a piston just applies the force of an explosion with better efficiency than a rotary, in a rotary the explosion happens and has to push a triangle to the side, it doesnt make any sense, the compressive force on a piston is more direct and as such gives greater power, not to mention its easier to cool than a rotary
@deadfaithful Yeah but with piston you have to convert up-down movement to a rotation movement with a crankshaft, which leads to a loss of power. In that sense, the rotary is much more efficient as the ''triangle pushed to the side'' is already in rotation. + the rotary has fewer moving parts. For the cooling it's obviously harder, but thats just a matter of a bigger rad and intercooler(if youre running a turbo setup)
@deadfaithful Quick question, if the piston engine is more efficient then why in the same time period does a 1.5L or 1.6L piston motor without a turbo only make around 102-127hp but a 1.3L rotary without a turbo make 140-160hp, in fact, i think that the piston motor had to be 1.8L and bigger to finally pass that horsepower mark on stock production cars???
BTW i own an 88 10AE Rx7 as well as a 2000 WS6 so i like both but i dont know why one would say the rotory is less efficient. different, yes
@rotaryturbo88 cuz the rotary works more like a two stroke. It produces more power strokes per revolution of the crank than a piston engine. This gives the Rotary an awesome power to weight ratio compared to piston engines. A good way to compare the two engines is to double the rotary displacement. In your case a 1.3L rotary is comparable to a 2.6L piston.
@whatUsaybob if by 7 liter v8 u mean the ls7, please try and find something bad about that engine, its a 400 pound motor that takes less space than a OHC v6 and puts out 500hp/480ftlbs
as for the 4.6L i guess it just goes to show you that if you use the riceer OHC setup you can even make a v8 powerless,
i mean come on, mustangs need superchargers to compete with N/A GM motors
@deadfaithful And they always will, the mustang is heavy as shit, lol.
Horsepower 505 (373 kW) @ 6200 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 475 (644 Nm) @ 4800 rpm
Engine redline (rpm) 7000
Those numbers are pretty low if you ask me. The LS7 will always make more lowend then topend, so its got a pretty narrow powerband. MPO, I wont use it to race, but it's great for the trophy truck I am going to build at some point. :)
@whatUsaybob yeah right narrow torque band, ive seen dyno sheets show it starting at 350tq/2000rpm going up to 500ish at 4400 and finishing at 7000 with 450
the horsepower just climbs straight up across the sheet and almost levels off at 6000 and is the same at 7000, and an aircraft doesnt need torque to get the propeller spinning it needs horsepower to overcome the parasitic loss, a car however needs that grunt of torque and rotarys just cant supply
@deadfaithful The point of the rx7 is as it's name says, 'rotary experiment'.
You guys give a lot of credit to an engine that has been around for over 200 years. Look you go and use your V8, I will use my engine, i'm just sick of you pistonheads always saying this engine needs to be tossed. It's new, and mazda/nsu own it. No other development is being done outside of them.
This design is 40 years old, piston engines have been around since the 1800's, no shit they work better.
@deadfaithful And they are not useless, they get no attention in the auto industry. But they do perfectly fine is aircraft applications. Hell snowmobiles still use them.
Mazda just made a car with it to make it different.
fucking retard, here i am looking for videos of rx-7's. already seen like 17, and then u come with ur retardness, fucking funny, LMFAO. Good job man props
All day my dude. I hate it when these lame ass dudes try to play the race card like it means somethin' to me. Lol! I laugh at dummies like them. HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Yeah jack ass! I like how you roasted your side seals. tisk tisk... I wonder what your apex seals look like. Probably burnt toe nails, thats what you get you stupid fuck and you not supposed to push rotorys past 11.5k rpms unless its a full drag car dumbass. Some people need to be shot for the shit they do to there Rx-7's man. Gay fuck!
Dude, chill the hell out, its a joke.. I was spinning it by hand, omg! Its not a 15k rpm revving engine, just your every day street ported 13brew! The title was a JOKE obviously. Did you even watch the video, haha?
Duh Shimy. I can see the vid quality. I know he is spinning it by hand. I know all of this. His motor is fucked and we hav already settled the comment. Now on to you who has to run his mouth. "E-Penis"! That right there says you have no life. I know about rotories and have been raised building them. So jump off a cliff before you make yourself look very bad on the web dog.
Yes i am black to the core. Im kinda glad you asked so everyone else one the web knows that im black. Like that really makes a difference in what i say to certain dumbasses. But that was the smartest comment ive gotten since ive been in this litte Internet arguement.
honestly, the engine is fine... it's been running for 2 years since that rebuild. None of what you said was wrong with it. I rebuilt it, because the front side housing coolant passage cracked, and that's all. And, btw, it doesnt even have side seals or any seal for that matter installed in it on the video... it was a bare rotor in a bare housing before cleaning and rebuilding. I still don't understand why you're so pissed off about a joke video.
Im not pissed at you. I was pissed at cruddbucket cause of his ignorant ass comment thats all. BTW, How did you manage to crack the coolant passage anyway???
The relay for the fans died while a friend was driving it... he called me to tell me "coolant was spraying out from under the hood"... the temps were around 130 Celsius according to the power fc. The extreme overheat cracked it... I was lucky to get away with just that cracking, haha. Im not trying to blame my friend.. it wasn't his fault at all... stupid relay, haha
@pdpdrummerboi he turned it three times how the hell did he fuck up his seals? u can rev rotarys to 15k on the street, ur gonna be buying a lot of gas but y not. jackass
That was funny........ 99.9% of people are ignorant about the rotary motor. I have a rx7, it's more reliable than a v8 chevy and smoother.
iamxeddiex 1 year ago
LOL youre a knob
willienesses 1 year ago
my eyes and ears almost exploded^^
KeeT4Life 1 year ago
the first OHC engine came out in 1879
the first OHV engine came out 1949
the first ROTARY engine came out in 1957
a piston just applies the force of an explosion with better efficiency than a rotary, in a rotary the explosion happens and has to push a triangle to the side, it doesnt make any sense, the compressive force on a piston is more direct and as such gives greater power, not to mention its easier to cool than a rotary
deadfaithful 1 year ago
@deadfaithful Yeah but with piston you have to convert up-down movement to a rotation movement with a crankshaft, which leads to a loss of power. In that sense, the rotary is much more efficient as the ''triangle pushed to the side'' is already in rotation. + the rotary has fewer moving parts. For the cooling it's obviously harder, but thats just a matter of a bigger rad and intercooler(if youre running a turbo setup)
MrPervost 11 months ago
@deadfaithful Quick question, if the piston engine is more efficient then why in the same time period does a 1.5L or 1.6L piston motor without a turbo only make around 102-127hp but a 1.3L rotary without a turbo make 140-160hp, in fact, i think that the piston motor had to be 1.8L and bigger to finally pass that horsepower mark on stock production cars???
BTW i own an 88 10AE Rx7 as well as a 2000 WS6 so i like both but i dont know why one would say the rotory is less efficient. different, yes
rotaryturbo88 9 months ago
@rotaryturbo88 cuz the rotary works more like a two stroke. It produces more power strokes per revolution of the crank than a piston engine. This gives the Rotary an awesome power to weight ratio compared to piston engines. A good way to compare the two engines is to double the rotary displacement. In your case a 1.3L rotary is comparable to a 2.6L piston.
bmx4637 7 months ago
rotary engines have inherent problems...
like being basically useless,
who wants a motor that revs 15k and puts out 200ftlbs,
my axle nuts require more torque,
but they do have a use for the people who just like the sound i guess
deadfaithful 1 year ago
@deadfaithful Someone who can't fit a 7 liter V8 in a car and tossing center of balance out the window and into a lake.
"torque is only useful if you can get it to the ground", There ya go. 200 is more then a civic and just shy of a 4L V6.
whatUsaybob 1 year ago
@whatUsaybob if by 7 liter v8 u mean the ls7, please try and find something bad about that engine, its a 400 pound motor that takes less space than a OHC v6 and puts out 500hp/480ftlbs
as for the 4.6L i guess it just goes to show you that if you use the riceer OHC setup you can even make a v8 powerless,
i mean come on, mustangs need superchargers to compete with N/A GM motors
deadfaithful 1 year ago
@deadfaithful And they always will, the mustang is heavy as shit, lol.
Horsepower 505 (373 kW) @ 6200 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 475 (644 Nm) @ 4800 rpm
Engine redline (rpm) 7000
Those numbers are pretty low if you ask me. The LS7 will always make more lowend then topend, so its got a pretty narrow powerband. MPO, I wont use it to race, but it's great for the trophy truck I am going to build at some point. :)
whatUsaybob 1 year ago
@whatUsaybob yeah right narrow torque band, ive seen dyno sheets show it starting at 350tq/2000rpm going up to 500ish at 4400 and finishing at 7000 with 450
the horsepower just climbs straight up across the sheet and almost levels off at 6000 and is the same at 7000, and an aircraft doesnt need torque to get the propeller spinning it needs horsepower to overcome the parasitic loss, a car however needs that grunt of torque and rotarys just cant supply
deadfaithful 1 year ago
@deadfaithful The point of the rx7 is as it's name says, 'rotary experiment'.
You guys give a lot of credit to an engine that has been around for over 200 years. Look you go and use your V8, I will use my engine, i'm just sick of you pistonheads always saying this engine needs to be tossed. It's new, and mazda/nsu own it. No other development is being done outside of them.
This design is 40 years old, piston engines have been around since the 1800's, no shit they work better.
whatUsaybob 1 year ago 4
@whatUsaybob RE stands for rotary engine
jeppoification 1 year ago
@deadfaithful And they are not useless, they get no attention in the auto industry. But they do perfectly fine is aircraft applications. Hell snowmobiles still use them.
Mazda just made a car with it to make it different.
whatUsaybob 1 year ago
bored that day?
qotsaandsoadfan1 1 year ago
gay?!?!
gygyjepcaru 1 year ago
Wua psss wuaa pss, wuaaaaa..
Than you have your engine like that in your hands . )
hasanozok 2 years ago
LOL
iamachickenduck 2 years ago
are you happy to make noise like that.????
it sound like a vtec to my hears?????
NOTTTTTT !!!!!!!
lameyamaha 2 years ago
Haha, still see this video and still cracks the hell outta me
Nessaholiclover1 2 years ago
lol! golden!!
SR4410 2 years ago
pdpdrummerboi, one thing i have to say is, well.....u fail in life sub. ended :p
DwhNeo 2 years ago
@DwhNeo You my friend are a fail period. Ended. Noob. xD
pdpdrummerboi 1 year ago
holy shit the blow offs!!!
boocraft 2 years ago
Hahaha! Nice
ghostofperdition00 2 years ago
fucking retard, here i am looking for videos of rx-7's. already seen like 17, and then u come with ur retardness, fucking funny, LMFAO. Good job man props
Nessaholiclover1 2 years ago
lmao!!!! fail!!!!! but a very funny fail!!!!!!
ftt909 2 years ago
Oi bro, settle down with the boost, you mite blow a seal :P
timgman86 2 years ago
Beast.
noob5000000 2 years ago
no comment
nabbarros 2 years ago
Need bettr blow off
supercars01 2 years ago
very fast hand! i wonder how you train it......
bass1134 3 years ago 2
lol
Datorturken 2 years ago
He trains it by Wankeling, regularly.
JeefCakes 2 years ago 2
lmao! good one. XD
bass1134 2 years ago
hahaha really funny!
Kaizhoku 3 years ago
Almost looked like he was trying to make it spurt teh semen.
Fission777 3 years ago
fuckard
rickyguerra4 3 years ago
you are a fucking asshole bitch
willowi28 3 years ago
actually it revs to 9k rpm and that sounded like a dirt bike
eutomonation 3 years ago
i dnt know why you put that the engine revs at 15K RPM, but that only sounded like 5 to me, maybe you should oil your vocal chords :/
buzzin92 3 years ago 3
+ favorite
gogugogu 3 years ago
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
gogugogu 3 years ago
holy ballsack i have got to get me one of those.
squiddy112 3 years ago
LMAO!
rotormotorrx7 3 years ago
wtf....
still, his sound FX made it funny, but hat a twit!
alexwileman7n 3 years ago
damn.
rockyzee 3 years ago
loser
poid9x 3 years ago
too damn funny! lol
miamicrix 3 years ago
where do you live ? I want to punch you ..
muddwell 3 years ago
haha dude i think thats the new a'pexi blow-off lmao
dude that was really funny hah. definitely something i would do :)
squiddy112 3 years ago
ROFL wasnt expecting that
Solbreadd 3 years ago
Epic
ghettogothcowboy 3 years ago
damn, what kinda blow off valve is that?!
ssims1987 3 years ago
funny.
originalrhombus 3 years ago
All day my dude. I hate it when these lame ass dudes try to play the race card like it means somethin' to me. Lol! I laugh at dummies like them. HAHAHAHAHA!!!
pdpdrummerboi 3 years ago
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Yeah jack ass! I like how you roasted your side seals. tisk tisk... I wonder what your apex seals look like. Probably burnt toe nails, thats what you get you stupid fuck and you not supposed to push rotorys past 11.5k rpms unless its a full drag car dumbass. Some people need to be shot for the shit they do to there Rx-7's man. Gay fuck!
pdpdrummerboi 3 years ago
Dude, chill the hell out, its a joke.. I was spinning it by hand, omg! Its not a 15k rpm revving engine, just your every day street ported 13brew! The title was a JOKE obviously. Did you even watch the video, haha?
visionrx7 3 years ago 4
@i lol d
updogs 1 year ago
wow you can see all that on this video quality? you know it can just be oil...
or are you just trying to show off ur e-penis?
shimy182 3 years ago
Duh Shimy. I can see the vid quality. I know he is spinning it by hand. I know all of this. His motor is fucked and we hav already settled the comment. Now on to you who has to run his mouth. "E-Penis"! That right there says you have no life. I know about rotories and have been raised building them. So jump off a cliff before you make yourself look very bad on the web dog.
pdpdrummerboi 3 years ago
Haha "dog" are you black or something variant?
This video is wicked, 5 stars m7+1!
cruddbucket 3 years ago
Yes i am black to the core. Im kinda glad you asked so everyone else one the web knows that im black. Like that really makes a difference in what i say to certain dumbasses. But that was the smartest comment ive gotten since ive been in this litte Internet arguement.
pdpdrummerboi 3 years ago
tellem bruh.
cubiiinboy 3 years ago
honestly, the engine is fine... it's been running for 2 years since that rebuild. None of what you said was wrong with it. I rebuilt it, because the front side housing coolant passage cracked, and that's all. And, btw, it doesnt even have side seals or any seal for that matter installed in it on the video... it was a bare rotor in a bare housing before cleaning and rebuilding. I still don't understand why you're so pissed off about a joke video.
visionrx7 2 years ago
Im not pissed at you. I was pissed at cruddbucket cause of his ignorant ass comment thats all. BTW, How did you manage to crack the coolant passage anyway???
pdpdrummerboi 2 years ago
The relay for the fans died while a friend was driving it... he called me to tell me "coolant was spraying out from under the hood"... the temps were around 130 Celsius according to the power fc. The extreme overheat cracked it... I was lucky to get away with just that cracking, haha. Im not trying to blame my friend.. it wasn't his fault at all... stupid relay, haha
visionrx7 2 years ago
@pdpdrummerboi your a dumb ass :O hahahaaha
damonlandsdown 1 year ago
@pdpdrummerboi he turned it three times how the hell did he fuck up his seals? u can rev rotarys to 15k on the street, ur gonna be buying a lot of gas but y not. jackass
knockout194 8 months ago
gay boy
daddyboost 3 years ago
Two things wrong with this vid.
1) Shift a way too close together for a rotary
2) YOU SOUND LIKE A RETARD!!!!
cdaddy415 3 years ago
its a joke. Dont take life so seriously and you will be alot happier.
ssims1987 3 years ago
where the hell is the bridgeport/PP brap brap brap brap....
RotaryKnight 3 years ago
Nice blow-off valve noises on the 'gearshifts'!
ChrisHallett83 3 years ago
My rotary engine is a powerful version.
TommeyLeeReed 3 years ago
we dont care!
mopar43v3r 3 years ago
WTF
Che9009 3 years ago
thats 15 kinky rpm...
arroy624 3 years ago
nice sound!!!!
omg
lululaserpiente 3 years ago
lol pointless video to post on youtube...but good for laughs
latinchris305 3 years ago
hahahaahha omg lmfao
afireinside200 3 years ago
Dee DEE DEE
alscort93 3 years ago
rb24*
v3eclipseR 4 years ago
you can so pull off sounding like an RB25,VQ35, and 2JZ motors! fuckin awesome!
v3eclipseR 4 years ago
nice engine... really 15k rpm? like my cbr 600!
xD
autostuniados 4 years ago
totally done that before.
pikachu50 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA!
jakediamonds 4 years ago
thats gangsta shit barp barp barp baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
rxx13bee 4 years ago 2
I had to laugh... good job!
FC3ST2AE 4 years ago
retard
2007MickE7002 4 years ago
OMG!!!1!1! At least 120000 RPM! Sounds like 500 psi boost
J3n555 4 years ago 2
i wonder what 500 psi boost would sound like for real
az112a 2 years ago
Would sound abit like the big bang theory
j00hz 2 years ago
@az112a it would sound like a general electric turbofan engine
Bamchucknorris 1 year ago
i want me one of them lol
hiboostchosh 4 years ago
hahaha~
sanpoke12 4 years ago
sounded like a bridgeport... maybe im wrong
talaj 4 years ago
my rotary hero. /o\ lol
kentdoNEthing 4 years ago
HAHAHA
what blow off valve do you use?
benoitcriss 4 years ago
HIS FACE
Krannyman92 4 years ago
fukn hilarious!
sprtn1o69 4 years ago
lol =D
Fetus1300 4 years ago
500hp?
meanwhile producing full exhaust from the rear end? :D
Peeloffrx7 4 years ago
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u forgot to make a sound when the motor blows
pegpen 4 years ago
Hey, it's a turbo.
skyline00001 4 years ago
It looked like he hit redline...
vkotis 4 years ago
omg the rpm's are too high you will blow the motor for sure
v8killa09 4 years ago
LOL! that's so intense!
Skip2MyPou 4 years ago
You need to clean that rotor man.
fc3sghost 4 years ago
What the Fuck!
kitt13b 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
RotorDemon 4 years ago
lmao
dstylevids 4 years ago
lol the power
thelegendkill3r 4 years ago
i guess we all want to do that really :P
BeastBoy2k 4 years ago
LOL
shmacklepap 4 years ago
That'll dyno at one man power!
trackvisionszero 4 years ago