Therion has experienced far more success since their 95/96 transformation than they ever did as a straight up death metal band. you still have a few "purist" fans out there who won't listen to them after they changed styles though. it's like they just want a band to do the same thing for thirty years or something. i guess there's nothing wrong with that but i'm not in the group.
@JudgeSpektre no, they just don't want it to do a completely different thing.people listen to a band because they like the style,if you are going to change that so much that you'll end up in a different genera than you are probably going to lose some fans especially if the change is for the worst .success?that depends on what you call success.i think is more about 'who' listens to it not 'how many'
@endgiver999 For the worse? how would you judge that exactly? you'd say the death metal Therion fans are better than the symphonic metal Therion fans? Therion had problems making any money as a straight up death metal band. if the had continued on the path it's debatable if they'd even still be around today.
Yes it is. Before they went symphonic they were a full on death metal band, than started to switch to symphonic metal on "Lepaca Kliffoth" and "Theli"
@Heavymetalgamer28 i've know and liked their death metal as well as their symphonic metal but i've always thought that they were different bands with the same name
@mortician001 You can still feel the symphonic part in their songs. It is existant in all the bands who start to do the more symphonic metal - and only accidental if existant in those who do not go this way.
man, i fucking love these kind of bands!! they go from such whiplash-giving moshpit-starting fucking killer death metal to awesome fucking prog synth metal!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! LONG LIVE EVOLUTION!
i think this is unoriginal rubbish frankly, i want a good death metal album, i go listen to deicide. therion are best in their late 90's phase frankly
@AsociacionAntiPosers Therion is still 'real' metal, there's more to metal than the extreme genres. Slipknot is heavier and more aggressive than Blind Guardian, but the latter is definitely the more metal of the two.
i m just starting listening to therion and i believe this is the best thing they ve done...why did they stop playing this fuckin nice death metal and turned into a non-interesting band???
Maybe everyone should keep their opinions to themselves... kinda makes you wonder what kind of world we'd live in if assholes like you got to dictate who could express their opinion.
@LORDOFBLACKMETAL79 im dont dumb because i think a band is good you fucktard. as i said close minded. not everything has to be brutal. u sound like an angry 14 year old, fuck you probably ARE an angry 14 year old.
First of all, you type like an angry fourteen year old. Its not closed minded to like and dislike things. Don't tell people to shut the fuck up when they're expressing an opinion, and as a result people won't call you dumb.
@whocareswututhink he called me dumb becayse i like how they sound now. and your saying its not close minded to like and dislike things but he wasnt allowing me to have my opinion on the band. he called me dumb for saying i like them, making him a close minded fuck.
man this is the real therion,,,when they were death metal,,agressive and heavy,,, bu today they are as gay as cradle of piss or all that gothic ,black pseuso power, nu metal shit ............
I love Therion, but one thing I don't get is how some of these fans especially on videos of their old stuff says things like "This is real metal, not like that gothic gibberish they play now". I like all of Therion's albums, yes, even the new ones.
Jesus Christ you people are the stereotypical death metalheads who think that everything but "da brootalest of all death metal" is for "fagots".
Okay, so everything that isn't pure death metal is considered "gay poser shit"? How are their new stuff "poser"? They play symphonic metal, which I'm sorry is way too sophisticated for close minded people like you. Come on, what type of person has "HELL77" as their username?
You people who are "brootal" all the time are much more poser than those who show a more intelligent side of themselves which isn't barbaric and stupid. Sorry, noone who is like that is real.
No offense WCannibal, I know where you are coming from but still you can't deny that Therion aren't posers. They sold out so bad that the Norweigan Black Metal scene wanted Christofer dead for being a poser.
Nonetheless, their symhponic albums were cheesetastically good and I own their t-shirt even though their might be a risk of having an inverted cross being stuck up my hairy ass by the black metal police.
Okay, but I have yet to hear a good reason why the new Therion are posers. Posers are people who claim to be something they're not. What are Therion claiming to be now? A symphonic operatic metal band. Are they? Yes. Therefore, by common logic that means that they aren't posers.
Mainly because of their musical shift. They sold out to reach a wider audience. Take Vovin for example that album sold over 100k sales while this album probably never reached 2k.
In metal, the mentality is that a band who sells out are posers.
I honestly don't have I problem and I can see your point. They are talented musicians after all.
They didn't sell out to reach a wider audience. The reason for the music shift is because the new members wanted to take the band in a different direction. And I have no clue where you got the "2k" statistic.
Selling out also requires the band to start sucking badly (see Metallica's "Load"). All of Therion's albums are genious in my opinion.
I gotta admit that you're much more reasonable than HELL77.
This isn't bad music by any standard, but to be perfectly honest, their skill and songwriting have improved quite a bit since the old days, which has nothing to do with the change in style. If they were to go back to death metal they'd be just as good as they are now, and better than they were in the early 90's. And for those who say that keyboards suck, there is actually a keyboard in THIS song, which you can hear best right at the end.
I agree. Keyboards often add a power that isn't present in many bands. I just think their later work just lacked. I mean listening to Stormblast by Dimmu Borgir (Blows their new crap out of the water) the keyboards on that album were necessary to make that album brilliant, albeit it's a bit cheesy at moments.
I'll agree on Dimmu Borgir, but I think Therion's best material came a bit later, around the Theli era. Symphony Masses: Ho Drakon Ho Megas, Sirius B, and Lemuria, thouh, I thought were also quite good. That's my opinion, anyway.
Old and New Therion are amazing!
filth69ify1 1 month ago 2
Therion has experienced far more success since their 95/96 transformation than they ever did as a straight up death metal band. you still have a few "purist" fans out there who won't listen to them after they changed styles though. it's like they just want a band to do the same thing for thirty years or something. i guess there's nothing wrong with that but i'm not in the group.
JudgeSpektre 2 months ago
@JudgeSpektre no, they just don't want it to do a completely different thing.people listen to a band because they like the style,if you are going to change that so much that you'll end up in a different genera than you are probably going to lose some fans especially if the change is for the worst .success?that depends on what you call success.i think is more about 'who' listens to it not 'how many'
endgiver999 1 month ago
@endgiver999 For the worse? how would you judge that exactly? you'd say the death metal Therion fans are better than the symphonic metal Therion fans? Therion had problems making any money as a straight up death metal band. if the had continued on the path it's debatable if they'd even still be around today.
JudgeSpektre 1 month ago
i lve this song, therion :)
joseluis2234 2 months ago
COCA COLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!
MC DONALDSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
PANTIRRRA 3 months ago
2:34 is one of the craziest riffs i have ever heard, its like grinding through your ears and melting your brain!!!
doped47 4 months ago
there only good album,,its more like just fukin incredible for 1989
corybiro 5 months ago
What a riffs!
EverxOpeningxFlower 6 months ago
massive riffs!!!!
MrMalybialymis 6 months ago
after this, the world became gay
PAREDESUFRIR 7 months ago 2
@PAREDESUFRIR this is there only good album in my opinion,i was so fukin dissappointed when there album after this came out,,i almost cryed,,lol
corybiro 5 months ago
is this the same symphonic therion???
mortician001 8 months ago
@mortician001
Yes it is. Before they went symphonic they were a full on death metal band, than started to switch to symphonic metal on "Lepaca Kliffoth" and "Theli"
Heavymetalgamer28 8 months ago
@Heavymetalgamer28 i've know and liked their death metal as well as their symphonic metal but i've always thought that they were different bands with the same name
mortician001 8 months ago
@mortician001 One can only wish!
TOEFLESH 7 months ago
@mortician001 You can still feel the symphonic part in their songs. It is existant in all the bands who start to do the more symphonic metal - and only accidental if existant in those who do not go this way.
vendsoin 7 months ago
man, i fucking love these kind of bands!! they go from such whiplash-giving moshpit-starting fucking killer death metal to awesome fucking prog synth metal!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! LONG LIVE EVOLUTION!
MorbidAzagthothDeath 9 months ago
Oh... this is the pre-evolution of Therion I see :)
JosephKrammer 9 months ago
I just want to know what happened to OSKAR FORSS. That dude was beyond!
TOEFLESH 9 months ago
old therion it's better than the shitty symphonic therion lml
LuisBlythe666 10 months ago
Wow! This is Therion?! SHIT!
Radean1 10 months ago
got 3 different versions of this CD, all 1st pressings
necrovomit74 11 months ago
death grind at its best, similar to Carbonized "For The Security" same riffs and drum patterns
necrovomit74 11 months ago
Old Therion is so much better than this symphonic ****...:/ Old Therion is..:O
BrutalAbduction 11 months ago
@BrutalAbduction I would not agree with you. :)
3Therion3 11 months ago
@3Therion3 I know..xD I know for this band because of you!:P :*
BrutalAbduction 11 months ago
@BrutalAbduction Hahahahah xD I know, I know! <3
3Therion3 11 months ago
@3Therion3 :D xD <3
BrutalAbduction 11 months ago
There's quite a difference between old and new therion.
Beholderification 1 year ago
@Beholderification
My friend, that's an understatement
Smokeclouds702 11 months ago
pure death metal
MAGHANAT 1 year ago
i think this is unoriginal rubbish frankly, i want a good death metal album, i go listen to deicide. therion are best in their late 90's phase frankly
SergeiMikhaus 1 year ago
this is the REAL THERION, not the gay shit of today.
neoxx07 1 year ago
When Therion was REAL METAL, not the baroque symphonic rock band with the newer stuff.
AsociacionAntiPosers 1 year ago
@AsociacionAntiPosers Therion is still 'real' metal, there's more to metal than the extreme genres. Slipknot is heavier and more aggressive than Blind Guardian, but the latter is definitely the more metal of the two.
HumMis1349 11 months ago
new therion is just another group with the same name
Alackhor 1 year ago
new therion suck!
valthemetal 1 year ago
what a delicious brutal sound...
QASK000 1 year ago
i m just starting listening to therion and i believe this is the best thing they ve done...why did they stop playing this fuckin nice death metal and turned into a non-interesting band???
TheMetalHead554 1 year ago
yeah, this is good! newer Therion doesn't...
HUNRainmaker 1 year ago
Therion is an excellent example of a band that turns from fucking godly to complete shit. I wish that they played like this these days. :-------(
BreathTheDeath 1 year ago
@BreathTheDeath
Shut the Hell Up...Theli, Vovin and Secret of the Runes are Masterpieces!
They never became a comercial band, so you cant call them shit!
This album is good btw, but i still prefer beyond sanctorum!
linkinn18 1 year ago
@linkinn18 Hey calm down haha. I just dont like the new style, it's about an opinion.
BreathTheDeath 1 year ago
@BreathTheDeath
I´m calm!
Do you thought that i was angry?
No way! Im not angry...you have the right to have an opinion
I respect your opinion as all opinions...sorry if I seemed aggressive
;)
linkinn18 1 year ago
@linkinn18 It' cool man. METAL! \,,/
BreathTheDeath 1 year ago
Death metal Therion is the best Therion.
VezzyRattlehead 1 year ago 8
These really went down the shitte later on, didn't they?
odinist666 1 year ago 2
I'm an angry 14 year old and what is this
GrandStyles 1 year ago
a truly magnificent album.
slowhand19 1 year ago
Now, that's a change.
masterofpuppets717 1 year ago
I love this song !!!.
pepicasso 1 year ago
3° demo
track list 3.-
JONY3468 1 year ago
I like some of Therion's symphonic stuff, but this is way better.
BrimstoneLandscapes 1 year ago
@BrimstoneLandscapes I agree. Paradise Lost went through a similar change. wtf? haha.
IrateMusicReviewer 1 year ago
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InvisibleSandwichTM 1 year ago
Long time no hear, this is great
Neavris 1 year ago
this is way better than there newer stuff
Retrox13 2 years ago
jea men tenia años que no escuchaba esa rola Metallllllll
arkantossonne 2 years ago
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Therion is as gay as it gets.
Wyndrax 2 years ago
this is gay and you uploaded an instrumental Rhapsody song? hahaaha
bce5150 2 years ago
this album is really great, one of the best death metal albums ever...
jovanbezmoga 2 years ago 2
It is good, but to call it "one of the best death metal albums ever" is a huge misunderstanding. Sorry.
Sidus666 2 years ago
brutal eso es metal metal metalllllllllll..... mil pogos con esa song aspera
eikichikibagami 2 years ago
Yeahahaha! I thought Therion doesn´t create souch good Music. But they does
Robert071080 2 years ago
Great song, but easily a candidate for the worst lyrics ever.
Vverweij 2 years ago
Coca Cola
Burns the woods
And plants fruit trees
To serve you drinks!!!!
YEAAAAAAHHH!!!
Wyndrax 2 years ago
Always a classic... still have this album on vinyl. :) I just won't give it up.
Cinerary 2 years ago
U can mess me and i´ll transfer to my friend Peter, who was one of the founders off therion back then . now he is a comp geek )
GPettan 2 years ago
What the fuck happened to them? In less than a year, they went from one of the most badass DM bands ever to symphonic faggotry.
deathlightning92 2 years ago
keep your opinions to yourself you closeminded fuck. they are still a good band.
devildriverrule111 2 years ago
Maybe everyone should keep their opinions to themselves... kinda makes you wonder what kind of world we'd live in if assholes like you got to dictate who could express their opinion.
deathlightning92 2 years ago 2
@devildriverrule111 your dumb, because they suck balls now compared to being an old school dm band. they just plain loss the brutality
LORDOFBLACKMETAL79 2 years ago
@LORDOFBLACKMETAL79 im dont dumb because i think a band is good you fucktard. as i said close minded. not everything has to be brutal. u sound like an angry 14 year old, fuck you probably ARE an angry 14 year old.
devildriverrule111 1 year ago
First of all, you type like an angry fourteen year old. Its not closed minded to like and dislike things. Don't tell people to shut the fuck up when they're expressing an opinion, and as a result people won't call you dumb.
whocareswututhink 1 year ago
@whocareswututhink he called me dumb becayse i like how they sound now. and your saying its not close minded to like and dislike things but he wasnt allowing me to have my opinion on the band. he called me dumb for saying i like them, making him a close minded fuck.
devildriverrule111 1 year ago
simple: they evolved..
leg1978 2 years ago
@leg1978 Correction: they devolved.
deathlightning92 2 years ago 5
i disagree.. but thats ok.
leg1978 2 years ago
Great album !..!
PunksDeadEmoK1dsN3xt 2 years ago 4
I agree 100% \m/
LatinPunk4eva 2 years ago 3
You know I think your right Death Grind is the best i could come up with. I wish they still made meatl like this.
SonOfTheMorning 2 years ago
therion sucks only in gothic kabbalah
and you are pussy hell77
shadowmbra 2 years ago
New therion really sucks
AlaanPan 2 years ago
Everythig Therion done is gret, expept Gothik Kabalh , or whatever si the right way to spell it.
ironaca 2 years ago
I like old and new Therion.
I sort of like them more on Beyond Sanctorum.
New Therion owns, but I think old Therion made some amazing death metal albums. Beyond Sanctorum in particular.
ShadowlordDargor666 2 years ago 6
man this is the real therion,,,when they were death metal,,agressive and heavy,,, bu today they are as gay as cradle of piss or all that gothic ,black pseuso power, nu metal shit ............
only death rules supreme
HELL77 2 years ago
I'm with you, FUCK GOTH METAL!
VoodooFlintstone 2 years ago
I love Therion, but one thing I don't get is how some of these fans especially on videos of their old stuff says things like "This is real metal, not like that gothic gibberish they play now". I like all of Therion's albums, yes, even the new ones.
Jesus Christ you people are the stereotypical death metalheads who think that everything but "da brootalest of all death metal" is for "fagots".
WCannibal 2 years ago
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this is the real therion before the became the gay poser shit they are today.
HELL77 2 years ago
Okay, so everything that isn't pure death metal is considered "gay poser shit"? How are their new stuff "poser"? They play symphonic metal, which I'm sorry is way too sophisticated for close minded people like you. Come on, what type of person has "HELL77" as their username?
You people who are "brootal" all the time are much more poser than those who show a more intelligent side of themselves which isn't barbaric and stupid. Sorry, noone who is like that is real.
WCannibal 2 years ago 5
No offense WCannibal, I know where you are coming from but still you can't deny that Therion aren't posers. They sold out so bad that the Norweigan Black Metal scene wanted Christofer dead for being a poser.
Nonetheless, their symhponic albums were cheesetastically good and I own their t-shirt even though their might be a risk of having an inverted cross being stuck up my hairy ass by the black metal police.
ibsayem1337 2 years ago
Okay, but I have yet to hear a good reason why the new Therion are posers. Posers are people who claim to be something they're not. What are Therion claiming to be now? A symphonic operatic metal band. Are they? Yes. Therefore, by common logic that means that they aren't posers.
WCannibal 2 years ago
Mainly because of their musical shift. They sold out to reach a wider audience. Take Vovin for example that album sold over 100k sales while this album probably never reached 2k.
In metal, the mentality is that a band who sells out are posers.
I honestly don't have I problem and I can see your point. They are talented musicians after all.
ibsayem1337 2 years ago
They didn't sell out to reach a wider audience. The reason for the music shift is because the new members wanted to take the band in a different direction. And I have no clue where you got the "2k" statistic.
Selling out also requires the band to start sucking badly (see Metallica's "Load"). All of Therion's albums are genious in my opinion.
I gotta admit that you're much more reasonable than HELL77.
WCannibal 2 years ago
Death Grind at its best!
SonOfTheMorning 2 years ago 11
@SonOfTheMorning death grind? fucking lame, this is just plain badass death metal, not death grind
DemonlitionVoid 1 year ago
I thinks this albums simplicity is what made it so heavy without that goofy goth opera shit they hav now
SonOfTheMorning 2 years ago 3
Of Darkness is one of the best death metal albums forever
hail old therion
playstati0ns 3 years ago 16
wow... if you compare this song with other actual songs of therion they are VERY differente... Therion rules!!!!
SapphireInLackech 3 years ago 2
that is the real therion in the present is gotic shit =(
aemmg789 3 years ago
This isn't bad music by any standard, but to be perfectly honest, their skill and songwriting have improved quite a bit since the old days, which has nothing to do with the change in style. If they were to go back to death metal they'd be just as good as they are now, and better than they were in the early 90's. And for those who say that keyboards suck, there is actually a keyboard in THIS song, which you can hear best right at the end.
benspears88 3 years ago 2
I agree. Keyboards often add a power that isn't present in many bands. I just think their later work just lacked. I mean listening to Stormblast by Dimmu Borgir (Blows their new crap out of the water) the keyboards on that album were necessary to make that album brilliant, albeit it's a bit cheesy at moments.
Imdeadblind 3 years ago 3
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benspears88 3 years ago
I'll agree on Dimmu Borgir, but I think Therion's best material came a bit later, around the Theli era. Symphony Masses: Ho Drakon Ho Megas, Sirius B, and Lemuria, thouh, I thought were also quite good. That's my opinion, anyway.
benspears88 3 years ago
Eh, whatever. I agree 100 % on Symphony Masses though. Great album. My favorite is Beyond Sanctorum, but regardless.
Imdeadblind 3 years ago 2
its fucking epic! stfu silly kids :(
HighCod 3 years ago
Ridiculous. This is by far their greatest work.
Imdeadblind 3 years ago
Fuck (metal) bands with keyboard, those bands are banal, popish and just suck!
lattjolajan 3 years ago
I remember when hear this incredible dark music back in 1991!!! Cult for eternity!!!
6kruk6 3 years ago
puede ser pero prefiero mas Therion de estos dias))) sobre gustos no hay nada escrito:)
klikon2008 3 years ago
Oh! this album kicks ass very much!!! but it's known a little...
abominator91 3 years ago
death !!!!
1991 therion
MIMIR0810 3 years ago 2
exelente 1991 of darkness
MIMIR0810 3 years ago
it`s such a shame how a good death metal becomes pussy snyphonic metal :S
TheUnholyPreacher666 3 years ago
indeed this kicks some serious ass, BUT you have to agree that theire skill has improved so damn much since they play synphonic!
gordonsbrechstange 3 years ago
I love their Symphonic stuff D:
There isn't a single album by this band I don't like.
EvokenAntithesis 3 years ago
Pussy synphonic metal? ROFLMAO dude
Therion Synphonic metal > Therion death metal
(and I like death metal)
SokenZanSoul 3 years ago
I lke their new stuff, but yeah this was when they used to be deathmetal which is much better
6morbidAngel66 3 years ago 3
too bad new Therion blows...
ProvokedAccurser 3 years ago 7
exactly. just like what happened with Atrocity after Todessehnsucht
bloodfiredeath69 3 years ago
I might actually upload some old Therion, youtube is lacking...
ProvokedAccurser 3 years ago 4
yeap best album!!!!!!!!!!
Alartos 3 years ago 5
The Best Album Of Therion!!!! Pure fucking Death METAL!!
pasudone 3 years ago 7
I wish to hear DM playing by Therion now. Too bad they don't play it any more.
dominussss 3 years ago 4
CHIDA ROLA DEATH METAL DE LOS PRINCIPIOS DE LA GRAN BANDA THERION, SIGUE SUBIENDO MAS DE ESTAS.
Saludos!!
futbox17 3 years ago 5