I can't believe someone actually wasted time putting this together. They found a plane that looks similar. thats odd, a plane looking like a plane? from all the videos of the planes hitting the towers you can clearly tell its a commercial jet.
Wasted time, u can't see the V tail of a global hawk? The exhuast in the rear middel? You dont see the the so call engines are actually wheels? Are you blind... please adjust your set!
why would their be two holes for each jet engine showing in the building? the whole plane crashed, not just the engines. Thats why their is a huge hole from a whole plane.
If you can show me a comparison of a commercial plane crashing into a building and you see the HOLE the engine left, then you will have proven me wrong.
Then there is still the whole thing about how the WTC were a controlled demolition but the towers fell down like 0 of any building in a controlled demolition.
Meepstone, I agree the buildings don't look lke your run of the mill demo job, I'll give you that. Bot what you see in this video are wheels, do you know engines for a commercial airliner are about 9 feet diameter. thats the hieght of one floor.
You can? Must be an expert, what are your credentials? This is a topic of great controversy between most qualified experts... but meepstone has officially solve it beyond any reasonable doubt, it's a commercial jet.
So what are your qualifications to make a statement like this, you think everyone other than you is an idiot?
I didn't mean to offend, I sincerely hope that you are right and that the "truth movement" is wrong, and if so, I'll be a big enough man to admit my errors. I hope the same can be expect of you.
Alex Jones openly promotes Scientologists Dr. John Breeding and Tom Cruise.Nico Haupt's TV fakery research/action group was infiltrated by Urantia cult member. David Kubiak of 9/11TruthDOTorg told NY Times "9/11 Was NOT an Inside Job" and still has his job!
It's beautiful outside, gotta go. Quick question: Why do you have the video of Bush caught in a lie about seeing the crash on the school's TV? Do you believe that they "let (the attacks) happen"?
Mk-Ultra,bad music, Ron Paul will catch the Perps.........No more IRS no more NWO..! LAST CHANCE< don't sit put up banners, scream from the rooftops...one last chance!!
From Washington Post, April '06: "The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program....Transcripts of meetings between the Joint Chiefs of Staff talk about turning Al-Zarqawi into a caricature and making him appear, 'more important than he really is.'"
Look the media may have received the film already altered, but is who does the responsibility lie with... they are protected by the first amendment, not to entertain, not to amuse... check the source? MOOO is right on the money, cant you think for yourself. Critical thinking is a great source of ideas and thoughts, why do you want to quite the questions that come from it... if your right, then there's nothing to hide.
"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history ." -- David Rockefeller, The New York Times, August 10, 1973
look up "THOUGHT REFORM" , brainwashing, the key thing to understand... when you become emotional, your "window" of suggestibility is wide open, more open than at almost any other time. This mean things can be cunningly "suggested" into your subconscious, without you knowing.
Yes, lets look it up, and then lets take a look at you. And then lets compare this. I have on my side 300+ NIST experts, the UL, the ASCE, and just about every other engineer, demolition expert in the world. Now lets look at you. You have ... 1 discredited professor. 2 theologians, a film school drop out, and a guy who believes in leezards.
You are absolutely hilarious the hypocrisy just flows from you. Amusingly, it is you, yourself who matches that description more then I do. You think you're own to something but ask yourself, just how paranoid do you have to believe that every physicist and engineer in the world is in on it? You are the one who is the brainwashed one. Buying into conspiracy theories without any proof.
Do yourself a favor, look up confessions of an ex-truther and try desperately try to look at things objectively and critically. Accusing others of being brainwashed is one of the many cult like behaviors of 911 denial.
Critical thinking means you have to actually take into account a variety of things,that the evidence actually corresponds with your theories. None of you can actually think outside of what Alex Jones and the like tell you to think.
Alex Jones, Avery, Griffin et al cover up verifiable evidence of TV fakery. Twoofer sites ban fair, detailed discussion about it. I've been recording/editing crowd sounds for 20 years and audio is faked/recycled in "amateur" clips. I noticed what turns out to be badly-faked BIRDS flying in 9/11 news archive footage. Simon Shack analyzes it. (search for "some birds 9/11")
We, over at Pilots for 9/11 Truth, allow detailed discussion about tv fakery. Having said that, my personal opinion along with most others, is that tv fakery/no-planes is disinfo. That's why Alex Jones, Avery, Griffin and most others don't acknowledge the topic. There's no real proof there.
Actual evidence, try the law of gravity, it's law of physics. Accepted in every court room, science lab, ect... the fact is, that three buildings fell on 9/11 at virtually free fall speed. Explain this fact in a way that proves no prior setting up to achieve it. Even animals, like a cat stuck in a tree, understand the LAW OF GRAVITY.
Sorry, but whats you degree in? Because last time I checked, the NIST which has degrees in how things like this work probably trumps your 3rd grade understanding of how gravity works. The fact is that NONE of the buildings fell at 'free fall' speed. And that pretty much disproves almost everything.
I +ultimately+ don't trust mainstream media. ALSO, Alex Jones, Amy Goodman, many "9/11 Truth" websites, etc. are controlled/funded by Rockefeller, and infiltrated by COINTELPRO, Urantia, Scientology, Club of Rome, etc.
Thing is, if I cite only "twoofer" websites as a source, people like you'd laugh it off, so I try to cite mainstream sources when I can. I'm also aware that when a major paper reveals a horrible U.S. gov't act, that ITSELF can be a disinfo tactic.
Your paranoia knows no bounds. Its rather funny how you try to justify it all like you do. I mean you've yet to present any 'evidence' for your silly allegations.
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government...(cont'd above)
Yeah, it was a hilarious bunch of pseudo science that failed to recognize that there were considerable images of it and it showed up on a ton of amatuer video.
Perhaps you should send the video to an expert. Oh wait, the twoof movement doesnt have any experts on their side.
The guy who made "Clues" has been a professional videomaker for 20 years. The alleged 'amateur' footage that shows a plane hitting a tower was faked. I have shown a photo (and advertising fakery) expert (since '80) and he's totally convinced that the planes were CGI. I've been recording/editing crowd sounds over 20 years and the audio on alleged amateur shots is recycled, faked.
Isn't that just amusing. I mean considering that there isn't just video theres actual eye witnesses, and the huge gaping hole in the rough shape of a plane, I'm just curious what you actually believe?
Please look below; did I say "ALL Bin Laden videos were faked"? No, I referred to an article that's about "video experts who say Bin Laden tapes were faked". Bin Laden tapes were faked; it's clearly not him in one of them, and old footage which appeared in a 2006 documentary is mixed in with "new" footage and passed off as "new".
Btw, what do you think of MSNBC's article (today) on video experts who say Bin Laden tapes were faked? Do you still believe the Desert Storm Kuwaiti incubator story? That was invented by PR firm Hill and Knowlton. They were paid $10 million to help get support for the U.S. to attack Iraq.
You *DID* read the article right? I mean you did read it I'm sure, and you did realize that the article was referring to Al Queda possibly faking the last tape. I'm sure you didn't just look at the title and run with it right.
*pats* Its okay Apocalpsynch, theres hope for you yet.
I had read it when it came out and should've read the whole thing again because I was mixing it up with another article which does talk about experts' views on multiple fake videos. So, yes, I ran with it.
Actually it does, its far easier to slip into the notion that it is a massive conspiracy that not a single iota of evidence backs up. That way you dont have to actually do anythinking, you just allow Alex Jones, Dylan Avery and other like him to tell you what to do.
(cont'd from below) "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
At the Bilderberger Meeting of The Trilateral Commission, June 1991, Baden, Germany (undisputed so far on Wikiquote)
I am assuming this video is trying to say that the plane in the 911 vid is the same type of plane in that picture. Which is incredible. It to me doesn't look anything like that plane in the pic. It's not the same shape (asides from "plane" shape) and its not the same size. It looks like a commercial airliner. Thats what it looks like, thats what it, beyond any doubt, was.
I know the film is hard to see, but I invite you to do this yourself, find the CNN film and try to freeze it as the plane enters the smoke. I see three different planes, one before the smoke, one after the smoke and one behind both, and its the one that appears as it enters the smoke. Also, if this looks close to the same size as a commercial airliner it's because both planes are similar in size. Please look at wheel / engine, the compartment that the landing equipment lowers from is open.
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JewsAreLikeSnakes 1 year ago
I can't believe someone actually wasted time putting this together. They found a plane that looks similar. thats odd, a plane looking like a plane? from all the videos of the planes hitting the towers you can clearly tell its a commercial jet.
meepstone 4 years ago
Wasted time, u can't see the V tail of a global hawk? The exhuast in the rear middel? You dont see the the so call engines are actually wheels? Are you blind... please adjust your set!
envirorude 4 years ago
Where is the holes the engines made in the side of the building? Point them out please?
envirorude 4 years ago
why would their be two holes for each jet engine showing in the building? the whole plane crashed, not just the engines. Thats why their is a huge hole from a whole plane.
If you can show me a comparison of a commercial plane crashing into a building and you see the HOLE the engine left, then you will have proven me wrong.
Then there is still the whole thing about how the WTC were a controlled demolition but the towers fell down like 0 of any building in a controlled demolition.
meepstone 4 years ago 2
Meepstone, I agree the buildings don't look lke your run of the mill demo job, I'll give you that. Bot what you see in this video are wheels, do you know engines for a commercial airliner are about 9 feet diameter. thats the hieght of one floor.
envirorude 4 years ago
You can? Must be an expert, what are your credentials? This is a topic of great controversy between most qualified experts... but meepstone has officially solve it beyond any reasonable doubt, it's a commercial jet.
So what are your qualifications to make a statement like this, you think everyone other than you is an idiot?
ucthefuture 4 years ago
@ucthefuture Moron
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
I didn't mean to offend, I sincerely hope that you are right and that the "truth movement" is wrong, and if so, I'll be a big enough man to admit my errors. I hope the same can be expect of you.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
Alex Jones openly promotes Scientologists Dr. John Breeding and Tom Cruise.Nico Haupt's TV fakery research/action group was infiltrated by Urantia cult member. David Kubiak of 9/11TruthDOTorg told NY Times "9/11 Was NOT an Inside Job" and still has his job!
It's beautiful outside, gotta go. Quick question: Why do you have the video of Bush caught in a lie about seeing the crash on the school's TV? Do you believe that they "let (the attacks) happen"?
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
Mk-Ultra,bad music, Ron Paul will catch the Perps.........No more IRS no more NWO..! LAST CHANCE< don't sit put up banners, scream from the rooftops...one last chance!!
SAYYOURROSARY 4 years ago
From Washington Post, April '06: "The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program....Transcripts of meetings between the Joint Chiefs of Staff talk about turning Al-Zarqawi into a caricature and making him appear, 'more important than he really is.'"
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
And that definitely proves a conspiracy!
Its amusing how the news media is alternately in on it and viable news source to you kooks.
torrent29 4 years ago
Look the media may have received the film already altered, but is who does the responsibility lie with... they are protected by the first amendment, not to entertain, not to amuse... check the source? MOOO is right on the money, cant you think for yourself. Critical thinking is a great source of ideas and thoughts, why do you want to quite the questions that come from it... if your right, then there's nothing to hide.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=hnBZCEu9G9g
Look at this torrent29...
envirorude 4 years ago
*ROFL*
Jeez you people are gullible. Do you all have no shame?
torrent29 4 years ago
"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history ." -- David Rockefeller, The New York Times, August 10, 1973
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
look up "THOUGHT REFORM" , brainwashing, the key thing to understand... when you become emotional, your "window" of suggestibility is wide open, more open than at almost any other time. This mean things can be cunningly "suggested" into your subconscious, without you knowing.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
Yes, lets look it up, and then lets take a look at you. And then lets compare this. I have on my side 300+ NIST experts, the UL, the ASCE, and just about every other engineer, demolition expert in the world. Now lets look at you. You have ... 1 discredited professor. 2 theologians, a film school drop out, and a guy who believes in leezards.
Tell me about brainwashing again?
torrent29 4 years ago
You are absolutely hilarious the hypocrisy just flows from you. Amusingly, it is you, yourself who matches that description more then I do. You think you're own to something but ask yourself, just how paranoid do you have to believe that every physicist and engineer in the world is in on it? You are the one who is the brainwashed one. Buying into conspiracy theories without any proof.
torrent29 4 years ago
Do yourself a favor, look up confessions of an ex-truther and try desperately try to look at things objectively and critically. Accusing others of being brainwashed is one of the many cult like behaviors of 911 denial.
torrent29 4 years ago
Critical thinking means you have to actually take into account a variety of things,that the evidence actually corresponds with your theories. None of you can actually think outside of what Alex Jones and the like tell you to think.
torrent29 4 years ago
Alex Jones, Avery, Griffin et al cover up verifiable evidence of TV fakery. Twoofer sites ban fair, detailed discussion about it. I've been recording/editing crowd sounds for 20 years and audio is faked/recycled in "amateur" clips. I noticed what turns out to be badly-faked BIRDS flying in 9/11 news archive footage. Simon Shack analyzes it. (search for "some birds 9/11")
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
We, over at Pilots for 9/11 Truth, allow detailed discussion about tv fakery. Having said that, my personal opinion along with most others, is that tv fakery/no-planes is disinfo. That's why Alex Jones, Avery, Griffin and most others don't acknowledge the topic. There's no real proof there.
iiBoneZii 4 years ago
Actual evidence, try the law of gravity, it's law of physics. Accepted in every court room, science lab, ect... the fact is, that three buildings fell on 9/11 at virtually free fall speed. Explain this fact in a way that proves no prior setting up to achieve it. Even animals, like a cat stuck in a tree, understand the LAW OF GRAVITY.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
Sorry, but whats you degree in? Because last time I checked, the NIST which has degrees in how things like this work probably trumps your 3rd grade understanding of how gravity works. The fact is that NONE of the buildings fell at 'free fall' speed. And that pretty much disproves almost everything.
torrent29 4 years ago
I +ultimately+ don't trust mainstream media. ALSO, Alex Jones, Amy Goodman, many "9/11 Truth" websites, etc. are controlled/funded by Rockefeller, and infiltrated by COINTELPRO, Urantia, Scientology, Club of Rome, etc.
Thing is, if I cite only "twoofer" websites as a source, people like you'd laugh it off, so I try to cite mainstream sources when I can. I'm also aware that when a major paper reveals a horrible U.S. gov't act, that ITSELF can be a disinfo tactic.
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
Your paranoia knows no bounds. Its rather funny how you try to justify it all like you do. I mean you've yet to present any 'evidence' for your silly allegations.
torrent29 4 years ago
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government...(cont'd above)
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
No planers are a hilarious and deluded bunch of people
torrent29 4 years ago
It looks like this guy believes there WERE planes, but that the images were messed with later.
While we're on the subject, have you seen "September Clues" (all parts at livevideoDOTcom)?
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
Yeah, it was a hilarious bunch of pseudo science that failed to recognize that there were considerable images of it and it showed up on a ton of amatuer video.
Perhaps you should send the video to an expert. Oh wait, the twoof movement doesnt have any experts on their side.
torrent29 4 years ago
Wow... never new cows could type.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
You seem to get by.
torrent29 4 years ago
The guy who made "Clues" has been a professional videomaker for 20 years. The alleged 'amateur' footage that shows a plane hitting a tower was faked. I have shown a photo (and advertising fakery) expert (since '80) and he's totally convinced that the planes were CGI. I've been recording/editing crowd sounds over 20 years and the audio on alleged amateur shots is recycled, faked.
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
Oh all the video was faked? All of it? *snicker*
Isn't that just amusing. I mean considering that there isn't just video theres actual eye witnesses, and the huge gaping hole in the rough shape of a plane, I'm just curious what you actually believe?
torrent29 4 years ago
Please look below; did I say "ALL Bin Laden videos were faked"? No, I referred to an article that's about "video experts who say Bin Laden tapes were faked". Bin Laden tapes were faked; it's clearly not him in one of them, and old footage which appeared in a 2006 documentary is mixed in with "new" footage and passed off as "new".
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
Btw, what do you think of MSNBC's article (today) on video experts who say Bin Laden tapes were faked? Do you still believe the Desert Storm Kuwaiti incubator story? That was invented by PR firm Hill and Knowlton. They were paid $10 million to help get support for the U.S. to attack Iraq.
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
You *DID* read the article right? I mean you did read it I'm sure, and you did realize that the article was referring to Al Queda possibly faking the last tape. I'm sure you didn't just look at the title and run with it right.
*pats* Its okay Apocalpsynch, theres hope for you yet.
torrent29 4 years ago
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envirorude 4 years ago
I had read it when it came out and should've read the whole thing again because I was mixing it up with another article which does talk about experts' views on multiple fake videos. So, yes, I ran with it.
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
I'm sure you did. The lack of critical thinking on your part is rather astounding.
torrent29 4 years ago
Do you know what critical thinking means??? To go with the "cover stroy" painted by the mainstream midia doesn't take any critical thinking at all.
envirorude 4 years ago
Actually it does, its far easier to slip into the notion that it is a massive conspiracy that not a single iota of evidence backs up. That way you dont have to actually do anythinking, you just allow Alex Jones, Dylan Avery and other like him to tell you what to do.
torrent29 4 years ago
(cont'd from below) "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
At the Bilderberger Meeting of The Trilateral Commission, June 1991, Baden, Germany (undisputed so far on Wikiquote)
apocalypsynch 4 years ago
I am assuming this video is trying to say that the plane in the 911 vid is the same type of plane in that picture. Which is incredible. It to me doesn't look anything like that plane in the pic. It's not the same shape (asides from "plane" shape) and its not the same size. It looks like a commercial airliner. Thats what it looks like, thats what it, beyond any doubt, was.
AlexDeLargeLives 4 years ago
I know the film is hard to see, but I invite you to do this yourself, find the CNN film and try to freeze it as the plane enters the smoke. I see three different planes, one before the smoke, one after the smoke and one behind both, and its the one that appears as it enters the smoke. Also, if this looks close to the same size as a commercial airliner it's because both planes are similar in size. Please look at wheel / engine, the compartment that the landing equipment lowers from is open.
ucthefuture 4 years ago
This is the CNN film from the second plane? Looks like it's been messed with.
envirorude 4 years ago
It has, but not by me.
ucthefuture 4 years ago