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  • Wow, hes admitting to every issue... but still trying to sell everybody.

  • Medicare is running up the cost for everyone else. Please study Supply and Demand

    Doctors should pick their prices not HMOs.

  • "A star is born" Hahaha! That's a golden statement in hindsight. He was like the Paul Ryan for liberals before he started sexting on his wife...

  • I totally trust Manning and Breitbart, Corsi. Elder says lots of things right. As far as the rest, I feel they are clueless coons that can't run a shoeshine stand. obama is a homosexual, illegal porch monkey. That can't be denied. He must be imprisoned, then sent back to whatever country will take him. Him and his fat, ugly wife are dogshit. She must also be imprisoned for fraud. Go to: Rick Wiles. Susan Daniels. Jerome Corsi. Go to: Her Name is Ms Ann. Explains everything

  • @Petekiv

    Yeah, you're not racist any... No wonder you "totally trust" a bunch of dimwited morons--you morons have got to stick together!

  • what a terrible lineup. go to a black barbershop they would hook your shit up

  • Wow, what a pajorative pile of liberal trash.

  • Great guy, I really like him. Wish he could keep his wiener off Twitter, damn man!

  • Lol! Teabaggers pwned!  If Republicans dont like health care vote against they should vote down medicare! Put up or shut up Byatchez. This man is too intelligent for DC.

  • WEINER for President!

  • 4:45 guy looks like a high school student bout to go to sleep at bottom of screen

  • I only missed the ''Motherfucker'' at the end of the sentence..

    ..

    I dare ya! I double dare ya, MOTHERFUCKER!!

    Come aaahn, bring it on, bitchaz!!!

    RAAAAAAAAAAHG!! lol :P

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  • DISREGARD WOMEN, ACQUIRE CURRENCY

  • @p51Aracing Money Over Bitches M.O.B

  • @mooseinator194 hell yea

  • i double dare you ? democraps are forever in grade school with their thinking

  • I want to move to New York just to have the honor of voting for that guy.

    If all the democrats had his balls, this era of rightwing political & ideological idiocy would soon come to an end.

  • @VeryEvilPettingZoo Well. Corporations buy Democrats too, unfortunately.

  • @VeryEvilPettingZoo I don't know about his balls, but pretty much anybody can get a picture of his junk these days! lol

  • No intelectuals here- keep searching

  • @oliveoy1002

    You are what's wrong with this country. Your ignorance is a model, for every reason why nothing is accomplished in this country for the greater good of it's masses. Now, you will come back and argue something very palin-esque, that's off point, further proving your lack of logical understanding. Grow a brain, or better yet, a heart....

  • i guess i just shouldnt argue with one-sided liberals.

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  • i guess i just shouldnt argue with one-sided liberals.

  • Well, the Republicans double-dared. They did, pal. And now after Nov. 2nd 2010, you see who's got the pie in their eye.

  • I double dare you and the young jerks to grow a set of NUTS..

  • seriously?! i mean...SERIOUSLY?!?! WE SHOULD NOT NEED TO DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR OUR HEALTHCARE!!!! PAY FOR YOUR OWN DAMN HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!! the rich pay their fare share of taxes!!!! THEY WORK HARD FOR THEIR MONEY!!! follow their example!!! WHY, if we are in a recession, do we want our government to SPEND more money, TAX us more, just to make themselves more powerful?!?! if you think government controled healthcare sounds good....go to Canada and ask them how they like their healthcare.

  • @oliveoyl002 I was paying for my own health insurance, it was about 1/3rd of my paycheck and when I finally needed medical services I was denied because of an unrelated preexisting condition. Yea what a great system that is... btw, every Canadian I know doesn't whine about their stress free healthcare, but are terrified of vacationing to the US without travelers insurance because they might get hurt and end up with tens of thousands in medical bills.

  • @LemUUU did you know a typical wait in Canadian ER's are anywhere from 2-48 hours...and thats just to have a doctor assess the damage! not treat it! obviously if the doctors dont get paid as much, they wont do as good of a job...common sense right there.

  • @oliveoyl002 thats a big myth...emergency care is handled very well in canada

  • @oliveoyl002

    Canada's love their health care, your ignoramus.

  • @oliveoyl002

    I am a Canadian. We love our health care. Your problem is that all Americans think that they can all be rich, if only they work hard - right? Wrong. Only about 1% of ANY country will ever be truly wealthy. That's how capitalism works. In a healthy society we all take care of one another. Figure it out.

  • Amazing how republicans oppose "stealing people's money" and "coersion" for medical care, but are fine with tax financed war. Major tax financed wars.

  • He has my first name :D.

  • The Republicans took Weener up on his dare: then he complained because they did. Weener is a good name for this weak little man.

  • @SoutherngentFL when was this? are you delusional?

  • @SoutherngentFL show your facts little boy

  • I bet this Wiener had his mom walk him to school from pre-school through high school.

    I double dare you!

    Whew!!!

    I 'm just glad he didn't whine "I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!"

  • I understand that it's too easy for me to criticize American media in general (because I know how hard the debate is when you've got crazies like FOX calling everything socialism or communism or worse babykilling lol), but I honestly do think that if people like Weiner get more attention, they would get elected in America cause it's obvious that more votes would go to the liberals if the debate would become civil and serious. The voter turnout needs to be higher in the USA.

  • I hope that, at some point, Wiener runs for president. And I REALLY hope that his running mate's last name is Bunnz (or a similar spelling). XD

  • ANTHONY WEINER FOR PRESIDENT!!!

  • @daniel64012 Anthony weiner 2012! :D

  • If the healthcare bankrupts America, we just need to own it.

  • Mr Smith goes to Washington.

  • Weiner look like u like to put up a good fight- it had to be said, tks

  • With the possible exceptions of President Obama and President Clinton....Rep Weiner is my favorite politician right now. This guy is ruthless in his arguments and passion.

  • We need a President with this kind of passion and balls to take it to the repu"block"ans!LOL

  • Anthony Weiner is my new pretend boyfriend!

    "I dare ya. I double dare ya!"

  • @ctwriter me 2!!!! ha ha

  • why do people even support republicans?

    anti change, anti green power, anti healtcare, anti science, anti evolution, anti gay marriage

    pro global warming, pro coal and oil, pro jesus in the white house, pro creationism, they are hyprocrites who rather see obama fail then at the expense of the people.

    seriously? who are supporting these dumbasses? they are againts everything a smart logical person is for. why are they even running our country?

  • @ricefarmer they are running our country because the majority of Americas are sitting in their fucking coaches and not doing shit!!! We need to organized and make this economy works for everyone and not for the minority

  • @cesarojas182 and i bet repub. helping corrupted giant corps fuck over the middle class helps too right?

  • @ricefarmer I agree... It is much better that the Government fucks over the middle class... GO OBAMA!

  • @ricefarmer haha ur obama has fucked up america more than bush. how does that make you feel?

  • @zjumps33 How has Obama Fucked up America more then bush? please elaborate.

  • @zjumps33

    Your assertion underscores the nation's dope problem: we have too many dopes, and most of them vote Republican.

  • @ricefarmer i totally agree with you but i dont know about trusting democrats neither as i see more info in the Web

  • @ricefarmer

    Very well said ricefarmer.... VERY well said....

  • @ricefarmer Why does anyone support the false left right paradigm? Obama continues the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He continued the republican policy of bolstering the rich and elite. The taxpayers where given all the liabilities while the central banks and corporations walk away with liquidity. Also in Obama Care five thousand pages of toilet paper. None of you republicans or democrats realize that your parties are nothing more than corporate puppets.

  • @vindicato15 Thank You for bringing some common sense to this discussion. I was going to say about the same thing you did but then I came across your lovely comment. God Bless You!!

  • @TheMethadoneParty Well it's the truth. As a pastor friend of mine often says if the shoe fits wear it!

  • @vindicato15 lol exactly

  • @vindicato15 got it right

  • @dhamildo I thank God daily that my eyes are opened to the truth. Peace.

  • @vindicato15 The truth from TYT? Yikes. I hope yer young and not yet ready to expose yourself to contracts 'cause if you think this is the truth then you are putting yourself seriously at risk for some major dissappiontment.

    Government should handle security(military, health, disaster, personal) and taxation to pay for those services. Let the market decide everything else. When ANYONE tries to do to many things they ultimately fail! Government is definitely not an exception to this rule.

  • @chillichomper Are you a idiot? who says that TYT gave me any truth. I pointed out that in reality neither party has any credibility. In other words TYT is as full of ofal as any other partisan hack from either party.

  • @ricefarmer simple explanation a conservative is anti change the majority of people fear change of those people most vote republican so essentially republicans= paranoid/cowards

  • @cloudvszell oh really? Republicans are paranoid cowards? is that why war veterans are more likely to vote republican than dem? you think war vets are cowards? I'd like to see you wriggle your way out of this one pal because your statement made noooooo sense.

  • @TheCommando962011 Vets will vote for the party who will take care of them and keep their benefits secure. You do know that republicans voted down a bill that would provide healthcare for the 9/11 firefighters and cleanup crews right?

  • @kr4yzi32k Not only that, but they blocked health care for 911 First Responders for YEARS. Like the minimum wage, unemployment benefits, the Fair Pay Act, subpoena power to investigate BP & Halliburton..the very long list goes on.

    Republicans simply don’t give a shit about anyone not in the top 2%.

    VOTE DEMOCRAT 2012

  • @demmmmm1 Yea, its sad that when people go to clean up a mess that the government brought on the American people they won't even cover them. When Ron Paul talks about blowback, he is exactly right. We have been in Iraq for 10 yrs building structures bigger than the vatican. We are occupying their territory and for what? If a foreign country came over here and tried to do the same thing we would send every man woman and child with a gun to the front lines. Its pathetic.

  • @kr4yzi32k I agree. I recall hearing our leaders then say things like “We’ll be in and out of Iraq in 6 weeks.” and “We’re not building permanent bases,” etc. At the same time, they were building the new Embassy - around the size of Vatican City. Shameful. The whole thing.

  • @ricefarmer so we can get rid of people with no morals, no values like you, moron

  • @ricefarmer They are running this country????!!!!! Last I checked they JUST became a majority in the house in January 2011! Before that the house, the senate and the president were in power and they are ALL democrats I believe. Are you so blinded by the B.S. the press spews that you don't even know the status of your own countrys' government???.

    As far as this double dare goes I would be perfectly happy and remorseless voting against obama care.

  • @chillichomper You would vote against obamacare but you probably would vote for ryancare which would leave over 1.7 million children without health insurance and would screw anyone 55 and under. Not to mention that over the years the vouchers for seniors will remain the same price but cover less. I bet you would feel remorse if it were you losing your health care and not being able to survive you selfish bigot.

  • @ricefarmer Since when are Republicans anti-change???!!! Anti dumb ass decisions yes but not anti change.

    Anti science??? Show me where. Anti evolution??? Do you think anyone who's been to college is really anti evolution?! Do you really believe all republicans are illiterate noobs? Anti green power? Sure if the alternative ends up creating more waste and is less energy efficient.

    Its ok to disagree but don't be a patsy to the press 'cause it just make you look ignorant & uninformed.

  • @chillichomper Republicans are like school children not getting their way. Government shutdown?! Tornado victims in Joplin have to fend for themselves because we don't have money to help you. Eric Cantor said that and he is republican. Republicans only want to help themselves, big corporations, and noone else. They are voting no on everything because we have a democratic president. Bush was allowed to put us in a war under the false pretenses of WMDs and noone said shit. Wake up dumbass.

  • @ricefarmer it's true that they're retards on social issues. People either tend to ignore that and continue their tirade or divert their attention to their 'superior' fiscal viewpoints.

  • it all over for this country noone can agree to even the most simple shit. Every man for himself! see being a repubtard can be fun.

  • Repu"block"ans, can be used in reference to their unwillingness to work in a non-partisan manner, or....it can simply be referring to the shapes of their heads.

  • republicans aint blocking nothing they dont even have to show up dems got control of both houses..

  • The republicans are blocking things! They have used more blocks in the past year than in 50 years!

  • If they don't like government-run free healthcare, they need to opt out of their own plans, give it to someone who needs it, and then opt into a plan that they actually have to pay for out of their own pockets instead of ours.

  • FUKIN A!!

    I am in luv with this congressman. He has had the best statement so far. If he is in your state. Please re-elect him. you did a great job the first time

  • KUDOS to Congressman Weiner!!!!!

  • "proud" of a congressman for proposing useless legislation that he himself opposes, that has no chance of getting passed, and wastes the house's time.....that is just ridiculous

  • U missed the whole point its not useless or a waste of time for a dem to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that republicans are only against a gov health care plan when it feeds their relection.Weiner was 100% right if the republic party is against gov run health care then why didnt they vote for the amendment and get rid of medicare.Or the VA.Typical non thinking republicans bitch about government idocy and then bash somone who actually tries to get some honesty in the debate.

  • I love it when republicans say we cant pay for it because they ran up the budget with insane crap like the war in Iraq. Where were they during the trillions of dollars in defecit spent by Bush?

  • Totally agree!

  • A Democrat with some chutzpah. Who duh thunk it?

  • His district in NYC

  • Hmm... I hate to break it to you, but medicare is nearly bankrupt as it is. How is this Congressmen going to get any money to pay for it (or the public option) when we are now over $14 trillion in debt?

  • Medicare is not nearly bankrupt. Not even close.

  • haha that was AWESOME

  • thats why we have a legislative branch of government, they make laws, based off of their constitutional legality. if by what your saying you can only make laws based off exactly what the constitution says literally, then we wouldnt have most laws we have today. drunk driving? well they didnt have cars back then, so lets get hammered and kill someone in my truck because its unconstitutional to say that i cant. get what im saying?

  • They can make laws they want as long as it does not limit someones rights or they are not prohibited to do so. Drunk driving makes people many times more likely to crash their car causing harm to others to that is why they can ban it. If your actions inflict harm on others than the government can do something about it.

  • Why dont the republicans show the dems the part of the constitution that says to enter a treaty with another country like IRAQ is an amendment to the constitution and requires a two thirds vote. You know the US military is not supposed to be invading occupying and then democratizing a foreign country without having a vote on it as a treaty.But the republicans thought Bush and jesus played gold together so thats ok

  • For one the US congress approved the Iraq war so I don't know what you are trying to say. And two how do you play gold?

  • The Us congress could also approve health care.And Im sorry GOLF."The republican party belived that bush and god played GOLF".Sorry 4 the misspel

  • Yes but the Constitution does not allow them the power to create a government run health care system.

  • Meanwhile why Fox's and Limbaughs ratings rise and righty's and left's go on rants and protest for complete non issues.People like me the commen sense hard working people are going to get fucked big time.While u and I sit around arguing about whether regulating the health care industry over the next 5 yrs the cost of it will go up 200% and we will both blame eacotheher.I hop we can have a drink togeather before fox limbaugh convinses u its ok to kill librals their bad people

  • The government as a whole is broken and corrupt. They continue to spend trillions of dollars while borrowing 50% of it. Before inflation can be stopped and prices stabalized we have to end government spending. The government is too massive and has become a burden on the population. In order to pay for all of Obama's programs the Federal Reserve is printing paper dollars like crazy. That makes the dollar extremely unstable. It will not last much longer at the rate Obama is printing it.

  • People on the right love to talk about blacks playin the race card and then the same people like palin and limbaugh play the victim over everything.You love to talk about the left wing media like anyone who doesent swear that obama was born in kenya and snuggles everynite with william ayres is in obama's pocket.When during the bush era did anyone on msnbc simulate poising the speaker of the house,When did anyone other than fuckin kanye west call the prez a racists on national tv.

  • Also to claim that obama has spent 9 trillion in 9 months is an absolute and complete utter fuucking LIE. Right now the entire national debt ialmost 12 trill not quite it was 10.7 trill the day he took office.Where did u learn ur math skills.And yes some NOT ALL of that is do to left over bush problems like the tarp 760 billion of which so far I think its like 60 billion has been paid back.but PASSED UNDER BUSH.

  • Now the declaration of Independence does provide you with LIFE, Liberty and the persuit of happiness.I would think most people would be on the side of helping all americans with the first 2.And I mean 4 everyone not just those the rich.If the right wants to act as tho rizing cost is not a major problem I would have them call my boss who informed us that this year my health care plan went up 28% and that no body was getting a raise or cost of living increase due to the increase in HInsurnce

  • The Declaration of Independance has nothing to do with the governing of this country. The whole point of the document is in the name. It was the Constitutional Congress declaring independance from the British Empire.

    Everything is going up in price. Should the government open up a grocery chain to help those who cannot afford food? Should the government open its own oil company and refineries due to the cost of fuel? Where is the end point for this?

  • Receiving chemotherapy is NOTHING like shopping for groceries or buying gas for your car you fucking idiot.

  • Oh so you can survive without food? You must be Superman then.

  • The gov't does help people buy food. It's called food stamps.

    Ask ur mom about it.

  • My mom said go suck a dick.

    The government does give people health care. It's called Medicade and Medicare. Also county hospitals are subsidized by the Federal Government to provide free health care.

  • There are A LOT of uninsured and under-insured Americans who do not qualify for Medicade or Medicare. THEY are the ones who need the relief provided by an affordable public option.

    And free county hospitals my ass! Ur obviously a shameless liar.

    Face it, ur argument sucks balls. Thats why you have to make shit up. Now go grab some scissors and run down the nearest staircase.

  • First of all the 46 million number includes the millions of illegal immigrants. Another large group is young adults that are in good health so insurance is seen as an uneccessary cost.

    My sister is a nurse and worked at a county hospital. She would tell me abou it all the time.

  • Alot of the debt being attributed to obamas first year is because of leftovers from the bush admin.FACT Bear sturn, JP morgan chase,AIG,leman marcus,and the tarp fund all went thru while bush was in office.But u say obama's prgrams are breaking us.I could go on and on about this but even the wildest left wing health care reforms like single payer they say would cost around a 1 trill.Thats 1 trill in 10 years 100 billion a year.

  • Right now if you turn on fox news u are likely to see dana perino and karl rove not as representatives of the bush admin or the republican party no these people on fox are the fair and balanced news correspondence.Could you imagine what fox would say if david pluff or axellrod or james carville were on the payroll of msnbc and nightly commentators.Left WING MEDIA?right now Limbaugh is judging ms usa and TOM DELAY(under inditment)is on dancing with the freakin stars

  • If you want to go ahead and add budget deficiets for the next 10 year projetions then u might be right but as far as I know we never attributed debt to a prez because of budget projections(i.e.shit that hasent happened yet)if we did then all presidents would have much bigger debt nmbrs and ur guy bush's would be even more than the half of all National debt that is his now.10 year Bdget projecons chnge every year thats.And obama did come into ofice in a huge economic cotastropy not of his making.

  • Do you understand how insurance works? Of course young healthy people must buy into the system; otherwise there wouldn't be any money in the pool when they actually needed it. That's why you should ignore the republican bullshit about eliminating state lines in the insurance market.

  • what does buying across state lines has to do anything with young people forced to buy insurance?

    Actually, the contrary might be true...if the youth finds that they get cheaper buying across state lines, more young ones will buy them...Ha ha!

  • Some states have regulations that prevent insurance companies from discriminating against sick people; some states don't. Insurance is cheaper in states that don't regulate because companies there only cover healthy people. Insurance, of course, is useless if ur NOT sick.

    Young/healthy people would readily buy deregulated insurance, which means they are no longer putting premiums toward sick people, which means sick people can no longer afford healthcare, which means the system crashes.

  • If last year an apple cost a dollar and this year it cost 1.35 and continued to go up at 35%a year for 15 to yo years then yes gov would have to come in to regulate food costs.If gasoline went up 35%a year every year for 15 to 20 years gov would have to do something to secure the transit system in our country.Inflation and price increses r going to happen but when their is clear evidence that major parts of american industry are lobbying to make it ok to rape us it our elected rep's that

  • right now we have about 12 trillion in debt when the last republican came in office it was 4.7 trillion when he left it was 10.7 trillion that means that half of this nations debt right now belongs to one REPUBLICAN pres who had a REPUBLICAN majority in both houses and did not veto a single bill untill after 2006 when the dems had a one seat majority and bush vetoed almost everything.And yes some of the debt attributed to obama is do to left over bush era programs.

  • I am still pissed off at Bush. Still Obama is a big boy who has been in office for almost a year and needs to stop blaming Bush for spending money. The bank bailouts, auto bailouts, Cash for Clunkers and all the other shit he has done has had no positive effect. He sits there telling CEOs they cannot make large profits because they took tax payer money but he still gets paid to do his job while creating a $9.2 trillion in 9 months.

  • If you ask any righty right now they will say this whole mess is Clinton and Obama fault.They will even tho we just had a 12 year REPUBLICAN majority and 8 years of bush.The right constently says this is because of the repeel of glass-stegleman under clinton they either do not know or dont say that Glass stehgal was reapled by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999, 4 REPUBLICANS.The community reinvestment act under carter was amped up 2 almost complete deregulation under bush.

  • And whats worse is these same god dam tea baggers out there bitchin about debt and tax burdens on future generations do have a point about the gov as a whole.But obama;s been in office 9 monthsThese same fuckers are the ones that fawned over the bush tax cuts 95% of witch went 2 2% of the population.he Started two wars and completely shit on the constitution on a daily basis and these people saluted and applauded their way into these problems and now want to blame the librals and the niggers.

  • Kew Gardens Is Fuckin Gay.

  • Unfortunatly Medicare is only for those who refuse to work. We need a plan for those who work but can't afford healthcare. Those who fall through the cracks.

  • Umm, what?? Medicare/aid is not necessarily for those who "refuse" to work, it's for those who can't afford or don't have insurance at the time of injury.That's ridiculous to say "refuse to work", are you gonna tell that to the millions of fixed income elderly people who CAN'T work??? MedicAid is what you can get if you make too much money to get free insurance but enough to pay for basic coverage. People fall through the cracks because they are uninformed about access to Medicare and Medicaid.

  • He "double dared" them, and never gave them a chance to vote for it, and then said ha, you didnt do it. so for all we know, they did vote for it. republicans are already outnumbered so do you know how hard it is to argue with 5 people at once...

    and by the way, all the shit you guys put out is propaganda.

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  • WOW, does he really know anything about health care? Like most government run systems these entities are completely BANKRUPT

  • Really? Do you work for the government? Do you work for Medical, Medicare or any other government run system? Obviously not. Stop listening to propaganda and take the time to research the truth.

  • I don't have to work for the government to know that medicare is bankrupt

  • Actually Medicare is not bankrupt. If conservatards like you continue to guide our policy it might get to that.

  • medicare is doomed to die - trillions in unfunded liabilities

  • Wrong! I worked for medical and medicare and your listening to lies. Political chicken littles.

  • OK put the uninsured on Medicaid.end of problem right? No need for Gubment to screw with everybody elses insurance..

  • What about those who supposedly have insurance but are refused treatment when they most need it?

    What about those who work in a place they hate just because it pays health insurance?

    What about everybody's right for healthcare?

  • Weiner and Cenk for president and vice president.

  • well said!

  • Medicare for all, is this wages due and owed to the laboring class?  For we Americans do own half the wealth on earth, and 60% of us do have excessive wealth, which is greedy and ungodly wealth plundered from underdeveloped nations.

  • Yeah a lot of people don't realize the development of the west coincides with the underdevelopment of the "3rd" world.

  • This debate is not about healthcare reform ..it is about health insuranec reform

    Doctors/nurses in govt managed HC systems are as good as in private ones. It is the govt. mismanagement we are worried about!

    BTW, according to govt data itself (how ironic!) Medicare, Medicaid,social security will history in a few years...so how come govt. managed Medicare model is being propagated!?

    As they say there are no failed govt programs ...only under-funded ones ...LOL

  • Govt. managed HC plan in Britain led expansion of their system such that it is now the 3rd largest employer (after Chinese army and Indian Railways). Any talk about change to remove inefficiencies leads to talks about loss of livelihood/jobs. We DONT want to link quality of HC with loss of livelihood. U cannot provide the best since that may involve removing off inefficient departments. A double whammy! Thats downright immoral.

  • People here this trillion dollar tag on health care reform and think thats its can all be due the day the bill passes.We are talking about 1 trillion over 10 years.The war in Iraq has cost over a trillion in 8 yrs.Yes thats right we could do and pay for the most far left wing health care proposals like single payer just by pulling out of Iraq.Hmm do we want to spen a trillion a decade to kill civillians in Iraq or save civillians in the US.We might starve cheny but Im ok with that

  • Obama clearly mentioned that he either will introduce newtaxes or get the money from other avenues for any universal plan. Americans pay enough in taxes, how an added tax can help?

    The govt. managed programs like Medicare, etc have proven to be financially not sustainable. Given this and the track-record of govt. performance of managing health-care for the last 40+ years, how can the govt. role be promoted to handle health-care for all Americans?

  • But Medicare is BROKE!

    So how come is it efficient?!

  • is there a video of this does know medicare is government run dude on youtube ... if someone could link me that id be oh so happy

  • I double dare you motherfucker, say death panels one more god damn time.

  • Obama admits he has great medical as well as congress, but they struck down the amendment that would have opted the same coverage for them as we would receive. DOUBLE FUCKING STANDARD. LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I want to buy into Medicare.

    After paying Blue Cross for 35 years I have no health insurance when I change jobs.

  • Regarding "You make me laugh"

    No: Nobody is proposing gov't run health care system.

    We are proposing that we keep our current doctors and hospitals, and simplify *payment* with a Medicare-like system, which has proven to be 10 times more efficient than private insurance.

  • we already have gov't run health care. the gov't -indirectly-controls what is produced and for whom it is produced. all this bill does is it takes it to the next level. the problems will just get worse. the solution to problems created by gov't controlling health care will not be solved by more gov't control of h-care.

    and your claim that medicare is more efficient proves only that you either don't know what medicare is, or you don't know what efficient is. $2.8 billion of waste isn't efficient.

  • You make me laugh. Now we have gov't run health care system, and it's broken. Whats your solution? More gov't. A little more of the thing that causes the problem and the problem will go away. How about giving the free market a shot? It works so well for so many other industries.

  • Medicare isn't broken, we simply reached a point where we have 78,000,000 baby boomers retiring and thus going ON medicare after Bush just drove us trillions into debt to pay for a war against innocent people. Medicare may not be perfect, but its better than letting our elders die in the street. The free market HAD a shot in this country, and they are FAILING, this is WHY it needs to be reformed. USA is only #37 in health care, behind all the SOCIALIZED MEDICINE countries!

  • learn your facts before medicare people weren't dieing on the street. if we had a truly free and competitive market prices would be lower so every one could afford health care. but we don't because of excessive regulation and ridicules gov't mandates.

  • You see, you've been tricked by the right-wing into thinking that, but have no real evidence of it. Can you name me a few of these mandates please?

  • did you know that in NY insurance companies have to cover breast reductions? that just raises the cost of premiums for everyone, so insurance becomes less affordable. while i'm sure most these kinds of mandates were made with good intentions, there are unintended results that end up hurting those you are trying to help.

  • "if we had a truly free and competitive market prices would be lower so every one could afford health care. "

    My 92 year old grandmother s on medicare. She lives in a nursing home and has no money. Would a "free market" system give her the medicine she requires for free?

  • buddy, her medicine isn't free. someone is paying for it. i don't know what kind of community you live in or what sort of church you go to, but suppose all your family, friends and neighbors were all sobs and refused to help you out, are you suggesting that forcing them to pay at gun point is a more fair system?

  • My grandfather already paid for it. He was a WWII vet and he worked every day of his life. He paid his taxes. Are you suggesting that old people who can't afford their medicine should be allowed to die in the streets? How many of your relatives and neighbors are you buying medicine for? I'm saying that basic health care is a RIGHT. It shouldn't be doled out according to ability to pay.

  • nobody is talking about taking away veteran's benefits and nobody is talking about having people die in the streets. why aren't you upset that we don't give old people free food and clothes, without that they would "die in the streets?"

    medicare isn't free you and i pay for it every time we get paid the gov't takes a bite out of your paycheck before we even get to see it. maybe if we got our entire paycheck we would have more savings so we could afford better health care when we're older.

  • UNTRUE -- UNTRUE -- UNTRUE

    FALSE LOGIC: Because people "die on the streets" for more reasons then one, because of that we should not have public charity healthcare.

    Medicare is free to the laboring class, those to who we pay starving wages, those who do all our hard and undesirable labor.

    Gut question: Are we given an ability to earn more then we deserve as a test, to see if we pass the excessive wealth down to those less fortunate where it belongs?