@RealationGames Yeah, you guys had your Christmas holliday, so are we we don't have xmas, but i have like 15days holliday, end of 1st simester of school :p
hey any advice how to pass this holliday without gaming or going out? Home Advices on how to kick it allone??? that would be really helpful :)
what engine the game is runing on? what progam u use to make AN FPS GAME ?
Well, if not going out then I make games(and other related), electronics and stuff, watch animated sitcoms or something like that. Pointlessly wander around internet.
Anyways I recommend going out playing hockey etc. instead.
I think there will be various, about 10 sniper rifles with real life properties in the game. I just wanted to bring this up for testing because it's good rifle, Finnish, police force uses it, and it's not one of those typical COD sniper rifles.
I like the scope recoil when you are ads the textures on the arms could be changed, make sure to add in things like random wind movement throughout the bullets flight path, add some features that allow you to have more gun customization. There ya go
As the disclaimer says, textures are just for place holding. In fact, those have been changed when I made the full body system, check out newer vids.
Ballistics will be added later. Customization in limits of real life properties, which means pretty much none. There won't be any GL, laser sight, silenced, heart beat sensor, reflex sight, double magazine COD rifles.
@RealationGames not exactly what i meant i mean things like multiple different guns barrets and things a silencer might be useful though changing things like range and bullet drop maybe some random gun jamming.
Actually it's the opposite. In movies or games bullet makes only a red hole and some blood gusts out, but nothing else really. In real life most calibers over 9mm will rip the head and brains apart. .50cal can in fact break off limbs, and when shot to face head will be blown in parts to neck. Bodyshots are less gory though.
Maybe too much blood but way too less gore. See real life shots to head, google "bestgore"(READ WARNING).
@RealationGames My point is that if you shoot someone in the chest, there isn't any 1m blood splash, usually just a hole, and blood pulping. I have watched a lot execution vids and there isn't any huge amount of blood. I agree that gore thing, and with headshots, but if the person dies immediately there isn't THAT much blood because heart don't pump any blood anymore, but it doesn't really matter cause it's a helluva mess already XD.
You mean the 2 camera scope? That is because it's a massive resource hog, it takes 1920x1080 resolution AND 512x512 for the scope, which takes about 1/3 of the fps(performance has to be taken away from graphics). And it's more difficult to make, which costs money for developers. And mainstream audience isn't familiar with correct scopes anyways, most kids think the eye has to be in the scope.
For more, see my other videos, there is definently more.
@RealationGames I'd love for you to make a game like this, so please let me add my thoughts. IMHO the scope view is not like it is in real life. You cannot simulate what the two human eyes see in real life, so I wouldn't take that approach. Comparing it directly to my scope, it seems like the scope fov should be at least twice what it is here. These effects are cool but honestly this looks nothing like when you are actually looking down a high powered scope.
@thelister4910 The current view looks a lot more like you are stiffly carrying a rifle with a scope with huge eye relief on top 2 feet in front of your face. What you need is to somehow imitate how the eye puts all of its focus on the scope, and the rest of the view just kind of fades out. I think maybe making a good portion of the non-scope field of view fade to black would really help this effect. That and make the scope image larger.
@thelister4910 I know a lot of people shoot scopes with both eyes open, and I think that's what you're trying to imitate here, but I think you would be better off trying to imitate a view with the left eye closed. The scope needs to appear larger compared to everything else, and more dominant, as now it doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the view. I think blacking out a large part of the view with the scope up would help with your FPS too. I can't wait to see where this goes.
It would be kind of possible to create texture editor, but there is no way to make AI recognize custom camouflages. There is only 1 best option to camouflage anyways though, I don't see why there would be customization in singleplayer.
I don't even know am I going to make nature environments because of the slow engine.
Thanks for the suggestion though! Post every idea you got, even if it's not possible to make, I might figure something else out of them.
Well it doesn't have any damage at all yet. The final game will be realistically bloody(so way more gore than in normal games)
I will make some kind of target shooting also, and if you need I can customize another version that is suitable for all ages and includes only target shooting...
In fact the engine is quite ready for target only stuff. I will make the ballistics first. Contact me if you have any creative, fun ideas for targets to use in the game for kids :)
@TreeBeardIsMyTeacher Well, personally I like all the COD games, because, well, their fast packed, and entertaining, but definitely the biggest problem is the community. Every player is some 8 yo kid or some 20 yo who thinks his sooo good. But absolutely the best cod is the second one.
I got to agree with that. Game business now is about the business, not the game. COD4 was actually a good game, but nobody would say it out loud today because WaW, MW2 and BO. I'm talking about the singleplayer though, never touched the multiplayers more than 1 hour.
That aiming looks unrealistic. The scope should be closer to players eye. Anyways this looks good, I hope it will become the best sniping game available :)
Of course it will be free roam, but if it's going to be SWAT sniping, it would be practically just shooting from predetermined place. I will try to make deployable sniper so you can fix it on any surface...
wow, just found this. Can't wait! you rock man. What are you using to make this? It looks like kinda like the engine novalogic uses for its delta force/joint ops games.
I'm not going to compete with COD at all, nor any games that exist because there isn't any sniping simulations out there. I think mainstream COD players might find this too time consuming and difficult. It's possible to enjoy both though.
Nope, it has nothing to do with simulations. It's just another shooter with snipers only, I have the first one and haven't even finished it because the horrible AI. Also it lacks the immersion because the incompetence(way they talk and operate) of the shooter and spotter. the It really brings nothing new to the table.
It does have Chrome Engine 4(first one) though. Second one is CryEngine 3 I guess.
@RealationGames this game is what i have been waiting for. when do you think you could release at least one mission or just a shooting sandbox to let us see your progress?
That is part of the animations. Check the new "Sniper simulation game WIP 2 *NEW*" though, there it's done with left hand(as you can ssee from the thumbnail).
It is really hard though to use left hand to trim while weapon is not on bipod, no way to keep it steady. But it isn't trimmed while standing anyways.
Another suggestion, not game related but, you should get an external HDD (Futureshop or any electronics store where your from) and put the game on there. Just so you can have a better FPS for yourself.
Oh yeah, I can help a little with the mapping, but I've only used the Unreal one for AA and S.W.A.T. 4, and Deer Hunter 2004 (But I suck at that one, because I don't know how to use it).
I can hook you up with a few testers too, slowly creating a DEVgroup.
The HDD is really not a problem but only when I'm recording, because it needs to save 2-4 gigs of video for few minutes. I did buy new hard drive few months ago and I've now 1700Gb of storage space.
I don't obviously have any tools or pre-made objects etc. for level designing so they have to be designed with a pen & paper and use 3D modelling program, not just placing objects but actually making them from scratch.
No need for testers now, and testers aren't really part of developers :)
@RealationGames Xfire usually does a good job at recording, and compressing, but you would have to toy with it to accept your game. 10 minutes is usually around5-10 minutes, depending on the resolution.
Haha, doing it all old school I guess eh :P.
I meant like some of both, dev team and a tester team.
ARMA2 is a a great game, but it's not really a dedicated sniper simulation. It does have 1:1 ballistics, but lacks some essential feeling of a sniper, for example it uses fullscreen scope, doesn't have visual trimming, ground based debree when shot etc. features.
Neither it has a plot based story for sniper, you know a script like in movies.
I don't think there is too much games anyways, especially sniper games. This doesn't prevent playing ARMA2, both can be played or either one
but i think arma 2 dont got any sniper trouble, belive me, on long range snipers they put the full eye on the scope, so that is not unrealistic, oh, and from that i dont know any thing that doesnt make arma 2 a sniping simulator............even you can use ghilie suits, be an civilian with sniper, etc.
What do you think would happen if you shoot a high powered rifle with your eye in contanct/near the scope? Obviously it would puncture the shooters eye. You cannot even see through the scope if you put your eye too close, 6-9cm is the correct lenght.
ARMA2 is definently A+ simulation but less a game, this is aiming to be a simulation with game properties(written story e.g.).
Do you really think there is just too many games :D? Again, this doesn't prevent playing ARMA2 at all.
@RealationGames no, but i like compare this VS arma 2, arma is a physics (i really dont remember how to write that word, sorry) simulation, and animation sim, there are lots of bugs, things that make the arma 2 an unperfect war sim, realistic weather, animations, graphics, physics, etc. but in the war zone, is not a simulation, oh, and tell me:
HOW MANY GAMES DONT USE A FULLSCREEN SCOPE ON SNIPER?
i think almost all of them, wherever you get that weapon, but for arma 2, thats why came out PR mod
New games are meant to push the envelope, move beyond the limit of what has usually been done or was the accepted standard.
I'm not really trying to compete with ARMA2 at all, nor I could if I wanted, they have money and professional team and I'm indie. ARMA2 is the best military simulation, this is sniper simulation, also with properties of regular entertaining part of games. I don't see your point really, why make BC2 if there already is COD?
@RealationGames my point: military simulation should be = than sniper, car/apc drivin simulation, dude, ArmA2 got realistic physics, damage system, animations, etc. and infantry sim, but will not work as a military vehicles simulation on APC, cars, trucks, helicopters, planes, boats, etc. thats wath i want on arma3, a COMPLETE war simulation, not just an infantry and physics simulation...about the air vehicles and maybe water ones, i know PR mod will try to make them real, but i want Arma 3 even
Alright, but I really don't get how it has anything to do with my project? I really want a realistic sniper game. What, would you expect me to do ARMA3? And I'm not that much into military simulations myself, BF2: Project Reality is perfect for me. ARMA2 takes it too far for me, although I do play ARMA2 sometimes.
mmmh..........i really expect a lot from arma 2 PR and arma 3.....i wish all those problems from before become fixed......but even with that, good luck with the sniper sim, oh, and try to make the graphic bests
My suggestion is to be able to make the graphics utter shit so super low enders can play, and also have the visual effects that of Oblivion. You know what I mean..
No hope for low end players even if the graphics suck, sorry. I'm using slow game engine(don't have millions of $ :( ), and another thing is that I'm not that skilled coder so I can't do that optimized code either.
Another thing is that I'm using scope system that requires render the scope also, which is almost double of the rendering pixel amount than reqular scope(thus almost twice slower).
No need to buy it, it will be free. Check out the new video btw.
@RealationGames Understandable. As long as you make the best possible game play possible, so then it would (maybe) get quite popular, get endorsements, make an epic sequel, make more money.. So on..
I'm definently aiming for innovative gameplay and trying to do lots of stuff that has never been done before and I would want to be in games.
I don't think this genre would never get popular, simulations aren't really mainstream. I'd be satisfied if there is atleast one play that will enjoy the game :)
@RealationGames Well this is the starting of the foundation of the greatest most realistic FPS I have ever played to say the lease. This game COULD make it to mainstream, it just has to have everything in it. From A to Z.
I could give you a hand and help you on making textures and stuff, I can't model however, but I'm decent with creating animations if I get used to the animation program..
Keep up the good work though, this DOES look sweet, it's just in the "construction" stages..
Nah, it isn't powerful at all, it is just easy. I'm running empty test level at 100fps, it should be atleast 300fps on empty level so I have room to add stuff until it slows down to 60fps. I could do better optimizing but the engine isn't fast either, no way to add real time shadows and run it even 20fps on high end PC.
I have a suggestion, could you put camo on the gun or a ghillie cover of some sort. and if not, have multiple rifles to choose from that have diffrent statistics and power?
Sure I will, but it is not important now. Those are just the most finishing touches that I could do, but it would be just waste of time because everything else is still undone.
There will be various rifles with real life properties. No point making those yet, I can just add them like 1,2,3 when the gameplay mechanics are done.
damn nice bro, if u have like a beta or if your releasing it ( or if you have already ima check your channel now ) upload a vid about it becouse i just subscribed.
There is "fake" dof using mask, but I have DOF shader and I'm able to add real DOF in matter of minutes, but I'm worried about the performance because I need to render the level another time for DOF shader output and blur it then.
Now I can just blur with the image output, no need to render anything else, but it's very limiting.
Hey why dont you give us the link so we can try it out?No point in making if no one can play.And hell if you are making it there should be a demo right?
Play what? There is nothing to play yet, just an empty test area where you can walk around and animate the player, nothing more. No point releasing that, and there are hundreds of WIP and developer stuff I would have to disable to release playable version.
If it was a ready game why whouldn't I release it? But it will take few years to develop everything.
It will be available when it's ready, you can't play L.A.Noire yet, can you ;)?
Neither, how did you thought that it has to be one of those? Graphics are quite dull, but that is good. Games that are based merely on uber graphics usually just suck.
Unity would be my #2 choice, but it would take lots and lots and lots and lots of work.
I think nobody said that. But Crysis isn't good game because of the graphics, it's fun because of the freedom and 101 ways to kill an enemy. It would be as good as with 2005 graphics. Graphics are few minute fun, gameplay is what matters.
If you think game=graphics, then the best game you can find would be Nvidia Tech demos or something like that.
I'll add more in future, it is not yet time to add more weapon when 0,01% of the basic features are done. Adding new weapons isn't really a current subject.
Yea, one guy does things slower than a team of 25 professionals with big paycheck obvisously, but I keep higher standards for "basic features" as I try to make something that has never been done before.
Everything must be done, there is no pre-set "shooting scripts" or "make the player move like it should be" stuff, they must be coded.
I was stuck with the full body system for 4 months and had little free time so that's why it took so long.
Hi mate, i have been a subscriber scince the first time i saw the sniper vid(3-4 months). And im sitting here wondering, where is an update vid:D Anyways, love your work!
I can't upload new video because I redid the whole player system with full body system, so I've no animations yet, I can't upload video without player animations.
I was ready to upload new video 5 months ago, but then I thought that I'll "just do this one thing". I had to completely redo everything basically.
Not really, in CSS you don't have to figure about your placement, strategy, teamplay or plan anything. It is just about moving and clicking moving targets, but of course you can master that.
When thaking the shot you don't have to think about wind, gravity, barrel temperature, current ammunition, possible heat haze disortion, tactical hitpoint, etc.
It isn't difficult or challenging, it is repetive.
Your best FPS doesn't mean it's the best FPS for everyone, because there isn't one.
I'm not arguing with this, it needs different skills, like "good aim and fast reflexes" excatly, but not that much thinking before acting. These same skills along with everything else is needed in simulations.
Your FPS wouldn't be suitable for me for example, and not suitable for the people who play ARMA and PR.
I can recommend BF2: Project Reality for you to test, it is actually pretty damn hard game, _nothing_ like arcade FPSes.
@fpssgamer no your best fps is not the best fps for everyone as i assume people have better taste, no css doesnt rquire skill, i used to play it 1 year ago, played it for a very long time, sniping was just too easy, so i went with zombie mode since i could have fun there, sniping was way too easy no skill needed...and no there is no way css will be needing more skill than our ''realistic games''
ACOG scope? Oh no no no, this will be NOTHING like arcade multiplayer CQC games like CSS, CODs, BC2, etc. Why would I make another arcade FPS?
This will be sniping simulation, why would someone put ACOG scope to a bolt action sniper rifle? Assault rifles can carry well to 300m and they can shoot way faster. Bolt actions are for 500-2500m ranges, ACOG is useless.
TrueCombat looks nice, but it's in whole different genre, and I don't play multiplayer games beside BF2.
Why would someone use bolt action sniper rifle without scope? Tell me one reason why not to use assault rifle?
Sniper Ghost Warrior has nothing to do with simulations, it was pretty much a trailer hoax imo. Yes, it sucked.
I don't want to make ANOTHER arcade FPS. Isn't there enough already?(MW,BC2,CS,SA,CA etc. etc.)
And for that matter, I don't want to "succeed", I want to make a game I would want to play, and I know that there are other people like me, just see the comments.
@RealationGames because the feel is better with a sniper,and you need more skill,if you miss that one shot you are dead
ok,you dont want an arcade shooter but you are focusing on wrong things,some things should be more about enjoyment and less about realism
Make gore,blood,movement realistic
but ok i do understand that you want to make the game you want,i want that too,only difference is if i had money i would make the best fps game of all time
Describe "feel is better". I couldn't "feel" any difference between sniper and assault rifle.
Also, point in the battlefield is to survive, not to take ANY unnecessary risks. There is no respawn in real life.
I will balance some obvious things, well you don't have to eat or go to bathroom in this game. But you know, challange is also enjoyment. Arcade FPSes are way to easy, simple and repetive to some of us. Realism will provide that challange.
@RealationGames If you dont fell the difference between the ar and sniper or shotgun then you just dont love fps games
in real life you dont use a mouse to shot with a sniper etc.....
going to bathroom would be nice,i have nothing against that,and it would be nice if you could piss on peole and things like that,i am serious,why not?it is real
every game is an arcade one,you can play simulations all day long but real life is something different
1. This is sniping game, so obvisously there will be MANY various rifles. The one in the video is TRG-42, which is great rifle, although it isn't presented in any CODs etc.
2. Read the disclaimer @0:00-0:05, it clearly states that commenting animations is unnecessary.
3. You mean the rifle is too _close_? The rifle measurements are 1:1. The scope must be quite close because players don't have screens that would cover our whole 180 degree vision, but mostly 17"-24".
download link? WTF
kamikaze0813 1 month ago
@kamikaze0813
It hasn't been released yet, I've never even claimed so.
Please check out the newer videos, this is way old.
RealationGames 1 month ago
can i get the beta plz
freddiewlover1 3 months ago
download link please
MrJavier102 4 months ago
@MrJavier102
It hasn't been released yet.
Please check out the newer videos, this is way old.
RealationGames 4 months ago
@RealationGames hi ! its 2011 now is it realeased?
MrGratz123xD 2 months ago
@MrGratz123xD
Nope, but there are more recent footage in my channel.
RealationGames 2 months ago
@RealationGames it's 2012 now, NOT RELEASED YETT ? ! ? !
jadellah177 3 weeks ago
@jadellah177
Yes. You think that I do this professionally paid 8 hours a day? Nope, I got school and also other things to do on a daily basis.
RealationGames 3 weeks ago
@RealationGames Yeah, you guys had your Christmas holliday, so are we we don't have xmas, but i have like 15days holliday, end of 1st simester of school :p
hey any advice how to pass this holliday without gaming or going out? Home Advices on how to kick it allone??? that would be really helpful :)
what engine the game is runing on? what progam u use to make AN FPS GAME ?
jadellah177 3 weeks ago
@jadellah177
Well, if not going out then I make games(and other related), electronics and stuff, watch animated sitcoms or something like that. Pointlessly wander around internet.
Anyways I recommend going out playing hockey etc. instead.
RealationGames 3 weeks ago
download?
MrJavier102 4 months ago
Suomen Sako!
Lifeofhalf 4 months ago
@Lifeofhalf
Sako TRG-42 indeed.
Please do watch the new videos, WIP2 and New Features.
Terveiset Suomesta, uutta videota tulee jossain vaiheessa, subbaa jos projekti kiinnostaa.
RealationGames 4 months ago
Sako TRG - 42 is good sniper for this game! I will buy it if it comes out! 5/5!!!!!
MJ12Group 5 months ago
@MJ12Group
Obviously it's not going to be the only rifle ;)
I think there will be various, about 10 sniper rifles with real life properties in the game. I just wanted to bring this up for testing because it's good rifle, Finnish, police force uses it, and it's not one of those typical COD sniper rifles.
Don't worry, the game will be free ;)
Kiitos kommentista.
RealationGames 5 months ago
this is what shit means
Facu4815 5 months ago
I like the scope recoil when you are ads the textures on the arms could be changed, make sure to add in things like random wind movement throughout the bullets flight path, add some features that allow you to have more gun customization. There ya go
usernam569 6 months ago
@usernam569
As the disclaimer says, textures are just for place holding. In fact, those have been changed when I made the full body system, check out newer vids.
Ballistics will be added later. Customization in limits of real life properties, which means pretty much none. There won't be any GL, laser sight, silenced, heart beat sensor, reflex sight, double magazine COD rifles.
RealationGames 6 months ago
@RealationGames not exactly what i meant i mean things like multiple different guns barrets and things a silencer might be useful though changing things like range and bullet drop maybe some random gun jamming.
usernam569 6 months ago
Looks good but really bad :-!
mevlana12345 6 months ago
@mevlana12345
Feel free to be more descriptive. Constructive critic greatly apprectiated, as long as it has nothing to do with graphics.
RealationGames 6 months ago
wheres the download
theshellshock30 6 months ago
@theshellshock30
Nowhere yet.
RealationGames 6 months ago
@RealationGames :( do you know wjen it will be done im desperate for this game
GrizzlyTramp 5 months ago
@GrizzlyTramp
No idea yet :F
RealationGames 5 months ago
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@RealationGames awwww well i'll have to wait then :)
GrizzlyTramp 5 months ago
ill definitely play this ill sub to play it when you release a copy
antho3001 6 months ago
it looks very nice
burakcekili 6 months ago
Remember not to make it too bloody. New games, movies, tv shows all have way too much blood, thats unrealistic, except with .50 cal to a forehead...
goldbullet50 6 months ago
@goldbullet50
Actually it's the opposite. In movies or games bullet makes only a red hole and some blood gusts out, but nothing else really. In real life most calibers over 9mm will rip the head and brains apart. .50cal can in fact break off limbs, and when shot to face head will be blown in parts to neck. Bodyshots are less gory though.
Maybe too much blood but way too less gore. See real life shots to head, google "bestgore"(READ WARNING).
L4D does gore very well.
RealationGames 6 months ago
@RealationGames My point is that if you shoot someone in the chest, there isn't any 1m blood splash, usually just a hole, and blood pulping. I have watched a lot execution vids and there isn't any huge amount of blood. I agree that gore thing, and with headshots, but if the person dies immediately there isn't THAT much blood because heart don't pump any blood anymore, but it doesn't really matter cause it's a helluva mess already XD.
goldbullet50 6 months ago
When this comes out I'd try to be the first one to download it! I wish I was a programmer and could in someway help you get this game out earlier : /
TheBluesons 7 months ago
looks good, but not GOOD ENOUGH >:U
Bloodraven216 7 months ago
@Bloodraven216
Feel free to input improvement ideas...
RealationGames 7 months ago
Sounds interesting, good luck with this project man
Darkassassin0317 7 months ago
Great work, hope you manage to pull this project of. Looking very good. First sniper game that actually looks to be realistic.
TheAwesomeviking 7 months ago
wow-u got skills dude...goodluck bro...GO 4 IT!
samsungdart 7 months ago
Haha yeah I remember the the first time i scoped an actual rifle, I was actually surprised at the distance between the scope and my face. :D
Cvdf3 7 months ago
@RealationGames what software are you using to make this game because i also miss realistic sniper games so i would like to make my own
nicktiny787 7 months ago
God I wish more video games would do this. Or at least have it as an option. Very, very nice excited for more.
Cvdf3 7 months ago
@Cvdf3
You mean the 2 camera scope? That is because it's a massive resource hog, it takes 1920x1080 resolution AND 512x512 for the scope, which takes about 1/3 of the fps(performance has to be taken away from graphics). And it's more difficult to make, which costs money for developers. And mainstream audience isn't familiar with correct scopes anyways, most kids think the eye has to be in the scope.
For more, see my other videos, there is definently more.
RealationGames 7 months ago
@RealationGames I'd love for you to make a game like this, so please let me add my thoughts. IMHO the scope view is not like it is in real life. You cannot simulate what the two human eyes see in real life, so I wouldn't take that approach. Comparing it directly to my scope, it seems like the scope fov should be at least twice what it is here. These effects are cool but honestly this looks nothing like when you are actually looking down a high powered scope.
thelister4910 7 months ago
@thelister4910 The current view looks a lot more like you are stiffly carrying a rifle with a scope with huge eye relief on top 2 feet in front of your face. What you need is to somehow imitate how the eye puts all of its focus on the scope, and the rest of the view just kind of fades out. I think maybe making a good portion of the non-scope field of view fade to black would really help this effect. That and make the scope image larger.
thelister4910 7 months ago
@thelister4910 I know a lot of people shoot scopes with both eyes open, and I think that's what you're trying to imitate here, but I think you would be better off trying to imitate a view with the left eye closed. The scope needs to appear larger compared to everything else, and more dominant, as now it doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the view. I think blacking out a large part of the view with the scope up would help with your FPS too. I can't wait to see where this goes.
thelister4910 7 months ago
when can i download this?
ArschlekkerTheOnly 8 months ago
@ArschlekkerTheOnly
Nowhere yet. Make sure you watch the new video, it's far better! :)
RealationGames 8 months ago
@RealationGames no download? :( but it looks so cool..
ArschlekkerTheOnly 8 months ago
Wow this looks fun. I have seen this program before. What program is it, and is it free?
mario1136 8 months ago
@mario1136
This is rather game/simulation, not a program ;)
Nope, if you have ssen this it must have been only others videos by me in my Youtube.
It will be free, but it's not available yet.
RealationGames 8 months ago
@RealationGames Alright, glad it will be free.
Now I see, you are the creator of this entire game/simulator, right?
mario1136 8 months ago
@mario1136
Yes. Doing it alone from scratch.
RealationGames 8 months ago
@RealationGames Wow
mario1136 8 months ago
how about letting people create their own camoflauge (ghillie suits, reg BDU's)?
NoSkillzNoKills 8 months ago
@NoSkillzNoKills
It would be kind of possible to create texture editor, but there is no way to make AI recognize custom camouflages. There is only 1 best option to camouflage anyways though, I don't see why there would be customization in singleplayer.
I don't even know am I going to make nature environments because of the slow engine.
Thanks for the suggestion though! Post every idea you got, even if it's not possible to make, I might figure something else out of them.
RealationGames 8 months ago
@RealationGames OK i tought it was going to be multiplayer
NoSkillzNoKills 8 months ago
play battlefield 3.its will be better : ) so graphics bad
darknesswolf7 8 months ago
Does it have any blood? Can kids (12 Year old) Play this?
BigFatOldBaldPeople 8 months ago
@BigFatOldBaldPeople
Well it doesn't have any damage at all yet. The final game will be realistically bloody(so way more gore than in normal games)
I will make some kind of target shooting also, and if you need I can customize another version that is suitable for all ages and includes only target shooting...
In fact the engine is quite ready for target only stuff. I will make the ballistics first. Contact me if you have any creative, fun ideas for targets to use in the game for kids :)
RealationGames 8 months ago
Looks cool, have lucky with the project ;)
SV-98 ? xD
onecheman 8 months ago
@onecheman
TRG-42
RealationGames 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
when you will be finished ??
wassim407 8 months ago
Now THIS will be sniping! Dude, keep working on this!
trace13kriken 9 months ago
@TreeBeardIsMyTeacher Well, personally I like all the COD games, because, well, their fast packed, and entertaining, but definitely the biggest problem is the community. Every player is some 8 yo kid or some 20 yo who thinks his sooo good. But absolutely the best cod is the second one.
goldbullet50 9 months ago
@TreeBeardIsMyTeacher
I got to agree with that. Game business now is about the business, not the game. COD4 was actually a good game, but nobody would say it out loud today because WaW, MW2 and BO. I'm talking about the singleplayer though, never touched the multiplayers more than 1 hour.
RealationGames 9 months ago
That aiming looks unrealistic. The scope should be closer to players eye. Anyways this looks good, I hope it will become the best sniping game available :)
goldbullet50 9 months ago
@TreeBeardIsMyTeacher CODs ain't shitty my friend
goldbullet50 9 months ago
looks good till now keep up the good work : )
uhraurhua 9 months ago
WOW HAMMER GRAFIK RESPEKT UND EINFACH GEIL DAS ZIELFERNROHR VOLL REALISTIG
und DIE HAND SIEHT AUS WIE EIN BAUM ECHT GUT besser als call of duty
Timoblitz 9 months ago
@Timoblitz
English please.
RealationGames 9 months ago
@RealationGames
google übersetzer
Timoblitz 9 months ago
@RealationGames
Timoblitz compared your game in a very sartistic and stupid way with CoD .
It looks very good so far. Will i be able to run around or is there a fixed sniping position ?
Do you have a website with more information ?
67BIBA92 8 months ago
@67BIBA92
Of course it will be free roam, but if it's going to be SWAT sniping, it would be practically just shooting from predetermined place. I will try to make deployable sniper so you can fix it on any surface...
RealationGames 8 months ago
@67BIBA92
Btw no website, it's pretty much my Youtube channel. You can ask me anything about the game, public or PM.
RealationGames 8 months ago
has this come out yet i really really want it
415pr88duction333 9 months ago
what game is this!?
dkgreem 10 months ago
@dkgreem
No name yet. Project name goes simply as Sniper simulation. Check out the new video.
RealationGames 10 months ago
finally someone who doesnt use a black screen while aiming
MrBreakaNeck 10 months ago
wow, just found this. Can't wait! you rock man. What are you using to make this? It looks like kinda like the engine novalogic uses for its delta force/joint ops games.
megaterra69 10 months ago
wow, just found this. Can't wait! you rock man. What are you using to make this?
megaterra69 10 months ago
when is it released?
rickchardet01 10 months ago
sounds like its going to be a good time are you planning on selling it or jus free download or what cause i want it!!
Cortines361 10 months ago
@TreeBeardIsMyTeacher
I'm not going to compete with COD at all, nor any games that exist because there isn't any sniping simulations out there. I think mainstream COD players might find this too time consuming and difficult. It's possible to enjoy both though.
RealationGames 10 months ago 14
@RealationGames well there is sniper ghost warrior
alien16759 4 months ago
@alien16759
Nope, it has nothing to do with simulations. It's just another shooter with snipers only, I have the first one and haven't even finished it because the horrible AI. Also it lacks the immersion because the incompetence(way they talk and operate) of the shooter and spotter. the It really brings nothing new to the table.
It does have Chrome Engine 4(first one) though. Second one is CryEngine 3 I guess.
RealationGames 4 months ago
@RealationGames this game is what i have been waiting for. when do you think you could release at least one mission or just a shooting sandbox to let us see your progress?
Ir0nF1st924 4 months ago
when you were adjusting your scope there its allways done with your left hand or else you will have to adjust your body position again...
kristjan117 10 months ago
@kristjan117
That is part of the animations. Check the new "Sniper simulation game WIP 2 *NEW*" though, there it's done with left hand(as you can ssee from the thumbnail).
It is really hard though to use left hand to trim while weapon is not on bipod, no way to keep it steady. But it isn't trimmed while standing anyways.
RealationGames 10 months ago
The gun shouldn't jump that much, many like a little flinch
lolmeadia 10 months ago
@lolmeadia
Jump? Do you mean the swivelling? Check out the new video(Sniper simulation game WIP 2 *NEW*), it is improved actually already.
RealationGames 10 months ago
nice simulator i want it :P
killeroflollipop 10 months ago
Woah! What game engine did you use for this? Or at least wehat base game?!
Nicsmovies 11 months ago
@Nicsmovies
Just darkbasic and this is game made from scratch, not a mod. Check out the new WIP2 video.
RealationGames 11 months ago
Another suggestion, not game related but, you should get an external HDD (Futureshop or any electronics store where your from) and put the game on there. Just so you can have a better FPS for yourself.
Oh yeah, I can help a little with the mapping, but I've only used the Unreal one for AA and S.W.A.T. 4, and Deer Hunter 2004 (But I suck at that one, because I don't know how to use it).
I can hook you up with a few testers too, slowly creating a DEVgroup.
Hell, MMOFPS sounds siiiiiiiiiiick..
zeph53 11 months ago
@zeph53
The HDD is really not a problem but only when I'm recording, because it needs to save 2-4 gigs of video for few minutes. I did buy new hard drive few months ago and I've now 1700Gb of storage space.
I don't obviously have any tools or pre-made objects etc. for level designing so they have to be designed with a pen & paper and use 3D modelling program, not just placing objects but actually making them from scratch.
No need for testers now, and testers aren't really part of developers :)
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames Xfire usually does a good job at recording, and compressing, but you would have to toy with it to accept your game. 10 minutes is usually around5-10 minutes, depending on the resolution.
Haha, doing it all old school I guess eh :P.
I meant like some of both, dev team and a tester team.
zeph53 11 months ago
@RealationGames
..........why to use this when you can use Armed assault 2?
xXxMartin96xXx 10 months ago
@xXxMartin96xXx
ARMA2 is a a great game, but it's not really a dedicated sniper simulation. It does have 1:1 ballistics, but lacks some essential feeling of a sniper, for example it uses fullscreen scope, doesn't have visual trimming, ground based debree when shot etc. features.
Neither it has a plot based story for sniper, you know a script like in movies.
I don't think there is too much games anyways, especially sniper games. This doesn't prevent playing ARMA2, both can be played or either one
RealationGames 10 months ago
@RealationGames
but i think arma 2 dont got any sniper trouble, belive me, on long range snipers they put the full eye on the scope, so that is not unrealistic, oh, and from that i dont know any thing that doesnt make arma 2 a sniping simulator............even you can use ghilie suits, be an civilian with sniper, etc.
xXxMartin96xXx 10 months ago
@xXxMartin96xXx
What do you think would happen if you shoot a high powered rifle with your eye in contanct/near the scope? Obviously it would puncture the shooters eye. You cannot even see through the scope if you put your eye too close, 6-9cm is the correct lenght.
ARMA2 is definently A+ simulation but less a game, this is aiming to be a simulation with game properties(written story e.g.).
Do you really think there is just too many games :D? Again, this doesn't prevent playing ARMA2 at all.
RealationGames 10 months ago
@RealationGames no, but i like compare this VS arma 2, arma is a physics (i really dont remember how to write that word, sorry) simulation, and animation sim, there are lots of bugs, things that make the arma 2 an unperfect war sim, realistic weather, animations, graphics, physics, etc. but in the war zone, is not a simulation, oh, and tell me:
HOW MANY GAMES DONT USE A FULLSCREEN SCOPE ON SNIPER?
i think almost all of them, wherever you get that weapon, but for arma 2, thats why came out PR mod
xXxMartin96xXx 10 months ago
@xXxMartin96xXx
New games are meant to push the envelope, move beyond the limit of what has usually been done or was the accepted standard.
I'm not really trying to compete with ARMA2 at all, nor I could if I wanted, they have money and professional team and I'm indie. ARMA2 is the best military simulation, this is sniper simulation, also with properties of regular entertaining part of games. I don't see your point really, why make BC2 if there already is COD?
RealationGames 10 months ago
@RealationGames my point: military simulation should be = than sniper, car/apc drivin simulation, dude, ArmA2 got realistic physics, damage system, animations, etc. and infantry sim, but will not work as a military vehicles simulation on APC, cars, trucks, helicopters, planes, boats, etc. thats wath i want on arma3, a COMPLETE war simulation, not just an infantry and physics simulation...about the air vehicles and maybe water ones, i know PR mod will try to make them real, but i want Arma 3 even
xXxMartin96xXx 10 months ago
@xXxMartin96xXx
Alright, but I really don't get how it has anything to do with my project? I really want a realistic sniper game. What, would you expect me to do ARMA3? And I'm not that much into military simulations myself, BF2: Project Reality is perfect for me. ARMA2 takes it too far for me, although I do play ARMA2 sometimes.
RealationGames 10 months ago
@RealationGames
mmmh..........i really expect a lot from arma 2 PR and arma 3.....i wish all those problems from before become fixed......but even with that, good luck with the sniper sim, oh, and try to make the graphic bests
xXxMartin96xXx 10 months ago
Dude, this looks sweetness!
My suggestion is to be able to make the graphics utter shit so super low enders can play, and also have the visual effects that of Oblivion. You know what I mean..
I would buy it.
zeph53 11 months ago
@zeph53
No hope for low end players even if the graphics suck, sorry. I'm using slow game engine(don't have millions of $ :( ), and another thing is that I'm not that skilled coder so I can't do that optimized code either.
Another thing is that I'm using scope system that requires render the scope also, which is almost double of the rendering pixel amount than reqular scope(thus almost twice slower).
No need to buy it, it will be free. Check out the new video btw.
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames Understandable. As long as you make the best possible game play possible, so then it would (maybe) get quite popular, get endorsements, make an epic sequel, make more money.. So on..
Free is always nice lol.
zeph53 11 months ago
@zeph53
I'm definently aiming for innovative gameplay and trying to do lots of stuff that has never been done before and I would want to be in games.
I don't think this genre would never get popular, simulations aren't really mainstream. I'd be satisfied if there is atleast one play that will enjoy the game :)
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames Well this is the starting of the foundation of the greatest most realistic FPS I have ever played to say the lease. This game COULD make it to mainstream, it just has to have everything in it. From A to Z.
I could give you a hand and help you on making textures and stuff, I can't model however, but I'm decent with creating animations if I get used to the animation program..
Keep up the good work though, this DOES look sweet, it's just in the "construction" stages..
zeph53 11 months ago
not bad... nice job buddy :)
m20310378 11 months ago
what code are you writing it in?
liamdude4 11 months ago
@liamdude4
Darkbasic.
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames cool, never heard of it but looks powerful :)
liamdude4 11 months ago
@liamdude4
Nah, it isn't powerful at all, it is just easy. I'm running empty test level at 100fps, it should be atleast 300fps on empty level so I have room to add stuff until it slows down to 60fps. I could do better optimizing but the engine isn't fast either, no way to add real time shadows and run it even 20fps on high end PC.
RealationGames 11 months ago
OH MAN! when i was watching this i was thinking wow this is so good and then boom! i get a windows blue screen of death!
GarrysSketch 11 months ago
I have a suggestion, could you put camo on the gun or a ghillie cover of some sort. and if not, have multiple rifles to choose from that have diffrent statistics and power?
Tieachy 11 months ago
@Tieachy
Sure I will, but it is not important now. Those are just the most finishing touches that I could do, but it would be just waste of time because everything else is still undone.
There will be various rifles with real life properties. No point making those yet, I can just add them like 1,2,3 when the gameplay mechanics are done.
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames ok, other than that it looks like it will be a really good game.
Tieachy 11 months ago
damn nice bro, if u have like a beta or if your releasing it ( or if you have already ima check your channel now ) upload a vid about it becouse i just subscribed.
MrBastard99 11 months ago
@MrBastard99
No point releasing anything yet, there is just empty test level full of unfinished developer stuff. If it was read I would have already released it.
I'll upload new footage quite soon.
RealationGames 11 months ago
@RealationGames cant wait for the new footage then.
MrBastard99 11 months ago
From the looks of it its very awsome. How long have you been working on it?
b0rks 11 months ago
@b0rks
Started in June 2009. But I've kept 6-10 months off and I started it off from scratch.
RealationGames 11 months ago
Are you working on it alone!? damn,if you made it whit 10 people,you could make a small free game in less than 2 months.
MrRevoluzzer 11 months ago
@MrRevoluzzer
Sure I'm doing it myself. I'm not making a small game, full game with story, charactes, plot changes and everything. Why not?
RealationGames 11 months ago
its quite good no need for dof... Thanks for the reply!
MrLinuxkid 11 months ago
The best thing u can add 6dof!
MrLinuxkid 11 months ago
@MrLinuxkid
There is "fake" dof using mask, but I have DOF shader and I'm able to add real DOF in matter of minutes, but I'm worried about the performance because I need to render the level another time for DOF shader output and blur it then.
Now I can just blur with the image output, no need to render anything else, but it's very limiting.
RealationGames 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
how will you call it??
Beda95 11 months ago
Hey why dont you give us the link so we can try it out?No point in making if no one can play.And hell if you are making it there should be a demo right?
jeffhardyfanallway 1 year ago
@jeffhardyfanallway
Play what? There is nothing to play yet, just an empty test area where you can walk around and animate the player, nothing more. No point releasing that, and there are hundreds of WIP and developer stuff I would have to disable to release playable version.
If it was a ready game why whouldn't I release it? But it will take few years to develop everything.
It will be available when it's ready, you can't play L.A.Noire yet, can you ;)?
RealationGames 1 year ago
Is this UDK or Unity?
cadorrune 1 year ago
@cadorrune
Neither, how did you thought that it has to be one of those? Graphics are quite dull, but that is good. Games that are based merely on uber graphics usually just suck.
Unity would be my #2 choice, but it would take lots and lots and lots and lots of work.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames Because of the terrain. I am looking forward to this though!
cadorrune 1 year ago
@RealationGames crysis doesn't suck :(
MASTURCHEEF001 1 year ago
@MASTURCHEEF001
I think nobody said that. But Crysis isn't good game because of the graphics, it's fun because of the freedom and 101 ways to kill an enemy. It would be as good as with 2005 graphics. Graphics are few minute fun, gameplay is what matters.
If you think game=graphics, then the best game you can find would be Nvidia Tech demos or something like that.
RealationGames 1 year ago
looks like farcry
arvis97 1 year ago
@arvis97
Far from it.
RealationGames 1 year ago
What software are you using to create a cool game like that
misermurder 1 year ago
@misermurder
Thanks, I just answered that same many times asked question 5 days ago, just check the (View all Comments >>) below.
The game doesn't code itself though so the specific software is irrelevant. There is no "Sniper simulation creator" software :)
RealationGames 1 year ago
add differnt snipers not that i dont like the p96 its just i like the draganove to
MoneyDude35 1 year ago
@MoneyDude35
I'll add more in future, it is not yet time to add more weapon when 0,01% of the basic features are done. Adding new weapons isn't really a current subject.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames Wait, What you said to MoneyDude35, You said 0.01% of the basic features are done yet this video was released almost a year ago...?
goodbyeash 1 year ago
@goodbyeash
Yea, one guy does things slower than a team of 25 professionals with big paycheck obvisously, but I keep higher standards for "basic features" as I try to make something that has never been done before.
Everything must be done, there is no pre-set "shooting scripts" or "make the player move like it should be" stuff, they must be coded.
I was stuck with the full body system for 4 months and had little free time so that's why it took so long.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames I understand that fully. Good luck with getting it finished.
goodbyeash 1 year ago
Hi mate, i have been a subscriber scince the first time i saw the sniper vid(3-4 months). And im sitting here wondering, where is an update vid:D Anyways, love your work!
xXKameroXx 1 year ago
@xXKameroXx
Thanks!
I can't upload new video because I redid the whole player system with full body system, so I've no animations yet, I can't upload video without player animations.
I was ready to upload new video 5 months ago, but then I thought that I'll "just do this one thing". I had to completely redo everything basically.
RealationGames 1 year ago
great game - dont forget to get RO 2 when it comes out
d3f4c3d 1 year ago
@d3f4c3d
Looking forward to it too :)
RealationGames 1 year ago
hey, i wanna get into the game making buisnesses, could u tell the software u used to make this game or could u recommend me somn easy
darcyfrod 1 year ago
@darcyfrod
DarkBASIC.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames thanks dude
darcyfrod 1 year ago
and games like cs 1.6 ask much more skill then so called simulations
also i need money for the game developers,
i cant make a game but sure can tell somene how the game should be
like i said,if i had money to buy some game company i would make the best fps game of all time
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
Not really, in CSS you don't have to figure about your placement, strategy, teamplay or plan anything. It is just about moving and clicking moving targets, but of course you can master that.
When thaking the shot you don't have to think about wind, gravity, barrel temperature, current ammunition, possible heat haze disortion, tactical hitpoint, etc.
It isn't difficult or challenging, it is repetive.
Your best FPS doesn't mean it's the best FPS for everyone, because there isn't one.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames lol,even a css needs more skill then your "realistic' games
try it and you will see,play with some clan
i gues it is hard for you since you need a good aim and fast reflexes but just play and it will come -)
my best fps would be the best fps for everyone
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
I'm not arguing with this, it needs different skills, like "good aim and fast reflexes" excatly, but not that much thinking before acting. These same skills along with everything else is needed in simulations.
Your FPS wouldn't be suitable for me for example, and not suitable for the people who play ARMA and PR.
I can recommend BF2: Project Reality for you to test, it is actually pretty damn hard game, _nothing_ like arcade FPSes.
I've tested CSS myself a while ago.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@fpssgamer no your best fps is not the best fps for everyone as i assume people have better taste, no css doesnt rquire skill, i used to play it 1 year ago, played it for a very long time, sniping was just too easy, so i went with zombie mode since i could have fun there, sniping was way too easy no skill needed...and no there is no way css will be needing more skill than our ''realistic games''
kuratomi9091 1 year ago
also it would be nice if you made a acog scope for the sniper but without zooming the whole screen,and without getting closer the scope
look at this video " TrueCombat:CQB WIP "
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
ACOG scope? Oh no no no, this will be NOTHING like arcade multiplayer CQC games like CSS, CODs, BC2, etc. Why would I make another arcade FPS?
This will be sniping simulation, why would someone put ACOG scope to a bolt action sniper rifle? Assault rifles can carry well to 300m and they can shoot way faster. Bolt actions are for 500-2500m ranges, ACOG is useless.
TrueCombat looks nice, but it's in whole different genre, and I don't play multiplayer games beside BF2.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames Well i sniper can be used without the scope attached,and you can aim down the sight
there is no reason why you would not put a acog or a red dot sight but ok
just one thing,sniper ghost warior is a great example how games that try to be simulations fail
before that game came out some kids and wannabe snipers where:yeee it will be great and shit like that"
i told them IT WILL SUCKS and i was right
listen to me if you want to have succeed
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
Why would someone use bolt action sniper rifle without scope? Tell me one reason why not to use assault rifle?
Sniper Ghost Warrior has nothing to do with simulations, it was pretty much a trailer hoax imo. Yes, it sucked.
I don't want to make ANOTHER arcade FPS. Isn't there enough already?(MW,BC2,CS,SA,CA etc. etc.)
And for that matter, I don't want to "succeed", I want to make a game I would want to play, and I know that there are other people like me, just see the comments.
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames because the feel is better with a sniper,and you need more skill,if you miss that one shot you are dead
ok,you dont want an arcade shooter but you are focusing on wrong things,some things should be more about enjoyment and less about realism
Make gore,blood,movement realistic
but ok i do understand that you want to make the game you want,i want that too,only difference is if i had money i would make the best fps game of all time
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
Describe "feel is better". I couldn't "feel" any difference between sniper and assault rifle.
Also, point in the battlefield is to survive, not to take ANY unnecessary risks. There is no respawn in real life.
I will balance some obvious things, well you don't have to eat or go to bathroom in this game. But you know, challange is also enjoyment. Arcade FPSes are way to easy, simple and repetive to some of us. Realism will provide that challange.
I've 0$ and I'm making a game btw. ;)
RealationGames 1 year ago
@RealationGames If you dont fell the difference between the ar and sniper or shotgun then you just dont love fps games
in real life you dont use a mouse to shot with a sniper etc.....
going to bathroom would be nice,i have nothing against that,and it would be nice if you could piss on peole and things like that,i am serious,why not?it is real
every game is an arcade one,you can play simulations all day long but real life is something different
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer thats quite hard...best fps of all time?
kuratomi9091 1 year ago
1.i dont like how the sniper looks,make it like gol or like some hunting sniper or m24 in bc2
2.the scope animation is to slow,it would ruin the gameplay
3.when you are looking trough the scope,the scope looks to big=the rifle to small
4.if there is no zoom in effect except in the scope then that is a +,i really hate how in the games the whole screen zooms in
5.i dont like that adjusting the zoom level but ok
6.i would like if the scope did not get closer
fpssgamer 1 year ago
@fpssgamer
1. This is sniping game, so obvisously there will be MANY various rifles. The one in the video is TRG-42, which is great rifle, although it isn't presented in any CODs etc.
2. Read the disclaimer @0:00-0:05, it clearly states that commenting animations is unnecessary.
3. You mean the rifle is too _close_? The rifle measurements are 1:1. The scope must be quite close because players don't have screens that would cover our whole 180 degree vision, but mostly 17"-24".
RealationGames 1 year ago