Outer Streams, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Part 4 of 6.

[kingofaikido]

where does the criminal end and the law begin? i move my fingers and the universe moves?! give me a break.. my Mum is not me...i am also not the internet in case you wanted to know.. what this little biological framework wants is a job, some money, and some peace so that i don't have to listen to lectures like this, that makes my biological unit seem like something that needs to be incumbent upon other biological units...

[mp4ever31]

@kingofaikido I think what he saying is that we are interconnected ... u never heard of that Buddha's teaching? 

[kingofaikido]

@mp4ever31 The Buddha never said 'we' are interconnected unless you men the doctrine of dependent origination in which suffering has a cause in sensations, so that when we stop reacting from them, we cut ourselves off from their reproduction.. suffering is connected therefore to the pursuit of pleasure. that does not mean 'we' (whatever we stands for here..humans? sentient beings? all living organisms?people with access to the internet?) 'interconnected': what does that mean? are we related?

[DeadJesus100]

Where is Jiddu?

[aaron343432]

Interesting point he made about getting cut off in traffic.

Perhaps this is why Tibetans focus on the - I will say fact because it just works here - that all being have been our own mother in a previous life.

[fabianobirchal]

Though and feeling are not the same thing. They are always walking together, and one is used to depend on the other. But they are not the same thing.

[jafomab]

i believe there was a K 'quote' that pertains to this discussion:

paralysis through analysis

[LeagueOJustice]

"there is no division between the thought and the feeling...they are one thing"

Nonsense. Believing concepts induces feeling states.

[Holidayfunk]

Where's Part 1&2?????????????

[ganjavi2]

Absolutely true about the kindness he explains when he met K. I experienced the same.

[jerpag]

K's teaching is false...that is why no one can achieve the goal of transformation.

Erm this does not in and of itself mean false..only in so much as jesus or buddha or any of the others who have come along.. no one has reached or achieved these goals....if we go along this line of argument we will end up with nothing! Ah K said this :)

[4164297909]

i need someone to likc my pussy

lol im naked! xB

[fhumayun]

Transformation, movement and change are integral to the human dualistic perception of Life. Perhaps K was indicating that for most people, these movements are often locked within an infinite loop in the machinery of thought. The idea of breaking out of "psychological determinism" to reclaim the "freedoms" of a fresh mind, and enable oneself to navigate and rediscover more than before is not anywhere false to me, IMO. Iconoclasm is not an easy diet for a mind constantly conjuring images.

[Epictetus2008]

K's teaching is false...that is why no one can achieve the goal of transformation.

There is nothing to transform....nothing....no mind to transform.

The search for truth is a movement away from the reality of the present.