What a bunch of bullshit. Most of these claims by discovery are just rumor and not rooted in solid historical evidence. Just goes to show they value entertainment and sensationalism over true history.
@MontChevalier Yes they are sure as it is backed up by facts. Ivan did what he did in the name of god, that doe not mean god told him to do it. You need to learn to comprehend and understand instead of just writing rather pathetic comments.
This documentary seems very biased in that it portrays Ivan as a purely evil man. He did turn Russia into a world power at the time and helped it into prosperity...
yeah this is shit. really? stabbed to death? more like CLUBBED TO DEATH. wtf you see blood gushing from the head. try stabbing a head, that's kinda hard to do man
@ZolotoPartii Obviously. It was made for entertainment purposes, not educational, accurate purposes. Note they are highlighting the darker, mental aspects of Ivan. You want a documentary? The Brits or Russian version may be better.
@ZolotoPartii Of course it changes the fact. No one FORCED you to watch this. You don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. Stop bitching and complaining and go somewhere else.
@ZolotoPartii ...whhhhat? You can go onto any web site (or read a book, which I highly reccomend...No body reads book as much as they should anymore :p) ) and research for yourself though. LOL! :p
@papasmurfXXX Rasputin was less "evil," than a con man who got an extraordinarily lucky break for a few years, then had the most epic death ever, was remembered for over a century as the epitome of all things spooky, rowdy and Russian, then had a good brand of beer and a shitty vodka cocktail named after him.
@yerk3 - Rasputin (according to British intelligence) was assassinated by the British, to keep WW1 going. I don't know if you know that - your emails are so badly-written it's hard to work out what, if anything, you mean.
@rerevisionist Which "intelligence?" Which file? Because the scenario, as you put it forth, doesn't make a lick of sense. Rasputin was not a target of any strategic value. He was not a government official, he didn't have any control of the army or government, he was, at worst, a petty charlatan who took advantage of the royal family's desperation and gullibility, and tarnished their public image with his reckless debauchery.
@rerevisionist If the British really wanted to damage the Romanovs, they would have had more success by telling Rasputin to do more of whatever he was doing, get drunk more, maybe make a few public boasts about how everyone's taxes were paying for his wine, and what an easy mark the Tzar was. As it stood, he was making a laughing stock of the royal family. Newspapers were running cartoons of the Nicholas II dancing moronically as Rasputin played some sort of clay flute.
@yerk3 - Rasputin always said that he could have prevented World War I, by telling the Tsar not to be so silly. The peasants always opposed the war. He happened to be ill on the day the Tsar declared war. He had a lot of influence on the Tsaritsa, and what he said may well be true. That's why he was assassinated.
@rerevisionist Rasputin couldn't have prevented WWI any more than Miss Cleo from the Psychic Friends Network could have prevented the Iraq war. He was a mystic, not a world leader. What the peasants wanted was never part of the equation. Nicholas didn't give a damn about what the peasants thought, he considered it his birthright to rule over them, and for them to obey his commands and edicts without question.
@rerevisionist Furthermore, it was the Austro-Hungarians who declared war, not the Russians. The situation leading up to the war was years in the making, there was no way either of the parties involved could have prevented it at that late date, even if they had wanted to, which none of them did. If any of Rasputin's "predictions" ever happened to be true, it was by sheer coincidence alone. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
@rerevisionist You're damn right his "influence" on the Empress was part of the reason he was assassinated. Their closeness was beginning to look unseemly to various members if the royal family. Newspapers critical of the regime insinuated that the two were having an affair. Needless to say, this gave some members of the Royal family a very compelling motive to get rid of this flea-ridden peasant troublemaker before he could damage their family's reputation even further.
@sandasassin18 - when you aren't assassinating sand, bear in mind there was hostility between Russians (and Poles and others) and so-called Jews, and the later managed to murder a large number of them. They have no inclination to truth in history anyway, and certainly would smear Ivan without a second thought. I don't know what I the T was like, but since Jews own most 'western' media, the chance of an accurate presentation is as good as the chance of a truthful account of the 'Holocaust'
@rerevisionist The "hostility" between Russians and Poles and the Jewish populations of those countries was consistently one-sided, with Russians and Poles attacking Jews, murdering them in large numbers, conducting purges, and burning their villages. When did Jews murder "large numbers" of Poles or Russians? Ivan the Terrible's crimes, especially in the later part of his rule, were well documented. You can't ague with the evidence.
@yerk3 - Even professional raciust cult apologists such as Eric Hobsbawm admit the numbers in 'pogroms' were tiny. The reasons for these outbreaks are not well known. Jews murdered tens of millions under the so-called 'Communist' regime.
@rerevisionist Why do you put "pogroms" in quotations? Are you trying to deny that they happened? Historians, at least the ones who care more about accuracy than promoting anti-semitic agendas, would beg to differ. The reason for these "outbreaks" was as clear as a Winter morning: the government was falling to shit, mostly out of its own incompetence, people were getting desperate, and they needed a scapegoat. It was just like racism in the Deep South in the 50s.
@yerk3 - check the numbers. That's why. It's hilarious that you compare the wildernesses of Poland and Russia with the deep south. Why do you consistently deny the involvement of Jews in mass murder?
@sandasassin18 no no..dont get me wrong..im not making fun of this comment...i found it funny..because...its funny lol...clam down..dont want to start a youtube arguement just to waste your precious time and mine
Idiots see the Terrible in Ivan's title to mean evil, or cruel, but the Russian word is closer to formidable, or mighty. His actions brought his country to a golden age that would soon plummet after his blood's reign had ceased.
@maria610421 What the hell does this have to do with NWO? "One world government" would be the enemy of despots, despots depend on enemies to scapegoat to maintain control over the people. Rule by fear was very seldom "do what we say, or WE will get you," it was almost always "do what we say, or THEY will get you." A modern example would be George Bush with the Taliban, or Nixon and the Communists. Without foreign enemies, despots have nothing to hide behind.
@yerk3: What do you think the Dictator of the NWO will be like??, I am not your problem the system of another totalitarian Dictatorship will kill you and all of your family you will remember nothing. History repeats it's self and all those who seek total power will corrupt totally. Zionist Nazis rings any bells??.
@maria610421 For one thing, I don't buy the whole "NWO" story. Every element of the NWO mythos is based on paranoid guesses and the flimsiest of evidence. Also, I've studied how authoritarian regimes actually work, and in every case, they need an enemy, specifically an external, foreign enemy who can be spun to represent the antithesis of their national values (an obsession with conservative national values is a hallmark of totalitarian regimes) to scare the people.
@maria610421 With the Romans it was the Gauls, then the Christians, then the Huns, then finally the Arabs. With the Ottoman Empire, it was Christendom, and alternately with the European empires, it was the Turk. Under Cromwell, it was the Papacy, with Ivan the Terrible, it was the Germans and the Tatars.
@maria610421 It was always "this may not be paradise, but it's a damn sight better than getting raped by the Turks / having your throat cut in your sleep by the Catholics / getting dragged off to the Gulag by the Russians, etc.
@lunafringe10 Look up Suleiman 1, James 1, Gustav 2nd, Augustus of Rome. The last one, Augustus of Rome, reformed the taxation system and the world wouldn't be the same today without him. All these people and MANY MANY more dragged their country out of dark times and into economical paradise.
@Bikertothemax1 that is one thing. slave labour, serfdom and so on are yet quite another, Plus all of those wars. Only the families of kings and emperors benefited
@masterkemp Dude, I was having a conversation with someone about the difference between Arabs and Persians, and the idiot said they were all the same. What an idiot.
"Ivan the terrible" liked to play chess,but only accoding to his own rules.These eliminated the king from the board, so that the " king" could never be checked.
That's false. He's alive and not doing too well unfortunately and in German custdoy being tried for crimes he hasn't commited. Learn your facts before you pass judgement. Ivan the Terrible is a survivor! God bless him!
oh this is a load of crap. Ivan the terrible was not one of the most evil men in history. And neither was Vlad. Ivan modernized Russia, in fact saving it, not waging a war on it as this show claims. And Vlad was a hero, fighting against imperialist Turks. His punishments were not unusual for the time and he was a great man. This is a lie
Was it standard practice when Vlad sliced a woman open from head to crotch when it turned out she wasn't pregnant with his child? And then laugh about it to the watchers on?
Ivan 4 was very intelligent and perfectly educated man. He was fluent in six languages (including German, English, Greek and Latin). His library was the greatest in Europe. He revived Russia from the ashes like a phoenix, making it the greatest empire. Furthermore, you incorrectly call it in Russian "Grozny" is not mean "terrible". "Grozny" = "like thunder, terrible to your enemies".
You stupid idiot. Son of Ivan 4 died of disease (may be poison). Historians refuted the version of the murder, but those Western liberals continue to denigrate the Russian by any method. He killed jews and traitors it is true.
@SuperTankT95 LOL I don't think one more murder or less would change the fact that IV Ivan was an evil monster. And it's not just that he killed it's the WAY he killed what makes him nothing but a pile of pigshit
Ivan 4 is burn the traitors, this was cruel time. In the Europe all people maked such things. Richard executed the thousands humans, but he is a Hero for you. Where was invented giletina, Spanish boots, vices for finger, puppets for executions etc ? . Western cry about "Russian monster" just ridiculous.
you couldn't be more wrong. Richard a hero to me??? I despise all fucking monsters who tortured people. They were (and are) nothing but pigshit in a human body. And so are those who defend them.
@original5productions yeah no no you're right man. russia just kinda won fucking world war 2, destroyed napoleon's army, united into one of the biggest countries in the world, they needed the biggest railroad in the world to get from one side of the country to the other. queen catherine used the first vaccine in history, and when russia was a bit down on it's welfare, king peter created petersburg from the knowledge of the dutch. russia has wonderfull art and music. compare that to america. HAH!
Ohhh, sorry; then it is ok to stab your son and literally fry people. My mistake. I thought that was wrong; but now that you clarified that he was smart, it's all good. I hope you don't bump into a smart man any soon... well, actually, I do.
@SuperTankT95 He left Russia broken and in disarray, and only knew how to speak Russian. "Terrible" came from the fact he pillaged, stole, raped, and torched his own country men and women. Where are u getting this ridiculous facts of a hero? Whats next the holocaust and WW2 didn't happen.
fuck europe u idiots think u kno russia, u dont kno shit, this is western propaganda, juss bekause ivan was against western bullshit he is a bad ruler? fuck u this is bullshitt
Ivan was a declared fan/admiror of Vlad dracula .He ask to his people many times to read him about vlad .(they actualy read the propaganda of a minority which existed and still exist in romania -the germans) . That propaganda sad that vlad was very cruelty etc..
i dont know im not totally convinced as soon as some one start boiling and frying people to death i have to take a step back and consider the person a bit closer, you know give them a second thought, sadam was rufless, starlin killed more people in russia and ukrian than the whole ww2 right? hitler was upset with the jews for a number of reasons search you tube for "alternative look at ww1,ww2" watch it all dont start stopping it half way through watch it all. murder is murder thou..a sin.
@milky0candy Not awesome in the way we use it. Awesome just means inspiring awe. An awesome sight can also be (and often is) a horrific or terrifying sight.
the word TERRIBLE in russian does not have the same meaning as it does in english, like, her pussy smelled terrible...its not like that
the word TERRIBLE more like FEARCE, thus, his name was really , IVAN the FEARCE.
there is a city in chechnya called grozny, which means terribe, but its really not terrible its fearce, I dont know who does all these translations but im fluent in russian and sometimes i bug out about how wrong the translations are.
I don't want to be an asshole but the word is FIERCE.
Almost every single post on this clip has totally shit grammar.
I understand most people here don't speak English as a first language, but it's an English speaking documentary.
So to properly represent your case you should be able to string some anglo words together. It's fine once in a while but literally every one of these posts is in broken English and it's very shitty to have to read and still try and respect the opinion of the post
@firebender213 because he killed his own people and stabbed his sons.During this time people say that ivan the terrible was just only belieiving himself that he can control his own country
Do you know something about the night of St. Barthelemy? 30 thousand people were then perished. The nubmer of the victims of Ivan the Terrible makes 5000 people. Who is more cruel?
Maybe but Russia leaders throughout history have tranceded all other European leaders in terms of cruelty and merciless oppression of their own people.
I do research amoeba brain. I read and study different material that is how you learn dumbass rather than sit at home smoking dope and watching cartoons which you probably did.
Ivan was called 'The Terrible' for a reason and that was not because he had bad breath.
Now go get an education child and leave the grown ups to talk.
By the way "The terrible " is a terrible translation. "Грозный" doesn't mean "terrible", there is just no word in english vocabulary that can translate this adequately.
Russian leaders regularly killed and tortured on mass they especially concentrated on their own peoples for it seems all their history until at least Stalin in the 20th century no other European nation has such a bloody history.
most of russians does not give a shit about totalitarian authorities or not. Actually they always liked strong state forms and considered nation's power as something more important than personal freedom. That's why Ivan The Terrible of Stalin are so popular in Russia
Actually his russian name is "Grozny Ivan" which means Ivan the awe inspiring and he could not possibly wage war on Russia because he created it. He was the first czar since his father Vasili was a prince of Muscovy and not a czar.
Also very explainable is the reason why ivan became terrible (although it's a false translation of the russian "impressionant"). A parentless child constantly in fear for his life threatened by rivaling fractions and at the same time taught to be ruler of life and death in the whole of russia. By maturing it's almost logical that he became aware that the only way to remove his fear was tot threaten all others and he had the means for that and above all he was educated to that destiny.
whatever can be said about ivan vassiljevitch it is very probable that without him russia probably would have never exist and the country beïng divided by polish, lithuanians, mongols, germans. Belonging to the generation of enlightened kings who, though it probably was not their first aim, partly liberated the people of the oppression imposed by local nobility and clerus.
Very sad story because both the actions of the czar as well as the bojars can be explained and defended.
What it actually scares me is that painting at 0:05 :(
KiraVicious 6 days ago
Silly the 3rd? No wonder...
smadzenites 1 month ago
@Zydocommy So you're saying he was a conquering thug?
TheHaeresiarch 1 month ago
Are there any modern day historical figures that relate to him some how?
verppppp3 2 months ago
A little known fact is that Ivan The Terrible's mother was Polish, making Ivan half Polish.
JozefKPilsudski 4 months ago
@JozefKPilsudski I hope you also know that Poland was an enemy of Ivan.
blokdeblok 4 months ago
@blokdeblok I do, I never said it wasn't
JozefKPilsudski 4 months ago
@JozefKPilsudski Ivan Terrible`s mother was Serbian.
I have no idea where did you get the fact she was Polish.
stidza98 6 days ago
i'm related to him
Trace314 4 months ago
What a bunch of bullshit. Most of these claims by discovery are just rumor and not rooted in solid historical evidence. Just goes to show they value entertainment and sensationalism over true history.
MrOrange121 4 months ago
Does anyone one know who the last man in the intro is? :)
PopeSweetJesus95 5 months ago
"All in the name of God."
Really? ARE YOU SURE?
That's a load of antichristian B.S.
MontChevalier 5 months ago
@MontChevalier Yes they are sure as it is backed up by facts. Ivan did what he did in the name of god, that doe not mean god told him to do it. You need to learn to comprehend and understand instead of just writing rather pathetic comments.
By the way, Christianity is stupid.
Ravensteinzh 5 months ago
@Ravensteinzh No, you're stupid.
MontChevalier 5 months ago
I would NOT want to go home to a man like that at :36!
KingOystar 5 months ago
This documentary seems very biased in that it portrays Ivan as a purely evil man. He did turn Russia into a world power at the time and helped it into prosperity...
xoleras777 7 months ago
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xoleras777 7 months ago
yeah this is shit. really? stabbed to death? more like CLUBBED TO DEATH. wtf you see blood gushing from the head. try stabbing a head, that's kinda hard to do man
lordofutub 8 months ago
"mankink" HAHAHAHHA
fishnet4media 9 months ago
sorry, to dissapoint you Ivan but that is not Christianity and you had no personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
pillowcase97 9 months ago
@pillowcase97
Duh! You can't have a relationship with a dead man!
N00bcrunch3r 4 months ago
/watch?v=f8wStvoB4iQ
KaizerSuze358 10 months ago
Ivan the terrible - last king of Rusia
KaizerSuze358 10 months ago
My name is Ivan :)
4857ivan 11 months ago 12
@4857ivan no seas terribleªª
julianxion 2 months ago
@4857ivan me too...You are russian ,serbian, croatian,bulgarian ?
P3LOVIC 1 month ago
Sure, I have heard he was even nominated for Nobel Piece prize.
dynamikausa 11 months ago
@dynamikausa *peace, you idiot
finbomartini 9 months ago
Discovery version of russian history is a such a pile of shit ...
ZolotoPartii 1 year ago
@ZolotoPartii Obviously. It was made for entertainment purposes, not educational, accurate purposes. Note they are highlighting the darker, mental aspects of Ivan. You want a documentary? The Brits or Russian version may be better.
votumseparatum1 11 months ago
@votumseparatum1 Doesn't change the fact that discovery shits in to people's minds.
ZolotoPartii 11 months ago
@ZolotoPartii Of course it changes the fact. No one FORCED you to watch this. You don't like it, don't watch it. It's that simple. Stop bitching and complaining and go somewhere else.
votumseparatum1 10 months ago
@votumseparatum1 and what comments are fore then ?
ZolotoPartii 10 months ago
@ZolotoPartii ...whhhhat? You can go onto any web site (or read a book, which I highly reccomend...No body reads book as much as they should anymore :p) ) and research for yourself though. LOL! :p
Aprann 10 months ago
i am a foreigner just recently discovered the discovery channel ...their shows are solid and watchable ..epic
xelbaga1987 1 year ago
lol does anyone else notice that the featured video is absurd fat chicken?
piNkLeMOnsDrop 1 year ago 2
@piNkLeMOnsDrop lol
ThebobbyDee1 1 year ago
Anyone notice how mush Ivan the Terrible looks like Vincent Price?
MrJtr75 1 year ago
now I understand why people say russia is so wild! stalin, rasputin and ivan...
JonnaJacobsen1995 1 year ago
Great,
Stalin
Rasputin
And IVan, why does russia have no many evils
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
@papasmurfXXX Rasputin was less "evil," than a con man who got an extraordinarily lucky break for a few years, then had the most epic death ever, was remembered for over a century as the epitome of all things spooky, rowdy and Russian, then had a good brand of beer and a shitty vodka cocktail named after him.
yerk3 1 year ago
@yerk3 - Rasputin (according to British intelligence) was assassinated by the British, to keep WW1 going. I don't know if you know that - your emails are so badly-written it's hard to work out what, if anything, you mean.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist Which "intelligence?" Which file? Because the scenario, as you put it forth, doesn't make a lick of sense. Rasputin was not a target of any strategic value. He was not a government official, he didn't have any control of the army or government, he was, at worst, a petty charlatan who took advantage of the royal family's desperation and gullibility, and tarnished their public image with his reckless debauchery.
yerk3 1 year ago
@rerevisionist If the British really wanted to damage the Romanovs, they would have had more success by telling Rasputin to do more of whatever he was doing, get drunk more, maybe make a few public boasts about how everyone's taxes were paying for his wine, and what an easy mark the Tzar was. As it stood, he was making a laughing stock of the royal family. Newspapers were running cartoons of the Nicholas II dancing moronically as Rasputin played some sort of clay flute.
yerk3 1 year ago
@yerk3 - Rasputin always said that he could have prevented World War I, by telling the Tsar not to be so silly. The peasants always opposed the war. He happened to be ill on the day the Tsar declared war. He had a lot of influence on the Tsaritsa, and what he said may well be true. That's why he was assassinated.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist Rasputin couldn't have prevented WWI any more than Miss Cleo from the Psychic Friends Network could have prevented the Iraq war. He was a mystic, not a world leader. What the peasants wanted was never part of the equation. Nicholas didn't give a damn about what the peasants thought, he considered it his birthright to rule over them, and for them to obey his commands and edicts without question.
yerk3 1 year ago
@rerevisionist Furthermore, it was the Austro-Hungarians who declared war, not the Russians. The situation leading up to the war was years in the making, there was no way either of the parties involved could have prevented it at that late date, even if they had wanted to, which none of them did. If any of Rasputin's "predictions" ever happened to be true, it was by sheer coincidence alone. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
yerk3 1 year ago
@rerevisionist You're damn right his "influence" on the Empress was part of the reason he was assassinated. Their closeness was beginning to look unseemly to various members if the royal family. Newspapers critical of the regime insinuated that the two were having an affair. Needless to say, this gave some members of the Royal family a very compelling motive to get rid of this flea-ridden peasant troublemaker before he could damage their family's reputation even further.
yerk3 1 year ago
@rerevisionist are you retarded? Rasputin was assassinated by Russian revolutionaries not the british
TheNewAlphabet 11 months ago
Remember this stuff is probably financed by Jews.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist LOL ^^
sandasassin18 1 year ago
@sandasassin18 - when you aren't assassinating sand, bear in mind there was hostility between Russians (and Poles and others) and so-called Jews, and the later managed to murder a large number of them. They have no inclination to truth in history anyway, and certainly would smear Ivan without a second thought. I don't know what I the T was like, but since Jews own most 'western' media, the chance of an accurate presentation is as good as the chance of a truthful account of the 'Holocaust'
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist The "hostility" between Russians and Poles and the Jewish populations of those countries was consistently one-sided, with Russians and Poles attacking Jews, murdering them in large numbers, conducting purges, and burning their villages. When did Jews murder "large numbers" of Poles or Russians? Ivan the Terrible's crimes, especially in the later part of his rule, were well documented. You can't ague with the evidence.
yerk3 1 year ago
@yerk3 - Even professional raciust cult apologists such as Eric Hobsbawm admit the numbers in 'pogroms' were tiny. The reasons for these outbreaks are not well known. Jews murdered tens of millions under the so-called 'Communist' regime.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist Why do you put "pogroms" in quotations? Are you trying to deny that they happened? Historians, at least the ones who care more about accuracy than promoting anti-semitic agendas, would beg to differ. The reason for these "outbreaks" was as clear as a Winter morning: the government was falling to shit, mostly out of its own incompetence, people were getting desperate, and they needed a scapegoat. It was just like racism in the Deep South in the 50s.
yerk3 1 year ago
@yerk3 - check the numbers. That's why. It's hilarious that you compare the wildernesses of Poland and Russia with the deep south. Why do you consistently deny the involvement of Jews in mass murder?
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist Because their "involvement" exists solely in your racism-addled brain.
yerk3 1 year ago
@sandasassin18 no no..dont get me wrong..im not making fun of this comment...i found it funny..because...its funny lol...clam down..dont want to start a youtube arguement just to waste your precious time and mine
sandasassin18 1 year ago
Typical Russian. Absolute nutcase.
Rockyfan10060 1 year ago
Idiots see the Terrible in Ivan's title to mean evil, or cruel, but the Russian word is closer to formidable, or mighty. His actions brought his country to a golden age that would soon plummet after his blood's reign had ceased.
Lestat13TheVampire 1 year ago 2
@Lestat13TheVampire It means both, actually.
TheHaeresiarch 1 month ago
Are we sure we need a NWO, under another one of these DEVIL from Hell, Histor has a way of reapeating it's self.
maria610421 1 year ago
@maria610421 What the hell does this have to do with NWO? "One world government" would be the enemy of despots, despots depend on enemies to scapegoat to maintain control over the people. Rule by fear was very seldom "do what we say, or WE will get you," it was almost always "do what we say, or THEY will get you." A modern example would be George Bush with the Taliban, or Nixon and the Communists. Without foreign enemies, despots have nothing to hide behind.
yerk3 1 year ago
@yerk3: What do you think the Dictator of the NWO will be like??, I am not your problem the system of another totalitarian Dictatorship will kill you and all of your family you will remember nothing. History repeats it's self and all those who seek total power will corrupt totally. Zionist Nazis rings any bells??.
maria610421 1 year ago
@maria610421 For one thing, I don't buy the whole "NWO" story. Every element of the NWO mythos is based on paranoid guesses and the flimsiest of evidence. Also, I've studied how authoritarian regimes actually work, and in every case, they need an enemy, specifically an external, foreign enemy who can be spun to represent the antithesis of their national values (an obsession with conservative national values is a hallmark of totalitarian regimes) to scare the people.
yerk3 1 year ago
@maria610421 With the Romans it was the Gauls, then the Christians, then the Huns, then finally the Arabs. With the Ottoman Empire, it was Christendom, and alternately with the European empires, it was the Turk. Under Cromwell, it was the Papacy, with Ivan the Terrible, it was the Germans and the Tatars.
yerk3 1 year ago
and swedes, we still have his helmet in our possession.
Borin81 1 year ago
@maria610421 It was always "this may not be paradise, but it's a damn sight better than getting raped by the Turks / having your throat cut in your sleep by the Catholics / getting dragged off to the Gulag by the Russians, etc.
yerk3 1 year ago
was ivan a very crazy man?
GeneralsAlert 1 year ago
don't mess with tsar ivan!
055697 1 year ago
all of the worlds monarchies were psychopaths,
lunafringe10 1 year ago
@lunafringe10 Look up Suleiman 1, James 1, Gustav 2nd, Augustus of Rome. The last one, Augustus of Rome, reformed the taxation system and the world wouldn't be the same today without him. All these people and MANY MANY more dragged their country out of dark times and into economical paradise.
Bikertothemax1 1 year ago
@Bikertothemax1 that is one thing. slave labour, serfdom and so on are yet quite another, Plus all of those wars. Only the families of kings and emperors benefited
from them, Death and destruction,
lunafringe10 1 year ago
@lunafringe10 They constructed large power structures which made the modern era possible.
yerk3 1 year ago
HAHAHA NOT FUNNY
TheZingazing 1 year ago
check out my video THE TERRIBL3 and angrybannokslap now thats history lmao
1238superdude 1 year ago
Ivan The Terrible......yanks what can u say lol, u never even had a king, immigrant nation.
MaxiBoOoY 1 year ago
this video just became by best friend. i'm doing a report on ivan, and well i need some info on him.
JonasLovatoGomezFan1 1 year ago
@ lordmalice-That's exactly right. Christ had a word for those types of people. Hypocrites.
dawnmarko1 1 year ago
That painting at 0:03 is a haunting image. A very compelling picture of what Ivan the terrible was like.
TheLurker101 1 year ago
lol not all us americans are absolute idiots (but most are)
masterkemp 2 years ago 27
@masterkemp agreed :) lol
LuisRC91 1 year ago
@masterkemp dont worry...that is just a stereotype of americans...but in reality it is the same all over the world
slovakmath 1 year ago
@masterkemp Dude, I was having a conversation with someone about the difference between Arabs and Persians, and the idiot said they were all the same. What an idiot.
MontChevalier 5 months ago
lol video info
"in the history of mankink"
patmon1293 2 years ago 2
"Ivan the terrible" liked to play chess,but only accoding to his own rules.These eliminated the king from the board, so that the " king" could never be checked.
QuantumLight4life 2 years ago
Well, I'm glad that Ivan is being tried in Germany. He deserved severe punishment. God bless America!
cardicianman1 2 years ago
@cardicianman1
:) American education so nice.... Ivan 4 died many centuries ago. ^^
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
yes thank god for our education i'm glad at least i was properly educated
xenocide8 2 years ago
That's false. He's alive and not doing too well unfortunately and in German custdoy being tried for crimes he hasn't commited. Learn your facts before you pass judgement. Ivan the Terrible is a survivor! God bless him!
cardicianman1 2 years ago
In Germany now judgment above former prisoner of war who was nicknamed Ivan the Terrible. The real Ivan 4 is dead.
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
I heard he was downgraded to Ivan the Pretty Bad
muzlinkage 2 years ago
@muzlinkage LOL
mezzanzi1 1 year ago
Hah i'm related to ivan the terrible he my great grandfather he is the reason i am 82% russian!
rydeath123 2 years ago
Stalin stablished a cult to the Tzar Ivan, the terrible. Such as Ivan and Lenin, Stalin had syphillis.
daltonagre 2 years ago
Super tank your right.The west dont give a shit about true christians which is orthodox christians.
Once again they try to portray muslims as inocent people hmm yes im sure they took over all those lands with a good old fashioned hand shake!
makdeonijatom 2 years ago 2
Vlad's impaling and this guy's boiling and frying is epically sickening.
2rani 2 years ago
@2rani
The two would have made a great couple!
N00bcrunch3r 4 months ago
oh this is a load of crap. Ivan the terrible was not one of the most evil men in history. And neither was Vlad. Ivan modernized Russia, in fact saving it, not waging a war on it as this show claims. And Vlad was a hero, fighting against imperialist Turks. His punishments were not unusual for the time and he was a great man. This is a lie
epearl8 2 years ago
Was it standard practice when Vlad sliced a woman open from head to crotch when it turned out she wasn't pregnant with his child? And then laugh about it to the watchers on?
georgekostaras 2 years ago
@epearl8 you can be only grateful that you will never experience the "greatness" of Vlad or Ivan on you own skin
sondano 2 years ago
fucked up shit
1960ClassicRocker 2 years ago
Ivan 4 was very intelligent and perfectly educated man. He was fluent in six languages (including German, English, Greek and Latin). His library was the greatest in Europe. He revived Russia from the ashes like a phoenix, making it the greatest empire. Furthermore, you incorrectly call it in Russian "Grozny" is not mean "terrible". "Grozny" = "like thunder, terrible to your enemies".
SuperTankT95 2 years ago 37
@SuperTankT95 oh yeah very intelegent man wow so intelegent beating his own son to death and torturing tausands of people.
I tell you one think go and suck so donkey dick u stupid bastard
sa1dikotar 2 years ago
You stupid idiot. Son of Ivan 4 died of disease (may be poison). Historians refuted the version of the murder, but those Western liberals continue to denigrate the Russian by any method. He killed jews and traitors it is true.
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
@SuperTankT95 i believe historical facts rather than you stupid assholes.U invent stories without any proof
sa1dikotar 2 years ago
@sa1dikotar
Ok subhuman, read this - w w w . perunica. r u/istoria/831-ivan-groznyj-ne-ubival-svoego-syna. h tml
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
@SuperTankT95 LOL I don't think one more murder or less would change the fact that IV Ivan was an evil monster. And it's not just that he killed it's the WAY he killed what makes him nothing but a pile of pigshit
sondano 2 years ago
@SuperTankT95 Don't you understand that noone gives a shit about libraries and empires when someone burns people alive??? You fucking moron you!
sondano 2 years ago
Ivan 4 is burn the traitors, this was cruel time. In the Europe all people maked such things. Richard executed the thousands humans, but he is a Hero for you. Where was invented giletina, Spanish boots, vices for finger, puppets for executions etc ? . Western cry about "Russian monster" just ridiculous.
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
you couldn't be more wrong. Richard a hero to me??? I despise all fucking monsters who tortured people. They were (and are) nothing but pigshit in a human body. And so are those who defend them.
sondano 2 years ago
@SuperTankT95 Grozny became Grosenick later on.
Billysrose71 11 months ago
@SuperTankT95 Yeah Russia is considered great......you sure know your history ha ha ha ha ha
original5productions 9 months ago
@original5productions yeah no no you're right man. russia just kinda won fucking world war 2, destroyed napoleon's army, united into one of the biggest countries in the world, they needed the biggest railroad in the world to get from one side of the country to the other. queen catherine used the first vaccine in history, and when russia was a bit down on it's welfare, king peter created petersburg from the knowledge of the dutch. russia has wonderfull art and music. compare that to america. HAH!
lordofutub 8 months ago
@original5productions y'know, just to name a few things
lordofutub 8 months ago
Ohhh, sorry; then it is ok to stab your son and literally fry people. My mistake. I thought that was wrong; but now that you clarified that he was smart, it's all good. I hope you don't bump into a smart man any soon... well, actually, I do.
Greetings!
alexpower21 8 months ago 3
@SuperTankT95 He left Russia broken and in disarray, and only knew how to speak Russian. "Terrible" came from the fact he pillaged, stole, raped, and torched his own country men and women. Where are u getting this ridiculous facts of a hero? Whats next the holocaust and WW2 didn't happen.
Uptalk 6 months ago
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Ioan the Fearsome: 4000 - 7000 of executed (terrible "Oprichnina").
Elisabeth I? Tens thousands were executed (around 80.000).
Richard III?
Henry VIII?
Mary I (Bloody Mary)?
Oliver Cromwell?
Louis XI of France?
Other?
Ivan was a great Tsar, who expanded boundaries of Rus', created regular army, annihilated enemies from East, placed boyars on their own place.
archanticipator 2 years ago
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archanticipator 2 years ago
Another well done but futile attempt to link the teachings of Christ to one of history's mass murderers.
dawnmarko1 2 years ago
I never blame my God who whoever god they kill for. It's the own person's fault.
heartofsilver777 2 years ago
@dawnmarko1 I don't think Christianity itself makes people kill specailly those who follow very closely the real teachings of Christ.
But, there is no denying that many people throughout history who claimed to be Christians have been awful and horrible people.
LordMalice6d9 1 year ago
@LordMalice6d9 just a dress wearin jew walkin around in a desert talkin crazy
mrsinister03 1 year ago
Organized religion corrupts where ever it is on the planet.
ZqweBSname 2 years ago 2
fuck europe u idiots think u kno russia, u dont kno shit, this is western propaganda, juss bekause ivan was against western bullshit he is a bad ruler? fuck u this is bullshitt
19RUSSIANPRIDE45 2 years ago
what do you mean? he did these things thou?
toycityworld 2 years ago
ofcourse in every ruler they do bad, but he united the russian people and fought for our culture and faith...
he was not as bad as this shows him to be.
19RUSSIANPRIDE45 2 years ago 2
Ivan was a declared fan/admiror of Vlad dracula .He ask to his people many times to read him about vlad .(they actualy read the propaganda of a minority which existed and still exist in romania -the germans) . That propaganda sad that vlad was very cruelty etc..
IstorieAdevarataX 2 years ago
i dont know im not totally convinced as soon as some one start boiling and frying people to death i have to take a step back and consider the person a bit closer, you know give them a second thought, sadam was rufless, starlin killed more people in russia and ukrian than the whole ww2 right? hitler was upset with the jews for a number of reasons search you tube for "alternative look at ww1,ww2" watch it all dont start stopping it half way through watch it all. murder is murder thou..a sin.
toycityworld 2 years ago
For example:
This stupid Voice says that the nobiliti was the boyars
He sayd that in the Vlad tepes documentery
Discovery sucks
napoleon10100 2 years ago
@napoleon10100 Look up the Oxford English dictionary definition of Boyar. It says old aristocracy, next in rank to prince. Are they also incorrect?
bn279626 2 years ago
@bn279626 in russian it sounds diferent
napoleon10100 2 years ago 3
Don't believe everything Discovery says
They just Spice everything,for more rating
napoleon10100 2 years ago
i like the background music though
milky0candy 2 years ago
ispiration of occidental cattolic medicine,terapy,parental
videokatrin 2 years ago
odierne
videokatrin 2 years ago
Ivan the awesome.
nokomarie1963 2 years ago
I don't get why people selected this as a poor comment, since that Ivan IV is also known as Ivan the Awesome in Russia
milky0candy 2 years ago
@milky0candy Not awesome in the way we use it. Awesome just means inspiring awe. An awesome sight can also be (and often is) a horrific or terrifying sight.
bn279626 2 years ago
Why was he called the terrible?
firebender213 2 years ago 2
the word TERRIBLE in russian does not have the same meaning as it does in english, like, her pussy smelled terrible...its not like that
the word TERRIBLE more like FEARCE, thus, his name was really , IVAN the FEARCE.
there is a city in chechnya called grozny, which means terribe, but its really not terrible its fearce, I dont know who does all these translations but im fluent in russian and sometimes i bug out about how wrong the translations are.
istayswhite 2 years ago
I don't want to be an asshole but the word is FIERCE.
Almost every single post on this clip has totally shit grammar.
I understand most people here don't speak English as a first language, but it's an English speaking documentary.
So to properly represent your case you should be able to string some anglo words together. It's fine once in a while but literally every one of these posts is in broken English and it's very shitty to have to read and still try and respect the opinion of the post
mistermajestyck 2 years ago
Fearsome is also correct as a matter of a fact...
milky0candy 2 years ago
@mistermajestyck Fearsome is correct, Fierce and fearsome are unrelated words.
bn279626 2 years ago
@firebender213 because he killed his own people and stabbed his sons.During this time people say that ivan the terrible was just only belieiving himself that he can control his own country
screwriod 3 months ago
Most leaders where cruel to all but not their own, Russian leaders where cruel to their own people.
chichipotle 2 years ago
Do you know something about the night of St. Barthelemy? 30 thousand people were then perished. The nubmer of the victims of Ivan the Terrible makes 5000 people. Who is more cruel?
blizniakov 2 years ago
wow a lot of this is wrong. he hit his son, not stabbed him.
kinneyboy90 2 years ago
yes, apart from some of the historians trying to be objective, the commentary is tendencious and subjective.
envanje 2 years ago
Apart from Catherine the great ALL russian leaders have been cruel.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
Not only russian leaders, cruelty was widely accepted by all world leaders at that time and i doubt even catherine was that peacefull.
envanje 2 years ago
Maybe but Russia leaders throughout history have tranceded all other European leaders in terms of cruelty and merciless oppression of their own people.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
Waw, how do you know? Did you live through the whole russian history? Are you, at least, some expert of Russian and worldwide history? Not.
You are just another brainwashed idiot whos inspired by dumb discovery channel documentaries.
chikimeimei 2 years ago
Chikimeimei
I do research amoeba brain. I read and study different material that is how you learn dumbass rather than sit at home smoking dope and watching cartoons which you probably did.
Ivan was called 'The Terrible' for a reason and that was not because he had bad breath.
Now go get an education child and leave the grown ups to talk.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
Yeah right, make believe, make believe.
By the way "The terrible " is a terrible translation. "Грозный" doesn't mean "terrible", there is just no word in english vocabulary that can translate this adequately.
chikimeimei 2 years ago
Groznyi means mor elike Ivan the Fearsome
not Ivan the terrible
terrible in ancient english would mean the fierce, not like the actual definition.
So correct will be Ivan the Fierced or Ivan the Fearsome
milky0candy 2 years ago
Russian leaders regularly killed and tortured on mass they especially concentrated on their own peoples for it seems all their history until at least Stalin in the 20th century no other European nation has such a bloody history.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
most of russians does not give a shit about totalitarian authorities or not. Actually they always liked strong state forms and considered nation's power as something more important than personal freedom. That's why Ivan The Terrible of Stalin are so popular in Russia
milky0candy 2 years ago
Stalin spoke about itself - "Ivan Grozny my teacher".
SuperTankT95 2 years ago
At that time there was no power without brutality in the whole of Europe and that includes the reign of Catherine.
While she was receiving the French philosophes in her salon the cries of the tortured where heard in the basement.
envanje 2 years ago
Catherine`s reign compared to the reign of Ivan or Peter or Stalin or the rest of the Tsars with a few exceptions is relatively peaceful.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
At least you admit catherine's reign was just "relatively" peaceful. You are improving your judgment Happy.
envanje 2 years ago
I`m so glad i meet to your approval oh great and wise sage.
SirHappyThe1st 2 years ago
That's because you deserve my approval happyone.
envanje 2 years ago
Ivan IV was greatest Russian ruler. Jews hate him because he has forbidden judaism and execution many jews.
SatorKein 2 years ago
Actually his russian name is "Grozny Ivan" which means Ivan the awe inspiring and he could not possibly wage war on Russia because he created it. He was the first czar since his father Vasili was a prince of Muscovy and not a czar.
H4mburgarE 2 years ago
Also very explainable is the reason why ivan became terrible (although it's a false translation of the russian "impressionant"). A parentless child constantly in fear for his life threatened by rivaling fractions and at the same time taught to be ruler of life and death in the whole of russia. By maturing it's almost logical that he became aware that the only way to remove his fear was tot threaten all others and he had the means for that and above all he was educated to that destiny.
envanje 2 years ago
whatever can be said about ivan vassiljevitch it is very probable that without him russia probably would have never exist and the country beïng divided by polish, lithuanians, mongols, germans. Belonging to the generation of enlightened kings who, though it probably was not their first aim, partly liberated the people of the oppression imposed by local nobility and clerus.
Very sad story because both the actions of the czar as well as the bojars can be explained and defended.
envanje 2 years ago
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envanje 2 years ago
Ivan just fight with moscow oligarchs who trade "Mother Russia"
Jacquinot1982 2 years ago