get started?????
AChozenSunn 8 months ago
Ah, arent ancient martial arts amazing, there is so much history and philosophy in them that is very intresting, i dont know why people are still saying that one is better than the other, again like you videos (more of a souther shaolin practicioner) but nevertheless amazing art.
darksantos1 8 months ago
you are heartless
chan44555 9 months ago
@chan44555 who is heartless? I don't understand.
brooklynmonk1 9 months ago
@brooklynmonk1
The man who said bad about Bokator
chan44555 9 months ago
@chan44555 i dont see a comment that is bad about Bokator. Are you sure you understand how to make comments on youtube?
brooklynmonk1 9 months ago
please moral to share any comment
chan44555 9 months ago
Antonio, great coverage and introduction of this martial art. Thanks!
Rhoks77 10 months ago
Does master Sam Kim Sean speak vietnamese?
Flamingdragonarse 11 months ago
@Flamingdragonarse No he doesn't
brooklynmonk1 11 months ago
@brooklynmonk1 if you said bokator copy from muay thai maybe is good that you know it , but please stop and take 1 minute for thinking , if all your comment are true ? are you sure ? is true please show all thing that can tell us , you are the one really love muay thai , but is not true please correct your words by saying SORRY in your heart for us , I'm Cambodia man i love Bokator but i never said something bad form Thai , cause i know thai also love their muay tahi too
chan44555 9 months ago
@chan44555 I really can't follow what you said because your grammar is so wrong. but if you are accusing me of saying that bokator copied muay Thai, i never said that. In fact i am easily the number one proponent of bokator online and in the world and you are a complete idiot for insulting me. why don't you get off the couch and do something to support bokator or to promote but don't screw with me.
brooklynmonk1 9 months ago
FUCKING BOKATO!! martial arts of slave!! Copy Muay Thai!!
samuraipsycho 11 months ago
@samuraipsycho Actually Bokator predates Muay Thai by about 300 years. also, Bolkator has thousands of techniques, including ground fighting, which Muay Thai doesn't. So, it can't really be called a copy. If you are interested in Bokator and Muay Thai, I have published numerous articles comparing the two. you could find them with a quick google search.
brooklynmonk1 11 months ago 2
@samuraipsycho According to your activity history on youtube, you spent the better part of Saturday writing negative comments on Bokator videos, in favor of muay Thai. But you don't have any Muay Thai videos on your channel. If you love Muay Thai, why aren't you training and fighting? If you want to promote Muay Thai, why don't you publish videos about Muay Thai? Apparently, you don't love Muay Thai even to practice it, research its history, or promote it on the web.
brooklynmonk1 11 months ago 8
@samuraipsycho WHERE WERE YOU1930 WE HAD EVERY THING CULTURE ,TEMPLES ,YOU JUST BRAIN WASH FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT
MrTaroEater 9 months ago
@samuraipsycho
MrTaroEater 9 months ago
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FUCKING BOKATO!! martial arts of slave!! Copy Muay Thai!!
samuraipsycho 11 months ago
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FUCKING BOKATO!! martial arts of slave!! Copy Muay Thai!!
samuraipsycho 11 months ago
It is pretty funny to me that people argue in English about which culture influenced which.
xtattertatterx 1 year ago
I like this martial art alot.
darkspineshadow134 1 year ago
thai got it all from us (cambodians) and they get all the credit?
l3l3oyAce 1 year ago
4. Musti yuddha is probably the origin of All martial arts in Asia. Seeing as even bohdi Dharma was taught this art.
5. Muay Thai, even Muay Thai Boran, does not use animal forms.
6. Japanese martial arts came from kung fu which came from indian martial arts. Don't see the Indians crying about it o.O lol
I do agree there was a huge influence in Thai culture from khmer culture but to say you are the ORIGIN is just a big lie.
KensaiZen 1 year ago
1. khmer are not indiginous people of SEA. they migrated into SEA
2. ALL khmer culture is based on Indian culture
3. khmers stole mon land Dvaravati (of what would be present day Thailand)
4. Thailand is situated between Cambodia and Burma. Burma also has lethwei which is pretty identicle to khun khmer (proper name for it. NOT bokator) so who influenced who and stole what?
5. Thai style does not include animal forms but lethwei does. Go figure.
KensaiZen 1 year ago
We just want to enjoy Bokator. Stop the history and politics drama on the comments section. Nobody cares, ok? Leave us to enjoy this martial arts.
Riverdexter 1 year ago 4
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Sup Antonio If u have a chance pleace send this message to Grand Master San Kim Sean
The way he tought bokator is great but i think is a little weak n he should teach the dangerous/deadly technique so we won't stay below anybody when it come to the mix martial art. thanks u man
kambodiaboz 1 year ago
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TeukTnotChou 1 year ago
The western word BOX came from the Khmer word BOK = BOK A TOR means HIT A LION that carved on the stone wall of Khmer temples over 1000 years ago.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines no the western word box is much older than the western worlds involvement in cambodia. the word comes from europe. Bok does mean fight in Khmer, but it is probably a coincidence. and the word bok is not carved on stone, only images of men fighting.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
The western got no proof, Khmer got proof of BOK on the stone wall of Khmer temple.
If there is image because there is a word.
It's not a coincidence, it is true.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines actually we do have proof. that is what i said in teh previous email, the first use of the word box or boxing was in a newspaper in 1670 in england. since the word is not written on the walls at angkor then you dont actually have proof that you invented the word.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1 also, as i pointed out in the email, which you obviously cant read, there are boxing pictures in the west dating back to the greeks empires which are 3,000 years old and to the romans which are more than 2,000 years old, more than a thousand years before angkor.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1 from wikipedia: Fist fighting depicted in Sumerian relief carvings from the 3rd millennium BC, and an ancient Egyptian relief from the 2nd millennium BC, a Mesopotamian stone tablet in Baghdad, Iraq believed to be 7,000 years old.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
Greek and Roman boxing don't use knee, Khmer BOK using knee and Greek and Roman don't play music to associate with their boxing.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines yes but that doesnt in any way prove that the western word boxing came from the khmer word bok. in fact it almost proves that the two sports arent even related. and we know that it is an established fact that the french brought th ring and boxing goloves to cambodia.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
The West like American steals Khmer creation and give it to Thai because the current Thai King Bhumibol is American. Look at American Google map for example, the whole world know that Preah Vihear Temple is belonged to Khmer, but Google map showing most of Khmer Preah Vihear Temple in Thailand.
DangersMines 1 year ago
1670 is not old enough to prove. The Khmer word BOK of BOKATOR came from the stone wall of Khmer temple over 1000 years that prove Khmer created the word BOK before the western.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines no actually there are no wors on those carving. we established this like five comments ago. there are no words on those carvings. so the origin of the word bok can't be proved but even if it could, it doesnt prove teh western word came fromcambodia
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@DangersMines no actually there are no wors on those carving. we established this like five comments ago. there are no words on those carvings. so the origin of the word bok can't be proved but even if it could, it doesnt prove teh western word came fromcambodia
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
Greek and Roman proof of boxing are made from painting and I dont trust those painting.
Khmer proof of bokator is carving on the stone wall and made from stone.
There must be the word BOK somewhere otherwise Khmer wouldnt call it BOKATOR.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines once again, we have paintings and carvings dating back thousands of years, well before angkor. and we have writing dating back 300 years. the word bok is not carved on the walls at angkor. have you ever read a book of khmer history? have you ever studied angkor wat? you dont seem to know much about anything. are you khmer or viet?
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1 ignore him man, no point talking to a retard. anyways.. can u give me the direction to the boaktor school in phnom penh? i am hoping to visit srok khmer this summer and try to learn as much as i can. i tryed asking my cosin but they dont seem to know. i want to plan ahead so that i dont waste anytime looking for it. thank you.
sonohkong 1 year ago
I don't see any carving on western, I only see painting. The Khmer man BOK A TOR carving on the stone wall and that BOK word came from there. Who I am is none of your business.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines there are tons of carvings in europe dating back more than 3,000 years. the fact that you havent seen them is most likely because you are uneducated and dont read or study. there are much older carvings depicting boxing which go back 8000 years in the arab world.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@DangersMines BITCH U ARE JSUT A FUCKING KHMER AMERICAN. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. u dont know shit.
sonohkong 1 year ago
@sonohkong SHUT THE F****yourself and go crazy yourself when you shut the F****
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines what??? learn to speak english....u dont even know shit about khmer, so just shut the fuck up and quit trying to be a retard. go learn some history and ten talk shit.
sonohkong 1 year ago
@sonohkong Sure I knew about Khmer and that's a retard like you can't correct the Google Map but to BITCH and BARK dumbshit. Go showing your dumbshit afraid of the western stealing Khmer creation and gave to other.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines damm u are one dumbass mother fucker. what are u trying to say?? why the fuck are u talknig about the map???
sonohkong 1 year ago
@DangersMines just shut up dude. you're just making khmer people look dumb. bok and box sound completly different and also have different meanings.why are u going around talking about other countries stealing stuff? stop living in the past, our country sucks right now. it great in angkor time but now it sucks. so stop thinking that khmer is better than other countries.
sonohkong 1 year ago
@sonohkon what about shut the F*** yourself. People like you never correct the western and that's why the west like Google Map showing Cambodia Preah Vihear Temple mostly on the Thailand side. You are the one suck not me, not my Khmer people and my Cambodia.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines i have suggested at least ten or twelve times during this long exchange that you go read a book on khmer history and one on boxing history but you seem to have no education at all. what is that like? it must be very frustrating. you're angry and want to change your life but can't. you will be poor the rest of your life and never get the respect you crave. how horrible to be you.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
I read book and I read news. You read nothing, if you read something,
Tell me what did the west like Google Map do to Cambodia lately about Cambodia Preah Vihear Temple????
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines actually you have clearly read absolutely nothing. you dont seem to know even very basic history and your english is terrible. but what the west did for the temple was, UN designated that the temple officially belongs to cambodia. that was in the news, surprised you missed it. the reason google map shows it on the thai side of the border is because the temple hasnt moved, only the official ownership was given to cambodia.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
The temple can't move, but the satellite can move anytime. The west like American Google Map tried to steal Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to the Thai King American born. Not only Cambodia Preah Vihear that
American tried to gave to Thailand even Muay Thai that no one heard about Muay Siam before that American promoted Muay Thai for Thailand during Cambodia
was busy at war. So dont you tell me that you are so sure about the word BOK!!!
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines But this issue has already been settled by UNESCO, once again you should read some times. UNESCo is under the UN which was founded by the US and where US has about 75% of the total influence. the US never tried to steal your temple. as for muay thai, we have newsreel footage of muay thai dating back to the 1920s. it has existed for at least 500 years of documented history but we have video that is nearly a hundred years old.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
The temple can't move, but the satellite can move anytime. The west like American Google Map tried to steal Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to the Thai King American born. Not only Cambodia Preah Vihear that
American tried to gave to Thailand even Muay Thai that no one heard about Muay Siam before that American promoted Muay Thai for Thailand during Cambodia
was busy at war. So dont you tell me that you are sure about the word BOK!!!
DangersMines 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
Watch the truth of Viet IQ and Thai IQ video on my channel and you tell me what do you see???
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines if you want to talkabout viet IQ vietnam is the fastest growing economy in the world and has one of the highest levels of overall education in southeast asia. cambodia still has about 50% illiteracy.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
I talked only the Viet stealing Khmer pride like Angkor Wat, Khmer writing and Khmer Prahok and claimed as Viet product as the world can see the video on my channel.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines you said viet IQ. iIQ means intelligence quotient and is thought to b a measure of the capacity of an individual to learn. in this department, countries with higher levels of education and literacy, such as Thailand and Vietnam, would generally rank higher.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
Viet IQ and Thai IQ video stealing Khmer pride is on my channel.
Watch it and if you can't understand because your IQ is worse than the Viet and Thai thief IQ.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines actually my iq is higher than the average in thailand or vietnam. i have it checked.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
Your IQ is lower than Viet thieves and Thai thieves because I hit the nail right in your face with that video on my channel as proof to prove you read nothing and learn nothing about the truth.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines sorry i missed this one. actually my IQ is well over 120 but the average in both thailand and cambodia is well under 100, in fact in cambodia it is in the 80s which would be like special ed level in US. this is a fact, not an opinion, look it up. if you have trouble with the big words in the articles, let me know and i will help you.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
The west like the French stealing the Khmer BOK and gave to Greek and Roman. The west like the US Google Map stealing Khmer Preah Vihear and gave to Thailand and a west like you see Viet and Thai stealing Khmer national pride Angkor Wat, Khmer writing and Khmer Prahok to export their product and you claimed Viet and Thai are better than Khmer (sic) !!!
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines the romans and greeks predate the frenc by almost a full milenium, so your comment makes no sense. the west, the UN, gave preah vihear to cambodia, so that is the opposite of taking it away. no one took angkor wat or khmer writing from you and as for muay thai cambodia has made ZERO effort to export bradal serey. but i would support it if they did.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
The video on my channel Thai are thieves and steal Khmer pride and claimed product in Thailand, only a moron you can't see it wrong. Cambodia is coming back and that's a reason why Thai thieves go stealing Cambodia Preah Vihear again because Thai thieves are so jealous of Cambodia.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
The west boxing became the Olympic game after the French went to Cambodia, the French claimed the origin of Greek but as I said there is no proof of Greek boxing carving but only Greek painting. Go reading before claiming the UN giving Preah Vihear to Cambodia. Cambodia took Thailand to the world court and Thailand lost its thief face against Cambodia at the ICJ in Netherlands.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines actually boxing was in the first olympics which is three thousand years ago. the first use of teh word boxing in a western newspaper was in 175o, a hundred years before france went to cambodia. and the ICJ is in the west. and it was the west who helped cambodia win the case and put an end to the dispute. netherlands is in the west.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
The ICJ judges are not only the West, there are Chinese and Japanese judges!!!
Not the ancient Greek Olympic game!! The one world Olympic game founded by the French Pierre de Coubertin in 1894 and that after the French went to Cambodia and founded out all Khmer civilization included the Khmer BOKATOR.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines no, the first modern olympics was held in 1894 but the first olympics was in 776 BC . london prize fighting boxing rules come from england, not france, modern boxing comes from england and the first written report of boxing in england was in the 12th and 13th century with an organized sport in 1750s. this is easily the tenth time i have told you this.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
The Ancient Greek Olympic game in 776 BC wasn't founded by the French Pierre de Coubertin. The world Olympic game started in 1894 after the French went to Cambodia and they founded Khmer BOKATOR and they credit to Greek instead of giving credit to Khmer just like Google Map stealing Cambodia Preah Vihear and gave to Thailand.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines yes you are correct the ancient greek olympics were not founded by the french. no one has made that claim. you seem to be the only person on the planet who questions the history of greece and rome. i wish i was half as smart as you think you are. before you further embarrass your self and your country, PLEAE get an education, a real education, based on study and experience, rather than base don anger and emotion.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
You got always wrong that I have to correct you all the time from ancient Greek Olympic game to the world Olympic game founded by the French, from the ICJ WEST!!! Helping Cambodia to the ICJ Chinese and Japanese judges!!!
The west like Google Map giving Cambodia Preah Vihear to Thailand and you know what else do I have in mind about American? Since Thailand has a Thai-American King, why there is Gulf of Thailand instead of Gulf of Indochina???
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines I just found a video clip of a Muay Thai match in Thailand in the 1920s. do you have a film clip of a bradal serey fight that predates this one/
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
@brooklynmonk1
I just saved a video of Khmer BOKATOR that carved on Khmer temple on my favorite.
Khmer BOKATOR is the father of all Khmer martial arts included Pradal Serey, Kun Khmer Boran etc...
Khmer BOKATOR has been existed since the Khmer birth at the 1st century or may be before that. So do the match, 1st century and 1920s which one is the oldest? I'm sure there is Pradal Serey before Muay Thai video somewhere on YouTube got to search it.
DangersMines 1 year ago
@DangersMines U bitch , Big liar. Ur stupid Bokator filmed in 1930 while Thailand filmed in 1920 ! Look at those videos. Khmer still practicing on the ground while Thailand has a formation, more formal, with tradition and fighting on the stage! Don't tell us a big lie. U Bitch.
Chetah01 1 month ago
@Chetah01
What are you talking about Thai thief ASSHOLE? Our Khmer Bokator carving on the stone wall on Khmer temples since you thief haven't born. You Thai thief stealing Khmer culture and got caught stealing Khmer culture on YouTube
Thai thief ASSHOLE!!!
DangersMines 1 month ago
@DangersMines hahaha U loser ! it's new generation bitch ! Don't u know all the european ppl borrowed roman alphabets? It's called globalization. Democracy also adopted from old Geek. Don't u? or ur shithole country is communist? Nobody can know what happened in the past 2-3000 yrs. Muay thai and Muay boran originated from Thailand since long time. and ur fake Bokator also originated from ur shithole country as well. No wonder why there's a similar pyramid in south america.
Chetah01 1 month ago
@Chetah01
You thief asshole said European ppl borrowed Roman alphabets, do Thai ever say borrow numbers from Khmer? First starting to check who ruled the land of Thailand and created a great civilization before Thai ever born. Many books are written by the world scholars calling Khmer Empire and go reading the age of your thief country. You keep changing your ID because you are thief stealing Khmer culture and stealing Khmer temples and got caught stealing on landmines.
DangersMines 1 month ago
@DangersMines Have u ever known? Or if u say Pyramid in South America copied or got influence from Egypt it's totally wrong!! since that time there's no internet. how can they copy? Try to get some knowledge. Do they have any school there in Cambodia? Don't be such an ignorance. Cambodia copied India. satisfy?
Chetah01 1 month ago
@Chetah01
That's how you thief talking. Who created the word Pyramid? Every nation has its own word for Pyramid, Khmer have Pyramid temples but we don't call Pyramid temples, we call Prasat Phnom and we don't copy Egypt because our Pyramid is different from Egypt. Cambodia is a country named after an Indian Prince Kambu, only Thai thieves see Indian stealing Indian. The world tall building today, who copied who? Thai thieves always got caught stealing Khmer temples on landmines.
DangersMines 1 month ago
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@DangersMines U r really stupid person i've ever met on here. After Thai ppl beat Khmer ppl and took ur land becuz of the war (which normally happened in the war) Then everything , culture, and the dressing style was changed.How did i know? Becuz what u stupid khmer ppl have written on the wall in Ankor wat r showing ur style of dressing. Im sure Thai ppl were influenced something by khmers but we changed and made it our own style. So its ours.
Chetah01 1 month ago
@DangersMines After that Cambodia were invaded by Thai and definitely got all influences by Thai ppl for more than 800 yrs after. Counting from the time u were a thai slave and kept sending tax to thai until france came and took it away.Believe me the style of Temple and ur Grand palace were built after Thai. Ur Temple style as i see from Ankor wat is totally different from now.Cuz thai influenced ur style of temple.even more obvious nowaday.Ur ppl r stealing Thai music by not adapting anything.
Chetah01 1 month ago
@Chetah01
Thailand was Khmer Empire land for more 1000 years before Thai invading. Khmer built their great culture in SEA and called it Great Khmer Civilization. Thai just came and stole it from Khmer. No matter Thai changed their ID they still got caught stealing Khmer culture and got caught stealing Khmer temples on landmines.
DangersMines 1 week ago
@DangersMines U r talking with no sense. Just like What English people or American people stole from Roman and Greek? No, u got confused. U r showing ur stupid brain again. Ur grand palace in cambodia designed by Thai architectures. Even the National Library. What should u be proud of? Now tell me the ugly concrete buildings in ur country are the innovation of Greek-Roman or not? Damn, U r stealing those people. they were more than 2000 yrs , older than ur history.
Chetah01 1 week ago
@DangersMines So, you don't have a video clip of Khmer boxing which is older than the 1920's clip of Muay Thai. why can't you just use logic and reason and reality for your arguments? also agkor wat doesnt have videos, and angkor wat was built between 10th and 13th centuries, not first.
brooklynmonk1 1 month ago
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Chetah01 1 month ago
@brooklynmonk1 Yes, on the carvings of many temple walls in Cambodia.
Raksmey89 1 year ago
@Raksmey89 Actually there are only about six images on a single temple in the Angkor Complex. And Angkor wat was only completed in the thirteenth century. this is the problem, there is no record of Bokator or Bradal serey which is more than 700 or 800 years old.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
Older bokator enthusiasts felt that the youth's style, particularly the ones from Phnom Penh, was unauthentic. They felt that they were not true bokator techniques but instead a hybrid between other martial arts. In addition, it is known that San Kim Sean is a practitioner of hapkido from which techniques of his school of bokator could be derived from.[4] Meas Sok said of San Kim Sean's students, "These fighters are not using real bokator techniques. Some of these kids look like crabs walking."
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
Com to cambodia and learn it. meas sok did say that. and he has done NOTHING to help promote khmer martial art, and either have you. maybe you are Vietnamese and want to hurt cambodia.
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
4:19 -4:24 i seen that part in a movie somwhere???????
damnwindowshopper 2 years ago
I wish I had one of those brains that could remember ten thousand techniques, probably why I am not a purist, but I am grateful to those who are, and to those who keep styles alive. Great video.
SuperKixxx 2 years ago
i'm pretty sure they derive...like if you knock down muay thai there's really a few strike just from different angle and so forth...i dunno that's what i think...plus fighting's instinctive...
Asianboysiam 2 years ago
nothing like muay thai. even boran styles of muay thai would have less than a hundred techniques counting variations. bokator actually has thousands of techniques. remember you have to learn katas like in karate so the moevments are recorded and numbered. it is a huge number.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
Its fact that to many techniques lead to memory over load and it hinders your reaction. How can you even practise 10,000 or even 1000 techniques enough to even make it muscle memory? its better to have a few good techniques you practised a million times then a 1000 that you only practise a few times lol Funny how hapkido and its cousin styles kuksoolwon n hwarangdo also claims 10,000 techniques same belt techniques like bokator with the same technique in the same order...coincidence?
anhkhoinguyen 1 year ago
great work, i look forward to visiting the school myself
bohdibandit 2 years ago
I can I contact the grandmaster ? I'm living in france, i would be interressed by living my country to learn a new martial arts system (BOKATOR). I've train muay thai, and many sword style...may be it could help me to have bases.
jojone 2 years ago
Monnkey da monkey do. I give it C- to D-
TheLibertard 2 years ago
nice...i l love bokator! you're the best Antonio! and please keep the videos coming. i really hope bokator becomes global.
UnlimitedBlack3 2 years ago
Wah!!! I didn't know Cambodia had their own Gung-Fu. Jai Yo Kampuchea!!! Lets go kick a kitty kat.
LechiPockyPocky 2 years ago
man this is hella tight
dyingxmonkey 2 years ago
i want them to bring it to WIS so us Khmer people can learn it to
Ji33yboy 2 years ago
GOOD VIDEO
WrestlingKingTV 2 years ago
I went to cambodia once to help one fo the orphanages in siem reap. If only i knew bout this earlier.
If only i could learn la bokator here in singapore.
SpeakoutnTouchme 2 years ago
so is san kim saen training foreigners aswell or is he not???
kullka 2 years ago
yes he also takes foreign students. he really wants foreign studens so they can go to their home country and spread bokator in the world.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
what came first, muay boran or bokator? did muay boran really originate from cambodia?
CHEEEYYUHH 2 years ago
Labokatao came first. Muay Boran is its successor.
and I believe it did =)
KhmerIshMe 2 years ago
thai peole is from china everything they use is Khmer simple as that they dont used nothin from china cuz they slaurghtered all their people thats y they ran away and learn from the best
AngKoRiaN1 2 years ago 2
get your history right thai are from south china but thier not chinese. they dont even speak chinese. and the one that still live there dont even speak chinese they speak tai kadai dialect which is the same as northern thailand dialect. and they got a martial art call muay lai tai which is still practice within the tai tribes in thailand northern burma and northern thailand.
Nakorn24 2 years ago
yeah yeah i know wat u are.. nacho.. save it.. point is your land is in southern china, ancestors are china. tai move south for a reason, know? china kick u out and u came and learn from the best just like a said. Tradition, arts, music, martial arts, religion.. its pretty straight
AngKoRiaN1 2 years ago 6
i learned muay thai from my uncle, he's khmer and insists it came from Cambodia, but to be honest who knows?.....but i heard muay boran and muay thai was different due to muay thai is more for sport and muay boran is more for deathblows in real life or death, due to boxing gloves compared to ropes which differentiates them, correct me if im wrong, im not a enthusiasts i just apprecitate it
Dural03 2 years ago
yeah you are pretty accurate. bokator is probably the oldest. then comes muay boran which was a practical combat fighting system and then comes sport muay thai. and sport muay thai is not as brutal as boran because it is a sport with rules. but the best fighters come from muay thai because they train to fight. today no one really learns and fights with boran.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago
Question.
1.Bokator has locks,throws,grappling and all striking. then why did GM kim learn hapkido which has less moves and why did he teach it in cambodia then the U.S havin ranked up to 7dan.
2.Why didnt he teach bokator it in the first place? here or in america if bokator was traditional n has more. why did he only teach it "later" it doesnt make sense.
3.All his karma techniques are the same as hapkidos belt moves n are in the same order why?
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anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
4.there are many MA's with shady historys trying to connect it with historical skills of past styles, so what makes bokator more legit and true?
5.why doesnt it look like any other khmer MA style that survived? but looks like hapkido n kickboxing.
6.why does all the other masters call his style made up, and he seems to be adding new things to it that he never talked about like ground fighting until americans joined his school.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with making up a complete relistic style but seems to me and my khmer friends in phanom pehn half of his stuff isnt what he says it is.....are they paying u well? seems like ur always advertising his style n history without taking into account maybe facts n loop holes. Kru Meas n many others after looking into it kims bokator is not ancient but a modern recreation from khmer KB and hapkido with some nice new forms. and now ground fighting.....
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
his history is about as fake as taekwondo claiming its 5000 years old n pointing to murals n stone craving of ambiguous poses n stances that could be from anything,even tho its masters clearly point to karate. and Kims background hapkido which he taught for 20 years getting up to grandmaster level spending all that time with a korean art then out of the blue bust out bokator while makin a bisznes trip back to cambodia in the 90s. khmers r being coned may the truth be out there soon.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
@anhkhoinguyen the bokator of grand master san kim saen has now been recognised by UNESCO, the World Martial Arts Federation, and the government of France. and the first european bokator federation has been established.
if you are khmer, you can take pride in this. and be happy and support the art. the other option is, we close down the bokator and then cambodia doesnt have world recognition for anything.
the video about international recognition is on my channel
brooklynmonk1 1 year ago
I'm Khmer and proud to be 1 and i'm trying to learn to flip
4LifeKHMER 2 years ago
lol i like stacked it trying to flip
bumado1 2 years ago
so, Muay Thai and Bokator wasn't different at all. but this shiz! was shiz! hmm... need to learn more!
TroubleAlvarez 2 years ago
i am khmer so i love khmer culture and nations....i am prouse that i was born in khmer.....
khmervennesla 2 years ago
i love BOKATOR
sinoch77 2 years ago
wow! this is really cool site. i am khmer and I speak it fluently along with knowing the history well. But I had no idea what Bokator was until I watched it. The khmer person who is translating this video did a great job. I can never be as great as he is. thanks for posting it.
tonysmile1 3 years ago
Actually, i am translating, Antonio Graceffo. I am not Khmer but i lived and studied in Cambodia for two years and speak the language fairly well.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
wow! you are translating in both Khmer and English? You are very good. You speak Khmer fluently and I did not find any mistakes or grammatical errors. You speak it perfectly. Awesome. When you translate in Khmer, it reminded me of a Khmer actor. You sound just like him.
tonysmile1 3 years ago
Thanks, but if you see on history channel i am also translating khmer and on my burma videos and lao and thai yo hear me translating a little and doing a few interviews in thai, but it is easy becausse we are taking about fighting, so i know what we are talking about. i wouldnt do as well talking about another subject
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
yo i swear when that antonio dude supposedly or tried to say bokator real quick, i heard him "Bohng Kadaw" xD
RobDaFob 3 years ago
stop talking dirty on my site. i didnt say anything about kadaw. and why are you so interested in my kadaw (gdaw) anyway?
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
wtf dude? y u tryin start a net fight? i jus joked n said that i THOUGHT u said kadaw when u said bokator fast. And ur the one whos startin to freakin talk dirty, geez.
RobDaFob 3 years ago
no worries man.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
LMAO
I thought you said that too.. XD
KhmerIshMe 2 years ago
excellent Mr. Graceffo! you 're the man. Bokator is one of the best martial art in the world.
camae62 3 years ago
Try doing some research on the healing powers of Cayenne pepper, or Chili peppers in general. If you ever get the wind knocked out of you in a fight, or feeling like your going to die, or you're about to fall unconscious, immediately take the peppers, it will shock your body into proper rhythm. You seem like a good person, so I'll tell you that secret.
AK47KHMER 3 years ago
That's ok i use modern medicine and doctors when i am ill or injured. lucky, it doesnt come up that often. as for teh wind knocked out of you, DONT DO ANYTHING! when the wind is knocked out of you, you need to just sit or lay down and est till you recover. adding any powders or vapors or other folk remedies will just decrease the amount of oxygen that gets into your body, which would be harmful.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
My uncle knows Kun Khmer Boran. I haven't seen the man in years. He's from Battambang. Every kid in his village knows how to fight. He taught me a lot about the art. Here's a secret you might want to know, before you enter into a fight of any kind, this magical herb can help increase your stamina, and strengthen your heart, and boost up your brain power. In America they call it Cayenne Pepper. In Southeast Asia, it's called Red Chili or Thai pepper.
AK47KHMER 3 years ago
complete shite
billysue2 3 years ago
curious about the comment. i assume by "shite" you meant complete shit. do you mean you dont believe the story or found it disinteresting? please expound on that.
Antonio Graceffo
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
i was referring to the posters mumbo jumbo about cayenne peppers not the video
billysue2 3 years ago
Billysue, Ok cool. sorry i got defensive. i agree, cayene pepper is good on tacos, but that's about it.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
Oh.
I remember something like this.
I remember that my master.. Before we fought, made us eat one of those.
So we would want to get water as fast as possible.
KhmerIshMe 2 years ago
You have to pass on what you know of Bokator to at least your kids, or at least a student. Our Khmer heritage would be passed on to you, regardless of race. Bokator lives through you Antonio!!
AK47KHMER 3 years ago
And yo for yall thats talkin about Bokator is Khmer or its Thai...look what I forgettin is that the Khmer kingdom dominated this whole region. And plus what the Khmer people learned about fightin came from the Indian traders that they did business with. People learn shit and then they keep it or branch off into their own thing.
Kinghercules 3 years ago
Ok why does this guys bio says "Sean Kim San taught Aikido in the U.S. for 20 years"?
Why didnt he teach Bokator?
Kinghercules 3 years ago
His bio says he taught Hop Kido, not Aikido. It says that because he did teach hop Kido. He opened the Bokator Akademy when he returned to cambodia
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
Hopkido or Aikido dont matter. Just wonderin why he didnt teach Bokator? where did he learn Hopkido?
Kinghercules 3 years ago
before the war in cambodia, pre 1975 there were two hop kido instructors in cambodia. they trained about 8 cambodians to black belt level. all but two were killed by khmer rouge. the master was so afraid of being discovered as a bokator master he didnt openly teach the art till he came back to cambodia.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
yeah but he was in America for 20yrs. they wasnt gonna kill him in the US. Im askin where did he learn Bakator? If he learned Hopkido in Cambodia how many years did he spend learning Hopkido or did he just go thru the motions? If he learned Bokator in Cambodia how many years did he train who did he train with? Not trynna diss the man. I know he got some good shit to teach. Im just wonderin.
Kinghercules 3 years ago
he learned in cambodia before the war. he was already in his twenties when the war broke out. he learned from several teachers, one for long stick, one for short stick, several for hand and foot, others foor knives and swords, another for wrestling and at least one for bradal serey kick boxing.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
yeah, I understand that. so now the question is where did he learn Hopkido? if he was trainin in Bokator in his youth until his 20's, where did he learn Hopkido?
are you still in cambodia? the site said he charges $5 an hour. did you had to pay? for real, thats just ridiculous. thats about $200 a month for trainin.
Kinghercules 3 years ago
i am not in cambodia anymore. i spent about two years there training. you can work a deal with master but 200 month is cheaper than what you will get anywere else in the world. thailand is at least that and US would be like ten times that amount. but talk to master to cut a deal.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
FraGerX3 what you trying to do? take $35 billion dollars from king bhumibol adulyadej to buy master samkin sean?
Vuthapich 3 years ago
Sorry, i dont really understand what you wrote. Perhaps you could have an educated friend help you with gramar. are you sking me if i am selling the master to His Majesty the King of Thailand, no I am not. i dont think the video makes any reference about selling anything to anyone. we are just trying to promote khmer martial arts.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
I saw a sneak peek at the new Ong Bak 2 movie, and it seems as though they're copying all the Bokator techniques and putting it in the movie, claiming as if this style originated in Thailand. You guys should check out Ong Bak 2. It's a rip off of Bokator. Unfreaking believable!!
TrueRidahTP 3 years ago
Lai tai is completely Shan, it was never part of Thai martial arts. i have been all over the region and trained with everyone. the shan lai tai is a codefied martial arts system. Bokator is a codefied martial arts system. Muay Boran is not. i think it is a deadly fighting art, but it is not a codefied system, each teacher just teaches what he wants or what he knows. and muay boran has almost no connection to Lai tai.
brooklynmonk1 3 years ago
for all you khmer who think thais never had thier own fighting style check this video out in youtube Martial Arts Odyssey : Lai Tai(Part 1) its the shan or in thai language the tai yai tribes who are ancestor of the thai from china. there fore thais didnt steal your kun khmer.
Nakorn24 3 years ago
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no wonder khmer got thier ass whoop back then this fighting style horrible.
Nakorn24 3 years ago
hello i'm khmer, i would know where is the master samkin sean, i'm a 100% khmer ^^ and very pasionated by Bokator, 'cause, i think, is the better martial arts in the world, thanks for reply
FraGerX3 3 years ago
i cant believe while watching this clip, my tears run down cus m so proud of being khmer. It is so amazing how Khmer have so many history and culture, obstacle and challenges Khmer pple faced, and yet we are still strong.
lbkhgirl 3 years ago 5
muay boran is slightly changing it styles to take down now. seeing bokator at its complete form, they're going to copy and do the same
AngKoRiaN1 3 years ago
bokator's so cool!!
yaboyzloveu 3 years ago
bokator's cool!!!
yaboyzloveu 3 years ago