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  • Why try to rationalize with that woman?! Just block her. Or just ignore het ignorance completely

  • Some info sources are disputed but there's still a lot of truth in this. Many women allow this yet ask for men to defend them against major cultures. What Dawkins said about Islam may be said for womens rights

    /watch?v=_nla1bo6ACU

    "I wish the moderates would come out a bit more. I would love to hear moderates (muslims for example) instead of carefully &quietly getting on with their lives in an inoffensive way, which of course most of them do, why dont they stand up &condemn the fundamentalists?"

  • in my mind women aren't really worth the problems they bring. i don't hate them but i wish they knew what it is like on the other side.

  • Unfortunately, men can't have as much choice over women over weather to produce a child because they don't have to grow a foetus inside them, if humans laid eggs, this would be an entirely different story.

    However,I do believe that if either of the couple doesn't want a child, one should not be produced, it isn't right for a woman to have a child if her partner doesn't want to be a father, but unfortunately nothing can ever be removed from someone's body if they don't want it done.

  • @MissHystic Men may not incubate the egg but the ladies don't fertilize it either. It takes two bodies to create a human life and yet only one of those is given the power to decide.

  • @1menaregood1 Not saying it's right, it's just seems a matter of nothing that can be done, someone can't be arrested for what they have grown or haven't grown inside their body, and it isn't right to propose they should be arrested either, if it is decided in court that the man's desire has more ground than the woman's,she could become a fugitive, lest she be dragged kicking and screaming to an abortion, or face the possibility of disfigurement or death in childbirth.

  • @MissHystic Nor is forcing a man to be a father when he does not want to, and being forced to pay for a responsibility for 18 years he never agreed taking care of.

    We are sympathetic towards letting women have the choice if they want to be a parent or not, men are not given such sympathy nor are we given the choice.

    Men are forced into caring for kids they never agreed to have.

  • @MissHystic What MRA's been advocating for is for men to have a legal way to abort rights and responsibilities to any child. In the form of some kind of document that the man can sign, the time period of which he can sign it is within the same time period a women can abort out of parenthood.

  • @ManSpeakOut Pre-conception would be the only fair time. Otherwise the emotional consequences for the woman may be devastating. "Have an abortion or deal with this on your own," is not a very easy thing to digest.

  • @midimanhello A woman has the choice pre-conception to get pregnant, she has the choice to remain pregnant, and she has the choice to keep the child after its born.

    The only choice men have is pre-conception and thats it, men have a lack of rights.

    If these rights are given, women would almost never get pregnant by a man who never consented to be a father.

    Having sex does not mean you consent to parenthood.

  • @ManSpeakOut But the reason they only have a choice pre-conception is because the pregnancy happens inside of her body. The only reason she has the upper hand is because it is in her body.

    Assuming things would work out fairly because women would make better choices is wrong. Unplanned pregnancies are not a trick, they are mostly accidents. Now we are saying "you both messed up, now as a woman you abort or deal with the consequences alone" it is unfair toward the woman now.

  • @midimanhello A lot of women get pregnant "accidentally on purpose" they do it for many reasons.

    To keep a boyfriend/husband with them

    because they really wanted a baby, what the man wants be damned

    To trap a man financially

    and many other reasons

    You are against forcing women into parenthood yet turn around and say men cannot have this same kind of power? There is nothing equal about that at all.

  • @midimanhello You value womens ability to choose over men's, and thus advocate more power for women.

    Men should have the right to opt-out like women can, if women don't have to live up to it then neither should men.

    That is equality after all and if you don like it, tough.

    You wanted equality and we're giving it to you in full not just the good parts.

  • @midimanhello A good book for you to read is "Accidentally on Purpose" a book that talks about this very issues, about women who get pregnanat secretly on purpose for her own selfish means, which usually follows in the man she slept with being trapped.

    Its a bigger epidemic then most refuse to admit, just watch shows like Jerry Springer and other shows like it to get more then a wake up call of how rampant this is.

  • @midimanhello How do you think a man feels when forced into fatherhood, and society assists the woman in forcing him?

    This will give men the freedom they need and give women a lesson in treating their power in reproduction with a little more respect and humility, and no longer abuse this power.

  • @midimanhello Our society is about giving women choices by taking them from men.

    It would help the family unit as a whole, less babies born out of wedlock, and more families staying together.

    If this is put into action women will only get pregnant with men who consent to being fathers, which means the father will stay and raise the kids with the mother, and the family unit will remain whole.

    A whole lot of good can come out of this and no cons.

  • @ManSpeakOut I do not agree with what you think the outcome will be. Speaking from experience alone a lot of men I've seen in situations of accidental pregnancy go from proud father to scared shitless and bail. I've also seen men who claim they would be there in case of an accident and then tell woman she needs to abort the second she finds out. There are far too many different situations where your solution would be unfair for women. Your solution will not solve this issue.

  • @midimanhello What you are against is men having the power to back out like women can because it goes against women's best interest. You want men under their thumb to control and dominate with their power in reproduction.

    If the genders were reversed you would call it misogyny and say its oppressive to women to treat them this way.

    You are looking at this from the view of gynocentrism.

  • @ManSpeakOut My views are way too complaicated to talk about in under 500 characters, but post conception opt outs will not solve any issue, they will create new ones. For women who have to endure the physical and emotional pain of unwanted abortion and for the state who must bear the financial burden of the father, to name only two examples. Think about the ramifications without assuming there would be no problem because it's only women who trap men, and never men who just bail.

  • @midimanhello Giving men a way out the same time period a woman can is EQUALITY, do you know what equality is?

    Isn't that what you wanted or were you blowing smoke up our ass the whole time?

    You have no right to force a man into parenthood of women have the choice to back out.

  • @midimanhello and don't you think women ever get scared of becoming a parent and get cold feet?

    They do but unlike men, they can back out if they want.

    You're justifying discrimination against men and denying them their equal rights.

  • @midimanhello I know several cases where a woman gets pregnant, the father wants the child and the mother does not.

    He wants her to carry the baby to term, she does not.

    He wants to be a father, she does not.

    She gets the last say and aborts it or gives it up for adoption because she does not want to be a parent.

    This hurts the man emotionally but we give a rats about the father or the child, a woman gots to have her choices no matter what.

  • @ManSpeakOut I don't know about who "we" is, I just give more weight to the wishes of the mother post-conception only because she is the one who has to physically deal with either pregnancy or abortion. I cannot stress enough that I understand the situation is unequal because of biology, but if men could opt out post conception it would be unequal still. I don't believe in trading unequal for unequal.

  • @midimanhello It would not be unequal, women have superior terms of birth control and have multiple methods to prevent pregnancy, before and after sex.

    While men only has one, condoms.

    You have more power and thus have more responsibility.

    Millions of women get abortions all the time, does not sound like they care to me, your argument is bollocks.

    How is giving men this same power unequal, you just sound like a woman defending your golden goose from getting shot.

  • @midimanhello Oh boo ho, a woman has to live up to the choice she made.

    Honey, men been doing that since before you been born, god forbid we expect women to be responsible.

    Woman: Responsibility!? Never heard of it! What is this thing called responsibility!?

  • @midimanhello Equality as many women like you are beginning to find out is not all sugar spice and everything nice, it can have its harsh side to and its not always nice.

    That is equality, women should not have this power over men and a simple document can bring equality but you don't want equality you want femquality.

    We already got a bunch of families breaking part from women forcing men into parenthood and the man leaving because he never wanted to be one, it cannot get worse

  • @midimanhello I know a man personally, a friend of mine I used to hang out with a lot.

    He had sex with a woman, and she got pregnant and forced my friend into fatherhood. She figured if she got pregnant he would marry her.

    My friend is now in financial shackles and depressed, women like you fucking disgust me when you justify this discrimination.

    The only discrimination you care about is your own!

  • @ManSpeakOut you now know another man *Me* who has had this happen to him when i was 17 a 22 yo woman decided she wanted to keep me and got pregnant as we were breaking up they were nice enuf to have the court date for child support on my 18th birthday tho i was shackled for 18 years to that payment untold threats of jail ect and for what? a child i had no say in, i couldnt see and wasnt even an adult when she was concieved , also i could no longer get married or have a family(cont)

  • @fixt100 Yeah no human being should have the kind of power women have in reproduction and some women like midimanhello try to justify this clear one-sided distribution of rights between the genders.

    Just the thought that people justify such an injustice really gets my blood boiling, and after all that advocating for equal rights and equal treatment by many women but when men face their own discrimination that same group of women fall silent in this pursuit.

  • @ManSpeakOut (cont) why couldnt i have a family? because i could no longer afford one...

  • @midimanhello If women can back out of parenthood, despite the wishes of the man involved, then why does the opposite take place when the genders are reversed in this situation?

  • @midimanhello The only reason this has not been done yet is thanks to the courrpt family courts.

    If this was enshrined in law, their pockets will get hit HARD. Cause most of their money comes from this new unstable form of the family unit.

    The more families break up and fall apart, the more money they make from enforcing child support orders.

    They WANT women to have children out of wedlock and to have bastard children, cause it lines their pockets with lots of money.

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  • @1menaregood1 After conception there can be no other way. A financial abortion would be devastating to a woman, a physical one maybe even more so. If it wasn't an issue of the developing child inside of her body it would not be such a sensitive issue.

  • @1menaregood1 There is a need for a male birth control pill. Until then the playing field will never be leveled.

  • @MissHystic What could happen is the father could have a "financial abortion." Meaning that if he doesn't want it, and the mom does, he can choose not to be held financially accountable for it. This would at least leave men with some reproductive rights. Women can't be forced to have a baby or abort it, the psychological effects could be horrible. However, the same applies to a man that is forced to pay for the child that he doesn't even want. That situation is even bad for the child.

  • @mcdonaldbrian93 I would say it is worse for a society where a man who does not want to pay for a child that already exists will push that burden onto society in the form of welfare services for the woman and child.

  • I have a question, out of those few men that get full custody of their kids, how often are the women required to pay child support?

  • @Kamidake83 I have seen a few scenarios where women pay some child support but I have more often seen situations where fathers' have full custody and the mother OWES child support but never pays. Every time I have seen this (and it has been in multiple states) the authorities are non-responsive. I have seen women who owed huge amounts of child support where the man went through all the proper channels and they didn't lift a finger. Talk about infuriating! Double standard.

  • @1menaregood1 Yeah this was the kind of response i was expecting. And my parents wonder why i don't have kids yet. Anyways thank you.

  • @Kamidake83 According to the US Dept of Health and Human Services:

    29.9% of custodial fathers receive a support award (compared to 79.6% for custodial mothers);

    46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support (compared with 26.9% of non-custodial fathers)

    I am afraid I could not find statistics on how non-responsive the authorities are to women defaulters.

    Bottom line: women are less likely to pay child support, and more likely to default on it.

  • @Arxces Thanks for looking this up. Actually I am surprised it's not any worse than double. Hard to get stats on not enforcing rules when women are the offenders. The world is strewn with white knights.

  • @1menaregood1 Nothing wrong with being a white knight, but fairness and justice must come first. I believe, with no evidence to back this, that the stats we look for are hard to find due to self-censorship in government and academia. You're not gonna get that research grant for researching an 'unpopular' topic such as discrimination against men. You're not gonna get into office unless you are popular with the feminist vote.

  • @Arxces There is plenty wrong with white knightism if it is one-sided, expected, unreciprocated, and completely unappreciated. Add to that the common male bashing that follows any man who stands up for actual equality and you get a real problem. This of course, goes on unconsciously and most people simply lack even a rudimentary awareness of this process. This too is a part of the problem.

  • @1menaregood1 We are in agreement then because "one-sided, expected, unreciprocated, and completely unappreciated" sounds to me like unfairness and injustice. I would agree that male bashing is a real problem, especially the shaming as it completely shuts down any rational discourse and sets aside all the statistics. As you said this is all subconscious.

    What, then, do we do? Should we still use rational arguments? Or shall we copy the feminists and engineer a trope of male victimhood?

  • @Arxces MRA's would never sink as low as the feminists. Rational thinking, logic, statistics, and other evidence will always trump the feminists every time.

    Slowly but surely, people are beginning to warm up to the Men's Rights Movement.

  • @ManSpeakOut this is why they are feminizing science and schools theres a few vids on here already that speak about this going out and looking for facts that fit the conclusion ect. but you are right about ppl warming up to the idea of the MRM all it takes is for them to see the truth

  • This is crap.

  • we all know women are evil, be a man and stop crying...

  • @guitarjunky87 Yea you need to take your "man up and take it" bs someplace else, that attitude is part of the problem...but lets just hope you get hit with one of the issues discussed in the vid, preferably a divorce (AKA getting fucked by your ex)

    Then we will see how long that manup attitude lasts LOL, fucking dumbass.

  • Quality video...thanks

  • Google: Martha Laura Granados Immigration Prostitute

    The VAWA Immigration Loop-hole:

    If you are a woman, pretend to be in love with a US citizen or a Legal Resident, get him to marry you. As soon as you got the marriage certificate dial 211 and falsely accuse him of Domestic Violence and Rape and move to a VAWA shelter.

    You will be on a fast-track for a Green-Card and US citizenship - all expenses paid for by the US tax payer and as a bonus you will be getting full social benefits.

  • @EileenKStadtner That's a very overly simplistic way of looking at things.

    Men are also the reason you are living in a brick house or apartment that has running water, electrictiy, and heating, and not some grass that's so cold you can see your air in front of your face.

  • Zain844 basically said what there is to say about you (Karlsmith00). Nothing more to add.

  • @karlsmith00 Arguing with you is like arguing with a feral dog.

    So far you have contributed nothing intelligent to this discussion whatsoever. You are a troll nothing more.

    You have nothing to offer. you contribute nothing.

    I do not wish to hear from you, i do not have any interest in anything you have to say. Any response you give me, will be ignored.

    Goodnight.

  • Where did you get that statistic about 40% of rape cases being false?

  • @StewieSwan The research of Kanin showed that in a midwestern town 41% of the rape accusations were false. Kanin prior to this finding was a feminist favorite but once this data came out he quickly became an enemy. Archives of Sexual Behavior, Feb 1994 v23 n1 p81(12)

    There are many who have tried to discredit this study but I think if you look closely at the methodology you will see that it was sound. google "Why RADAR Finds McDowell's Research and Kanin's Research Credible" for more info

  • @StewieSwan There is also two other false rape studies not cited in this video, one is the McDowell air force study that confirms 60% of rape allegations to be false, the other is an FBI study that confirms at least 25% of rape allegations to be false.

    I have both of those studies as well as the Kanin one if you want them.

  • Fourth: history has proven that ruling by opression, killing (and all the other men stuff) never works. So if women are so much better, don`t you think that they`d be head of everything by now?

  • @KeskinTRS i think that misses the point entirely, it shouldnt be about who is better, men or women, men and women should not be competing with eachother, they should be helping and loving eachother.

    Dont bother trying to have an intelligent debate with this karlsmith00 or whatever their name is just look at their posts. This person is not capable of having an intelligent or rational conversation about this subject. She will just call you names and tell you to shoot yourself.

  • @Zain844 I was not trying to state who`s better and of course there`s always a second side to the coin.

    I like women and obviousely we need each other but saying that men are responsible for most of the agression, cruelty, killing and basically screwing up the world is simply not true.

    Equality brings responsibility so in order to be truely equal, sooner or later women have to stop hugging all the nice because the bad is also here to be shared equally.

  • @KeskinTRS I agree if women want to be truly equals. They need to take equal responsibility. The thing is though that all the bad that men have done is VASTLY outweighed by the good men have done. Men didnt screw up the world if anything they made it better. and I highly doubt women could do a better job running the world. Hell the only reason women can do anything at all outside of the home is becuase of men. The technology that men built allowed women to be useful in the workforce.

  • @karlsmith00 I don`t know what your problem is but I was just sharing some of my thoughts and experiences here and now you try to argue with taliban, genocide and killing.

    Let me start simple: Men have to butcher more animals because women also eat meat.

    Second: women don`t go to war because they are physically weaker so they send their sons and benefit from the spoils afterwards.

    Third: get a calculator, go to a library and look which societies killed the most humans in history.

  • Go ahead and have a look at this, retard. Looks like your line of thinking just got blasted out of the water.

    bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/glan­ce/tables/vsxtab.cfm

  • @karlsmith00 "JUST DIE. go kill yourself. ............... SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FACE, YOU'RE WORTHLESS."

    Not spewing hatred? Then what do you call it? You are fucking MENTAL. I am pretty sure you're just a troll but I'm starting to think not. Regardless, you are fucking NUTS! You go on the internet to find people to argue with because your life is worthless. Did you ruin all of your friendships by spewing hatred so now you have to come to youtube to spread it? Holy shit you're fucking KOOKY.

  • @karlsmith00 Do you even realize how bad your hatred spewing mouth makes you look? And men are crazy huh? You sound batshit insane, cunt. Yep, I said CUNT.

  • @karlsmith00 You mad? LOL You definitely have a vagina between your legs. Save the hate for someone who gives a damn, lady.

    Y U SO MAD?

  • @karlsmith00 Here we see the traditional response to men voicing their needs: Shaming. It's this shaming of men as a group by telling them they're not good enough that's used so effectively by all parts of our culture to keep men in line and providing, protecting and sacrificing. When most men get this shaming message they will ignore their own needs and try harder to be "real men." Here's a newsflash for ya karlsmith00: It aint working here. Argue issues, and get some compassion for men.

  • @karlsmith00 "JUST DIE. . you're a crazy ignorant piece of trash and your mother should have aborted you. SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FACE, YOU'RE WORTHLESS."

    Its good to see how your true colors comes out and how you really make all women look bad on their part. People say that women are compassionate and caring but the way you talk all this trash and violence against all men really does hurt your cause and gives all women a bad name. You are hateful and really disfunctional.

  • @karlsmith00 now you're mad? hahaha that's ok. that tells me my comment struck a nerve. not picking fights is the mature thing to do. Kudos to Zain844 for walking away from you. Just like a girl to bring drama and arguing wherever she goes. fidgety fidgety fidgety fidgety fidgety.....

  • @bloodypandahachiroku The best thing to do with trolls like her is to just ignore them and block them. She's not worth my time. Or yours.

  • @Zain844 I just marked all her comments for spam. blocking's a good idea too!

  • @Zain844 Yeah i am with the Mens Rights Activist and i thought i needed to put this Karlsmith00 in her place because of the garbage she spews out and how she is really hurting the cause for women who say they want to be equal and be treated equal to man.

  • @karlsmith00 Futhernmore you are actively provoking me to use physical violence towards women, This is very telling and says more about you then it does about me. Cowardly women will actively provoke men into using violence against them and then hide behind the legal system. You are proving to me that women are cowardly and manipulative..

  • @karlsmith00 you must be a woman. everybody dislike her comments so they'll be hidden. i'm not gonna fight with a girl. i'm gonna rise above you and walk away. Have a nice day! :))

  • If you know anyone you think should hear this, but you'd rather give them a book that gives more detail, i recommend 'The Myth of Male Power' by Warren Farrell. His book will really give you a new perspective on all this, in even more detail than this fine video..

  • just think of how much the world would be in unrest if men had their equal rights just like the x chromosomes

  • I'm a woman and a feminist, and I think this video is really well done and enlightening.

  • @1menaregood1 "Quite correct. All too often the boys who are raped by female teachers are considered "lucky" and the rapist is given a wrist slap while the girls who are raped by male teachers are considered scarred for life. Profound double standard and it is the double standards that breed discrimination."

    I would agree this is sick and this is why we need to have the laws changed since the sex crime laws against children aren't equally applyed to both genders.

  • The problem is feminists are controlling the media and the media is corrupted as well.

  • @dulanthad Just look at all this garbage and trash that Karlsmith00 spews out on this YT video.

    I just replyed to her comments just now on this video which should shine some light on this issue how she is giving all women a bad name just by the things she says. Look at most feminist like Karlsmith00, they are FAT, UGLY and NASTY looking women who don't care about anyone much less do they care about themselves. I'm sure she would grow a mustache when given the chance if she can be a man

  • @FemaleSexCrimesExist ignore her she's clearly insane and can't be reasoned with.

    She is like a crazy homeless person who walks up to your car window and presses thier face against the glass drooling like a feral dog and starts spewing incoherent gibberish. You just have to roll up your wndow and keep driving.

  • I put a link in the above info box. I think this is what ManSpeakOut is referring to. SUMMARY Fiebert Bibliography examines 282 scholarly investigations: 218 empirical studies and 64 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 369,800.

  • Whenever I speak about men's issues or men's rights, my words are demeaned as the "rants of a loser who has been rejected by some woman". It is such a shame. :(.

  • @pleasantleethedragon

    Yeah, they only retort with shaming tactics as they have nothing substantive to reply with. I tend to focus my attention on people who are already questioning the status quo as they are receptive to new ideas.

  • @Monad01 Hmmmmmm.

  • Could you please post the link of that study?

    And yes, boys certainly choose their fathers as their first role models/hero but that can change after puberty kicks in, yet the bond to the mother somehow stays strong.

    But I can only speak from personal experience and from what I've seen.

  • @1menaregood1 holy shit i'm a guy and i didn't even know over half od these issues

  • Honestly I don't know but I'm sure that I'd rather have two of my arms broken than being subject to psychological agression for two years, which may lead to change of personality, menthal illnesses, loss of family and friends etc. etc. or even suicide.

  • @KeskinTRS and women are as physically aggressive or more physically aggressive then men in their relationships.

    I got a great source that has a list of studies that all support that finding.

    Out of all those studies it researched 116,000 people..

  • @ManSpeakOut Please post that link. Thanks :)

  • I want to make an addition to my older comment. Classifications of physical harm (light to heavy) are pretty clear, the difference between a bloody nose vs. a stab wound is obvious and clearly differenciated in law.

    But how do you clearly define levels of psychological harm in such a precise way?

  • @KeskinTRS Its like saying a boy who grew up to be a pro baseball player, his role model of which being his father who was also a ball player had no influence in the boy in deciding he would grow up to be a ball player and only chose to become a pro ball player because his mother raised him to.

    Its common for a boy to look up to a role model and strive to be like them.

    That is the drive for many of those men to do great things.

  • Funny how women are seem as "incapable of evil" yet they commit far more evil on a daily basis than men do. More often in more petty ways, but they are capable of far more vindictiveness, vengeance and coldly calculating revenge than men ever do. Revenge and vengeance are part of their very nature and makeup. Even if she is just giving you an attitude or holding onto something you did months ago for a later time, that is all a form of revenge for her pathetic perceived wrongs.

  • Here is another good video about the disposablity of men in the media and more.

    Misandry - Men Don't Exist

    /watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A

  • My boyfriend loves to watch a show called 'Deadliest Catch', haven't seen a woman on one of those boats yet. The men who work on them can't even get life insurance.

  • Thats what makes us man. We Dont Give A Fuck.

  • I don't agree that "Men's Studies" programs should be a larger part of the educational system. Women's Studies, African-American Studies, Chicano Studies, and other pseudo-academic subjects are only in place to give substandard intellects the appearance of legitimacy in academia. As men, we should stick to real academic disciplines like engineering, medicine, the law, and mathematics. We need to remain academically fit so we can confront the pervasive misandry we encounter every day.

  • @DartmouthAlum96 Excellent point. A more productive tactic might be to try and de-emphasize all of the "people studies" as being less than academic. I fear this would be a difficult task considering the strangle hold they have over the academy. Male studies is taking a male-friendly approach that goes along with the prevalent current rather than totally upsetting the apple cart. It's heart breaking to see our universities so beholden to ideology rather than truth. So much for scientific method.

  • @DartmouthAlum96 there are already men's studies programs. they're called history, business, government, etc. that's what males got away with for thousands of years when they kept women in the home picking up after them.

    there is no pervavise misandry. you're just a stupid deluded loser who can't take the fact that your life is a failure and it's your fault. stop flapping your lips and get a job. you're never going to be a doctor or lawyer. so face it.

    men's time is done. step aside.

  • 3:41

    the commercial with Justin Timberlake getting hit in the balls repeatedly I think it's hilarious, were it any other male I'd take issue. if it were a female it would be banned content i'm sure.

  • I disagree on the cunt punt bit. It's just as funny when a chick gets a boot to the genitals.

  • One thing I hate hearing is how feminists assume that women never invented anything because they were "oppressed" (as if they're 1940's jews or something, don't kid yourselves). It was really the entire peasant class that was oppressed, females in the nobility were content to just be courted.

    What did they think men were doing? Lulling about in their private laboratories all day? No, they were either breaking their backs in the fields, the mines, or dying in wars.

  • Does this fucking moron even know what a girl's circumcision is? It is COMPLETELY different from male circumcision.

  • @Gunslinger145 You sound way more moronic then he is, his point is why don't we just ban circumcision for both genders? That is the question he was asking.

    Learn to understand English.

  • @ManSpeakOut

    If male circumcision was anywhere near as brutal as a female's then it would make sense. Cutting off the clitoris isn't even comparable to losing the foreskin. I myself am not circumcised and to be honest I don't think it makes a huge difference in a man's life, but to even compare those 2 procedures is just absurd. Since you're defending it I can only assume you are as narrow minded as the person who made this video.

  • @Gunslinger145 Oh so you rate it by brutality, a rather stupid way to rate it.

    The choice to be circumcised should not be made by another person, what happened if the baby boy grows up and did not want to be circumcised? Just tell him "my bad"?

    You truly are a narrow minded individual who clearly does not think things the whole way through.

    They are circumcising boys right after birth, regardless of what he would think when he grows up, but women are protected.

  • @Gunslinger145 You can get circumcised at anytime in your life, so its stupid to have it done to a baby before he could make that choice for himself, I call it mutilation when you do it to a person without their confirmed consent.

    Which is why I say it should prohibited for both genders and not just women, course you rate by brutality so you don't give a shit.

  • @Gunslinger145 How would you feel if your parents had you circumcised while you were a baby, and you had to live with a choice they made for you for the rest of your life, especially if that was not what you wanted?

    Women never have to worry about that, but men sure as hell do.

    Pray that you were not born into a family with parents who think its ok to do such a thing before you could think for yourself.

  • @ManSpeakOut

    So you deleted the other comment? You're clearly biased on this subject and are not looking at it objectively. For a man being circumcised or uncircumcised is not a life-changing fact, however for a woman it is. A foreskin is nothing compared to a clitoris, and I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that. You say to "Pray" that I wasn't circumcised, but wasn't circumcision a command made by God?

  • @Gunslinger145 I didn't delete a damn thing, I never do.

    "For a man being circumcised or uncircumcised is not a life-changing fact, however for a woman it is."

    Regardless its not a choice a person can make over someone else's body. Remember how people went nuts over men demanding a say on what a woman did with her body regarding pregnancy? People got angry over that

    So if you support circumcision to men alone, then I guess you support men having a say on what women do with their bodies

  • @Gunslinger145 You say to "Pray" that I wasn't circumcised, but wasn't circumcision a command made by God?

    What I mean by that is thats all a man can do is hope, because he can not grow up to the point he can make that choice himself.

  • @Gunslinger145 Its not life changing no matter if you're circumcised or not.

    There is no immediate reason to circumcise, so doing it to the baby at birth and having someone else making the decision on what to do with your body is wrong.

    Drop the double standard.

    If women have rights on what happens to their bodies, then men should have the same power.

  • @ManSpeakOut

    I don't know why you feel the need to bring abortion into this or start discussing "choice." The original point was that female and male circumcision are completely different and shouldn't be compared (just like abortion and circumcision). Seeing how you have the name "ManSpeakOut" I can only assume your some fool who believes that men are being oppressed by society and for some reason circumcision is a HUGE problem that completely destroys people's lives.

  • @Gunslinger145 Its because its on the same principle.

    If a woman have the right to control their bodies, men should have the right to do the same. Circumcision is included.

    and no I do not think its a large problem but a problem none the less, you cannot give one gender a right and deny it to the other.

    Whats so wrong in making the "My body, my choice" motto apply to everyone and not just women, or are you deep down one of the biased who prefer giving women special rights and privileges?

  • @ManSpeakOut

    I'm done wasting time with you.... This was a topic on being stupid enough to compare male/female circumcision, it has nothing to do with "choice." I don't know where you got the vibe I was so pro-choice (seeing how I didn't mention it ONCE), but I hope you're able to fight the tyranny and withstand all the injustices that we must face as men. Society is constantly holding me down and we really need people like you to show us why we are so mistreated.

  • @Gunslinger145 My argument from the very beginning was about giving men the power of choice women had ages ago. Reading back proves that, and thanks I will do my best to get the message out.

  • @Gunslinger145 Comparing male and female circ = "stupid?" Don't think so. The World Health Org lists three types of female genital mutilation, 1,2 & 3. Male circ is comparable to types 1 and 2. QUOTE: It is also important to note that most of the nerves and pleasure receptors present in the clitoris are, in the male, present in the foreskin and its associated structure, the frenulum. Removal of these nerves constitutes a loss that can be most adequately compared to a partial clitoridectomy.

  • @Gunslinger145

    You prove only capable of speaking in broad useless absolutes, a fool indeed. Something has to 'completely destroy lives' to matter rather than something causing serious harm. Male and female circumcision are different, they are not 'completely different'. In fact, their differences are of the trivial variety while their similarities are material.

  • @ManSpeakOut Women never have to worry about circumcision? What a stupid statement. There are women who are 'circumsized', if you want to call mutilation circumcision, all over the world and it's not their choice either.

  • @Gunslinger145 The only one who should really have a say on what is done to a person's body is the person who has to live with it. Leave the choice up to the person who has to live with the decision, remember "My body, my choice"? What happened to that, oh wait that only applies to females does it? How stupid of me! ;)

  • Simple: Don't marry.

  • @NoobsAreUsh I think this will actually be more prevalent in the future due to the inequality inherent in the risks of marriage and divorce.

  • Total poppycock, I have done everyone of these things myself for my myself.

  • If you think that history was made by men while women were at home cooking and nitting then you`re wrong.

    First of all, males are mostly brought up by mothers, this point alone should be sufficient enough to show the impact that women had/have, just think about it for a minute.

    Both genders have agression, my personal observation is that men are openly agressive while women use psychological and social methods. Psychological agression is far more harmful than physical, that`s a fact!

  • @KeskinTRS Government uses psychological warfare as does the media, the military, and various businesses. We are constantly bombarded with biast opinions, half-truths, and psychological bullshit and most of that is not from women. Also, you really have no scientific proof in your statement as what's more harmful. In the first place physical aggression also causes great psychological damage but I noticed you left that out as if men shouldn't take responsibility for the damage they cause.

  • @KeskinTRS I know it's 3 months late, but your comment as follows:

    "Psychological aggression is far more harmful than physical, that is a fact"

    Made me remember something I heard once, probably in a video game, but leave the cheesiness aside ;P

    Went something like: "There are many ways to kill a man. Flesh that burns. Bones that break. But to break a man's spirit is to truly destroy him".

    And between men and women, it is women who are overwhelmingly superior at such a skill.

  • @KeskinTRS Incorrect, and plus you are trying to give women credit they should not be taking.

    Its like saying that a women give birth to those men and thus deserve credit for the things they do, I call bullshit on that.

    Males follow male role models as the heroes they look up to, like how a boy would look up to his father or to some great man like Abraham Lincoln and strive to be like his hero.

    I am one who lives to give credit where it is due, and there is none to be given here.

  • @KeskinTRS female agression is not a problem in the world. our "psychological" agression doesn't result in mass shootings, societies like the taliban, mass rape, terrorism, and genocide. that's what's harmful, and that's what men do.

    i don't understand what is going on with the male mind. you're all crazier and stupider than ever before. go get help before you snap like that crazy prick in norway.

  • Modern women deserve Sharia law

  • @GenMata thanks for proving my point. too bad you're too stupid to understand that.

    then we wonder why the world is so messed up. men have too many rights, and you're one of them. go drink bleach.

  • @karlsmith00 I didn't prove any points of yours nasty mouth.

  • @GenMata wow, a delicate little flower got offended by my use of the word "stupid."

    get a job, dumb bitch. my point is that males are irrational and violent. muslims are the worst, but just because they can get away with more. here you are saying we deserve to be beaten by husbands, whipped, and stoned to death. you prove my point. now run along.

  • @karlsmith00 You are a foul mouth little brat talking crap

    get a life you waif

  • You're right, men are disposable.

  • @sodoffyawanker oh looky its the feminist again lol well feminist at least you admit to being nothing but a misandric bitch, now if you could just convice the other fems to come out and admit that they are nothing but manhating hoes that would be great.

    Thanks in advance bitch its appreciated.

    Signed

    brokenglassbottleinyavagina

  • Excellent video OP. I've never really noticed just how bad men are looked down on. I've always thought women had it bad but this has opened my eyes :) Thanks OP

  • @SilusBotwin i know. someone needs to show this to all the poor opressed men in afghanistan, yemen, the congo, saudi arabia. the women tehre just treat them terribly. dumb bitch.

  • @karlsmith00 lol thats some good sarcasm right there. I think.......

  • @SilusBotwin i thought i made it obvious enough so even the male mind, which has problems processing language, can pick up on it.

    you need to do this. go to afghanistan and teach those people about how badly men are looked down upon. there are so many boys that walk to school with the fear of women throwing acid in their face, not the other way around.

    you're a stupid bitch.

  • The feminist movement ruined everything... The only positive aspect was women were allowed to work and do more things. But now they take advantage and treat us as expendable. It's disgusting. What happened to REAL equality? Man grabs woman, he gets arrested. Woman hits man, it's taken lightly. Even by policemen! I long for the 50s... And that was I period I didn't even live to see, but it seems so nice...

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  • Should be shown in schools.

  • The point of my posting is...

    Females do not choose the winners in most mammal and reptile species. Males fight to the acute or attrition-al marginalization and then impregnate the females left over. Her choice is negated by them combat.

    Indeed "stopping" her choice is ultimately the point of the male vs male combat.

    Bird females choose.

    Go to my blogspot seanmaccloud (link in my channel profile here). Read the "fundamentals" and Matriarchy of the past there. Learn.

  • @SeanMacCloud Yes they do it was the part of reproductive strategy for thousands of year for humans and animals.

    The strongest and most dominant males are selected for mating by the most beautiful and fertile females.

    Males fight one another to prove to the females that they are the strongest of the strong.

  • @ManSpeakOut

    Male mamms n' repts fight each other to the marginalization and death. The territory won will be bigger than the female(s') food supply territory.

    You have been indoctrinated by a cult that succeed in making the female the focal point for "empowerment" reasons. Mens Rights has now embraced it.

    Female-sex-value IS a bottleneck -and thus catalyst of ALL competition- but all species' fems aren't picking.

    Go to my blog and read the Matriarchy of Past label and Fundamentals.

  • Hospitals "select" for new variants just as man has "selected" chihuahua from a wolf litter. But that is not the END of natural selection. It is simply selecting for a new strain.

    Hospital are breeding man into a new strain. BUT it isn't the "end of evolution." Hospitals could be called be dysgenic.

    (Prereq: Good /bad are relative; "eu-genics"/ "dys-genics" are relative but "genics" --selecting-- is always happening. "Evolution doesn't mean "more good". It simply means change over time. )

  • I'm definitely interested in these issues, but I gotta ask, where'd you get the song?!! It's so soothing!

  • @megabrowser17 Glad you liked the music. It's from an album by Steve Roach called "Dreamtime Return" and the cut is called "The Continent." If you google "steve roach dreamtime return" you will get a number of links including the wiki page about the album. It was done in conjunction with a documentary in Australia on the Dreamtime concept of the Aborigines. I think youtube has some clips. search for "structures from silence" or "the other side." came out in 1988, he was ahead of his time.

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  • We do have a men studies program...it's called History.

  • @Boredpersons55 This is a common misconception. History has been about alpha's. Males and some females who were the best of the best or the worst of the worst. That's what a newspaper is filled with. History has not been about common men or common women. As you can see from this video common men are having multiple troubles and no one seems to be aware or be concerned. This is the way of misandry and gynocentrism. Your comment seems to indicate you are one of those who don't care. Do you?

  • @1menaregood1

    I was making a joke stating that nearly all great accomplishment was the work of men.

    And I do care, again I was making a joke.

  • @Boredpersons55 omg, soooo cliché, and most importantly, soo totally wrong.

  • @Boredpersons55 you are not one of those people that this history stands for "his story" are you?

  • it's not just agianst females if you ask me its, why havent a white man ever gotton a special schorlarship for being white? i get that white people enslaved and discriminated african american people but that was a long time ago and i don't think that anybody in todays generation was around back then. -.-

  • @imachick54

    The Irish "indentured servants" here in America where treated FAR worse than most african slaves.

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  • Excellent video. Very well done.

  • Watching this video makes me want to punch a woman in the mouth.

  • @Zain844 Love your comment!! I definitely agree hahahaha!!!

  • @bloodypandahachiroku oh my god look, a stupid irrational male supporting another stupid irrational male on a video trying to claim males aren't stupid and irrational!

    then we wonder why the world is so fucked up. go drink bleach.