bozzio's enjoying himself! he was always physically, as well as musically expressive. chad has always looked laid back. they are both great drummers .... as for bozzio not deserving the kit?!?!?!? ... that's just a really dumb thing to say
a) he has certainly paid his dues
b) he actually put this baby together
c) he is trying to step outside of the kick/snare box, by playing some melodies
d) it's not just about fast rolls, just like guitar isn't just about fast runs
@jjmora05 chad is great but more sophisticated and technical than Terry? That is very overstated, Terry and Chad are great but Terry is far more a musical genious, look up some of his music he played in Zappa, it doesnt get any harder than that.
This isn't One verses the Other, it's more like a Duet of Drums! or The Dance of Two Drummers,one leads and the other follows, then the other one leads and the other one follows. I don't think anyone won, it just looks like Terry is working really hard,and Chad is just smiling and enjoying whats going on!
chad does win here for sure, but you gotta love terry's individualism (and orgasms). easily my favorite drummet of all time, and chads only like 2 spots under him. awesome video! and to whoever was talking crap about zappa... take a hike. just because you dont understand his music doesnt mean you can call it weak and awful.
Bozzio always gets owned by Wackerman when they play together. Chad has so much more style and elegance, and is in so much more control of the situation. Wackerman is an artist; Bozzio is a technician.
@51Thundersticks agreed they got too ambitious after the succes of spring session M, and went exepermential too early with rhyme and reason, when terry switched to an all eletronic set. they should have stayed more basic, kept ken scott as producer put out another hard edge new wave pop record, bulit the fan base, then gone experimental.
we need more drummers who are COMPOSERS. both of these guys lack MUSICALITY. I fucking wrote a POP song that is 100% CYMBALS ferchrissakes! Even my most complicated drumparts you can HUM!
@Oxpost If he had MUSICALITY, then ALL his pieces would be great COMPOSITIONS. You can't just cherry pick a few that fit this. That's cheating! (It's like calling a priest a molester and he finds you 3 kids who say he did NO molest them! BO-gus!)
@TouchingYou No they wouldn't. Zappa was a musical genius who composed orchestral scores, but he still had some extremely weird and down right awful stuff on some of his albums. Almost all of Bozzios solos are great compositions just look further than this vid and you'll see that too.
@Oxpost I've heard almost everything Zappa's done and most of it ws weak in my opinion. I like early Mothers the best probably. Zappa had no heart. His stuff is too academic. Listen to "5% For Nothing" by YES to hear GREAT complex music with heart. Or Emerson Lake & Palmer's first 5 albums. But if you like zappa than more power to you
I didn't know Alan Ruck (Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off) is such an amazing drummer. Gotta love the similarities between various celebrities. Even if they are a couple generations off.
Chad is from way back I recall hearing that name in Mordern Drummer early 80's or so? I never really heard him till just now. That dude has some game but to try and play is the same sand box as Terreigh? Well...There just isin't anybody alive drumming that punishes those skins like Mr Bozzio. It was Bonham but he's gone for years. now I remember that day when it was announced. Sad it was...RIP Bonzo
Just seems like the technicality of some of the other drummers isn't there. Sure there is a lot of movement all over the set but watch someone like Beauford, Buddy rich, even Barker for some of his solos and the fundamentals run deeper. Not to say that both of these guys aren't much better than me, but they're just all over the board.
Lol, you obviously know nothing about Bozzio's drumming style.
He uses pretty much all of it. It's because he plays melodys on his kit. He might not use it all on every track, but he doesn need it to be able to play melodys. A think one row is chromatic and one diatonic or something...
Terry's 60 years old? Damn! That's one timeless drummer. He looks and plays great for 60. Anyone would be proud to age so gracefully. He looks 15-20 years younger!
Don't worry when someone says that the reason you don't "get" Terry Bozzio is because he plays over your head. He plays over his own head too! That's the whole point of his style -- he goes out on a limb to find sounds and rhythms he's never heard before, to keep creative and discovering. It takes guts to do that and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. A lot of the stuff he does he probably couldn't explain to you anyway, because he doesn't understand it himself. And he shouldn't.
What would Buddy Rich have thought? I think he may have just quit altogether after seeing this god like exhibition of sickness. Every single not written down and played exactly as written. No improv. Genius.
@eqsmooth buddy rich is so much better then that bozzio faggot.. buddy rich new how to play jazz, type in terry bozio jazz and laugh at his pathetic attempt at it.
WOW! big time troll! you are. Ought to be ashamed of yourself. There is no reason for your comment. Buddy was possibly our greatest drummer but he could only play big band jazz.. He was so obsessed with it. In the 1970's none one wanted to hear it. He could only get a gig at high schools. I've met Rich (1978 & 1984) and Bozzio (1991). Buddy was a prick. Everyone knows that. Terry is a true original, never known for jazz but has played w/every great creator in the business. Now, go to your room.
@eqsmooth well, thanks for the little tid bit but that does not negate the fact that bozzio blows, big deal he plays dynamically and has an excessive amount of drums.. show me a video where he plays something that requires a great deal of limb independence.
You don't know shit & you are a very bad student. Bozzio has played for countless geniuses. Not one sane person in the world would say Terry blows. If they did it would be due to jealousy. He tunes his drums to notes. For what he wishes to accomplish he needs all those cymbals & drums. Can I tell whether he needs and uses 7 kick drums? So what? He made nearly 35 albums w/the Zappas alone. One must be great to play w/Zappa. He's recorded w/Jeff Beck. He's 60 and eats your lunch. Totally original.
all these arm chair drum addicts have no clue what these true musicians have done for MODERN drumming....just enjoy what your listining to and appriciate what these guys and a large host of others have done to put this primitive instrument on the map the last 100 years...we went from being compared to banging monkeys to accomplished composers, band leaders and respected musicians..if ya dont cant process what your hearing go buy a lady ga ga record
God, they do what so few drum duets can, they really listen to each other and respond to what one another is playing. It really does sound like an intimate conversation between the kits, even while they play such a technical part each.
Bozzio is by far the best drummer I've ever seen live. But I have to be honest. Since going out on his own he's gone SO far out he's lost most people who might otherwise enjoy his talent. Ostinato after ostinato, trill after trill, then a sudden burst of brilliance to reconnect with the audience, only to do it all again. Genius is one thing, but if your art becomes so esoteric people start thinking Barker or Jordison or Portnoy deserve your throne, you've blown it. Get back in a band, Terry.
@owlcu .... Although I really enjoy Terry`s solo drums you do have a point . I remember seeing him with Missing Persons in their prime ... he was like a caged animal , attacking the drums ... vicious flams , and double bass bombs .... a great showman , writer , and drummer .... to those of us who enjoy his solo drums , all those qualities are still there but I agree that he really shines in a band situation
I really thought I'd never say this, but there comes a point when too many drums looks like you're sitting in a drum store, not a drum kit. I have a lot of drums, but within reason. Terry's just outta control there. Never been a big Bozzio fan. Great polyrhythms do wonders for me also, but so do a lot of other aspects of drumming, which appear to be lacking here. In all, it's good and decent stuff and looks fun, but the drums are more impressive, which should never be the case.
I really thought I'd never say this, but there comes a point when too many drums looks like you're sitting in a drum store, not a drum kit. I have a lot of drums, but within reason. Terry's just outta control there. Never been a big Bozzio fan. Great polyrhythms do wonders for me also, but so do a lot of other aspects of drumming, which appear to be lacking here. In all, it's good and decent stuff and looks fun, but the drums are more impressive, which should never be the case.
Agreed on Chad, grooves move me more than tech skill. However, there's a place and time for each. I can only dream of possessing even a hint of their talent...
Both obviously amazing, I give the edge to Chad. To echo some of the others here, its all about the groove. Chad has more of it than Terry. That's just personal preference of course, but I think if you put them both behind simple 3 or 5 piece kits you would see the difference in talent and imagination come out even more clearly. Its easy to sound that good (ok not THAT good like these two) when you have a ton of gear, but strip it down to basics and see what happens
.. i dont know about you guys, but here's my take on the group of people who appreciates this kind of music - VIRTUOSITY. There are really people who has transcended into a higher form of music, not the mainstream type of music, im not saying mainstream is bad, but to those people who craves for perfection and absolute musical bliss, they listen to these kind of stuff. i'm one of them, i listen to vai, rudess and all those music-gods whom only a few can understand.
It still and will forever amaze how bozzio can have four bassdrums and still use them. not to mention the 3 hats and other percussion controlled by his feet.
having enormous sets to me doesn't mean that much.the set doesn't make the drummer,it's the other way around.i mean these guys totally kick ass,but i think they could give the same results with half of their kits..i don't like bozzio's kit.i prefer chad's,but generally i like portnoy's better :)
You should watch the video of Bozzio's kit being set up. In it he explains the logic ehind it, that it's not about having the most drums and there is a purpose behind having so many. He creates melodies by having them tuned chromatically and diatonically. He couldn't accomplish what he does by having less drums. Your average technical drummer can't do with a regular kit what bozzio does with his own.
@nickoo2nickoo2 You can never say someone has the perfect set. What works for Portnoy will absolutely fail for someone else. There's so many different factors for a good set. Drum shells, drum heads, number and size of toms, snares, and bass drums, cymbal company, cymbal models, various percussion, pedals, beaters, sticks...
You are exactly right. It's the whole reason Zappa's music was not found much on the radio...most people just don't have the capability to hear what is really going on. They just want to hear some fast one, two, three, four...just give 'em some whippin' post. All of Zappa's musicians were the best in the industry.
@skidrum11 The reason some people do not like his drumming is because he is not that good. If your play an instrument and people don't "get it", well somthing is wrong there. Also he looks like a half wit with that 400 piece kit. lol
@skidrum11 You either like him or you don't. It is personal subjective taste not maturity. I've met him several times and went to school w/his sister. He was no big deal at my college. Just a star for people who were into that style. Is he one of the greatest? Maybe, for me he is.
You people are way off. Did any of you read the title? "A Private Conversation in Music." They're talking, not competing. Neither is better. One is simply Chad Wackerman, the other is simply Terry Bozzio. That's it.
Yes, I agree Vinnie is a better drummer, more schooled and more technical... But I prefer Terry Bozzio! He's more valuable to me. Terry is a once-every-hundred-years crazy artist, more musical and more creative.
Terry Bozzio is an effin' BOZO! Totally over-rated. His "fame" is only due to his over-compensating drumset. (That has no crash cymbals) What a freakin' tool.
Yeah, I crack up when some of these freaks mistaken their personal biases and tastes for some kind of universal and objective truth. Annoys me to no end, not just for music related stuff but everything. And when you question them, they can't substantiate their statements, aside from beating you over the head with their opinions and feelings....That's why I rarely bother debating with youtubers anymore. It's a waste of time...
tis is very impressive but unless he was doing accents with his feet, the double bass pattern @ the beginning is pretty sloppy but Bozzio ain't that kind of drummer plus the sound quality on the bass is so bad I can't clearly tell if he's doing accents or not. I doubt even he could do double bass accents though. I also hope he can't too bcuz double bass is the only thing I have up on him, if he's doing accents now I'm gonna kill myself lol
Lol he can. I actually heard him in some kinda interview talking about how when his double bassing doesn't need accents (like straight-up metal style stuff, etc.) he usually uses the heel-up method, but when he's accenting them he uses heel down for greater control. XD
Chad plays so effortlessly and looks well normal..... real clean cut. Terri always made the faces and had a personal style that is more out there... I enjoy both these drummers. As a drummer for a long time I get bored with too long drum solos or even drum battles, but this is fantastic and entertaining, grooves and is musical. It really is great because Chad has so much discipline and really listens to Terri and compliment him. When two drummers get together, often it becomes un-musical.
Having a big drum set doesn't make you bad. It doesn't automatically make you good, you can play amazing on a rly small one (aka John Bonham). having a bigger one just gives more options and a wider range to play with.
Both just accommodate different styles of playing.
deftone is a wimp an wish he could do this.. uh the reason for so many drums is if you listen they all make a differant sound/pitch.. this is awsome.. no def go get on your machine and try to do this u fake ass rapper hahahaha
ok YES! about to piss a bunch of people off YES! Theres really no need for a big ass drum set like that YES! Ill rip um nicely for a brief second YES! Im sure Terry is a great drummer in his own right but this shit was rather boring KNOW THAT! Definitely listened to the same shit over and over for 4minutes and 47 seconds ILL BOMB THE NIGGA YES!
There was this dude at the county fair and he had a big drumset and he was all right but I kinda wanted to get up there with him and fill in some notes. Terry and Chad don't need to fill in anything with each other. They leave no note unturned.
paiste and sabian never sounded so good together
mycarpultunnel 1 week ago
Why can't people just respect the percussive genius going on here? Why do they have to argue about every tiny little fucking thing?
mindfreak990 1 week ago
Chad Wackerman's Technicality is amazing, along with Terry Bozzio's keen sense of music. Crazy!
SlicksTheEnigma 1 week ago
Goddamn. I've been drumming for 12 years and I've been watching Terry Bozzio for about 8 years.
Forgive me for my immaturity but I just realized after that Terry Looks like Liam Neeson.
drummakid101 2 months ago
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I HAVE THOUGHT THAT FOR YEARS!!!! He looks like Liam Neeson with darker hair.
mybassguitarpwnsyou 1 month ago
I don't agree with the "vs." description.... they are playing together, not against each other.
beelzabubba 3 months ago 8
Chad won!
IanTheDinosaur 3 months ago
@IanTheDinosaur nobody wons... they are playing together, not against each other...
KevMalakian 2 weeks ago
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Hey, if anyone has the time, do you think you could check out my drum solo and tell me what you think, what needs work, etc.? Thank you.
tylerdav1 5 months ago
bozzio's enjoying himself! he was always physically, as well as musically expressive. chad has always looked laid back. they are both great drummers .... as for bozzio not deserving the kit?!?!?!? ... that's just a really dumb thing to say
a) he has certainly paid his dues
b) he actually put this baby together
c) he is trying to step outside of the kick/snare box, by playing some melodies
d) it's not just about fast rolls, just like guitar isn't just about fast runs
critics make me sick
mwinstanley7 5 months ago
Q: Why don't bar bands play zappa? A: THEY CAN"T
twinsport888 5 months ago
I like Terry because he got to fuck Dale.
But I admire Chad because he looks like he;s having more fun!
panhead1219 6 months ago
ZAPPA!!!!
negosiandogasolina 6 months ago
chad is much more sophisticated and technical than terry.
jjmora05 8 months ago
@jjmora05 chad is great but more sophisticated and technical than Terry? That is very overstated, Terry and Chad are great but Terry is far more a musical genious, look up some of his music he played in Zappa, it doesnt get any harder than that.
quartarola 6 months ago
pega uma enxada e vai trabalhar de verdade!!!!
magnoxp 8 months ago
This isn't One verses the Other, it's more like a Duet of Drums! or The Dance of Two Drummers,one leads and the other follows, then the other one leads and the other one follows. I don't think anyone won, it just looks like Terry is working really hard,and Chad is just smiling and enjoying whats going on!
waynedanberry 9 months ago
wow
TheDJBoomBoom 9 months ago
Bozzio has too many faces as toms in that drum set :D
TheRealErnestogod 10 months ago
@TheRealErnestogod Hahahaha, u made me laugh!
TheArhonnyZ 7 months ago
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no disrespect intended to terry bozzio, he is a master, but did anyone else find the facial expressions humorous? 1:57 and 2:58 for example
TheRajfather 10 months ago
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TheRajfather 10 months ago
Those aren't drum sets, those are fortresses. And they're not just drummers, they're musicians. Keep it up, you two.
AllisterCooper2008 10 months ago
@TouchingYou Did you just claim Terry Bozzio, to NOT be a compositional drummer? 0.0 This is your first time seeing him, isn't it....
darkalleyheroes 10 months ago
Gee im a born Bozzio fanatic, but I think Chad won this one.
darkalleyheroes 10 months ago
its like every genre in one
mazar01 10 months ago
chad does win here for sure, but you gotta love terry's individualism (and orgasms). easily my favorite drummet of all time, and chads only like 2 spots under him. awesome video! and to whoever was talking crap about zappa... take a hike. just because you dont understand his music doesnt mean you can call it weak and awful.
kilobyte111 10 months ago
Very nice
roip02 11 months ago
What stroke roll is from 1:47 to 1:49 just the snare with no toms...... Please help
drnnhvcdsde 11 months ago
@drnnhvcdsde Just a single stroke roll with some accents.
H3RO73 10 months ago
Terry is OWNED!
timvlee1 1 year ago
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Bozzio always gets owned by Wackerman when they play together. Chad has so much more style and elegance, and is in so much more control of the situation. Wackerman is an artist; Bozzio is a technician.
coastal1010 11 months ago
Awesome Camera Work!
leetos 1 year ago
Chad's Snare drum ...........OMFG!!!
plenovo 1 year ago
classic/epic! champions!
goldniner 1 year ago
Missing Persons, as good as they were, could have been so much more.
51Thundersticks 1 year ago
@51Thundersticks agreed they got too ambitious after the succes of spring session M, and went exepermential too early with rhyme and reason, when terry switched to an all eletronic set. they should have stayed more basic, kept ken scott as producer put out another hard edge new wave pop record, bulit the fan base, then gone experimental.
fendergibs 10 months ago
we need more drummers who are COMPOSERS. both of these guys lack MUSICALITY. I fucking wrote a POP song that is 100% CYMBALS ferchrissakes! Even my most complicated drumparts you can HUM!
TouchingYou 1 year ago
@TouchingYou Bozzio does not lack musicality. Check out songs like "Samba Ousado" and then say that again.
Oxpost 1 year ago
@Oxpost If he had MUSICALITY, then ALL his pieces would be great COMPOSITIONS. You can't just cherry pick a few that fit this. That's cheating! (It's like calling a priest a molester and he finds you 3 kids who say he did NO molest them! BO-gus!)
TouchingYou 1 year ago
@TouchingYou No they wouldn't. Zappa was a musical genius who composed orchestral scores, but he still had some extremely weird and down right awful stuff on some of his albums. Almost all of Bozzios solos are great compositions just look further than this vid and you'll see that too.
Oxpost 1 year ago
@Oxpost I've heard almost everything Zappa's done and most of it ws weak in my opinion. I like early Mothers the best probably. Zappa had no heart. His stuff is too academic. Listen to "5% For Nothing" by YES to hear GREAT complex music with heart. Or Emerson Lake & Palmer's first 5 albums. But if you like zappa than more power to you
TouchingYou 1 year ago
@TouchingYou No heart. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Oxpost 1 year ago
art
asdfghjkl8611 1 year ago
I didn't know Alan Ruck (Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off) is such an amazing drummer. Gotta love the similarities between various celebrities. Even if they are a couple generations off.
DHLonnie 1 year ago
Chad is from way back I recall hearing that name in Mordern Drummer early 80's or so? I never really heard him till just now. That dude has some game but to try and play is the same sand box as Terreigh? Well...There just isin't anybody alive drumming that punishes those skins like Mr Bozzio. It was Bonham but he's gone for years. now I remember that day when it was announced. Sad it was...RIP Bonzo
rocknrollhoocheecoo 1 year ago
Just seems like the technicality of some of the other drummers isn't there. Sure there is a lot of movement all over the set but watch someone like Beauford, Buddy rich, even Barker for some of his solos and the fundamentals run deeper. Not to say that both of these guys aren't much better than me, but they're just all over the board.
bombadillo101 1 year ago
3:16-3:20 Terry looks like a kid in a candy shop, the passion is unreal!
MeinlFanatic 1 year ago
Doesn't Chad kinda look like Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Doesn't he??
screamjyser 1 year ago
Amazing duo.Excellent beat.Done with great feel combined.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
übertriiebenes Kit
Kraeezeu 1 year ago
screw terry. he is showing off. he doesnt need all that he barely touches all that shit.
KurdtKobain09 1 year ago
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Lol, you obviously know nothing about Bozzio's drumming style.
He uses pretty much all of it. It's because he plays melodys on his kit. He might not use it all on every track, but he doesn need it to be able to play melodys. A think one row is chromatic and one diatonic or something...
Mordain607 1 year ago
@KurdtKobain09 The thing is that he's good enough to be able to show off!
Oxpost 1 year ago
@KurdtKobain09
Thing is, he doesn't need to use every bit of his kit in order to compose a song.
MireWolf29 1 year ago
Super Mad, but Terry looks like a rat on acid.
Love it.
IsItQik 1 year ago
Hey, what the....one my tom-toms is missing!
DickBush007 1 year ago
@JoeJacari Playing music keeps you young!! :D
kevCalle 1 year ago
Chad was way better
drnnhvcdsde 1 year ago
Wow. That's one of the few examples of musical drumming you can come across. Fab!
TreyRoque 1 year ago
i bet chad finished setting up his drum kit and sat around waiting for terry to get his setup XD
themonkeylarry5000 1 year ago
I'm not the least interested in any of these drummers; i'm just looking for ideas on tuning and configuring my drum set.
not25yet 1 year ago
I pity the guy who has to put all those drums en cymbals in their covers... but I love the video, such a great intensity in their playing
quint555 1 year ago
Terry's 60 years old? Damn! That's one timeless drummer. He looks and plays great for 60. Anyone would be proud to age so gracefully. He looks 15-20 years younger!
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AMaskedZebra 1 year ago
i know Chad. he works with my school marching band sometimes
AMaskedZebra 1 year ago
wonder why they need a so big drum kit ^^
SafeSatan 1 year ago
REASON I WAS EVER INTERESTED IN PLAYING DRUMS.Been listening to and watching Bozzio live since he was 30. the greatest
eqsmooth 1 year ago
Don't worry when someone says that the reason you don't "get" Terry Bozzio is because he plays over your head. He plays over his own head too! That's the whole point of his style -- he goes out on a limb to find sounds and rhythms he's never heard before, to keep creative and discovering. It takes guts to do that and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. A lot of the stuff he does he probably couldn't explain to you anyway, because he doesn't understand it himself. And he shouldn't.
owlcu 1 year ago
What would Buddy Rich have thought? I think he may have just quit altogether after seeing this god like exhibition of sickness. Every single not written down and played exactly as written. No improv. Genius.
eqsmooth 1 year ago
@eqsmooth buddy rich is so much better then that bozzio faggot.. buddy rich new how to play jazz, type in terry bozio jazz and laugh at his pathetic attempt at it.
liondeag 1 year ago
WOW! big time troll! you are. Ought to be ashamed of yourself. There is no reason for your comment. Buddy was possibly our greatest drummer but he could only play big band jazz.. He was so obsessed with it. In the 1970's none one wanted to hear it. He could only get a gig at high schools. I've met Rich (1978 & 1984) and Bozzio (1991). Buddy was a prick. Everyone knows that. Terry is a true original, never known for jazz but has played w/every great creator in the business. Now, go to your room.
eqsmooth 1 year ago 2
@eqsmooth well, thanks for the little tid bit but that does not negate the fact that bozzio blows, big deal he plays dynamically and has an excessive amount of drums.. show me a video where he plays something that requires a great deal of limb independence.
liondeag 1 year ago
You don't know shit & you are a very bad student. Bozzio has played for countless geniuses. Not one sane person in the world would say Terry blows. If they did it would be due to jealousy. He tunes his drums to notes. For what he wishes to accomplish he needs all those cymbals & drums. Can I tell whether he needs and uses 7 kick drums? So what? He made nearly 35 albums w/the Zappas alone. One must be great to play w/Zappa. He's recorded w/Jeff Beck. He's 60 and eats your lunch. Totally original.
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owlcu 1 year ago
HOT
drdotislovinlife 1 year ago
Wow, who won?
astrophonix 1 year ago
all these arm chair drum addicts have no clue what these true musicians have done for MODERN drumming....just enjoy what your listining to and appriciate what these guys and a large host of others have done to put this primitive instrument on the map the last 100 years...we went from being compared to banging monkeys to accomplished composers, band leaders and respected musicians..if ya dont cant process what your hearing go buy a lady ga ga record
rr1313rr 1 year ago 38
@rr1313rr I love you
LonelliCyd09 1 year ago
@LonelliCyd09 thanks
rr1313rr 1 year ago
@rr1313rr
Thats right IF somebody could play like Terry Bozzio or Chad Wakerman he would ve the right to say
They arent THAT great
IF the cant play like them they should shut up
Your comment is one of the smartest i ve seen i years under a music video
Bozzio and Wakerman played The Black Page when they were only 23 years old
Zappafan1980 4 months ago
God, they do what so few drum duets can, they really listen to each other and respond to what one another is playing. It really does sound like an intimate conversation between the kits, even while they play such a technical part each.
That's really beautiful.
PickUpYourLighters 1 year ago
At 3:16 : Holy Shit!
sic82 1 year ago
Colaiuta!
kucoru16 1 year ago
wackerman!!!!!!!!!!1
CamerOneiric 1 year ago
Bozzio is by far the best drummer I've ever seen live. But I have to be honest. Since going out on his own he's gone SO far out he's lost most people who might otherwise enjoy his talent. Ostinato after ostinato, trill after trill, then a sudden burst of brilliance to reconnect with the audience, only to do it all again. Genius is one thing, but if your art becomes so esoteric people start thinking Barker or Jordison or Portnoy deserve your throne, you've blown it. Get back in a band, Terry.
owlcu 1 year ago
@owlcu .... Although I really enjoy Terry`s solo drums you do have a point . I remember seeing him with Missing Persons in their prime ... he was like a caged animal , attacking the drums ... vicious flams , and double bass bombs .... a great showman , writer , and drummer .... to those of us who enjoy his solo drums , all those qualities are still there but I agree that he really shines in a band situation
sweetfly66 1 year ago
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I really thought I'd never say this, but there comes a point when too many drums looks like you're sitting in a drum store, not a drum kit. I have a lot of drums, but within reason. Terry's just outta control there. Never been a big Bozzio fan. Great polyrhythms do wonders for me also, but so do a lot of other aspects of drumming, which appear to be lacking here. In all, it's good and decent stuff and looks fun, but the drums are more impressive, which should never be the case.
tyroneasteele 1 year ago
I really thought I'd never say this, but there comes a point when too many drums looks like you're sitting in a drum store, not a drum kit. I have a lot of drums, but within reason. Terry's just outta control there. Never been a big Bozzio fan. Great polyrhythms do wonders for me also, but so do a lot of other aspects of drumming, which appear to be lacking here. In all, it's good and decent stuff and looks fun, but the drums are more impressive, which should never be the case.
tyroneasteele 1 year ago
The guy from true blood has a double "life"!
I had the joy to see Chad live with Alan Holdsworth a few years back, great show.
havoc2048 1 year ago
boooooooooooo
AngryBlackMan7 1 year ago
BORED
bojorquez1234 1 year ago
OUTRAGEOUS BEHAVIOR
PLUR.
yendytok 1 year ago
so much drumm for nothin' come on.......
Wilo2807 1 year ago
Agreed on Chad, grooves move me more than tech skill. However, there's a place and time for each. I can only dream of possessing even a hint of their talent...
Xyrium 1 year ago
they both played 4 zappa and you need a considerable amount of skill 2 do that
drummerb0y117 1 year ago 2
I prefer Chad Wackerman
Manmadrum 1 year ago
Both obviously amazing, I give the edge to Chad. To echo some of the others here, its all about the groove. Chad has more of it than Terry. That's just personal preference of course, but I think if you put them both behind simple 3 or 5 piece kits you would see the difference in talent and imagination come out even more clearly. Its easy to sound that good (ok not THAT good like these two) when you have a ton of gear, but strip it down to basics and see what happens
marty3699 1 year ago
Oh what i would do to play on the same kit terry and chad play... you have no idea...
Rockband2stream 1 year ago
Terry Bozzio... :)
lukasshs 1 year ago
.. i dont know about you guys, but here's my take on the group of people who appreciates this kind of music - VIRTUOSITY. There are really people who has transcended into a higher form of music, not the mainstream type of music, im not saying mainstream is bad, but to those people who craves for perfection and absolute musical bliss, they listen to these kind of stuff. i'm one of them, i listen to vai, rudess and all those music-gods whom only a few can understand.
syvyvai 1 year ago
It still and will forever amaze how bozzio can have four bassdrums and still use them. not to mention the 3 hats and other percussion controlled by his feet.
AndrewAdler666 1 year ago
No WAY is there a drummer called Whacker-Man!!
mattmit 1 year ago
And Terry Bozzio wins!!!
litledrummerboy09 1 year ago
wackerman for me...his grooves are awesome but bozzio is a tech legend
ultimatefighter187 1 year ago
@ultimatefighter187 Grooves over tech! always.
mattmit 1 year ago
The Vinnie Colaiuta of 1979-81 would eat these two alive.
DocTurner 1 year ago
@DocTurner wow...the "Buffalo" album is a goldmine for every crazy drummer
foutupourfoutu 1 year ago
Wackerman's playing backup.
witchesbrewable 1 year ago
waoo q loco este vs de Terry Bozzio con Chad Wackerman
TheMalfal 1 year ago
just had a drum clinic with Chad tonight his dad is my jazz band teacher :)))))))
rockstarpro111 1 year ago
chad rox .... !! :D
paaaaatis 1 year ago
I got to see these guys perform The Black Page in Ft. Lauderdale. Watching them in person left me in sensory overload.
freezerbabies 1 year ago
having enormous sets to me doesn't mean that much.the set doesn't make the drummer,it's the other way around.i mean these guys totally kick ass,but i think they could give the same results with half of their kits..i don't like bozzio's kit.i prefer chad's,but generally i like portnoy's better :)
sweeney665 1 year ago
You should watch the video of Bozzio's kit being set up. In it he explains the logic ehind it, that it's not about having the most drums and there is a purpose behind having so many. He creates melodies by having them tuned chromatically and diatonically. He couldn't accomplish what he does by having less drums. Your average technical drummer can't do with a regular kit what bozzio does with his own.
sirotahaggen 1 year ago 3
your comment is the shit... mike portnoy as the perfect set because its really 2 sets and chads is cool to just bigger than portnoy
nickoo2nickoo2 1 year ago
@nickoo2nickoo2 You can never say someone has the perfect set. What works for Portnoy will absolutely fail for someone else. There's so many different factors for a good set. Drum shells, drum heads, number and size of toms, snares, and bass drums, cymbal company, cymbal models, various percussion, pedals, beaters, sticks...
Colerosity 1 year ago
3:16 xxDDD
Sammstein08 1 year ago
If i made faces like Terry does when i played the drums, I would quit playing
siti1ca 1 year ago
Bozzio haters go away. You have no clue. These guys are in tune if you know what I mean.
cjk9013 1 year ago
looks like he's trying to pinch a Huge loaf..... that aside... 2 awesome drummers :D
N1NJ4P1R4T3 1 year ago
If i made the faces that Terry makes when i played the drums i would quit
siti1ca 1 year ago
Frank Zappa (sadly missed) sure could spot a talented drummer when he saw one........
thekierongiles 1 year ago 33
@thekierongiles You couldn't have said it any better. =]
Ritchie14 1 year ago
@thekierongiles or two...or three...or four...and so forth.
ultimatefighter187 1 year ago
@thekierongiles ....Amen.
HilburnMcCormick 1 year ago
I want to see the Terry Bozzio conversation with Rahzel.
ironshaolin 2 years ago
I dont know how many times I've watched this video, but every time I do, it is still as badass as the first.
jazzydrummer69 2 years ago
Awesome!!!!!!
P.S. Wonder how much those sets cost.
torker24 2 years ago
That was cool. I enjoyed it.
sober8 2 years ago
Awsome, Chad laid down an awsome base for Bozzio to work on. Perfection!
arachnapheobia 2 years ago
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skidrum11 2 years ago 18
@skidrum11
You are exactly right. It's the whole reason Zappa's music was not found much on the radio...most people just don't have the capability to hear what is really going on. They just want to hear some fast one, two, three, four...just give 'em some whippin' post. All of Zappa's musicians were the best in the industry.
cadet58j 1 year ago
@skidrum11 The reason some people do not like his drumming is because he is not that good. If your play an instrument and people don't "get it", well somthing is wrong there. Also he looks like a half wit with that 400 piece kit. lol
jordanjcm 1 year ago
@skidrum11 i love polyrythems :D:D
Guitareben 1 year ago
@skidrum11 You either like him or you don't. It is personal subjective taste not maturity. I've met him several times and went to school w/his sister. He was no big deal at my college. Just a star for people who were into that style. Is he one of the greatest? Maybe, for me he is.
eqsmooth 1 year ago
3:14... doesn't seem possible, doesn't sounds possible... as amateur i think chad is much better
pedalla 2 years ago
You people are way off. Did any of you read the title? "A Private Conversation in Music." They're talking, not competing. Neither is better. One is simply Chad Wackerman, the other is simply Terry Bozzio. That's it.
thetopface 2 years ago 3
Terry Bozzio can do everything Chad can.
Chad cannot do some things Terry can...
That's enough for me to say Terry.
alanschamber 2 years ago
bozzio way of holding his sticks still boggles me..he is holding like chopsticks but hits like a logger
royrand 2 years ago
Wackerman. all the way.
He's so fluid.
ilovemutemath 2 years ago
To think that Terry B is almost 60 years old, and is playing this cool shit with those skills, brings hope and happiness to my world...
Unus1Mundus 2 years ago
Dennis Chambers.
xTjPx 2 years ago
I came
ubrsmcdm 2 years ago
yes, Vinnie is a monster too!
and let's not forget Chambers.
xTjPx 2 years ago
:-) xTjPx
You did meant C Thompson ?
ari1234a 2 years ago
Terrys great and Chad too, but THE best Zappa drummer ??
Vinnie Colaiuta, and that very objective and sustainable position :-)
ari1234a 2 years ago 3
Yes, I agree Vinnie is a better drummer, more schooled and more technical... But I prefer Terry Bozzio! He's more valuable to me. Terry is a once-every-hundred-years crazy artist, more musical and more creative.
Unus1Mundus 2 years ago 2
Chad is still the best.
period.
that's objective and sustainable.
:-)
xTjPx 2 years ago
Terry Bozzio is an effin' BOZO! Totally over-rated. His "fame" is only due to his over-compensating drumset. (That has no crash cymbals) What a freakin' tool.
Chad...now he's got the goods!
keosllama 2 years ago
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danphoenixfire 2 years ago
Just imagine cleaning all that!!! MY GOD maybe take about 2 month excluding the Cymbals.
Dionydejesus 2 years ago
Chad is the best drummer alive,
xTjPx 2 years ago
That's incredibly subjective and unsustainable.
jmmatos23 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I crack up when some of these freaks mistaken their personal biases and tastes for some kind of universal and objective truth. Annoys me to no end, not just for music related stuff but everything. And when you question them, they can't substantiate their statements, aside from beating you over the head with their opinions and feelings....That's why I rarely bother debating with youtubers anymore. It's a waste of time...
ritter89 2 years ago
Terry is fantastic. I've never seen him live. I've seen Chad many times with Holdsworth, and his style fit with that music perfectly. Great Video!
Vakinar 2 years ago
Wow ... Wackerman still looks like a teenager LOL :)
Fantastic video!
l3mu3lhu3r 2 years ago
i don't like them so much
nardook 2 years ago
i hear this stuff all the time! it's very good but it's not fresh! double kick pedals is all they focus on!
armmanser 2 years ago
The 2 main Zappa drummers for the most part.
GaryNull 2 years ago
Ha, Ha, They're called minus-the-cata!
leetos 2 years ago
what are the quiet notes after the loud notes called
drnnhvcdsde 2 years ago
tis is very impressive but unless he was doing accents with his feet, the double bass pattern @ the beginning is pretty sloppy but Bozzio ain't that kind of drummer plus the sound quality on the bass is so bad I can't clearly tell if he's doing accents or not. I doubt even he could do double bass accents though. I also hope he can't too bcuz double bass is the only thing I have up on him, if he's doing accents now I'm gonna kill myself lol
thnk4urself 2 years ago
Lol he can. I actually heard him in some kinda interview talking about how when his double bassing doesn't need accents (like straight-up metal style stuff, etc.) he usually uses the heel-up method, but when he's accenting them he uses heel down for greater control. XD
Acfeiln 2 years ago
it is drum masturbation
cyjanopan 2 years ago
Chad plays so effortlessly and looks well normal..... real clean cut. Terri always made the faces and had a personal style that is more out there... I enjoy both these drummers. As a drummer for a long time I get bored with too long drum solos or even drum battles, but this is fantastic and entertaining, grooves and is musical. It really is great because Chad has so much discipline and really listens to Terri and compliment him. When two drummers get together, often it becomes un-musical.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
That's so badass. I'm so jealous. Like woahhh :D
cricketrawrs 2 years ago
Thats music!
PodcastRady 2 years ago
dope
borishog 2 years ago
Having a big drum set doesn't make you bad. It doesn't automatically make you good, you can play amazing on a rly small one (aka John Bonham). having a bigger one just gives more options and a wider range to play with.
Both just accommodate different styles of playing.
N3CR055 2 years ago 2
I agree but both terry and chad are both extremely talented
666133666 2 years ago
Funny to see some footage of Wackerman with a few extra years on him. Until now I've only seen footage of him filmed on Zappa's 1984 tour.
FightTheElite 2 years ago
deftone is a wimp an wish he could do this.. uh the reason for so many drums is if you listen they all make a differant sound/pitch.. this is awsome.. no def go get on your machine and try to do this u fake ass rapper hahahaha
duecebaby859 2 years ago
What's with the overly exaggerated facial expressions?
DagonMetalMusic 2 years ago
bozzio got fucking emo shoes lols
Superchocolatedonut 2 years ago
then who do u sapose is up to his level of musicanship? couluta? wekel? theres ony a few
weeniepuppy156156 2 years ago
ok YES! about to piss a bunch of people off YES! Theres really no need for a big ass drum set like that YES! Ill rip um nicely for a brief second YES! Im sure Terry is a great drummer in his own right but this shit was rather boring KNOW THAT! Definitely listened to the same shit over and over for 4minutes and 47 seconds ILL BOMB THE NIGGA YES!
Deftoneskid1 2 years ago
There was this dude at the county fair and he had a big drumset and he was all right but I kinda wanted to get up there with him and fill in some notes. Terry and Chad don't need to fill in anything with each other. They leave no note unturned.
leetos 2 years ago
es mucho ruido para mi una bateria nomas no se entiende nada lo que pasa ni lo que suena
TheDavis700 2 years ago
I like how Wackerman's drumset looks normal compared to Bozzio's