I don't think this is a Christian song tbh. I think of it as a couple struggling with their inner demons to find some meaning with life. They come to the conclusion (Dread the passage of..). Jesus here I think of as love, so hold on to love for once it goes you by it does not return. Realizing this they then go on with their lives, at first its all good, but as life goes on they forget what they realized long ago. Next comment.
and instead of tending to their love they begin occupying themselves with material things such as cars and houses.They arrive at a point where they have nothing left to say to each other. Everything has gone wrong and is a mess, and the lyrical "I" realizes that he has neglected the message and has, in fact, let love pass him by, and now it will not return.
@mjmcnult I do not wish to engage in a discussion about the existence or not of supernatural beings or theology. But how can a song that narrates an encounter with demons be atheistic? Specially when the demons are saying that Jesus won't return (a sentence that implies that he has been here before).
@quietbassist well, if the demons are real, I would agree with you, but I think it's really all sort of a metaphor for the lessons the world teaches us, and how we forget them.
If the Demons lied when they said Jesus does not return, is not so important to the story, IMHO. Certainly Demons aren't a reliable source. What I found fascinating is that when the storyteller returned to our world and lobotomized himself with consumerism and materialism and stopped thinking or speaking because the canaries (television) put him further to sleep. Yet somehow, maybe in one of those transcendent moments between life on L.Cohen's Boogie Street, he did recall the note from the demo
I didn't know until about a year ago that this hidden track even existed. I only have 1 player that can access it. I wish computers could get to them.
Atheism in the name of God is an abandonment of all religious beliefs . . . giving up the attempt to make sense of the world in terms of any fixed idea or intellectual system. It is becoming again as a child and laying oneself open to reality as it is actually and directly felt, experiencing it without trying to categorize, identify or name it.
Ok, just that sentence, "Atheism in the name of God" is completely nonsense. It makes no sense.
There is NO Atheism in the name of God. Atheism is freedom from dogma and belief in one of the thousands of gods we have come up with in the past few thousand years. EVERYONE is an atheist at some point. Most well known atheist are just one god further along. But unless you intend to believe in every god ever created, YOU are an atheist to someone else whose god you don't believe in.
Actually, its completely right. We, ourselves, are "Gods". We are the center of our own universe. That being said, "God" your inner most self, is the point from where "God" would be pleased with you turning to atheism, for all religion not based upon the one true god, yourself, is fraud!
One of the most haunting and heartbreaking songs ever recorded. This recording captures the respective "feels" of both the Dirty Three and Nick Cave perfectly.
I'm of the belief (after studying usage of words, not just translations. Also studied ancient euphamisms, Greek, Latin, and Hebrew, even old scriptic Hebrew) that jesus isn't going to return again, he died and served his purpose. Coming again is useless and redundant. He didnt die for nothing back then (as the "second coming" belief hints at), he died then to rule for eternity and for redemption of his people, and to grant access to salvation for all others. And no, I'm not a Xtian any more.
Actually, "Dread the passage of Jesus for he will not return" was a line repeated by monks in the Middle Ages. It meant that when Jesus comes, you need to seek the chance.
Note that after the demons write the message, and he leaves the forest, he forgets the message. Settles down into a quiet suburban life, and realizes all too late.
Nick Cave may not be a conventional Christian, but he is far from Atheist. Listen to his lecture "The Flesh Made Word/The Secret Life of the Love Song."
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I don't think this is a Christian song tbh. I think of it as a couple struggling with their inner demons to find some meaning with life. They come to the conclusion (Dread the passage of..). Jesus here I think of as love, so hold on to love for once it goes you by it does not return. Realizing this they then go on with their lives, at first its all good, but as life goes on they forget what they realized long ago. Next comment.
lithiumm 2 months ago
and instead of tending to their love they begin occupying themselves with material things such as cars and houses.They arrive at a point where they have nothing left to say to each other. Everything has gone wrong and is a mess, and the lyrical "I" realizes that he has neglected the message and has, in fact, let love pass him by, and now it will not return.
lithiumm 2 months ago
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lithiumm 2 months ago
Let it be noted that there were 111 likes before the first dislike.
mjmcnult 3 months ago 2
Further to that without 0 many other numbers would cease to exist...
Majic490 10 months ago
0 is also a number
eyewall41 11 months ago
@mjmcnult I do not wish to engage in a discussion about the existence or not of supernatural beings or theology. But how can a song that narrates an encounter with demons be atheistic? Specially when the demons are saying that Jesus won't return (a sentence that implies that he has been here before).
quietbassist 1 year ago 4
@quietbassist well, if the demons are real, I would agree with you, but I think it's really all sort of a metaphor for the lessons the world teaches us, and how we forget them.
nicktaxidermy 2 weeks ago
Like finding a musical holy grail.
OhPenSezMe 1 year ago 2
Nothing better than this ..... can't stop listening .....
OhPenSezMe 1 year ago
@mjmcnult For your sake you better hope he is not coming back.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
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@mjmcnult Seems like a simplistic interpretation especially considering Nick Cave's religious outlook. See The Flesh Made Word.
366songs 1 year ago
@mjmcnult Seems like a simplistic interpretation especially considering Nick Cave's religious outlook. See The Flesh Made Word.
366songs 1 year ago
On the other hand, despite what a demon may say, The Jesus could well return for the next tournament play. "Nobody *u*ks with The Jesus. "
PhotoCher 1 year ago
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@PhotoCher 8 years olds dude.
CrocodileBurgers 1 year ago
@PhotoCher Judas did...
hgg4 1 year ago
If the Demons lied when they said Jesus does not return, is not so important to the story, IMHO. Certainly Demons aren't a reliable source. What I found fascinating is that when the storyteller returned to our world and lobotomized himself with consumerism and materialism and stopped thinking or speaking because the canaries (television) put him further to sleep. Yet somehow, maybe in one of those transcendent moments between life on L.Cohen's Boogie Street, he did recall the note from the demo
PhotoCher 1 year ago
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hgg4 1 year ago
lose the message
lock your soul in cage
hold onto Jesus
know love
best30min 1 year ago
Omg I love this! I love Nick Cave! Why the hell can't I access it on my CD??!
saucyminx 1 year ago
I didn't know until about a year ago that this hidden track even existed. I only have 1 player that can access it. I wish computers could get to them.
danakscully64 1 year ago
Songs in the Key of X - what a special album with a pure x-files atmosphere
ManhunterMartian 1 year ago
awsome tunage
Rippsblack 1 year ago
What a shame that this track is inaccessible on every CD player I own.
JoyGrenade 1 year ago
@JoyGrenade i know - same here... I know of no way of ripping it onto PC either from the x-files CD :(
Rippsblack 1 year ago
Nick is obviously well read. This is reference to St. Augustine's words.
ewazdrzewa 2 years ago
@ewazdrzewa please elaborate. I would like to have a reference relating this to St. Augustine.
Architekton33 1 year ago
well fuck my eye! thats cave/dirty three!
my fingers are tarantulas and your mouths are rattle pythons!!!
see you in BNE 25th!!!
inbred0232 2 years ago
Atheism in the name of God is an abandonment of all religious beliefs . . . giving up the attempt to make sense of the world in terms of any fixed idea or intellectual system. It is becoming again as a child and laying oneself open to reality as it is actually and directly felt, experiencing it without trying to categorize, identify or name it.
luccaluccalucca 2 years ago
Ok, just that sentence, "Atheism in the name of God" is completely nonsense. It makes no sense.
There is NO Atheism in the name of God. Atheism is freedom from dogma and belief in one of the thousands of gods we have come up with in the past few thousand years. EVERYONE is an atheist at some point. Most well known atheist are just one god further along. But unless you intend to believe in every god ever created, YOU are an atheist to someone else whose god you don't believe in.
raydeeohedchic 2 years ago
@raydeeohedchi
Actually, its completely right. We, ourselves, are "Gods". We are the center of our own universe. That being said, "God" your inner most self, is the point from where "God" would be pleased with you turning to atheism, for all religion not based upon the one true god, yourself, is fraud!
zaoseternal 2 years ago
One of the most haunting and heartbreaking songs ever recorded. This recording captures the respective "feels" of both the Dirty Three and Nick Cave perfectly.
Dilapsor 2 years ago 2
if ure wondering how to get acces to this song via CD, you have to rewind right at the start of the cd. I love this song, the violin is just amazing.
Patfettx 2 years ago
I believe that because the message came from Demons it is a lie. That Jesus WILL return and we must not be swayed by Demons
russycarps 2 years ago
at the end, he says "he does not return. he has not returned." this is a song about futility, not resurrection.
xxtaxidermyxx 2 years ago 8
Agreed. And if you listen to the tone of his voice, it is clear that it is a hopeless message rather than a hopeful one.
mjmcnult 2 years ago
All the debates over it's meaning..but I can only think of one word to describe what I feel when I hear this particular piece: heartbroken.
It's beautiful..
Gravija01 2 years ago 3
First time I listen this piece Nick Cave,s -it is beautifull !
jancsipl 2 years ago 2
beutiful
wolfmann0005 3 years ago
I'm of the belief (after studying usage of words, not just translations. Also studied ancient euphamisms, Greek, Latin, and Hebrew, even old scriptic Hebrew) that jesus isn't going to return again, he died and served his purpose. Coming again is useless and redundant. He didnt die for nothing back then (as the "second coming" belief hints at), he died then to rule for eternity and for redemption of his people, and to grant access to salvation for all others. And no, I'm not a Xtian any more.
CalicoatMaker 3 years ago
For anyone wondering where to find this song: Its a hidden track off Songs In The Key Of X: Music From And Inspired By The X-Files
visionize 3 years ago
Actually, "Dread the passage of Jesus for he will not return" was a line repeated by monks in the Middle Ages. It meant that when Jesus comes, you need to seek the chance.
Note that after the demons write the message, and he leaves the forest, he forgets the message. Settles down into a quiet suburban life, and realizes all too late.
Nick Cave may not be a conventional Christian, but he is far from Atheist. Listen to his lecture "The Flesh Made Word/The Secret Life of the Love Song."
Keljeck 3 years ago 22
I agree with dern9999,
"Dread the passage of Jesus, for he will not return."
those are the Deamon's words,
the massage is "Don't let the deamon fool you"
otherwise your life is gona be like the song's story.
thunderyiannis 3 years ago
que tema!!!!! increible, la verdad no tenia idea de este tema, no soy muy seguidor de nick cave!
superrsonico 3 years ago
yo non save esplicar en espagnol ma esto grupo musical con nombre dirty three influenzo mucho nick cave e non solo
vandalissimus 3 years ago
Love this...
TheLovelyCreature 3 years ago
God Is in the House :D
Tanatospsic 3 years ago
Thank you, beautiful and sad song
helgajohn 3 years ago