@MajiinBuuuu Better yet how can we ever hope for the world to progress as a whole when we have mothafuckin stupid asses like you showing racism.. Educate yourself and don't be an ignorant, and stop talking out ya ass..
I'm an architecture student at Marywood university and I'm a Mixtec Indio "people of he rain place" of Oaxaca Mexico. No I don't consider or want to be looked at as a 'Latino or Hispanic ' I will always identify myself with the indigenous group because even within our country my people get discriminated. I'm native all the way.
@MajiinBuuuu what does world progression actually mean? your view of world progression is different from the next person's. And the world progressing in your eyes may seem to be the world going backwards in another person's eyes. "World progression" is not universally agreed as one idea.
And people wonder why Europeans were and are the most successful.. well we moved on from that kind of living thousands yrs. ago..I don't think Europeans even had these kind of wild things.. Man had to kill animals, and learn how to fight to become men and women to learn how to cook and make food, be healthy to being a child in the world... not this crap
@EuropeanGuy87 Right because NO WHITE people do "crappy" tribal/cultural things, right? May I remind you of Middle Age Fairs, Cowboy festivals, and, worst of all, L.A.R.P. Live Avatar Role Playing.
@EuropeanGuy87 Europeans don't have cultural ceremonies that celebrate someone's rite of passage? What are baptisms and confirmations and christenings and First Holy Communion? Study your own history before you write things that are so very wrong. What makes you think Apache don't teach life skills? The fact that they are here in the present day means they did pretty well before the Europeans came along, which means their culture worked for them before their world was turned upside down.
@EuropeanGuy87 if you look at history straight up, white men were a bunch of dicks going around the world taking advantage of other people's good nature and ignorance... and their "success" had a lot to do with the contributions of other cultures... people arent taking their shit anymore and are rising up, so basically European "success" isnt gonna last much longer and i hope your ignorant ass is ready for that
@mostercreature As long as there is Russians, Germans, French etc .there is NO CHANCE - and especially since Chinese, Japanese would be the only massive threat, they technically arent because we get along well and they are civilized etc.. but Africans by all means they will always be inferior, they never will be on top that's certain 100% ..plus nobody likes blacks - Even Middle Eastern is racist toward them ... it's quite sad.. ;)
@mostercreature I'm going to ask you a question ! Blacks have dark skin, and there is nothing wrong with that, because their black skin evolved because they live in very warm weather for so long. Now what you think would happen if you bring a bunch of black people in Norway and let them there eat normally - what do you think they won't survive for to long ? It's same if you bring a redhead with pale white skin in the desert..the sun will kill a redhead in Africa without solar protection
Are there any full-blood native americans left? My history professor told our class that the real (dark-skinned, as he referred to them) full blood native american people are all extinct and that all native american descendants have at least some dna from one other race (usually white). Is this really true?
@h4tch3txkill4 ok great to hear! Because i disagreed with my teacher and she said that the modern natives today look very different than before. She showed me picture of natives in the old days, and I have to say, they looked very indiginous (black skin, a bit like the natives from south america). so she challenged to find a picture from a modern native that is 100%. Mabe I could get your picture to show her (maybe a weird wuestion). So do you live on the rez too or have you moved there?
i wish most of America would have better Rites of Passage than most of the Vain ones Society has 4 us-ones that would actually Teach character and Integrity.
Blessings to Morning Star Feather and her people. The way of native people is steeped in ancient tradition and meaning. Whites would do well to learn more about these ways and native people should encourage those of all color who seek this wisdom. Native people should also not lose their connection to their tradition because this knowledge only survives in those who live it and embrace it.
*Part 2* Good rite of passage And the reason they paint her is that their welcoming a new women to the tribe. And the reason they don't show the girls dancing in the Big Tepee is because its very sacred. But they dance all night on the last night. They don't dance non stop they have breaks so she can rest ect. When girl's have this cerm, they have to be pure. So that's why our culture is vanishing. And I would explane the rest but the rest is very sacred But I hope this helped you guys out a lil
*Part 1* First, they miss lots of other info that's why you guys keeping having questions. The reason her mother prepared for years is because everything has a meaning. And she get's her dress made for her. She doesn't were hand me downs. They all don't have to have their comming of age cerm they can have it alone. But the 4th is the big one where lot of ppl come. And if she was allergic to pollen she would still proceed with it.Her medicine women will bless her so her so it would be a...
There's such rich heritages throughout North America. It annoys me how historians/archeologists/sociologists, and the such, ignores and overlooks it.
They'll go to Egypt, China or Mexico before even giving a thought to the pyramids in Ohio, the adobe ruins throughout the Southwest or the township remains in the East. It's refreshing to see this video.
I too am more Apache, my grandmother was a shaman, I understand wanting to learn the indian ways. I am an adult and attempt to learn more and our ways as well and attempt to embrace my gift, everydays is a struggle without her by myside. Stay strong.
@DrMMHMD Why does youtube draw the dumbest people to comment? Oh yes, because you have no credited voice anywhere else. Like what is your point. Make a point. Justify what you are saying right now. The biggest demographic on welfare are whites. Welfare accounts for like maybe 5 cents off your paycheck while military spending is ridiculous. You think you are clever or unique with this harassment? You are just duped into thinking the way they want you to think. You ignore the power. your loss.
@Britfan06 Go head Britfan, I do to. I want to turn that credit into something more substantial. do you ever feel that way? God, I will do what I can but I dream of buying land and giving it away, though maybe that is naive. giving it back. I stand at night and just imagine life in a tight knit community before all the crap came and I am so sad for what has been largely lost, though as we see not totally. The spiritual legacy of indigenous peoples in North America is so substantial.
@ninasooz wow. It's good that it is this important to you. I think it would be a nice personal symbolic gesture. It's people like you, me, and almost everyone who commented on this video to help the Native's keep their pride and help others to understand their importance. They are doing a find job themselves, not discrediting them at all, but the more the merrier and I think we can all embrace in that.
@rhankinson86 i'm taking an Anthropology of Religion class and my teacher explained to me that though many native americans believe in worshipping spirits and such, many also have adopted their own religious beliefs, usually accepting Christ.
Everybody is ill, everybody is in pain, even God had a rest after making the Earth in seven days. I didn't think there were any Apaches. I think it's good that there are. I'm very happy to have seen an Apache girl doing such a ritual. I saw a film, A Man Called Horse, but this is prettier.
Shout out to Northern cheyennes! I respect the apache and their history. I'm sixteen and I've completed my tribes rite of passage for boys and which we really don't call it that. I've already chosen my wife and hope she will bear alot of children.
@kaeldi2010 ppl there are supporting her. Espescially the medicine woman. (who is my auntie in this video) if the girl cant do it then the medicine will do it. and she can still marry.
I AM PROUD TO BE AN APACHE WOMAN MY LAST NAME HAS A POWERFULL MEANING ..A-N-AY-A (LAST MAN STANDING ...) WE STILL EXSIST WE R STILL STANDING AND ALWAYS WILL B ......WHITE FEATHER ...
Aho good one! As a young Xicano from Colorado I am happy to have seen this in my life. They even put me and my Barrio Warrior bros to work out there, they were real good to us. It is a beautiful thing to witness, just regret not able to make the run in the morning. Hopefully I'll be back one day. Blessings to all
used to be that only elder women were involved in the young woman rituals-so as to not mix male energy which wd interfere with the female power-shows how now with the doing away of the womens clan longhouses- men even trespass on womens rites-return to iroquois women (see spittal) will restore safety for women & children-& do away w need for profits from selling weapons making wars & overpopulation caused by religious leaders worldwide
I experienced this ceremony in 1976. It was one of the most profound experiences of my life. I was not allowed to be close and see things as this video show. I am in tears of joy and connection to all my relations as I watch. Thank you, Mescalero, for opening yourselves and your sacred ways. I hope to go back to Mescalero soon and witness these sacred ways from different eyes. Aho.
compared with the dark and demonic african tribal tradition of human and animals sacrifices,such as the infliction of pains and torments.the tradition above is mild.symbolic and beautiful,no blood or torments involved,however on wheather u will turn up to be a good human..in mind,it is all up to the individuals
at least True Indians don't kill their own kind and pull out hair or make someone throw up or bleed(they don't torture their own kind as a so called ritual)
this was not so bad. compared to everything else i have seen from different cultures
I am part Apache, my husband and i want more then anything to live and love there i need to learn my Indian ways, i missed my cerm for women hood, i am now and elder. having lost my ability to bear children, i want to do my sun dance.and meet with the medicine man. i am very ill having had 11 surg to my spine and body. i suffer in pain all the time. i want more then anything to be with my people. my husband is in the casino ind for 13 yrs now. we want to move there. to heal and work Aho Bear
@hollybearable Im sorry to hear to this...My prayers are wit you...I am full Apache and my family strong in our tradition and ceremonies...I hope our prayers can bring some comfort to yo and your family.
@brttbrry no the reason we lost our land is because of the freaking WHITE PEOPLE had to come over here and be greedy!! if it wasn't for us then white people would've died. but we ended up dying from the freaking white disease! so if u don't know the real reason then don't talk
@brttbrry no the reason we lost our land is because of the freaking WHITE PEOPLE had to come over here and be greedy!! if it wasn't for us then white people would've died. but we ended up dying from the freaking white disease! so if u don't know the real reason then don't talk!
Viewers may be interested in learning about historical Apache warrior women. Lozen was the most legendary. She was Victorio's sister, a Warm Springs Chiricahua woman who chose the warrior path during her rite of passage ceremony. She was both a fierce warrior and a shaman with psychic abilities. Dahteste was an important fellow female warrior. GOOGLE can lead you to many articles about these amazing women. Their stories should be known.
@CSFLY77 Right now I'm reading a book about Lozen. It has been so hard to find it here in Italy. It's amazing that there are so little information about her, maybe because she was so important to the people that they wanted to protect her. It seems that even Geronimo never spoke about her. Next august I'll go to South West and I'm trying so hard to learn as much as possible about history, culture and daily life of native people.That's way I read many comments in the web. Sorry for my english
@singsing1447 Not many people know about Lozen. But her time will come. A great movie could be based on her life. Her people didn't talk about her because it was very improper for a single woman to live among the warriors. Historian Eve Ball was one of the first outsiders to be told about Lozen by Chiricahua survivors. A number of gay groups claim Lozen as a lesbian hero, but most Apache scholars describe her as more "nun-like". I read somewhere that she married just before she died.
@CSFLY77 Thank you, you're very kind. I read that women were kept in great regard among many tribes. Maybe Lozen took advantage being so powerful and moreover a great chief's sister so she could choose her fate. I really hope that her time will come. The author of the book I'm reading took many years to write it because of the lack of information and still there are gaps he filled with guess.
its hard to believe that about 200 years ago that the apache were savage murderers and rapists to colonists but today we idolize them by naming our helicopters and weapons after them.
@redted444 We name our helicopters and weapons after the Apache out of respect for them as warriors, from one warrior society to another. The various Apache tribes were nomadic raiding tribes who deserve warrior respect.
@CSFLY77 well its strange because in 1850? andrew jackson hunted down apache and related indians but today we name shit after them. btw im shawnee so im not racist
@redted444 It was the 1830s, and I doubt Andrew Jackson ever heard of the Apache. But yes, Jackson's Indian Removal Act was one of the darkest days in US history. Your people, the Shawnee, got screwed. My people, the English & Scots-Irish, were on the warpath and had little regard for Anthropology and Sociology. In the 1830's, many Western Indian nations were at their peak of power with little regard for conquered cultures. Why is it ironic that we name weapons after warrior tribes?
@CSFLY77 Do you want my pity, or do you want my respect? Do you want to be treated as a loser or as a member of a great warrior tribe? I'm happy to treat you any way you prefer...
@CSFLY77 well when apaches made first contact, colonists thought they were brutal savages and hunted them down for their warrior ways. and by shawnee i mean my great great grandfather was a irish poineer and became part of a shawnee tribe (had a indian wife, kinda like sam houston.) but my great grandmother was on the whiter side. my fathers mother was from nazi germany. so im irish-german with light indian roots.
@redted444 Most Apache tribes were nomadic raiding and warrior societies and feared enemies of the sedentary agricultural Pueblo Indians and, later, the Spanish, who had coveted horses, mules, and cattle. The Mescalero and Jicarilla Apaches were among the first North American tribes to acquire Spanish horses and trade them to Plains tribes, changing their way-of-life forever. US Anglos didn't encounter Apaches until the 1830s and 40s. The US-Chiricahua Apache wars began in the 1860s.
@redted444 We didn't ask anyone to name helicopters and weapons after us and the colonists were intruding on our lands. And it's Andrew Jackson's fault for having those colonists go West, he is also responsible for the Trail of Tears and yet Americans Idolize him and put him on the $20 bill.
I really like her outfit and what would happen if they were allergic to pollen could they still continue the passage? I wish they had more information about it in the video all of the videos I watched on here today seem to have a happy outcome but leaves me with what if questions.
You walked in as young ladies and came out woman, how proud you must all be. Thanks for sharing this beautiful video with us. I am from Canada, and belong to Kehewin Cree Nation...
@Dewlight1122 ...Exactly what are you talking about? I like anyone else can be on the computer, and it is offensive. Do you think that just because I'm a native person, I shouldn't be on the computer. Why are you on a computer?
There are too many messages here from wannabes fantasizing about being Apache while dismissing their own people as nothing. Just about every culture has traditional rights of passage rituals. We can best honor the Apache ceremony by searching for, finding, and embracing the rituals of our own people. This film is a good reminder that we all have rituals worth celebrating. Let's turn off our TVs and computers for a moment and ask our elders about these traditions.
@CSFLY77 Excellent points! I have a Heinz-57 background but I'm sure each of "my" cultures had their own rites and rituals. Unfortunately I no longer have 'elders' who could tell me about them, although I could probably find some information on the information highway. :-)
@CSFLY77 You are right, a lot of people fantasize about a life that they could not handle, however, many religious rites are comparatively detached from mother earth and the energy that drives us. In western culture becoming a man or a woman has become ambivalent, with equally ambivalent rites. What is on offer; Have you foreskin cut off?? Join the army??? Be the boss of a corporation???? I would rather dance until I drop!
@CSFLY77 Why would you bring up something so negative? What is wrong with fantasizing about being Apache? Aren't they to be admired. This is beautiful. I never experienced any rite of passage like this. I am a social philosopher and I can see so many consequences of not having rituals. I don't know any rite of passage where boys take it so seriously in supporting their sisters. This is beautiful. If people are drawn to this, perhaps its for a reason. But what are words? nothing can said properly
Why don't people focus on just being good human beings instead of always wanting to single themselves out and show how different they are from everyone else. The world would be a much better place.
hey "brokensoul619" im mescalero apache and you better shut the fuck up!! you dont even know what are you talking about! that is a purberty feast.. and ur just a person who should shut up!
hey "brokensoul619" im mescalero apache and you better shut the fuck up!! you dont even know what are you talking about! that is a purberty feast.. and ur just a person who should shut up!
@brokensoul619 go fuck yourself bitch LP sucks balls by the way motherfucker talking shit behind a computer if i were to see you right now i'll kill your bitch ass don't bother replying back little faggot FUCK WHITE PEOPLE YEAH I SAID IT. whatcha gonna do bout it nothing so shut the fuck up bitch or your account will get hacked
@MachiSinFly You're a jackass. How is MY English? (Furthermore, if you were such the expert, then you'd know the "e" in English should have been capitalized.)
@mspepperhead81 First of all, I do not regard you and your people as "dumbasses" (I believe this is what you're getting riled up about). I'm simply referring to the person I replied to as someone who do not speak English much, or someone who does not like to use fluent English. Second of all, just because I said "you guys" that doesn't automatically refer to you or anyone else. Third of all, I am not an expert. I still study in school.
@vuur150 ......ummmm new mexico is IN america and i can bet there is a mcdonalds within 10 miles of where this cerimony is taking place its all about the KIND of person u are not where ur from...u shouldnt steriotype
Well I belong to a Apache Tribe (which obviously means I'm apache to). This video was very insightful on how other tribes does (or do?) their traditions. From where I'm from we do our Rite of Passage very different but yet you can see the similarites(sp) between ours and theirs.
Im a native american girl of croatoan descent. I'm more americanized though. I am a christian and dont worship gods. I dont have any special ceremony or anything. I'm very proud to be native american though and I wish I was more like my ancestors used to be :P
Man I Love too see these.! :D Gonna have my own Crown dancers Buhh still learning abt it...
Birdboy8642 5 days ago
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BabiRicaRica 4 weeks ago
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BabiRicaRica 4 weeks ago
At least half the population of the United States doesn't know New Mexico is a state.
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@MajiinBuuuu Better yet how can we ever hope for the world to progress as a whole when we have mothafuckin stupid asses like you showing racism.. Educate yourself and don't be an ignorant, and stop talking out ya ass..
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I'm an architecture student at Marywood university and I'm a Mixtec Indio "people of he rain place" of Oaxaca Mexico. No I don't consider or want to be looked at as a 'Latino or Hispanic ' I will always identify myself with the indigenous group because even within our country my people get discriminated. I'm native all the way.
90loneeagle 1 month ago
Awww I wish I had done this :)
Brutallychicken 1 month ago
She's pretty. :)
SuckMyKintama 1 month ago
In me country, your a woman when you get your period...
Silvas1314 3 months ago
That sounds like fun. :D
NemoBeatrice 3 months ago
How can we ever hope for the world to progress as a whole with nutcase third world Countries like this?
MajiinBuuuu 3 months ago
@MajiinBuuuu the 'nutcase' third countries like this think the same about us.
sonadowfangirl30869 3 months ago
@MajiinBuuuu it's called a rite of passage... why do we have sweet sixteens? bar mitzvahs? same deal.
jesakaisnthere 2 months ago
@MajiinBuuuu Progress? We are destroying the world, think about what those 'nutscase' third world countries think about us.
TazzyProductions 2 months ago 2
@MajiinBuuuu Are you fucking stupid? New Mexico... is in the States. Idiot.
pushelildaisies 1 month ago
@MajiinBuuuu what does world progression actually mean? your view of world progression is different from the next person's. And the world progressing in your eyes may seem to be the world going backwards in another person's eyes. "World progression" is not universally agreed as one idea.
goonerboy93 4 weeks ago
"Culminating in an all night dance that will test her endurance." - Sounds like my average saturday night. Pussy.
WayToSaveTheWorld 4 months ago
This is beautiful. White people have sweet sixteens. lollllll #whitepeoplefail
cooolness3 4 months ago 4
lol superstition
werewasyo 4 months ago
Hey The Medicine Woman Is My Auntie! Well They Pronounced Her Last Name Wrong But Its All Good(x
xXNewMexicoBoiiXx 5 months ago
And people wonder why Europeans were and are the most successful.. well we moved on from that kind of living thousands yrs. ago..I don't think Europeans even had these kind of wild things.. Man had to kill animals, and learn how to fight to become men and women to learn how to cook and make food, be healthy to being a child in the world... not this crap
EuropeanGuy87 6 months ago
@EuropeanGuy87 Right because NO WHITE people do "crappy" tribal/cultural things, right? May I remind you of Middle Age Fairs, Cowboy festivals, and, worst of all, L.A.R.P. Live Avatar Role Playing.
ZacharyGriffin1990 5 months ago 9
@EuropeanGuy87 Europeans don't have cultural ceremonies that celebrate someone's rite of passage? What are baptisms and confirmations and christenings and First Holy Communion? Study your own history before you write things that are so very wrong. What makes you think Apache don't teach life skills? The fact that they are here in the present day means they did pretty well before the Europeans came along, which means their culture worked for them before their world was turned upside down.
TelcontarRulz 5 months ago
@EuropeanGuy87 you're so ignorant
mostercreature 5 months ago
@mostercreature I know I'm ignorant but I also know I'm right
EuropeanGuy87 5 months ago
@EuropeanGuy87 if you look at history straight up, white men were a bunch of dicks going around the world taking advantage of other people's good nature and ignorance... and their "success" had a lot to do with the contributions of other cultures... people arent taking their shit anymore and are rising up, so basically European "success" isnt gonna last much longer and i hope your ignorant ass is ready for that
mostercreature 5 months ago
@mostercreature As long as there is Russians, Germans, French etc .there is NO CHANCE - and especially since Chinese, Japanese would be the only massive threat, they technically arent because we get along well and they are civilized etc.. but Africans by all means they will always be inferior, they never will be on top that's certain 100% ..plus nobody likes blacks - Even Middle Eastern is racist toward them ... it's quite sad.. ;)
EuropeanGuy87 5 months ago
@mostercreature I'm going to ask you a question ! Blacks have dark skin, and there is nothing wrong with that, because their black skin evolved because they live in very warm weather for so long. Now what you think would happen if you bring a bunch of black people in Norway and let them there eat normally - what do you think they won't survive for to long ? It's same if you bring a redhead with pale white skin in the desert..the sun will kill a redhead in Africa without solar protection
EuropeanGuy87 5 months ago
@EuropeanGuy87 oh man you're an idiot haha im done talking to you now...
mostercreature 5 months ago
@mostercreature LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL i dont blame you hahahaa, that guy made me laugh so hard.
bezerka 4 months ago
Are there any full-blood native americans left? My history professor told our class that the real (dark-skinned, as he referred to them) full blood native american people are all extinct and that all native american descendants have at least some dna from one other race (usually white). Is this really true?
Ericwvm 6 months ago
@Ericwvm I'm full-blooded native american! I'm darkskinned. There is full-blood natives, they just live in Tribes
h4tch3txkill4 5 months ago 2
@h4tch3txkill4 ok great to hear! Because i disagreed with my teacher and she said that the modern natives today look very different than before. She showed me picture of natives in the old days, and I have to say, they looked very indiginous (black skin, a bit like the natives from south america). so she challenged to find a picture from a modern native that is 100%. Mabe I could get your picture to show her (maybe a weird wuestion). So do you live on the rez too or have you moved there?
Ericwvm 5 months ago
@Ericwvm
That's bullshit.
NopeJPeg 5 months ago
Spend the weekend practicing an ancient Apache Rite of Passage. Monday, goes to job at best buy.
DDrake961 6 months ago
i wish most of America would have better Rites of Passage than most of the Vain ones Society has 4 us-ones that would actually Teach character and Integrity.
UnexpectedWonder 6 months ago
i go to this every year, its a a beautiful ceremony
RigorMortisi 6 months ago
Blessings to Morning Star Feather and her people. The way of native people is steeped in ancient tradition and meaning. Whites would do well to learn more about these ways and native people should encourage those of all color who seek this wisdom. Native people should also not lose their connection to their tradition because this knowledge only survives in those who live it and embrace it.
rangechicken1 6 months ago
*Part 2* Good rite of passage And the reason they paint her is that their welcoming a new women to the tribe. And the reason they don't show the girls dancing in the Big Tepee is because its very sacred. But they dance all night on the last night. They don't dance non stop they have breaks so she can rest ect. When girl's have this cerm, they have to be pure. So that's why our culture is vanishing. And I would explane the rest but the rest is very sacred But I hope this helped you guys out a lil
h4tch3txkill4 6 months ago
*Part 1* First, they miss lots of other info that's why you guys keeping having questions. The reason her mother prepared for years is because everything has a meaning. And she get's her dress made for her. She doesn't were hand me downs. They all don't have to have their comming of age cerm they can have it alone. But the 4th is the big one where lot of ppl come. And if she was allergic to pollen she would still proceed with it.Her medicine women will bless her so her so it would be a...
h4tch3txkill4 6 months ago
There's such rich heritages throughout North America. It annoys me how historians/archeologists/sociologists, and the such, ignores and overlooks it.
They'll go to Egypt, China or Mexico before even giving a thought to the pyramids in Ohio, the adobe ruins throughout the Southwest or the township remains in the East. It's refreshing to see this video.
Lukege15 6 months ago
hollybearable
I too am more Apache, my grandmother was a shaman, I understand wanting to learn the indian ways. I am an adult and attempt to learn more and our ways as well and attempt to embrace my gift, everydays is a struggle without her by myside. Stay strong.
shannukah
sndalleinne 6 months ago
Congratulations Morning Star Feather. I hope you are remembering this on your journey. So beautiful.
ninasooz 6 months ago
@DrMMHMD Why does youtube draw the dumbest people to comment? Oh yes, because you have no credited voice anywhere else. Like what is your point. Make a point. Justify what you are saying right now. The biggest demographic on welfare are whites. Welfare accounts for like maybe 5 cents off your paycheck while military spending is ridiculous. You think you are clever or unique with this harassment? You are just duped into thinking the way they want you to think. You ignore the power. your loss.
ninasooz 6 months ago
I see this as a part of the Mescalero Apache culture.. We really need to either sit back and learn, or, just keep out of their business..
zipper179 7 months ago
They are such strong people. Native American life is so pure and inspiring. I give them a lot of credit.
Britfan06 7 months ago
@Britfan06 Go head Britfan, I do to. I want to turn that credit into something more substantial. do you ever feel that way? God, I will do what I can but I dream of buying land and giving it away, though maybe that is naive. giving it back. I stand at night and just imagine life in a tight knit community before all the crap came and I am so sad for what has been largely lost, though as we see not totally. The spiritual legacy of indigenous peoples in North America is so substantial.
ninasooz 6 months ago
@ninasooz wow. It's good that it is this important to you. I think it would be a nice personal symbolic gesture. It's people like you, me, and almost everyone who commented on this video to help the Native's keep their pride and help others to understand their importance. They are doing a find job themselves, not discrediting them at all, but the more the merrier and I think we can all embrace in that.
Britfan06 6 months ago
Wouldn't it suck if she were allergic to pollen?
chickenpoodle009 7 months ago
Over here they just have to pass home EC...
Awesomechild96 8 months ago
So...what if you've got allergies to pollen?
Iciebleu 8 months ago
@Iciebleu thats what i was thinking
Mrhamburgerable 7 months ago
can someone explain the cross necklace?
rhankinson86 8 months ago 19
@rhankinson86 Maybe a product of historical (and current) Christian dominance? Or maybe it's a symbol for something else.
flawedxromancexo 5 months ago
@rhankinson86 assimilation in a nutshell
themw2montager 4 months ago
@rhankinson86 i'm taking an Anthropology of Religion class and my teacher explained to me that though many native americans believe in worshipping spirits and such, many also have adopted their own religious beliefs, usually accepting Christ.
gggginaa1 3 months ago
@rhankinson86 Being brutally converted over decades?
SteinbrecherBack 3 months ago
fourth of july ?
freeminded4ever 8 months ago
Everybody is ill, everybody is in pain, even God had a rest after making the Earth in seven days. I didn't think there were any Apaches. I think it's good that there are. I'm very happy to have seen an Apache girl doing such a ritual. I saw a film, A Man Called Horse, but this is prettier.
robotiqz1 8 months ago
Shout out to Northern cheyennes! I respect the apache and their history. I'm sixteen and I've completed my tribes rite of passage for boys and which we really don't call it that. I've already chosen my wife and hope she will bear alot of children.
Morningstar547 8 months ago
don't fuck with a apache warrior bitch
brendapeaches123 9 months ago
wow there's a whole lot fucking going on.....
thekornfreak21 9 months ago
hell yeah! full blooded White Mountain Apache right here :D
thekornfreak21 9 months ago
and if she fails? what happens if someone doesnt pass? do they not marry?
kaeldi2010 9 months ago
@kaeldi2010 ppl there are supporting her. Espescially the medicine woman. (who is my auntie in this video) if the girl cant do it then the medicine will do it. and she can still marry.
lancebegay3 9 months ago
She's so beautiful :)
belle7rose 9 months ago
@belle7rose i know right
awonderland123 9 months ago
I AM PROUD TO BE AN APACHE WOMAN MY LAST NAME HAS A POWERFULL MEANING ..A-N-AY-A (LAST MAN STANDING ...) WE STILL EXSIST WE R STILL STANDING AND ALWAYS WILL B ......WHITE FEATHER ...
MsTattoolove 9 months ago
my roots come from italy and northern scandonavia...
but i sure as hell would enjoy being apache in my next life
punkerboy937 9 months ago
Aho good one! As a young Xicano from Colorado I am happy to have seen this in my life. They even put me and my Barrio Warrior bros to work out there, they were real good to us. It is a beautiful thing to witness, just regret not able to make the run in the morning. Hopefully I'll be back one day. Blessings to all
TiahuiPictureCompany 9 months ago
used to be that only elder women were involved in the young woman rituals-so as to not mix male energy which wd interfere with the female power-shows how now with the doing away of the womens clan longhouses- men even trespass on womens rites-return to iroquois women (see spittal) will restore safety for women & children-& do away w need for profits from selling weapons making wars & overpopulation caused by religious leaders worldwide
lmollot 9 months ago
I experienced this ceremony in 1976. It was one of the most profound experiences of my life. I was not allowed to be close and see things as this video show. I am in tears of joy and connection to all my relations as I watch. Thank you, Mescalero, for opening yourselves and your sacred ways. I hope to go back to Mescalero soon and witness these sacred ways from different eyes. Aho.
lafemmefatalle 9 months ago
compared with the dark and demonic african tribal tradition of human and animals sacrifices,such as the infliction of pains and torments.the tradition above is mild.symbolic and beautiful,no blood or torments involved,however on wheather u will turn up to be a good human..in mind,it is all up to the individuals
danielav9 10 months ago
Do they scalp ppls heads? Lol
XbandosXpker 10 months ago
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chihainep 10 months ago
Ahéhee' Apache are a great people
SnowBoardNative 10 months ago
Ass Butt Lick
ZombiesAreSuchNoobs 10 months ago
I'm suix ;P .Cool though
Dreammystic 10 months ago
I don't understand the 'hardship' she had to go through. Was it fasting?
Raekott 10 months ago
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AllstarHunE 11 months ago
@AllstarHunE let me bang your mom
funkeemon 10 months ago
@AllstarHunE she's about 14 you pedophile
isabella165 10 months ago
lol
tdotmusiq 11 months ago
omg! ten hours! that's crazy.
sammelina12 11 months ago
at least True Indians don't kill their own kind and pull out hair or make someone throw up or bleed(they don't torture their own kind as a so called ritual)
this was not so bad. compared to everything else i have seen from different cultures
dashizzle1985 11 months ago
@dashizzle1985 did you watch that papau new gineau video for the mens rite of passage? i did and they made them throw up & bleed,
sammelina12 11 months ago
@sammelina12 yes i watched it too. it was disgusting and wrong in every way
there was this other one where a tribe buries kids alive
and they leave them to die its horrible
dashizzle1985 11 months ago
@dashizzle1985 yeah I thought you watched that video. OMG! Send me the link! I have never heard of that! I hate how horrible humans can be.
sammelina12 11 months ago
Man ten hours of dancing I'd call that a test of endurence. I dont think I could do that lol
ultranova12 11 months ago
she is very lucky that she was able to do this ceramony. I was forced to miss mine because i dont know my native tribe.
1Sakiya1 11 months ago
DAMN shes pretty hot giggity
thedominirican92 11 months ago
@thedominirican92 LOLOL
MySnaz 10 months ago
Wapani Anakwa Mikona in my language
KWEKOSHKUKI12 11 months ago
I am part Apache, my husband and i want more then anything to live and love there i need to learn my Indian ways, i missed my cerm for women hood, i am now and elder. having lost my ability to bear children, i want to do my sun dance.and meet with the medicine man. i am very ill having had 11 surg to my spine and body. i suffer in pain all the time. i want more then anything to be with my people. my husband is in the casino ind for 13 yrs now. we want to move there. to heal and work Aho Bear
hollybearable 11 months ago 26
@hollybearable Im sorry to hear to this...My prayers are wit you...I am full Apache and my family strong in our tradition and ceremonies...I hope our prayers can bring some comfort to yo and your family.
ApacheLife5465 11 months ago
@hollybearable sure you are
ironmancwb 7 months ago
i AM VERY SURPRISED THIS WAS ALLOWED TO BE FILMED.
VERY SPECIAL FOR THEM, I'M SURE.
ALL THE GIRLS LOOK SO SWEET
AKQJ40 11 months ago
what beautiful music
lequaie1234 11 months ago
ok, so now that were done here and shes a woman, someone fill out her unemployment forms so we can get us some money! rawrrrrr
TheCurvedEarth 1 year ago
@TheCurvedEarth and maybe you should build yourself a ship and sail back to europe.....OUCH!!!!!
coupleofbeers31 11 months ago
@coupleofbeers31 was your comment suppose to make sense?
TheCurvedEarth 11 months ago
why is she wearing a cross?
mujahedeen1987 1 year ago
@mujahedeen1987 Maybe she's a Christian and an Apache. Nothing stops a person from being both.
MsColdCanada 11 months ago
shes hot
bro792 1 year ago
atleast she does not need to endure pain.
Demonlord275 1 year ago
And this is why their land was taken away. Because this is what they did with it.
brttbrry 1 year ago
@brttbrry no the reason we lost our land is because of the freaking WHITE PEOPLE had to come over here and be greedy!! if it wasn't for us then white people would've died. but we ended up dying from the freaking white disease! so if u don't know the real reason then don't talk
schoolboyzindanger 1 year ago
@brttbrry no the reason we lost our land is because of the freaking WHITE PEOPLE had to come over here and be greedy!! if it wasn't for us then white people would've died. but we ended up dying from the freaking white disease! so if u don't know the real reason then don't talk!
schoolboyzindanger 1 year ago
Zortec!
raynarayskye 1 year ago
Viewers may be interested in learning about historical Apache warrior women. Lozen was the most legendary. She was Victorio's sister, a Warm Springs Chiricahua woman who chose the warrior path during her rite of passage ceremony. She was both a fierce warrior and a shaman with psychic abilities. Dahteste was an important fellow female warrior. GOOGLE can lead you to many articles about these amazing women. Their stories should be known.
CSFLY77 1 year ago
@CSFLY77 Right now I'm reading a book about Lozen. It has been so hard to find it here in Italy. It's amazing that there are so little information about her, maybe because she was so important to the people that they wanted to protect her. It seems that even Geronimo never spoke about her. Next august I'll go to South West and I'm trying so hard to learn as much as possible about history, culture and daily life of native people.That's way I read many comments in the web. Sorry for my english
singsing1447 7 months ago
@singsing1447 Not many people know about Lozen. But her time will come. A great movie could be based on her life. Her people didn't talk about her because it was very improper for a single woman to live among the warriors. Historian Eve Ball was one of the first outsiders to be told about Lozen by Chiricahua survivors. A number of gay groups claim Lozen as a lesbian hero, but most Apache scholars describe her as more "nun-like". I read somewhere that she married just before she died.
CSFLY77 7 months ago
@CSFLY77 Thank you, you're very kind. I read that women were kept in great regard among many tribes. Maybe Lozen took advantage being so powerful and moreover a great chief's sister so she could choose her fate. I really hope that her time will come. The author of the book I'm reading took many years to write it because of the lack of information and still there are gaps he filled with guess.
singsing1447 7 months ago
4:10 pause it
TheKale808 1 year ago
@TheKale808 i get it she is high haha
saberf111 1 year ago
she's ceeuuuuute
TheKale808 1 year ago
its hard to believe that about 200 years ago that the apache were savage murderers and rapists to colonists but today we idolize them by naming our helicopters and weapons after them.
redted444 1 year ago
@redted444 We name our helicopters and weapons after the Apache out of respect for them as warriors, from one warrior society to another. The various Apache tribes were nomadic raiding tribes who deserve warrior respect.
CSFLY77 1 year ago
@CSFLY77 well its strange because in 1850? andrew jackson hunted down apache and related indians but today we name shit after them. btw im shawnee so im not racist
redted444 1 year ago
@redted444 It was the 1830s, and I doubt Andrew Jackson ever heard of the Apache. But yes, Jackson's Indian Removal Act was one of the darkest days in US history. Your people, the Shawnee, got screwed. My people, the English & Scots-Irish, were on the warpath and had little regard for Anthropology and Sociology. In the 1830's, many Western Indian nations were at their peak of power with little regard for conquered cultures. Why is it ironic that we name weapons after warrior tribes?
CSFLY77 1 year ago
@CSFLY77 Do you want my pity, or do you want my respect? Do you want to be treated as a loser or as a member of a great warrior tribe? I'm happy to treat you any way you prefer...
CSFLY77 1 year ago
@CSFLY77 well when apaches made first contact, colonists thought they were brutal savages and hunted them down for their warrior ways. and by shawnee i mean my great great grandfather was a irish poineer and became part of a shawnee tribe (had a indian wife, kinda like sam houston.) but my great grandmother was on the whiter side. my fathers mother was from nazi germany. so im irish-german with light indian roots.
redted444 1 year ago
@redted444 Most Apache tribes were nomadic raiding and warrior societies and feared enemies of the sedentary agricultural Pueblo Indians and, later, the Spanish, who had coveted horses, mules, and cattle. The Mescalero and Jicarilla Apaches were among the first North American tribes to acquire Spanish horses and trade them to Plains tribes, changing their way-of-life forever. US Anglos didn't encounter Apaches until the 1830s and 40s. The US-Chiricahua Apache wars began in the 1860s.
CSFLY77 1 year ago
@redted444 We didn't ask anyone to name helicopters and weapons after us and the colonists were intruding on our lands. And it's Andrew Jackson's fault for having those colonists go West, he is also responsible for the Trail of Tears and yet Americans Idolize him and put him on the $20 bill.
CMeccamenza 1 year ago
this is really cool...I don't understand how anyone could watch this then goof on it
manifestgtr 1 year ago
I really like her outfit and what would happen if they were allergic to pollen could they still continue the passage? I wish they had more information about it in the video all of the videos I watched on here today seem to have a happy outcome but leaves me with what if questions.
theJimBug 1 year ago
This is absolutely beautiful.
AliveinHim888 1 year ago
@AliveinHim888 u can do this at your home
maxkaamsut 1 year ago
You walked in as young ladies and came out woman, how proud you must all be. Thanks for sharing this beautiful video with us. I am from Canada, and belong to Kehewin Cree Nation...
tamgadwa 1 year ago
@tamgadwa then why are you on a computer? not meaning to be offensive though.
Dewlight1122 1 year ago
@Dewlight1122 ...Exactly what are you talking about? I like anyone else can be on the computer, and it is offensive. Do you think that just because I'm a native person, I shouldn't be on the computer. Why are you on a computer?
tamgadwa 3 months ago
@tamgadwa Yeah sorry bout that I was sorta racist a while ago :/ Didn't think that through so much then :) Sorry :)
Dewlight1122 3 months ago
I'm a Apache And Native American..So What nOW haterz.
kbragz10 1 year ago
There are too many messages here from wannabes fantasizing about being Apache while dismissing their own people as nothing. Just about every culture has traditional rights of passage rituals. We can best honor the Apache ceremony by searching for, finding, and embracing the rituals of our own people. This film is a good reminder that we all have rituals worth celebrating. Let's turn off our TVs and computers for a moment and ask our elders about these traditions.
CSFLY77 1 year ago 53
@CSFLY77 Excellent points! I have a Heinz-57 background but I'm sure each of "my" cultures had their own rites and rituals. Unfortunately I no longer have 'elders' who could tell me about them, although I could probably find some information on the information highway. :-)
MrsNorris55 10 months ago
@CSFLY77 You are right, a lot of people fantasize about a life that they could not handle, however, many religious rites are comparatively detached from mother earth and the energy that drives us. In western culture becoming a man or a woman has become ambivalent, with equally ambivalent rites. What is on offer; Have you foreskin cut off?? Join the army??? Be the boss of a corporation???? I would rather dance until I drop!
MsMosquito9 10 months ago
@CSFLY77
I would and I have but I know little about my heritage not everyone gets the benefit of even knowing where they came from. It would be nice though.
Sweettart9467 9 months ago
@CSFLY77 shut the fuck up hater go kill yourself
bburnnone 7 months ago
@CSFLY77 Why would you bring up something so negative? What is wrong with fantasizing about being Apache? Aren't they to be admired. This is beautiful. I never experienced any rite of passage like this. I am a social philosopher and I can see so many consequences of not having rituals. I don't know any rite of passage where boys take it so seriously in supporting their sisters. This is beautiful. If people are drawn to this, perhaps its for a reason. But what are words? nothing can said properly
ninasooz 6 months ago
what a good looking woman
Kolashov 1 year ago
i just always always always wanted to be an Apache.. can i not just become one although i'm white??
SuperTiredofitall 1 year ago
@SuperTiredofitall NOPE
Orangejeda 6 months ago
Why don't people focus on just being good human beings instead of always wanting to single themselves out and show how different they are from everyone else. The world would be a much better place.
bnblk4us 1 year ago
hats at 3:00-
the kick is up, AND ITS GOOD
goofiestgamr 1 year ago
hey "brokensoul619" im mescalero apache and you better shut the fuck up!! you dont even know what are you talking about! that is a purberty feast.. and ur just a person who should shut up!
h4tch3txkill4 1 year ago
hey "brokensoul619" im mescalero apache and you better shut the fuck up!! you dont even know what are you talking about! that is a purberty feast.. and ur just a person who should shut up!
h4tch3txkill4 1 year ago
Beautiful culture and people.
Ratd0g28 1 year ago
@Ratd0g28 totally amazing..i just want to be a part of them, always wanted to as long as i can remember..
SuperTiredofitall 1 year ago
beautiful name she got :)
pinkygirl1999 1 year ago
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fucking apaches.
brokensoul619 1 year ago
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@brokensoul619 go fuck yourself bitch LP sucks balls by the way motherfucker talking shit behind a computer if i were to see you right now i'll kill your bitch ass don't bother replying back little faggot FUCK WHITE PEOPLE YEAH I SAID IT. whatcha gonna do bout it nothing so shut the fuck up bitch or your account will get hacked
brendapeaches123 9 months ago
@brendapeaches123 umad?
brokensoul619 9 months ago
What a beautiful name!
DeliciouslyDi 1 year ago
im 4
TojoADL 1 year ago
very cool, a lot nicer than tsome of the African rituals
Sanghoma 1 year ago
They should have played the Rite of Spring the entire time.
Atma505 1 year ago
we apaches can endurance anything
mariotttttttt 1 year ago
@mariotttttttt Yeah, but you guys learn bad english.
MachiSinFly 1 year ago
@MachiSinFly yeah wait thats just me
mariotttttttt 1 year ago
@MachiSinFly i bet you cant beat him in a knife fight lol
TojoADL 1 year ago
@TojoADL Knife? In my country we use gunz!
MachiSinFly 1 year ago
@MachiSinFly Because you don't know how to fight with your hands:)
CMeccamenza 1 year ago
@CMeccamenza KNIVES, not hands.
MachiSinFly 1 year ago
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@CMeccamenza KNIVES, not hands.
MachiSinFly 1 year ago
@MachiSinFly You're a jackass. How is MY English? (Furthermore, if you were such the expert, then you'd know the "e" in English should have been capitalized.)
mspepperhead81 1 year ago
@mspepperhead81 First of all, I do not regard you and your people as "dumbasses" (I believe this is what you're getting riled up about). I'm simply referring to the person I replied to as someone who do not speak English much, or someone who does not like to use fluent English. Second of all, just because I said "you guys" that doesn't automatically refer to you or anyone else. Third of all, I am not an expert. I still study in school.
MachiSinFly 1 year ago
that was really cool and she's really pretty and her family must be really proud :)
puddlesofamy1 1 year ago
@vuur150 ......ummmm new mexico is IN america and i can bet there is a mcdonalds within 10 miles of where this cerimony is taking place its all about the KIND of person u are not where ur from...u shouldnt steriotype
guerillapie 1 year ago
this was cool
usatrackfeene400 1 year ago
Awesome, they have endurance, while people in america literally eat themselves to death at macdonalds
vuur150 1 year ago
wow you learn something new everyday.
KassieManson 1 year ago
Well I belong to a Apache Tribe (which obviously means I'm apache to). This video was very insightful on how other tribes does (or do?) their traditions. From where I'm from we do our Rite of Passage very different but yet you can see the similarites(sp) between ours and theirs.
ChunyGurl 1 year ago
This is badass.
FUZZYisBIG 1 year ago
this is cool :)
TrnsfrmerPrncs4lyfe 1 year ago
Beautiful!
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago 2
Im a native american girl of croatoan descent. I'm more americanized though. I am a christian and dont worship gods. I dont have any special ceremony or anything. I'm very proud to be native american though and I wish I was more like my ancestors used to be :P
TheBrunettebabe13 1 year ago