Carillon de westminster

[09WestTexas]

Yes...I like the piece myself (although I don't play it)...however, I would suggest that you listen to Alexander Schreiner (Tabernacle organist for almost a half century) play it. He studied with Vierne in 1926-27. You can find it on an old 33 recording "The Great Organ at the Mornon Tabernacle." (Columbia) The recording was made on the orginal G. Donald Harrison instrument...before the renovation of the present organ. Compare the sound. Enjoy.

[sininenfithrildi]

My brother used to play this, but now that I've heard it the way it is supposed to sound (a tempo and such), I like it even more.

[fourniturev]

A great organist and organ!

[Chesterbarnes1]

The picture quality is poor why? We don't hear much from the Tabanacle Organ. Mostly from the Center Sq organ why? I'm told that the Tab Organ is far larger and larger versitility? True or False?

[alexoldroyd]

@Chesterbarnes1

During the summer months the Music and the Spoken Word broadcast is moved to the Conference Center to accommodate larger summer crowds, and the Tabernacle doesn't have air conditioning. Year round, the Tabernacle Organ is heard in daily organ recitals. During the summer, recitals are played at both the Tabernacle and Conference Center. The Tabernacle (Aeolian-Skinner) is quite a bit larger at 206 ranks vs. the Conference Center's (Schoenstein) 130.

[Chesterbarnes1]

@alexoldroyd Thanks for your excellent information. Still have a few questions. When designing the Conf Ctr Organ, why didn't they build a larger organ like the Tabernacle organ? How does the 130 rank Conf Ctr Organ handle the large congregation that sings? Finally, I'm shocked or surprise to hear that the Tabernacle is NOT a/c? Why? It could easily be done I'm sure right?

[alexoldroyd]

@Chesterbarnes1 You're welcome! When designing the CC, space was a premium on the stage, and there were budgetary concerns. Also, the desire was the Tab organ should remain the premiere instrument on Temple Square, and as G. Donald Harrison's and Aeolian Skinner's Magnum Opus, appropriately so. The CC organ is on much higher wind pressure throughout and actually sounds great in the hall. There is a huge base of 16' and 8' chorus for the singing line, including (2) 32' manual stops.

[Chesterbarnes1]

@alexoldroyd You answers were good. The wind pressure from the bellows then increases the volumn of the organ sound, thereby accomodating the accompaniment during the congregational singing. You said "..(2) 32 manual stops.." didn't you mean pedal stops. But that size of the CC organ would dictate a larger selection of pedal stops than only (2) 32 feet stops. Thanks again

[alexoldroyd]

@Chesterbarnes1 - Correct, those (32) stops are available on the manuals (32' Dulciana in the Great, and 32' Contra Fagotto in the Swell). The pedal has (7) 32' stops available, and a 4 note extension of both the 32' Gamba and 32' Trombone into the 64' octave down to GGGGG#

Check out the full spec here (elliottrl.tripod.com/cc/spec.­html)

[1401JSC]

"LDS" is much more hip than Latter Day Saints, don't you think?

[ryorgan]

One of the world's great organs, maintained by resident Tabernacle technicians, and played by accomplished LDS musicians, Dr. Elliot being one of them. Hear it live in person and you'll agree.

[Chuckwsr]

I love to listen to Dr. Elliot play this magnificent instrument. He is a true artist- also note he does not use music when he plays his solos. I have a recording made by Alexander Schreiner on this same instrument many years ago called "The Great Organ at the Mormon Tabernacle". His recording is slightly slower and he uses the chimes at the begining to imitate Big Ben-really neat effect and since he studied with Vierne, I guess Louis taught him how to really play the piece!

[1401JSC]

No chimes in Notre-Dame de Paris!

Speed? Depends on the acoustic, the instrument, the mood of the performer.

[silverstartrucker]

Excellent...My large Fisher studio speakers reproduced the depth of sound ...

[muscampro]

Ha accorciato il brano.....

SCANDALOSO !

>:-(

[monkzie1980]

Well, I have to say that he reacted very quickly and recovered extremely well from the missed piston. As an organist, I've had the occasional misfortune to slip my foot. Its a pity that this top quality rendition is being remembered by a single mistake that so many of us have suffered at some stage in our careers... I say well done sir!

P.S. I love the 'flourish' of the left hand in the immediate aftermath of the missed piston to make up for the accompanying missed heartbeats!

[mikesolejazz]

I love it when he hits that piston by mistake, quick find the Tutti!!!!

Bless!

[ptrams2005]

Thanks for butchering the piece Richard

[metagicmos]

Because they are timed during their recitals. Usually they try to keep their organ pieces to a minimum of 4 minutes if possible.

[joeyboi87]

why has he missed out a huge chunk of the piece?

[AllenOrganCrazy]

For overall better quality add: &fmt=18 to the end of the URL.

[AllenOrganCrazy]

WOW!! That was beautiful!

[TrompenCham167]

He skipped a whole section! How could you do such a thing to a great piece of music! Was this a live broadcast or a recital?

[utahjeff]

Yes, this was taken from the live broadcast of "Music and the Spoken Word". The show is only 30 minutes long so they have to sometimes abreviate the musical selections to fit the program.

[metagicmos]

It was live. Also take into consideration that they like keeping their recital pieces to 3 minutes max; furthermore, if the entire song were to be played, it would have been too long for the program.

[pianoandpipes]

Extremely good playing - - too bad about the missed piston.

That is why I HATE playing from memory at the organ.

[codeman2008]

I don't think he missed a piston, I think he hit a toe stud on accident. Every once in a while, my foot might hit a random toe stud while playing a pedal passage. Not that he doesn't know which piston does what, I think his foot was just a bit farther forward than it should have been, and he hit the pedal and a piston.

[organ1029]

Which one is the temple?

[a55b47]

The one with the 5 spires, one of which has the Angel Moroni on top. The Tabernacle looks like an upside-down bathtub. But great acoustics !!

[AllenJBlodgettJrmota]

6 spires

[mjeff321]

You do NOT have to be a Mormon to get into the Tabernacle.....  you do if you wanna get in the Temple though.

[organ1029]

Do you have to be mormon to go in there?

[AllenJBlodgettJrmota]

no, this is the tabernacle. you can not get into the temple

[mortson978]

not without magic pajamas right?

[MoTabChoir01]

...garments...

[mortson978]

perhaps you can help me out, what is the significance of these "garments'?

[Classicalytrained]

THEY ARE PAJAMAS!!!! with maching slippers

[mortson978]

yes, and the significance is?

[Classicalytrained]

i dunno, LOL i flunked RSS

[mortson978]

oh, well, thanks anyway

[JohnOnTV]

My very favorite piece of music played on an organ. Nice video here.

[orgnst044]

I just got a response from a person by email. Uhg.

Due to the current copyright laws we cannot give permission for any footage or sound from the Music and the Spoken Word program to be placed on the internet for downloading or viewing.

At least now I know.

[grafixmaster]

Now what to do?....

[orgnst044]

Don't know.

[orgnst044]

My email has been sent out. Will let you know what they say!

[grafixmaster]

Thanks. I have sent them another email this evening. Please post here any response you get. So far I have had emails passing me on to other people. We will get there.

[grafixmaster]

Had a reply from them a few minutes ago - not good news I am afraid.

Here is the email.

... However, due to copyright restrictions we are unable to have any program or portion thereof available to be placed on the internet for downloading or viewing.

[orgnst044]

You and me need to talk definitely because I have several video's I have recorded and would like to share them with friends but I think it's breaking the Copy-Right with Bonneville by uploading it to YouTube.

Anyhow, I'm finished being the Crusty Crab. I wonder if it is even worth trying to send them an email considering they may not even reply. I too will give it a shot.

[orgnst044]

I really like this song too. The beginning reminded me of the clock chime!!!

Now I am just a little bit curious here and I don't want to sound like I'm jabbing somebody in the neck, but did you get permission from Bonneville before uploading this onto the Internet? Wouldn't this be like copy right material, huh??

[grafixmaster]

Worthy comment. I'm not sure what copyright T&Cs Bonneville have on their material. Needless to say, I'm sure they have them, even if just for the artists sake. I have contacted them, and am still waiting for a reply. Consider these videos available for a "trial" period. I hope they get back to me and give the "green light" with things such as mentioning their origin, with hyperlink in the "About this video" and their logo at the start or end.

I love this music, it would be a shame to loose it.

[Organiste06]

Great music, I like it, even if, at first, I was not fond of Vierne's music.

[classicalmusic1mzrt]

hmmm...It sounds different now that they restored the organ. Could you (grafixmaster) please tell me where I could buy this dvd?(also do you know the title?) Thanks!

:-)

[grafixmaster]

Not sure if you can get a DVD of this. Sorry. The tabernacle music is very limited in official distribution.

[MoneyManTC]

Very good, for the exception on the obvious shortening of the song, and the accidental stop change.

[AllenJBlodgettJrmota]

I know that Symphony for Organ no 1 in D minor, Op. 14: 6th movement, Finale was on Music and the Spoken Word once. Clay Christiansen cut a major part out of the piece and made the length roughly around 3 minutes, so it is not uncommon. It is only a half an hour show after all.