This guy justifies the reasoning and rational why the Pilgrims should have all been killed by the Indians before they got a chance to increase their population and spread their propoganda to the masses. If he would have been around during the 30's in Pre War Germany he would be hoisting shots with Goebbels, Himmler and Hitler and declaring it the 1000 Year Reich in order to justify the slaughter and killing of innocent people. These are the people who should scare the shit out of America.
I challenge all of our gay activist friends, gay or straight, to actually learn the philosophy behind this young man's views. I think you will find that your easy and ready labels of "bigot" and "hateful" are childish in that arena. I assure you, the "beef" we have with you concerns your philosophy, not who you are...
@BalladoftheWindfish ...And so, if you would like to learn about the arguments and not simply shout over them, I invite you to learn more about them in the spirit of intellectual honesty. We will met you on the battlefield of Reason!
@BalladoftheWindfish As a conservative - and a 53 year old man - let me tell you that "the philosophy behind this young man's views" reads like Hitlers hate for the Jews! Get out of my party you and your kind are not welcome!
@AMilitantAgnostic Your comment reads like a parodic confirmation of what I said, but I am afraid you are actually being serious. Shame. Instead of reiterating what I wrote, I just invite you to read my original two comments again. Perhaps you will understand why your post reads like a spoof.
@BalladoftheWindfish Do you understand what parody means? If you are saying that you do not support Sorba's POV, then you have failed to communicate that. If you are inline with Sorba (as your comments would indicate) my comment stands. His "philosophy" is simply fear mongering propaganda.
@AMilitantAgnostic Let me help you. I said that homosexual activists tend not to understand the philosophical and rational motivations for the moral prohibition on homosexual acts, and instead of seeking to understand them, they resort to bigoted and ignorant language that betrays a total lack of understanding on their part. And that is EXACTLY how (both) of your comments read. So it was easy to read your posts like a parody that fulfilled the pattern I was describing.
@BalladoftheWindfish Very good, having read Sorba's philosophy long ago, I again compare it to Hitlers explanations as to why the Jews were inhuman. As a Conservative myself, I want Sorba, and all like him, exposed and removed from leadership in the conservative movement.
Dehumanization is one of the first steps sociopaths take when masterminding genocide. If you simply strip his opinion of all spin and propaganda, it's clear that Sorba wants Gay's controlled, jailed, or dead.
@AMilitantAgnostic Really, you have read books on natural law and moral realism? Which ones? It's clear that if you did read them, you did not understand them. Any natural law ethicist would laugh uncontrollably at the charge of "dehumanization!" You are an old fool, stubborn and bigoted.
@BalladoftheWindfish Sorba's POV on natural law is as perverted as Hitlers POV on Natural selection. It's simply an attempt to spin a respected philosophy into supporting your desire to control, jail, or kill Gays. When you see the world through hate filled glasses then everything you read, see, or believe tends to seem as if it confirms your POV. The emotion of hate tends to distort everything you experience, even your education.
@BalladoftheWindfish "natural law" is a fiction. (And "moral realism" sounds like two unrelated words jammed up together.) We use our bodies for what we use them for. My ears are "for" hearing, so is it immoral or contrary to their design to use them to support my glasses?
@7777Hugh Why the bluff? You clearly do not know what you are talking about; your "ear" example gives you away. You may have a popular level notion of what natural law is, but certainly not an understanding based on learning and rational reflection. Why should I dialogue with you if, by your belligerence, it is clear that you have not the intellectual and moral character to engage in dialogue in the first place?
@BalladoftheWindfish "homosexual activists tend not to understand the philosophical and rational motivations for the moral prohibition on homosexual acts"
I don't understand either. No one has been able to sufficiently explain it to me. Maybe it's my fault and I'm just an idiot.
@BalladoftheWindfish "...not who you are"??? WHAA? He wants to take our identity from us. He said as much. I spent 40 years trying not to be gay and it nearly killed me. Who is that little jerk who wants to define me back into the closet?
"The behavior" ryan sorba said. The behavior below more str8 people in shear numbers have:
A 2006 study by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that "38.2 percent of men between ages 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex".
It is completely ignorant, to be against someone's opinion and way of life. I'm not gay, but I believe they have every right to do as they choose. I would be extremely pissed, if someone told me that I could not marry the woman of my dreams, because they do not 'believe' it to be correct; socially or economically. Fuck them. It's your life, live it the way you want. They can go fuck themselves.
@7777Hugh That doesn't even make sense. Buggery is not a place. It's a word commonly used to denote the type of perversions active sodomites engage in...
@1776Matthew "homocriticism" hahaha lol, these old people were alive during the period where homosexuals were outlawed, the new generations are more tolerant overall
@seahorse05 Christopher Hitchens said (in HItch-22 p90n)
"...whenever I hear some bigmouth in Washington or the Christian heartland banging on about the evils of sodomy or whatever, I mentally enter his name in my notebook and contentedly set my watch. Sooner rather than later he will be discovered down on his weary and well-worn old knees in some dreary motel or latrine, with an expired Visa card, having tried to pay well over the odds to be peed upon by some Apache transvestite."
it must be quite something to go through life so full of hate and with such fear of other human beings. This dude is just sad. you'd think he could pick an issue like...well, world peace, to really spend his time on. Penis -envy will be his downfall!
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I can't believe people believe this. Are they THAT desperate? I don't know much about politics, but I know alot about love. And if this is what Republican/Conservatives are like, then I don't want to have anything to do with it. These people have nothing but hate.
First they want to redefine "rape" now they want to redefine "gay" but don't let us asked for marriage equality for crying out loud, that's redefining things! WTF?
Wow what fearful and hateful souls. I hope they evolve to be more loving. Any straight man who is this obsessed has the Hovoer self hate issues.Sad sad sad. At least the audience eating this up is older and I hope their hate dies with them.
'same-sex intercourse'? this guy is batshit. it's meant to be derogatory...yet it would be weird to claim straight people as 'opposite-sex intercourse'—it's just asinine. these people are relegating a particular sexual orientation to a behavior. 'gay' is not a behavior. also, 'sodomy' is not a gay thing solely. straight men bang straight women in the ass too...the good news is, though, look at this asshole's constituents—they'll all be dead very very soon.
What the hell did he mean by saying we're "not an abstract consciousness inhabiting a personal body?" I feel like politicians--and I use that word very loosely here--should not be allowed to make informational speeches on biology, metaphysics, anthropology or anything other than what the bare minimum of their job requires of them. Then again Sorba's basic argument was horribly flawed to begin with.
Adults to have the right to have consensual sex with other adults. Who they have sex with is their business alone. That is called privacy. The 9th Amendment says you have rights that are not specified in the constitution and the courts have found privacy to be among those rights.
Stop using the word Conservative. Because if we continue to use this term that is grounded in an identity, we're conceding the premise that it is an identity and the rest of the debate we're on their ground. We're arguing on their terms. He who defines the terms controls the debate and by extension public opinion. What we need to do is state that look this is either stupidity, or maybe they're engaging in stupid thought or idiocy — whatever word you're comfortable using.
Unless or until conservative want to stop fighting against equal rights for the GLBT community. Getting rid of DADT is a good start. Conservatives could get behind that.
@Munkeymon Yes we should stop using the word conservative, because the term is a complete lie. What do they conserve? The rivers? the oceans?the forests? clean water? the wet lands? The air?The arts? Music in schools? National Parks?
Do they preserve educational programs?Do they conserve or preserve the rights of others? Hell no they are only interested in two things protecting their fortunes and not paying their fare share of taxes, and depriving others of their rights to life and freedom
As soon as we fix this terminology the world will be a better place. I also suggest we replace the terms for fascist, hatred spewing conservatives with the much more concise word - asshat. I'll be hosting a conference this weekend to spread the word. I'll be sure to bring my unsubstantial evidence and my lack of regard for other people with me.
What the fuck is wrong with the world... Seriously. Why not try to help the MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DYING OF HUNGER EVERY YEAR instead of waging a pointless "war" against innocent, harworking americans. Seriously, conservatives sicken me.
"You are not an abstract consciousness inhabiting some impersonal body...you are your body" ....Ummmmm no, we are not our bodies...it is just a vessal for our abstract consciousness.
the way i see it is yes you choose to act upon the sexual acting of being gay. but truth is you are still gay in you have that attraction and connection with men. whether you choose to act upon it or be miserable and closeted all your life is up to you
wow he thinks hes so smart just cause he uses big words lol. I dont ever think we will get to a point where all ppl understand gay ppl are born gay. i really dont see how ppl see it as a choice especially straight ppl, like can they seriously see themselves changing their mind and saying hey i wanna be gay now? like its seriosuly dumb
This offers a CLEAR imagery of how Hitler sat down with his planning committee and devise his EVIL plots against the Jews and gays. These people are DEMONIC and are more SCARY than Jason and Friday the 13th. If they think Jesus supports them and will welcome them in Heaven, they are in for a BIG surprise. ANTI-GAY=ANTI-CHRIST.
I don't believe people are born left-handed, dumb, blind, sterile, dwarf etc, because the OVERWHELMING majority of us use our right hand, are able to talk, see, can produce children and are at an average height above 5 ft, so I can't accept that God would make them that way. Those people have chosen to be like that, so let us call them ANTI-NATURE and persecute them and call special meetings to come up with better discriminatory terms, because Adam and Eve were not like them! Get my point?
Fascist Christians - always good for a laugh, especially when they get caught fisting one another. It's only ever a matter of time with these fucking hypocritical goons.
Another Christian nutjob in the closet. I bet this guy sucks dicks at truck stops at nights and goes on anti-gay crusades during the day to validate his purpose in life. There is no reason why anyone spends so much time researching "studies" on homosexuality and tries to bully them. Go ahead and have 12 kids all you want; nobody is stopping you.
These nutjobs would be easy to dismiss as hateful bigots who are simply to be avoided, but unfortunately, they have an audience who votes. And the results of these votes cannot be avoided.
I don't believe in this guy and I think I smell a gay.... remember to look very closely at those who are most loudly spreading hate usually they hate themselves. .... EQUALITY TODAY ! #NOH8
@kismetprismatism I don't think it's ok: I think it's MANDATORY to rape homophobes. I honestly don't understand why I should treat anyone this stupid like a human being. No, I should just rape them. Everyone should rape them. Rape them with elephant penises.
This is sickening - they are strategizing on how to use language and use propaganda (excuse me, I meant "reframe the discussion") to minimalize tax paying citizens of this nation. Do these people have no soul?
His logic about the body and "identity" supports the very argument against his--that sexuality is an identity. What a maroon. He tries to says procreation dictates identity, but science within the entire animal kingdom has long since proved him a liar on that front.
I wish this room spontaneously caught on fire with everyone of these fucking morons nodding their heads inside it. The horrifying ignorance displayed here is astounding. The fact that we have people like this representing America is criminally offensive. This jackass' "speech" is pseudo-intellectual garbage posing as critical thought, and it's offensive to anyone with half a brain, because this dipshit does not use logic; he uses ignorance and bigotry.
My money says the guy in the green tie is just dying to get his hands around some cock. Green tie dude probably has a thing for red tie dude and both of them are too scared to make the first move. Just let it happen, guys. That way you can stop having these silly meetings and embarrassing yourselves in front of thousands of people. Glad I could help.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that within 3 years the speaker in the suit will be arrested for having consensual sex with another man in a public bathroom.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that within 3 years the speaker in the suit will be arrested for having consensual sex with another man in a public bathroom.
Poor people, the only purpose they have in life is to condemn others. Why do they not just do the world a favour and commit mass suicide?
We could do with less people draining the resources of this planet and all the people who do not contribute to the world in positive manner should be the first to be culled.
Boy are they going to be disappointed when they die and come to the realization that their hate filled existences were pointless.
Interesting....radical right wing social conservatives at Liberty University are actually trying to use a bit of social psychology/postmodern theory to redefine "gay" in a negative way. It was Jacques Derrida who argued that it was actually an act of violence to try to change the definition of someone's defined identity....and that violence was a fundamental violence that conditions thought...." (Derrida-"Force and Signifcation")
As a Christian, this sickens me. I'm honestly not sure if these guys have ever read the Bible. Jesus commanded us to love others, not persecute them. This is disgraceful.
The Lord Jesus also said that those who die in their sins will go to hell. Are souls worth saving or not? Read 1 Cor 6:9 and see what God's Word says about sodomy. The anus is NOT a sexual organ, so Christians should be in the front line saying that.
If hell be the destiny of homosexuals then it is none of your god damned business. If some one wants to have anus sex it is none of your god damned business. It is none of your god damned business.
@MatsPT Why don't you start preaching to all the hetros who use anal/bare back sex not only as birth control but for the great pleasure they derive from it. Get your head out of the sand fool. Is the mouth a sexual organ? Then what say you about oral sex. Christians should enjoy their bible thump meetings and quit interfering with other peoples lives. Evangelical Christians have the most troublesome marriages and one if not the highest divorce rates in the nation.
You have not given it to us. We have taken it. Tough luck, buddy. By the way, lesbians don't do sodomy - it's actually a predominantly heterosexual practice.
What dumb asses...All the people in this video should be ashamed for even wasting the time devoted to listening to this garbage...Why are you so obsessed with the sexual lives of other people? Gay people don't meet up endlessly discussing what you psychopaths do in your spare time (though we don't need to, as it is crammed down everyone's thoats). I don't want to be married under your imaginary god, just under he Government that assures me that all people are created equal. Bigots.
I thought Christians were supposed to be the most loving, caring and thoughtful individuals on the planet, guess I was wrong. Jesus Christ sure would be proud of all the hate you guys exhibit everyday!
@88donja loving Christians? really? I don't think starting numerous wars in the Middle East and killing hundreds and thousands of people is a loving act, Christianity like all the other religions is a medieval and fucked up way of life
Why does there need to be a war against gay people? Here you have a bunch of fundamentalists trying to figure out ways to trick the public into developing a disdain for homosexuals, and thus impose their own twisted opinion of God and morality on society. Do they have nothing better to do? Are their lives so empty or their hearts so full of loathing that they must find a group of people to pick on?
Thankfully there are Christians who don't subscribe to this brand of bigoted ignorance.
@coolworx Not all Christians are bigoted, ignorant, and self-serving like this bunch. Many churches (my Lutheran church included) actually subscribe to the true idea of Christianity which is loving and helping your neighbor - not trying to tear them down by branding them with unfavorable terms.
@SaintofKillers66 Not only does he deny that it exists, but he basically accuses all homosexuals of accepting that basic tenet of Christian theology, and it is BECAUSE they accept it that they are evil. Unless the rest of the religious right is desperate enough to give up on this fundamental tenet, this guy won't last long as an advisor to them...
People "develop" longer hair, "develop" longer nails, "develop" different hair color, "develop" different handedness, "develop" orientation etc. All are inborn, what is the point? Mr. Sorba, we can all do our best to accept and respect who you are (without making excuses or justifications), please try your best to give others that same respect. I understand there is no substitute for experience but try a little harder to understand those different than you. God bless.
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eiffel0108 5 days ago
"sigh" ANOTHER homophobic IDIOT Conservative has just arisen. What the hell, can heterosexuals stop breeding these idiots lol...
Equality4ya 2 weeks ago
This guy justifies the reasoning and rational why the Pilgrims should have all been killed by the Indians before they got a chance to increase their population and spread their propoganda to the masses. If he would have been around during the 30's in Pre War Germany he would be hoisting shots with Goebbels, Himmler and Hitler and declaring it the 1000 Year Reich in order to justify the slaughter and killing of innocent people. These are the people who should scare the shit out of America.
IngloriusBastard11 2 weeks ago
Fucking Christians gtfo you can't control them. Get out of our country you mother fucking control freaks.
AnonymousWeRise 1 month ago
This guy has an extreme case of not accepting his own homosexuality. He is fucking obsessed with it.
MRBBJC 2 months ago
The guy to his left seems to be having an orgasm..... Just what IS going on under the table?
AMilitantAgnostic 2 months ago
Hee-hee - it looks like a tea party for old biddies and the terminally senile.
akrifasouth 3 months ago
I challenge all of our gay activist friends, gay or straight, to actually learn the philosophy behind this young man's views. I think you will find that your easy and ready labels of "bigot" and "hateful" are childish in that arena. I assure you, the "beef" we have with you concerns your philosophy, not who you are...
BalladoftheWindfish 3 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish ...And so, if you would like to learn about the arguments and not simply shout over them, I invite you to learn more about them in the spirit of intellectual honesty. We will met you on the battlefield of Reason!
BalladoftheWindfish 3 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish As a conservative - and a 53 year old man - let me tell you that "the philosophy behind this young man's views" reads like Hitlers hate for the Jews! Get out of my party you and your kind are not welcome!
AMilitantAgnostic 2 months ago
@AMilitantAgnostic Your comment reads like a parodic confirmation of what I said, but I am afraid you are actually being serious. Shame. Instead of reiterating what I wrote, I just invite you to read my original two comments again. Perhaps you will understand why your post reads like a spoof.
BalladoftheWindfish 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish Do you understand what parody means? If you are saying that you do not support Sorba's POV, then you have failed to communicate that. If you are inline with Sorba (as your comments would indicate) my comment stands. His "philosophy" is simply fear mongering propaganda.
AMilitantAgnostic 2 months ago
@AMilitantAgnostic Let me help you. I said that homosexual activists tend not to understand the philosophical and rational motivations for the moral prohibition on homosexual acts, and instead of seeking to understand them, they resort to bigoted and ignorant language that betrays a total lack of understanding on their part. And that is EXACTLY how (both) of your comments read. So it was easy to read your posts like a parody that fulfilled the pattern I was describing.
BalladoftheWindfish 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish Very good, having read Sorba's philosophy long ago, I again compare it to Hitlers explanations as to why the Jews were inhuman. As a Conservative myself, I want Sorba, and all like him, exposed and removed from leadership in the conservative movement.
Dehumanization is one of the first steps sociopaths take when masterminding genocide. If you simply strip his opinion of all spin and propaganda, it's clear that Sorba wants Gay's controlled, jailed, or dead.
AMilitantAgnostic 2 months ago
@AMilitantAgnostic Really, you have read books on natural law and moral realism? Which ones? It's clear that if you did read them, you did not understand them. Any natural law ethicist would laugh uncontrollably at the charge of "dehumanization!" You are an old fool, stubborn and bigoted.
BalladoftheWindfish 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish Sorba's POV on natural law is as perverted as Hitlers POV on Natural selection. It's simply an attempt to spin a respected philosophy into supporting your desire to control, jail, or kill Gays. When you see the world through hate filled glasses then everything you read, see, or believe tends to seem as if it confirms your POV. The emotion of hate tends to distort everything you experience, even your education.
AMilitantAgnostic 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish "natural law" is a fiction. (And "moral realism" sounds like two unrelated words jammed up together.) We use our bodies for what we use them for. My ears are "for" hearing, so is it immoral or contrary to their design to use them to support my glasses?
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@7777Hugh Why the bluff? You clearly do not know what you are talking about; your "ear" example gives you away. You may have a popular level notion of what natural law is, but certainly not an understanding based on learning and rational reflection. Why should I dialogue with you if, by your belligerence, it is clear that you have not the intellectual and moral character to engage in dialogue in the first place?
BalladoftheWindfish 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish "homosexual activists tend not to understand the philosophical and rational motivations for the moral prohibition on homosexual acts"
I don't understand either. No one has been able to sufficiently explain it to me. Maybe it's my fault and I'm just an idiot.
KayBeeEee1983 2 months ago
@BalladoftheWindfish "...not who you are"??? WHAA? He wants to take our identity from us. He said as much. I spent 40 years trying not to be gay and it nearly killed me. Who is that little jerk who wants to define me back into the closet?
7777Hugh 2 months ago
"Stop using the word gray... if we continue to allow 'them' to use that word.......blah blah blah.. "
seahorse05 5 months ago
"The behavior" ryan sorba said. The behavior below more str8 people in shear numbers have:
A 2006 study by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that "38.2 percent of men between ages 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex".
seahorse05 5 months ago 4
It is completely ignorant, to be against someone's opinion and way of life. I'm not gay, but I believe they have every right to do as they choose. I would be extremely pissed, if someone told me that I could not marry the woman of my dreams, because they do not 'believe' it to be correct; socially or economically. Fuck them. It's your life, live it the way you want. They can go fuck themselves.
IamMrBuddha 5 months ago
Go Ryan Sorba!!!!!
rumpranger65 7 months ago
@rumpranger65 ...straight to hell. Or perhaps to Buggery.
7777Hugh 2 months ago
@7777Hugh That doesn't even make sense. Buggery is not a place. It's a word commonly used to denote the type of perversions active sodomites engage in...
rumpranger65 1 month ago
I wonder if any of you fags can debate this issue without all the name calling and ad hominem attacks?
OOOPS!!! How ironic, huh? LOL!!!
But seriously, you're right. "Homophobia" is dying. And homocriticism is rising.
1776Matthew 9 months ago
@1776Matthew "homocriticism" hahaha lol, these old people were alive during the period where homosexuals were outlawed, the new generations are more tolerant overall
MamaMario13 6 months ago
@1776Matthew And since it is not homophobic, there will be an equivalent rise of heterocriticism?
7777Hugh 2 months ago
The desperate ramblings of a school of thought that is breathing its last.
Esprix 9 months ago
195 people aren't bigots.
JeremyRR33 9 months ago
ryan sodomy is obsessed with this subject: "same-sex intercourse."
Me thinks thou lady protests too much.
Yet another GOP closet case. Divorce, adultery and/or repressed closet cases now define many in the Republican party.
seahorse05 9 months ago
@seahorse05
"Me thinks thou lady protests too much"
Haha! You sound like the quintessential tool. Oh my goodness, could you not find a form of expression more ridiculous than that?
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@seahorse05 Christopher Hitchens said (in HItch-22 p90n)
"...whenever I hear some bigmouth in Washington or the Christian heartland banging on about the evils of sodomy or whatever, I mentally enter his name in my notebook and contentedly set my watch. Sooner rather than later he will be discovered down on his weary and well-worn old knees in some dreary motel or latrine, with an expired Visa card, having tried to pay well over the odds to be peed upon by some Apache transvestite."
7777Hugh 2 months ago
it must be quite something to go through life so full of hate and with such fear of other human beings. This dude is just sad. you'd think he could pick an issue like...well, world peace, to really spend his time on. Penis -envy will be his downfall!
michaelmouse1 10 months ago
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I can't believe people believe this. Are they THAT desperate? I don't know much about politics, but I know alot about love. And if this is what Republican/Conservatives are like, then I don't want to have anything to do with it. These people have nothing but hate.
SeptemberStarz 10 months ago
"Them"? Says everything you need to know about this dinosaur. He refers to "100 years of research" without referencing any of it.
gwmolnar 10 months ago
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"Them"? Says everything you need to know about this dinosaur.
gwmolnar 10 months ago
The guy to the right of the speaker at 0:51 is probably a closeted fag.
antgly 10 months ago
uh Ryan? You seem a little obsessed with homosexuality. Remember that Thursday night at summer camp? I do. And you weren't that good.
ronoliver1 10 months ago
First they want to redefine "rape" now they want to redefine "gay" but don't let us asked for marriage equality for crying out loud, that's redefining things! WTF?
atxthumper 10 months ago
Wow what fearful and hateful souls. I hope they evolve to be more loving. Any straight man who is this obsessed has the Hovoer self hate issues.Sad sad sad. At least the audience eating this up is older and I hope their hate dies with them.
timothyjames24 10 months ago
I'm sorry. Is this a joke?
ericacious 10 months ago
there's no shortage of stupid in the room.
soundscapenyc 10 months ago
'same-sex intercourse'? this guy is batshit. it's meant to be derogatory...yet it would be weird to claim straight people as 'opposite-sex intercourse'—it's just asinine. these people are relegating a particular sexual orientation to a behavior. 'gay' is not a behavior. also, 'sodomy' is not a gay thing solely. straight men bang straight women in the ass too...the good news is, though, look at this asshole's constituents—they'll all be dead very very soon.
soundscapenyc 10 months ago
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soundscapenyc 10 months ago
This guy is talking out of his gay ass.
Mikeanglo 10 months ago
If all the gays go to hell, it must be a really fun place!
tokeitup 10 months ago
if you want to convince people that your (disgusting backwards) opinion is correct, you need to be far more eloquent.
BurnSpangler 10 months ago
$20 says Ryan Sorba is gay.
ingyinginging 10 months ago 3
What the hell did he mean by saying we're "not an abstract consciousness inhabiting a personal body?" I feel like politicians--and I use that word very loosely here--should not be allowed to make informational speeches on biology, metaphysics, anthropology or anything other than what the bare minimum of their job requires of them. Then again Sorba's basic argument was horribly flawed to begin with.
Pigglesarecute 10 months ago 3
This is what bigotry sounds like.
Adults to have the right to have consensual sex with other adults. Who they have sex with is their business alone. That is called privacy. The 9th Amendment says you have rights that are not specified in the constitution and the courts have found privacy to be among those rights.
SamWiseGingy 10 months ago
OMG... Could this guy be any dumber
england74017 10 months ago
i think this man suffers from a little same sex attraction.
bluestate69 10 months ago
note the amount of dislikes compared to likes...
dotheCHACHA123 10 months ago
How funny is this little man?
danmu 10 months ago
Stop using the word Conservative. Because if we continue to use this term that is grounded in an identity, we're conceding the premise that it is an identity and the rest of the debate we're on their ground. We're arguing on their terms. He who defines the terms controls the debate and by extension public opinion. What we need to do is state that look this is either stupidity, or maybe they're engaging in stupid thought or idiocy — whatever word you're comfortable using.
Munkeymon 10 months ago 4
@Munkeymon
Conservative = homophobe.
Unless or until conservative want to stop fighting against equal rights for the GLBT community. Getting rid of DADT is a good start. Conservatives could get behind that.
SamWiseGingy 10 months ago
@Munkeymon Yes we should stop using the word conservative, because the term is a complete lie. What do they conserve? The rivers? the oceans?the forests? clean water? the wet lands? The air?The arts? Music in schools? National Parks?
Do they preserve educational programs?Do they conserve or preserve the rights of others? Hell no they are only interested in two things protecting their fortunes and not paying their fare share of taxes, and depriving others of their rights to life and freedom
johnnyohness 10 months ago 3
Conservative = Idoits
johnnyohness 10 months ago
Yay. I'm part of that 8 percent.
klyamzon 10 months ago
As soon as we fix this terminology the world will be a better place. I also suggest we replace the terms for fascist, hatred spewing conservatives with the much more concise word - asshat. I'll be hosting a conference this weekend to spread the word. I'll be sure to bring my unsubstantial evidence and my lack of regard for other people with me.
Eliz279009 10 months ago
Clearly he prefers to deny other people happiness because his own pathetic life isn't worth anything.
Rochey93 10 months ago
What a tool!
angel21901 10 months ago
What the fuck is wrong with the world... Seriously. Why not try to help the MILLIONS OF AMERICANS DYING OF HUNGER EVERY YEAR instead of waging a pointless "war" against innocent, harworking americans. Seriously, conservatives sicken me.
xXrainbowboi42Xx 10 months ago 3
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you cannot be gay and christian unless you're celibate, period.
gan0nsl4y3r 10 months ago
"You are not an abstract consciousness inhabiting some impersonal body...you are your body" ....Ummmmm no, we are not our bodies...it is just a vessal for our abstract consciousness.
ChicanoLA 10 months ago 3
the way i see it is yes you choose to act upon the sexual acting of being gay. but truth is you are still gay in you have that attraction and connection with men. whether you choose to act upon it or be miserable and closeted all your life is up to you
Kmays111 10 months ago
All I see is grey hair in that crowd....its only a matter of time b4 hate dies out
ChicanoLA 10 months ago 13
@ChicanoLA lets hope it moves a little faster.
chertzle 5 months ago
wow he thinks hes so smart just cause he uses big words lol. I dont ever think we will get to a point where all ppl understand gay ppl are born gay. i really dont see how ppl see it as a choice especially straight ppl, like can they seriously see themselves changing their mind and saying hey i wanna be gay now? like its seriosuly dumb
Kmays111 10 months ago
This offers a CLEAR imagery of how Hitler sat down with his planning committee and devise his EVIL plots against the Jews and gays. These people are DEMONIC and are more SCARY than Jason and Friday the 13th. If they think Jesus supports them and will welcome them in Heaven, they are in for a BIG surprise. ANTI-GAY=ANTI-CHRIST.
Kumtekmeon 10 months ago
I don't believe people are born left-handed, dumb, blind, sterile, dwarf etc, because the OVERWHELMING majority of us use our right hand, are able to talk, see, can produce children and are at an average height above 5 ft, so I can't accept that God would make them that way. Those people have chosen to be like that, so let us call them ANTI-NATURE and persecute them and call special meetings to come up with better discriminatory terms, because Adam and Eve were not like them! Get my point?
Kumtekmeon 10 months ago 4
@Kumtekmeon Haha
ChicanoLA 10 months ago
My gay roommate had sexual relations with Ryan Sorba - He is a closet case.
GayTexasBoy 10 months ago
3 people secretly hate themselves
SaintofKillers66 10 months ago
oh my god, 'this new identity, the queer identity, queer theory, is coming our way', kinda has been for two decades ha ha ha what up-to-date folks
sovilous 10 months ago
how best can we dehumanize people? let us hold a think tank
sovilous 10 months ago
Fascist Christians - always good for a laugh, especially when they get caught fisting one another. It's only ever a matter of time with these fucking hypocritical goons.
tempelton 10 months ago
And we should call people that denigrate, condemn and work to deny LGBT people their full citizenship, freedom and rights:
Homoloathers
seahorse05 10 months ago
Gay means happy. I'm happy. But I'm not gay. I don't like sodomy....
I am LESBIAN THOUGH. lol
kraziestdork24 10 months ago
Another Christian nutjob in the closet. I bet this guy sucks dicks at truck stops at nights and goes on anti-gay crusades during the day to validate his purpose in life. There is no reason why anyone spends so much time researching "studies" on homosexuality and tries to bully them. Go ahead and have 12 kids all you want; nobody is stopping you.
etamlous 10 months ago
These nutjobs would be easy to dismiss as hateful bigots who are simply to be avoided, but unfortunately, they have an audience who votes. And the results of these votes cannot be avoided.
therealzilch 10 months ago
I don't believe in this guy and I think I smell a gay.... remember to look very closely at those who are most loudly spreading hate usually they hate themselves. .... EQUALITY TODAY ! #NOH8
m37539 10 months ago 4
And there is a lot of old people in that room.
jwicklun 10 months ago
Also, wasn't this the same guy that was booed at CPAC about a year ago?
jwicklun 10 months ago 2
Well fuck that guy.
jwicklun 10 months ago 2
Dude, couldn't hear you with that huge cock in your mouth.
We all know he will get caught sucking cock in a bathroom, so why bother acting like he is saying anything "credible"?
JohnBlaqk 10 months ago 5
LOL this is funny that everyone is in this classroom like they're actually learning something and taking it seriously.
GetTheHook 10 months ago
I want to rape this guy who is talking with my raging homosexual hardon penis
brucenitro 10 months ago
@brucenitro It's kind of funny that you think it's ok to counter homophobia with a rape joke. It's not.
kismetprismatism 10 months ago
@kismetprismatism I don't think it's ok: I think it's MANDATORY to rape homophobes. I honestly don't understand why I should treat anyone this stupid like a human being. No, I should just rape them. Everyone should rape them. Rape them with elephant penises.
brucenitro 9 months ago
i mean you could call gay people sodomites, but i mean i'm gay and i dont like buttsex! :0
scd2006 10 months ago
Ryan Sorba has a blog on blogspot and it is 100% self promotion. The guy is a real Nazi
studebaker62 10 months ago
This is sickening - they are strategizing on how to use language and use propaganda (excuse me, I meant "reframe the discussion") to minimalize tax paying citizens of this nation. Do these people have no soul?
studebaker62 10 months ago
How about finding something legitimate to fight for
stavrosR 10 months ago 2
How are the people in the audience keeping quit during his bigoted rant? that is full of hate
ReligionisaCult 10 months ago
hahah the douche in the tie next to him... If he nods his head in agreement any harder, it'd look like he's giving head... to Ryan Sorba.
dylnvcufilm 10 months ago 4
What an ignorant asshole. And btw, if you start using "sodomy" instead of "gay," you're going to lose the battle much quicker than you already are.
GameMasterShad 10 months ago 5
What bullshit!
shenadoa 10 months ago 2
is this guy afraid that he could "turn" gay?
hardinmichael1981 10 months ago 6
His logic about the body and "identity" supports the very argument against his--that sexuality is an identity. What a maroon. He tries to says procreation dictates identity, but science within the entire animal kingdom has long since proved him a liar on that front.
cosmicflowindigo 10 months ago
want to bet the two guys at the table spent the evenings getting it on?
tnichlsn 10 months ago 2
Thanks for posting this video people need to see what depths some people will sink to in their need to persecute others
Ender1zero1 10 months ago 2
The audience is a vibrant strong young crowd ready to take the world in their in their hands with their new ideas.
etniko 10 months ago 2
seriously, they need to leave the gays alone. They're not going anywhere. Get over it and move the hell on!
gohanesttreschaud 10 months ago 5
Ryan Sorba is gay.
GeneralUrsus 10 months ago
Do these idiots have nothing better to do with their lives? Sad and pathetic...
GeneralUrsus 10 months ago
I can't imagine how miserable these people's lives must be to spend their free time going to meetings to talk about how to repress gay people
cjk002 10 months ago 4
soon to be found in a public washroom with 10 grams of meth, a bag of issues and an 16 year old personal male assistant
MrNiceHk 10 months ago 4
I wish this room spontaneously caught on fire with everyone of these fucking morons nodding their heads inside it. The horrifying ignorance displayed here is astounding. The fact that we have people like this representing America is criminally offensive. This jackass' "speech" is pseudo-intellectual garbage posing as critical thought, and it's offensive to anyone with half a brain, because this dipshit does not use logic; he uses ignorance and bigotry.
Carter812 10 months ago 3
My money says the guy in the green tie is just dying to get his hands around some cock. Green tie dude probably has a thing for red tie dude and both of them are too scared to make the first move. Just let it happen, guys. That way you can stop having these silly meetings and embarrassing yourselves in front of thousands of people. Glad I could help.
sucktastic 10 months ago 2
@sucktastic I agree, green tie doth protest too much.
redlightmax 10 months ago
Their semantic "hail mary' throw would be funny if it wasn't hurtful to so many people.
Their discussion is identical to fights on comments and forums, at this point these people are just trolling the LGBT community in US.
solsticedj 10 months ago
Fuck off forever.
rashkaei 10 months ago 4
such ignorance...
pknapp91 10 months ago 2
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I think it's a pretty safe bet that within 3 years the speaker in the suit will be arrested for having consensual sex with another man in a public bathroom.
weaselworden 10 months ago
I think it's a pretty safe bet that within 3 years the speaker in the suit will be arrested for having consensual sex with another man in a public bathroom.
weaselworden 10 months ago 30
In five years 80% of the people in that room will be dead. See, there's a bright side.
arouska 10 months ago 5
wow, way to give my religion a bad reputation guys.
BatOtaku13 10 months ago
@BatOtaku13 They aren't the only ones. These values are practiced by most christian churches.
rpwbass 10 months ago
so what @ HETEROSEXUALS who CHOOSE NOT to procreate? What @ birth control? What @ masturbation?
These ASSHOLES don't just HATE homosexuals. They seem to HATE SEX ITSELF!
What is WRONG with these ASSHOLES???
hardinmichael1981 10 months ago
Poor people, the only purpose they have in life is to condemn others. Why do they not just do the world a favour and commit mass suicide?
We could do with less people draining the resources of this planet and all the people who do not contribute to the world in positive manner should be the first to be culled.
Boy are they going to be disappointed when they die and come to the realization that their hate filled existences were pointless.
GyThanksGd 10 months ago
Ryan Sorba has an itty bitty teeny tiny....
Closet case waiting to throwing open those doors. Why else is he so obsessed with homosexuality?
neenerpuss 10 months ago 3
We should stop calling them "conservatives". We should call them what they really are "ASSHOLES!"
hardinmichael1981 10 months ago 5
@hardinmichael1981 How about conservative assholes? There. That covers them all. You're welcome.
rpwbass 10 months ago
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I LOVE IT!
hardinmichael1981 10 months ago
a meeting at Liberty University to strategize about how to deny people.... uh.... liberty.
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EltonATL 10 months ago
Interesting....radical right wing social conservatives at Liberty University are actually trying to use a bit of social psychology/postmodern theory to redefine "gay" in a negative way. It was Jacques Derrida who argued that it was actually an act of violence to try to change the definition of someone's defined identity....and that violence was a fundamental violence that conditions thought...." (Derrida-"Force and Signifcation")
EltonATL 10 months ago
As a Christian, this sickens me. I'm honestly not sure if these guys have ever read the Bible. Jesus commanded us to love others, not persecute them. This is disgraceful.
akuehnproductions 10 months ago 57
@akuehnproductions I think they've read the Bible, but only the Old Testament.
redlightmax 10 months ago
The Lord Jesus also said that those who die in their sins will go to hell. Are souls worth saving or not? Read 1 Cor 6:9 and see what God's Word says about sodomy. The anus is NOT a sexual organ, so Christians should be in the front line saying that.
MatsPT 10 months ago
@MatsPT
If hell be the destiny of homosexuals then it is none of your god damned business. If some one wants to have anus sex it is none of your god damned business. It is none of your god damned business.
SamWiseGingy 10 months ago
@MatsPT Why don't you start preaching to all the hetros who use anal/bare back sex not only as birth control but for the great pleasure they derive from it. Get your head out of the sand fool. Is the mouth a sexual organ? Then what say you about oral sex. Christians should enjoy their bible thump meetings and quit interfering with other peoples lives. Evangelical Christians have the most troublesome marriages and one if not the highest divorce rates in the nation.
So STFU
johnnyohness 10 months ago
You have not given us the word "gay" - we took it. Tough luck, asshole.
nicksum29 10 months ago 3
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You have not given it to us. We have taken it. Tough luck, buddy. By the way, lesbians don't do sodomy - it's actually a predominantly heterosexual practice.
nicksum29 10 months ago 2
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nicksum29 10 months ago
This presentation was pretty gay.
a5stoz 10 months ago
Well it looks like most of the people in the audience are about to die of natural causes any second now.
bgjohnla 10 months ago
Oh Ryan Sorba, you lost what little credibility you had when you got booed off the stage at CPAC. But wow, even for you this is downright pathetic.
LewsTelamon 10 months ago 2
"you are not an abstract consciousness...you are your body"
wtf. spirituality 101 fail.
amitbarfs 10 months ago 2
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amitbarfs 10 months ago
What dumb asses...All the people in this video should be ashamed for even wasting the time devoted to listening to this garbage...Why are you so obsessed with the sexual lives of other people? Gay people don't meet up endlessly discussing what you psychopaths do in your spare time (though we don't need to, as it is crammed down everyone's thoats). I don't want to be married under your imaginary god, just under he Government that assures me that all people are created equal. Bigots.
TunaJohnson 10 months ago 5
I thought Christians were supposed to be the most loving, caring and thoughtful individuals on the planet, guess I was wrong. Jesus Christ sure would be proud of all the hate you guys exhibit everyday!
88donja 10 months ago 3
@88donja loving Christians? really? I don't think starting numerous wars in the Middle East and killing hundreds and thousands of people is a loving act, Christianity like all the other religions is a medieval and fucked up way of life
as2711 10 months ago
@as2711 I know..
88donja 10 months ago
These people are the lowest form of human trash. People are born gay, simple.
88donja 10 months ago
Why does there need to be a war against gay people? Here you have a bunch of fundamentalists trying to figure out ways to trick the public into developing a disdain for homosexuals, and thus impose their own twisted opinion of God and morality on society. Do they have nothing better to do? Are their lives so empty or their hearts so full of loathing that they must find a group of people to pick on?
Thankfully there are Christians who don't subscribe to this brand of bigoted ignorance.
Permaglo 10 months ago 3
"You are your body" is a very atheistic statement. This guy is such a moron.
Karmabug7 10 months ago 3
How long will we wait before somebody finds Ryan Sorba in the bushes blowing his boyfriend?
jimtrueblue99 10 months ago 3
So gay.
qq34r7 10 months ago 3
I would LOVE to see that "100 years of research."
( [citation needed] )
murraythebu 10 months ago
I hope they didn't charge those old folk for that lecture
tiponeill2 10 months ago
look at the hair color of the audience. don't they understand that their cause is dying with their supporters?
amitco 10 months ago 2
I hate fucking Christians.
I really do.
coolworx 10 months ago 2
@coolworx Not all Christians are bigoted, ignorant, and self-serving like this bunch. Many churches (my Lutheran church included) actually subscribe to the true idea of Christianity which is loving and helping your neighbor - not trying to tear them down by branding them with unfavorable terms.
Permaglo 10 months ago
is it just me or does he deny the existence of the soul at about 1:00 ?
SaintofKillers66 10 months ago 40
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awblandford 10 months ago
@SaintofKillers66 Not only does he deny that it exists, but he basically accuses all homosexuals of accepting that basic tenet of Christian theology, and it is BECAUSE they accept it that they are evil. Unless the rest of the religious right is desperate enough to give up on this fundamental tenet, this guy won't last long as an advisor to them...
awblandford 10 months ago
People "develop" longer hair, "develop" longer nails, "develop" different hair color, "develop" different handedness, "develop" orientation etc. All are inborn, what is the point? Mr. Sorba, we can all do our best to accept and respect who you are (without making excuses or justifications), please try your best to give others that same respect. I understand there is no substitute for experience but try a little harder to understand those different than you. God bless.
anjela1981 10 months ago
Fucking morons. Notice that its only old fogies there listening.
jamstrings100 10 months ago 3