I loved this movie cant blame the poor kid for going UA if he was drafted and couldn't hack it not that I thinking going UA is cool. But I post the link to the full movie i found it on megavideo.
The late 60's was not the Corps' finest hour: heavy casualties in Nam forced acceptance of drafteees, and recruit training cycles were shortened , led by noncoms who often fell short of what we'd expect from DI's today. It was the beginning of a downward trend that hit its bottom in the 70's.
Boot camp radically improved improved when Al Gray took over as Commandant. He instituted the Crucible, e.g. Today's Corps is a leaner and meaner Corps than what existed when this movie was made.
Agree with Ben. My Marine experince was as a Marine Military Academy cadet in the early to mid 70's. But it was genuine and we had the "real deal" retired DI's and colonels & generals to kick our butts. The military in those days was sad. Very pathetic. People went in to avoid jail. I give Ronald Reagan credit for restoring pride in wearing the uniform.
Part of the problem in the Sixties (and this movie shows it) is that the Corps had draftees back then. Show up for induction, and some recruiter with a short quota that month decides you're a Marine.
I say this with the utmost respect for the Corps, but, you have to WANT to wear that eagle, globe & anchor. I'm sure there are draftee vets who will assert that it was the best experience of their life. But do we really want lives of other Marines depending upon those who are forced to be there?
True. Way too many "shitbirds" got inducted back in that day who should never have been there. Hopefully, we are past the point which the military is some alternative to prison.
Still, I know a lot of "borderline cases" who found themselves in the Corps when given just such a choice. One guy got his GED at Pendleton after boot camp. He's now an appellate court judge.
I loved this movie cant blame the poor kid for going UA if he was drafted and couldn't hack it not that I thinking going UA is cool. But I post the link to the full movie i found it on megavideo.
soxcaloc 2 years ago
I wish the whole movie was on here. Great flick. Did Jan M. Vincett ever get himself straightened out? Sad
sargoth37 2 years ago 2
me to I love to see this again it years since i seen this i hardly remember it
knightedmarkie 2 years ago
The late 60's was not the Corps' finest hour: heavy casualties in Nam forced acceptance of drafteees, and recruit training cycles were shortened , led by noncoms who often fell short of what we'd expect from DI's today. It was the beginning of a downward trend that hit its bottom in the 70's.
Boot camp radically improved improved when Al Gray took over as Commandant. He instituted the Crucible, e.g. Today's Corps is a leaner and meaner Corps than what existed when this movie was made.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago 3
the crucible didnt come around till the mid 90's
ConfederateTanker1 2 years ago
You're correct. Krulak instituted it, not Gray.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
Agree with Ben. My Marine experince was as a Marine Military Academy cadet in the early to mid 70's. But it was genuine and we had the "real deal" retired DI's and colonels & generals to kick our butts. The military in those days was sad. Very pathetic. People went in to avoid jail. I give Ronald Reagan credit for restoring pride in wearing the uniform.
WilliamRowlett 2 years ago
Part of the problem in the Sixties (and this movie shows it) is that the Corps had draftees back then. Show up for induction, and some recruiter with a short quota that month decides you're a Marine.
I say this with the utmost respect for the Corps, but, you have to WANT to wear that eagle, globe & anchor. I'm sure there are draftee vets who will assert that it was the best experience of their life. But do we really want lives of other Marines depending upon those who are forced to be there?
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
True. Way too many "shitbirds" got inducted back in that day who should never have been there. Hopefully, we are past the point which the military is some alternative to prison.
WilliamRowlett 2 years ago
Still, I know a lot of "borderline cases" who found themselves in the Corps when given just such a choice. One guy got his GED at Pendleton after boot camp. He's now an appellate court judge.
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
Me too
knightedmarkie 3 years ago
Jan-Michael Vincent's headshave is one of my favorite movie scenes.
blueswirl7 3 years ago