AC INDUCTION MOTOR CONVERSION TO AC PERMANENT MAGNET GENERATOR FUN

[walkertongdee]

great vid muddy one question how do I get a motor like that? Or should I say how do I know if a motor is an induction motor or I can use any motor? We have motors form washing machines here...

[RHEAD100]

@walkertongdee An induction motor has no copper windings in the rotor

[walkertongdee]

muddy, you can but some baby powder in that resin to thicken it like bill does...

[tyreza79]

MAN §§§§ I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE 20KW MOTOR / WHEN WILL YOU UPLOAD ?

THANKS FOR THE EFFORTS

[RHEAD100]

@tyreza79 The 20Kw gen. is in. We built a platform on wheels and mounted it on platform. We have an exercise bicycle driving it now to figure the right gear ratio.

Takes very little effort to knock out 150 watts. I am hopping to make a test video today If not , tomarrow for sure. THANKS

[Marty450]

A question for Muddy and Boomer. I have a 220/440V dual stage 1/2 hp 3 phase motor.

It has 36 coils, im wondering how many magnets will work best with this motor.

Thanks you guys ROCK!!! I cant stop watching this stuff!

[RHEAD100]

@Marty450 Hi Marty ; WOW !  36 coils and 3 phase . I would really like to see that. Most of the 3 phase motors I have worked with have only 4 or 6 primery coils , with 4 to 6 secondery coils. Are you counting Actual coils or the groves in the motor that have wire in them.

[Marty450]

@RHEAD100 It has 36 grooves but each groove is the start of a new coil. The motor is a delta milwaukee, it came off an old southbend lathe.

[RHEAD100]

@Marty450 I think , if you look closer you will see that each grove is a " small part " of a larger coil. Can you take a pic of mthe inside and send it to me ???

[Marty450]

@RHEAD100 Sure no problem, send me a PM with your email and ill send them

[cphank151]

the gap between the magnets and the motors pole pieces should be as small as possible while still avoiding hitting the pole pieces with the magnets. It will generate more power this way.

Also, you get 50 something volts unloaded. That voltage will drop under load. Try loading it with a 40 - 60 W bulb and spin it. Your voltage will likely be a lot lower and your drill will have to apply more torque to drive it.

[tyreza79]

watch?v=kGT-YNlo7JQ

try to conver this one

[tyreza79]

thanks for the video :)

[RHEAD100]

@tyreza79 You are welcome. I just mounted my 20Kw generator to a exercise byck For test reasons. Will be making video and put on youtube.

[tyreza79]

i have a dc perma magnet motor smaller than this, with only my fingers i can have 8volts with very good intencity to burn and little light incandescence bulb, but if i turn it with a machine like you did, it give me 340 volt with great potentiel as to burn a 100 w incandescence bulb !!

but its good what you did; pretty iteresting,

but you could think of a motor that has more coils in it, so that you have complete ac cycle in 1/6 or 1/8 of a spin, with more respectivly more magnets as pair poles

[muddymuddymuddmann]

HEY BOOMER, WEEEHAWW! THINGS ARE LOOKING UP. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT IT LATER.

MUDDy

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[DynamiitHarry]

We have a project in school and I'm building a small wind turbine and my goal is to power a cell-phone battery/Iphone.

I took an 230V 30W AC-motor from a table fan and bought some neodymium magnets from ebay (15x3mm, N35). Now I'm about to drill holes for these magnets in the rotor but I don't know how many magnets I should use. Is four optimal? Let's say I go for four, should two of the magnets be put down the opposite way of the others or all the same way?

[muddymuddymuddmann]

@DynamiitHarry CHECK TO SEE HOW MANY COILS THERE ARE AND WHAT WIRE CONNECTIONS YOU HAVE. ONE EASY WAY TO CHECK THINGS OUT IS... TAKE A CAR BATTERY AND A TAIL LIGHT BULB, AND CONNECT THEN IN SERIES ACROSS THE WIRES. THEN USE A COMPASS TO CHECK THE POLARITY OF THE STATER COILS METAL LAMINANTS. THIS SHOULD SHOW THE FULL COIL CIRCUIT BEING TESTED. THE TAIL LIGHT BULB IS TO LIMIT CURRENT INTO THE COILS AND KEEP THEM FROM FRYING. LOL.

MUDDy

[lar4305]

Wow, very interesting, i wish i had a teacher like you in school, and maybe i would not have missed so many days. lol

[RHEAD100]

@lar4305 Anything you enjoy, you will excel at. The classes you enjoyed, you did well in. The others were almost impossible.

Boomer.

[itsandbits1]

why not just use that big squirrel cage synchronous generator as is? Put some caps on it and let er ri.p you'll get more power than you know what to do with. Might have to gear up a 20 ft prop 3-4 to 1 to get the rpm up to it's rated speed

[RHEAD100]

@itsandbits1 That's the idea!

boomer

[jimrojas62]

Nice video. If you want to eliminate the cogging effect, you will have to add more magnets. I would try 6 to 8 magnets. This will also allow you generate power at much lower RPM's. You will have much better results with a 3 phase motor.

[RHEAD100]

@jimrojas62 Because of the way a 3 phase motor is wound any more magnets than coils will cancle out and you will get NO electricity. Been there , Done that , did not work. one whole day and 40 mags in the trash.

[KyleCarrington]

At 10:15 you say "I figure if I put a _________ prop on this thing, it'll charge a battery." What did you say there? It seems to need to go awfully fast to bring up to open circuit (not loaded circuit) voltage. Neat idea tho, if it's successful I'd enjoy doing a similar sort of thing. Thanks for sharing.

[RHEAD100]

@KyleCarrington Scott said if I put a 2 foot prop on it in a 15 to 20 mile an hour it sholud do nicely..

We have converted thers cence then and they really work good.

[KyleCarrington]

@RHEAD100 Thanks for the reply. I was wondering, if you take an AC motor, and do as you have done, are you better to start off with a low RPM motor, than a faster one? I do have a washing machine 220(240) motor that could be a donor. Thanks again, loving your channel, you guys are ACE tinkerers.

[RHEAD100]

@KyleCarrington Not sure but I believe a low rpm high torck motor would work nicly

[muddymuddymuddmann]

@KyleCarrington HEY KYLE,

MUDDY HEAR, DEFINITELY LOWER RPM MOTORS WORK BEST. DOES THE WASHER MOTOR HAVE CAPACITORS? IF SO THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO MAKE IT GENERATE.

THE EXPLANATION TAKES A BIT MORE SPACE THAN WE HAVE HERE IN THE COMMENT SECTION.

MUDDy

[KyleCarrington]

@muddymuddymuddmann I don't recall seeing caps on it. I made a mistake though, it's a dryer motor 220VAC. It failed so I bought a new one, put it in, but I suppose I was thinking that it really didn't matter that it failed. I'll rip it apart and inspect the bearing, I've forgotten why it failed in the first place. You know, new appliance, made to die young LOL gotta love it (NOT)

[muddymuddymuddmann]

@KyleCarrington MORE THAN LIKELY THE COILS ARE BURNED OUT. IF THE BEARINGS GO BAD, IT DRAWS MORE AMPS TO RUN IT. TRY CHECKING CONTINUITY WITH AN OHM METER.

MUDDy

[muddymuddymuddmann]

@KyleCarrington 2 TO 2 1/2 FOOT PROP SHOULD GIVE AN RPM ENOUGH TO GET TO CHARGING VOLTAGE. THE DRILL MOTOR IS SPINNING MUCH FASTER THAN THE GEARED OUTPUT CHUCK. ALTHOUGH THERE ISNT MUCH POWER IN THAT SMALL OF A PROP. BUT IT IS A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR ABOUT 20 LEDs.

MUDDy

[ImJacksAmygdala]

I'm so glad you guys are on the same team. Please look into the delayed Lenz coil experiments where the rotor speeds up with load and flux saturation. This means less Lenz load at mechanical rotor speed on a Sterling powered magnet rotor that can fill flux to Lasersabers super joule thief toroid. Think of the toroid like a flux reservoir in a hydroelectric dam. Then split water in a non electrolyte WFC and use a Bunsen burner to the sterling hot side. I have not seen a vid that does this yet.

[muddymuddymuddmann]

@ImJacksAmygdala THIS SOUNDS FASCINATING, GIVE ME MORE INFO TO SEACH OUT ON THIS PLEASE.

MUDDy