@mkfag77: ok smarty pants, on price for a laptop with those specific specs, macs start at: 2500.(and mac book pros come with i7 processors in the 17 inch range, not i5, you must have an old one).
for 2500 in a windows system, I've got twice the system you will ever have.
Heck my rebuilt athlon dual core(3ghz), with 8gb of ram, and twin hard drives at 17" only cost me 400(new it was only 600). and it has a blue ray drive in it. Do that on a mac(hee hee).
@termiborger, dude, the imacs start at 2 grand, for that price i can buy 5 times the windows box.
And sorry the specs are crap, i mean seriously 16gb max memory?
For the price of a maxed out imac(3700), i could build my dream system. multiple blue ray drives(sorry macs don't have those), and multiple sli/crossfire videocards(sorry macs don't have those either).
@mkfag77 Now do you mean for the 2g system or the 3700?
Frankly it's irrelevant since i don't NEED a high end monitor(and since almost nothing is natively encoded to actually take advantage of the higher resolution, it's kinda irrelevant).
But if you want i'll take the challenge, for 983(new egg), i can get a 27" ips panel.
Now since i don't do intel processors to begin with, i'll just humor you and build a system that has the same specs of a mac, and come under the cost. watch for my next post
@mkfag77 ok so the total for my comparable system was......
drum roll.........
Total:1458.91, with a 27" ips panel. and a 3.1 ghz i5.
Now the specific components.
First i don't own any of these as i only us intel for specific purposes(tablet, server and a laptop, but all bought second hand and really cheap, all three together cost less than 400).
Also, i am not saying this rig will beat a mac performance wise, i just wanted to prove it can be built for a lot less.
@DMaggiam So right out of the box, Mac is already set up for the blind? Not to mention that there is already software in the OS that caters to the blind. I'm not quite sure why you think that it'll cost $1000 to cater to the blind.
@wilhamlin Yes, it comes with VoiceOver....Windows requires outside software. You can use NVDA which is free, but for full accessibility with a variety of software, JAWS seems to be the standard with Windows.Add to that it's what most users who are blind are introduced to in their school days, so they end up being most comfortable with it on a PC. 800-1000 bucks for JAWS....plus a few hundred every time you want to update it. Apple makes all of it's devices fully accessible.
@DMaggiam So, your saying the only option is to go and buy other programs... instead of actually going into the control panel and looking for the settings for said blind? That sounds like a great idea -_-
@wilhamlin I gave you your two options (there are others...but pretty much the same). NO BLIND PERSON uses the Windows built in stuff...it's garbage. I teach people who are blind how to use screen readers...for 10 years. I've never met one who thinks what microsoft does is adequate. It is not a screen reader in any real sense. Face it, on accessibility Microsoft blows. Apple is better, at least in this area. You should try the "better spec" arguments, you'll go further.
i especially love the "resistance is futile" part.. hmm, lets think about it, that phrase "resistance is futile" is like saying "give up, were going to win, we out number you".. and thats what you pc fan boys all have in common.. denial. i mean, you may have been what was popular the past decade or so.. but look at sales numbers mac to pc... Apple is leaving PC in the dust.. Facts and figures don't lie fellas... have fun building you bulky metal boxes.. i much prefer smaller aluminum toys :)
@jasonwhitton i dont think you can call taht denial, there are more pcs because of its ability to be customized, which means much more varying kinds of computers. i am not dissing mac, they are simple and easy to use, yet for those people who wants to make their own computer, a "personal computer", PC would be best for them, not mac.
No, you're just an idiot. If you want to go down the path of ancient "computers" then you are wrong anyway, in 1623 Wilhelm Schickard developed the first mechanical calculator. That must be the TRUE ancestor of the computer! :S
You're a fucking dumbshit to compare a electronic computer (aka. PC) to a mechanical calculator (aka Z1), read my comment before making idiotic remarks in relation to the modern computers of today.
@mentalone1995 if thats the way you want to play then ok but you started this argument with me an if you want to play that way then lets go back to binary codes found thousands of years ago and dont try to out swear me ya auzzie pirk im scottish and if u hate mac then ur jealous because you cant afford one so go fuck a kangaroo
@uchihasasuke7863 I have a Mac, I use it for editing at school. It's much better than PC for movies, photos and other stuff. But I use PC more because its more adaptive.
Oh wow you're Scottish like I care. Considering your country is so close to England, one would think you'd know how to spell. I have no idea what a 'pirk' is! I guess you mean prick you dumbshit.
It was never an argument, I told you the truth and you retaliated.
I'm actually suprised you know what a kangaroo is...
@mentalone1995 listen dude im really srry bout this my lil bro has been using my mac because his pc is broke iv been studying for college he has had 3 pc's i guess thats why he hates them im not a pc fan but they're ok and in scotland for quickness we say prik but yeah its prick and the scots hate the english btw
@uchihasasuke7863 I feel somewhat inclined to believe you but I don't understand why you would let your little brother use your computer. If it really is your lil' bro tell him to get off the internet if he just picks fights.
it does not have many games. it costs twice as much. you can't edit html in any of it's default programs. click and drag from cd's just creates shortcuts. Internet Explorer owns Safari. Microsoft word> open office . The shortcuts are confusing. windows lets you know when it fails. windows has updates that include FREE software.
@sirrisracing 1.use bootcamp for games that arent released on mac 2. who cares? 3. what? 4. Internet explorer is the worst browser ever, but you can download it for mac, i prefer chrome though. 5. you do realize there are versions of office for mac right? 6. macs COME WITH software, some of it you can't even get an equivilant program for windows, and updates are always free on macs, and pretty much everything else too. (consoles and stiff)
@andj2009 1. Correct. Or Parallels, if you're lazy. 2. Macs have higher initial cost but lower TCO (look it up). 4. IE = biggest fail ever. 5. iWork and iLife > Office. 6. Correct. For example, Mac comes with Safari but you can uninstall it. Windows = IE cant be uninstalled. And yeah, Mac doesn't come with shitty trial programs.
Rarely crash, yes. Invulnerable to viruses, no. However, they are far less prone to getting them. can't get one from surfing the web alone. Must download infected file.
@schm147 I built my PC, I didn't install shitty trial software, I installed Firefox right away and haven't seen internet explorer in several months, My initial cost is less than a third of what a "comparable" mac's is (there isn't a mac on the market with as much power), so even if I end up replacing EVERY part in my computer TWICE I will still break even. Even if Mac's can't get a virus by just surfing the web, they are easier to hack, thus more susceptible.
He's actually 100% correct. Pwn2Own stats for the past 4 years show every Apple device falling first with little to no trouble. Experts agree that Apple's security is practically non-existent, and have warned Apple outright that as market share grows, so too will exploitation and issues with malware (which is three times as easy to write for a Mac) and hack attacks (which do not require ROOT access). The obscurity of market share is Apple's sole source of protection at this time.
"As you're well aware by now, the MacBook Air on display was seized in two minutes by the presumably well prepared Charlie Miller, and after two full days of work, Shane Macaulay and a few of his 1337 associates managed to crack the Vista rig on Friday"
you might also want to know that browser exploits showed Interner Explorer with 3 vulnerabilities, and Apple's Safari with a shocking 60. That's a 57-exploit difference. In other words, please.....research first. Your own worst enemy is yourself when you're buying from a tech company and relying on their biased sources for information. 3/4 of Apple's testimony is incorrect. The other 1/4 is fudged.
I told you. Google "Pwn2Own." Any one of them. I can't post links here and I really hate having to put spaces in between stuff to fool YouTube. Better yet, Google "Pwn2Own Mac" or "Pwn2Own Apple" and watch the information pour in.
@sirrisracing games are for neanderthals. show me a pc half as much as 30 inch imac, xcode, have you been watching hunter cressal again about shortcuts on the desktop? how is ie better than safari? what shortcuts are confusing? windows fails a lot? free shitty software=not impressed
@mkfag77 1. 69% of the worlds population play games 2.there is no 30" iMac, i could do the 27 if you like 3. xCode sucks... a lot 4. Apples drag and drop does only create shortcuts, copy paste isn't a huge deal but it's more convenient 5. IE has 3 vulnerabilities whereas Safari has 60 6. there are plenty that don't make sense 7. it doesn't fail alot, but it tells you whats wrong 8. that's all iLife is, free shitty software.
@wilhamlin 1) are you actually saying that solitaire players 2) sorry, meant 27 inch, their biggest, nonetheless. go for it 3) your proof? 4) your proof or source because mine doesn't 5 source? 6) some examples please. 7) not in windows 8) spoken like someone who hasnt USED ilife
@mkfag77 1) no, that number is is anyone who owns at least one console. 2) Alienware with an i7 @ 3.9 GHz and comparable GPU $1629 Vs. Apple- i7 clocked at 3.4 $2,499, everything else is the same 3) creating the same program on xCode and any other programing tool takes twice as long on average with xCode 4) I've spent the last 8 months using snow leopard on my sisters old Macbook 5) searc for Pwn2Own safari, you'll find it
@wilhamlin 69%of all the people in the world own a console? how many people in china have them? india? etc. 2)same operating system? same software? same build quality? 3) your proof? otherwise i can say that it takes 345566 times longer in windows. 4) please make a vid of that (you won't) 5) this shows far more for ie ht tp://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
@mkfag77 about 66 million in China play online (there's no telling how many offline) about 41% of India's population use the internet for online gaming. 2) Nope, OSX vs 7 Ultimate, and considering Alienware is made in the US, i'd say it has better build quality than the iMacs built in China. And Dell doesn't put trial software on their products. 3) just look around, it's all over the web. 4) I won't because I can't, the POS broke when I had the money to buy my new rig.
@wilhamlin wow, that's 5 % of total china population. 2) are you actually under the delusion that all parts in an alienware are u.s. made? are you saying that apple puts trial software on their computers? 3) i looked, found nothing close to that, so you are just making shit up, as you go. 4) your rig? thot you said the macbook was your sisters?
@mkfag77 5) #1 rule of research, wikipedia is wrong so don't trust it 6) why do you need it in the first place, it shouldn't be used on any computer 7) most of the time, no you can't. it'll just freeze, you'll get the beachball, and then you're stuck 8) such as?
@wilhamlin 5)ht tp://ww w. zdnet. com/blog/security/internet-explorer-9-haunted-by-critical-security-vulnerabilities/9590 6) as i stated, if your mouse fails. 7) and how is windows' blue screen different? are you magically transported to safe mode?
8)htt p://w ww. smashingapps. com/2009/01/06/21-free-apps-for-mac-os-x-that-are-absolutely-useful. html
@mkfag77 Man, your name says it all. Stop protecting an inferior toy please, you are making yourself look like a greater douchebag than all other macfags combined. Sell your iCrap, buy a decent PC rig from the money you got there, buy an antivirus subscription (or torrent one, whatever), and keep your shit updated. There, I just laid down the basis of using your pc, without BSOD, or viruses for the next 4-5 years to come. You're welcome.
@mkfag77 Sure can. I quite simply ditch that huge ass screen for a smaller one, which is a one time purchase, and there I go. I'm using my VAIO with it's 17" screen to watch Blu-ray movies, and guess what? Enough.
@Termiborger but you havent beaten the imac, just compromised on the pc side. guess what? i am using my g5 mac which wass far cheaper than your vaio and works a thousand times better! Enough.
@mkfag77 Is it now? Out of plain curiosity, what specs do you have in that machine of yours? I doubt that by comparison, I would come out as inferior.
@mkfag77 Well, you got me there, that's a bargain price indeed. But again, that's a desktop computer, not a laptop, thus the pricing is a bit different there. But I too have that 4gb ram, with an i5 core, clocked at 3.0 ghz, a dedicated nvidia GPU, and a full hd 17" screen integrated into the device. By price, yes, you beat me indeed. By usefulness, hardly.
@mkfag77 6)Option-Shift-Command-Delete (not only a retarded combo, but the shortcut shouldn't even exist) 7) if you get the BSOD, then you won't , but afterwards when you run it in safe mode (like one should) then you can find out exactly what happened 8) i used it when I had to use the Macbook, there are plenty of good free programs available for Windows that are far superior to its Apple counterpart
@wilhamlin 6) why would you use that other than your mouse quit working? 7) are you saying we cant find out what went wrong in osx? 8) and there are further free softwares in osx (third party) superior to windows counterparts
@sirrisracing ehh hell you can (im not a mac user) ever considered vi? thats a default program on a mac and yes it is the most powerful text editor ever made, with syntax highlighting, and I should compare it to what? notepad??? here's a comparison vi vs notepad watch?v=yEF-cAMxXgY..
I think osx is capable of making hard links and sym-links, dunno which is default in GUI, but in windows only one kind of shortcut exists. And its not even capable of redirecting a program to the original file.
@mkfag77 That is mostly because Mac decided to move to a new hardware platform... And even with the new chip, running windows on a Mac STILL requires special software. It can't run on the bare metal.
@burlingk pc is not the platform, its the hardware. what is your source for your community assertions? is that why linus torvalds ran his linux on a mac for many years: because "the Linux community tends to get along better with the Windows community than the Mac community."?
@Parunner1 mac runs smoother because of UNIX, not because of mac itself.. The reason macs runs smoother is that UNIX/Linux deals out CPU time in a much better (intelligent) way, no program can take up 100% CPU time in UNIX/Linux, in Windows it is very "legal" for at program to eat 100% of CPU time, resulting in a program a fraction quicker done computing, while all other tasks hangs.. BTW. you might as well have said "all UNIX-like OS runs smoother than Windows", and that's the truth.
@mkfag77 they do, the underlying structure of mac OS is UNIX.. the UNIX kernel in a mac handles everything happening at the mac, mac itself is ONLY responsible for the "pretty" surface and some minor changes in kernel to make is closed source.
From now on I will not try to teach you how your mac PC work, just believe the mac commercials where they tell you that MAGIC happens inside your apple product, not code.. it's magic alright, believe that and it probably makes it easier for you.
@mkfag77 you are contradicting your self, relax it makes you look clever.
"no code" ≠ "some code"
bsd = unix
XNU (mach kernel) is based on 4.3BSD kernel, oh which kernel is BSD utilizing.. hm oh yea thats right, BSD utilizes a unix kernel, I always seem to forget that.
@mkfag77 good for you, next time just remember my point: "all UNIX-like OS runs smoother than Windows".
fyi, bsd descend from real at&t unix, which linux (also unix-like) does not. many people using bsd and linux refer fo bsd as unix and linux as unix-like.. mac persons are usually so stubborn that in their opinion apple made osx and ios all by them self, with help from god. I bet you never use terminal, because mac persons using the terminal actually tends to call mac unix..
Respond to this video... and if you think windows has a more active community youve never seen the percentage of linux users that regularly post on forums
@TonyVictor96 first two, wrong.. Linux has the most hardware support, MS even admitted that. Windows has the largest active comminity, where? Developing for windows is usually closed source, therefore its not a community it's a JOB.. last thing, windows has most games, you're absolutely right about that..
@mkfag77 How am I ignorant? I'm just saying that Windows has CMD and Mac/Linux have Terminal.
You are the one that's ignorant if you buy a Mac, it's a piece of shit in a nice and shiny case. Mac is based on Linux' code and Linux and Windows can do way more then Mac.
@YourComputerExpert what you are ignorant about is the power of the terminal. show me any pc cheaper than the imac and equal on all counts. mac osx has NO linux code within it. for a "computer expert", you sure are wrong a lot. what can linux and windows do that osx cannot?
@mkfag77 1. iMac is very pricey for a piece of shit wrapped in a shiny paper 2. I said: Mac is BASED on Linux' code. 3. I have quite a lot Microsoft Certificates, so yes, I am a computer expert. So how much is your iMac and what's in it? My Acer Desktop was 450euros for : Intel QuadCore i5 Processor (4x 2.8GHz). 6GB DDR3 RAM 1000GB HDD nVidia GeForce 405 with 1GB Video Memory I don't know what fits in the mac because Mac is so ignorant to change all it's hardware so U cant run windows on it.
@YourComputerExpert 1)watch?v=kNT48EvlLjc 2) mac os has nothing to do with, nor is BASED on linux code. mac os uses bsd code, which has nothing to do with linux code. my mac was 300 dollars or 210.615 EUR
dualcore 2.0 ghz processor, 4 gb ram, 350 gb hd . are you saying that macs cannot run the windows os?
@mkfag77 I said for 3 times, Mac's code is BASED<<<<<<<<<<<<<< on Linux' code, I'm not saying it USES Linux' code. Also 300bucks for dualcore 2.0ghz is such a ripoff.
@mkfag77 ((mac is based on UNIX, so is Linux and Solaris)) and to answer your question... go yard-saling (preferably at old peoples houses who had kids who broke their nice computers) salvage parts, build, install linux...be happy... <$100 at most... prolly more like $50... and its easy to get much better than dual 2GHz...
@LongJohnOlsen@fag77 yup written 1969 and rewritten in C 1973, the age of code have nothing to do with reliability. MS DOS is older than linux and DOS suck big time, another example iTunes suck whether it now or yesterday..And YES linux code CERTAINLY have something to do with BSD, know your computer history, linux is based on UNIX (BSD=UNIX)..used my girlfriends mac yesterday, (almost) all my linux commands went right through. BSD is even linux compatible, NOTHIN' in common? one word.. moron
@YourComputerExpert well you are certainly ignorant, let me teach you a thing or two; mac is based on UNIX (BSD UNIX), Linux is based on UNIX, UNIX is linux compatible.. and yes CMD is a piece of CRAP, therefore Windows made PowerShell, but nobody uses it. Do NOT compare CMD to an UNIX-like terminal, that in it self should be a criminal act and forbidden by law worldwide.. anyhow PowerShell is close, but no cigar.. Please revoke this poor boys Microsoft Certificates and give him a popsicle
@TonyVictor96 I think you may want to work on the grammar there. You're telling me that the Mac and Linux users are windows? And that the said windows are correcting me?
pc wins only reasons it gets lots of viruses is because iof geeky hackers who don't know how to go outside outside and beat someone up and steal shit properly
@Kris96431 lol the only other operating system that is commonly associated with the term pc would be linux. Linux can't even begin to compare to either the mac operating systems or the windows operating systems. There is no reason to think that it would even be a factor in the arguments. So the only operating system left under the category of pc is windows. Because the operating system is a factor in the overall rating of how "good" a computer is.
@Mr404servererror nah the plus of pc's is that they're cheaper, you have a lot of manufacter to choose from, and they are easy to manipulate how you like.
@Kris96431 I am not sure you actually read my comment, but I never said anything about a "plus" for pc. I was simply pointing out that when people talk about a pc, they by default are referring to windows. I do agree with your previous statement though.
@Kris96431 linux is good for more than hacking, games run smoother on the smaller operating system with wine, and being productive with linux, well we all know the only use for linux in a work space is on servers, not to mention more pcs are used in the workspace than macs, really and computer is good for entertainment
@Willielikesmonkeys no, I have a laptop running ubuntu 11.04. Not user friendly at all. Ever tried installing java? You would think that they would have figured out how to streamline the process by now. It is not a very powerful operating system, and it has less software available for it then apple has for its macs. True, linux is easier to manipulate, but you end up having to type in lots of code to install even simple programs. I should not have to know c or c++ to run my computer.
@Mr404servererror haha you have my sympathy and thats what forums are for, in the end its just how your used to it, for me i can get all this up and running in an hour, but now you need to learn how to mark a file as an executable or how to use a repository, another thing is that there are many distros that come preinstalled with java AND flash, can i recommend linux mint?
Ok so this is the specs of my dell xps 17 laptop XPS 17 $1679.99 2nd generation Intel Core i7-2720QM processor 2.20 GHz 12GB,DDR3, 4G x 3 Backlit Internal Keyboard - English 17.3in FHD WLED TL (1920x1080) 3D NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB graphics 750GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive Now I tried matching a mac to the same specs 2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB 512GB Solid State Drive $4,049.00 DAMN THATS A PRETTY HEFTY PRICE TAG
@xxxxxxxxxx6666 have to call you out on this, since you added an SSD hard drive (+$1,100) and the extra .1 Ghz on the CPU is a hefty price upgrade too ($250) - their RAM upgrade cost is daft but since RAM is so easy to upgrade yourself from a 3rd party you'd realistically be looking at $2499 for a 17" macbook pro with a more comparable spec to yours, plus 8GB 3rd party ram would probably be still under $2600.. oh crap that's STILL nearly $1000 more lol. So yeah mac tax still sucks.
@mkfag77 Thunderbolt is not supported everywhere, just in a couple of products... And given the specs, PCs are a LOT better than Mac. Macs are just overpriced shit.
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niggabot 1 week ago
296 ppl own a mac
suunto666 3 weeks ago
lol guys y'all did good:-) :-)
STONEYJ100 1 month ago
LOL
gjunki 2 months ago
@xmarcx92: sorry, think you have me confused with yourself.
Guess that's why mac pros have those seats on top with the cute armrests.
oh that's the top of the computer, dang that would be a perfect place for fan boys to put on an iplug.
ANd dude those comments were from like 8hours ago, get a life.
I'm responding simply cause i'm currently bored, and enjoy fanboys moronic responses that have no real purpose.
you so pwned.
refsocrd 2 months ago
@mkfag77: ok smarty pants, on price for a laptop with those specific specs, macs start at: 2500.(and mac book pros come with i7 processors in the 17 inch range, not i5, you must have an old one).
for 2500 in a windows system, I've got twice the system you will ever have.
Heck my rebuilt athlon dual core(3ghz), with 8gb of ram, and twin hard drives at 17" only cost me 400(new it was only 600). and it has a blue ray drive in it. Do that on a mac(hee hee).
I'll get a touch screeen comp for less
refsocrd 2 months ago
@refsocrd What are you still doing on youtube? shouldn't you be having butt sex with your almighty pc?
XmarcX92 2 months ago
@termiborger, dude, the imacs start at 2 grand, for that price i can buy 5 times the windows box.
And sorry the specs are crap, i mean seriously 16gb max memory?
For the price of a maxed out imac(3700), i could build my dream system. multiple blue ray drives(sorry macs don't have those), and multiple sli/crossfire videocards(sorry macs don't have those either).
Guess macs are still great for the price.
NOT!!!
refsocrd 2 months ago 3
@refsocrd and what display will you use that beats the imac's?
mkfag77 2 months ago
@mkfag77 Now do you mean for the 2g system or the 3700?
Frankly it's irrelevant since i don't NEED a high end monitor(and since almost nothing is natively encoded to actually take advantage of the higher resolution, it's kinda irrelevant).
But if you want i'll take the challenge, for 983(new egg), i can get a 27" ips panel.
Now since i don't do intel processors to begin with, i'll just humor you and build a system that has the same specs of a mac, and come under the cost. watch for my next post
refsocrd 2 months ago
@refsocrd the 30 inch model. now i could say i don't NEED your specs, either. many things can use that resolution
mkfag77 2 months ago
@mkfag77 ok so the total for my comparable system was......
drum roll.........
Total:1458.91, with a 27" ips panel. and a 3.1 ghz i5.
Now the specific components.
First i don't own any of these as i only us intel for specific purposes(tablet, server and a laptop, but all bought second hand and really cheap, all three together cost less than 400).
Also, i am not saying this rig will beat a mac performance wise, i just wanted to prove it can be built for a lot less.
I wouldn't put this monitor
refsocrd 2 months ago
@mkfag77 any one i want
SexyCeoArai 3 weeks ago
@SexyCeoArai so you are saying that any display beats an imac's?
mkfag77 3 weeks ago
@refsocrd Apple users don't buy them for the specs...they buy them for the OS or, if they're posers, for the fancy alu case.
DMaggiam 2 weeks ago
@DMaggiam so it's a 3 grand os, on a 700 dollar rig?
yeah that makes sense.
When apples makes competitively priced computers, i'll take another look, till then i'll stick to going for better specs.
An os will only carry a crap spec system so far.
refsocrd1 1 week ago
@refsocrd1 My blind students can use a Mac right out the box, with no assistance. Can a PC do that? Yeah, for an extra grand. Suck it.
DMaggiam 1 week ago
@DMaggiam So right out of the box, Mac is already set up for the blind? Not to mention that there is already software in the OS that caters to the blind. I'm not quite sure why you think that it'll cost $1000 to cater to the blind.
wilhamlin 1 week ago
@wilhamlin Yes, it comes with VoiceOver....Windows requires outside software. You can use NVDA which is free, but for full accessibility with a variety of software, JAWS seems to be the standard with Windows.Add to that it's what most users who are blind are introduced to in their school days, so they end up being most comfortable with it on a PC. 800-1000 bucks for JAWS....plus a few hundred every time you want to update it. Apple makes all of it's devices fully accessible.
DMaggiam 1 day ago
@DMaggiam So, your saying the only option is to go and buy other programs... instead of actually going into the control panel and looking for the settings for said blind? That sounds like a great idea -_-
wilhamlin 1 day ago
@wilhamlin I gave you your two options (there are others...but pretty much the same). NO BLIND PERSON uses the Windows built in stuff...it's garbage. I teach people who are blind how to use screen readers...for 10 years. I've never met one who thinks what microsoft does is adequate. It is not a screen reader in any real sense. Face it, on accessibility Microsoft blows. Apple is better, at least in this area. You should try the "better spec" arguments, you'll go further.
DMaggiam 1 day ago
lollololololololol!
serviceman613 3 months ago
obviously edited on a windows. the quality is shit
waterandtreefilms 3 months ago
i especially love the "resistance is futile" part.. hmm, lets think about it, that phrase "resistance is futile" is like saying "give up, were going to win, we out number you".. and thats what you pc fan boys all have in common.. denial. i mean, you may have been what was popular the past decade or so.. but look at sales numbers mac to pc... Apple is leaving PC in the dust.. Facts and figures don't lie fellas... have fun building you bulky metal boxes.. i much prefer smaller aluminum toys :)
jasonwhitton 3 months ago
@jasonwhitton i dont think you can call taht denial, there are more pcs because of its ability to be customized, which means much more varying kinds of computers. i am not dissing mac, they are simple and easy to use, yet for those people who wants to make their own computer, a "personal computer", PC would be best for them, not mac.
VGMoney 3 months ago
screw pc
uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
@uchihasasuke7863 PC is the ancestor of modern computers so fuck off.
mentalone1995 3 months ago
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uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
@uchihasasuke7863 Whats wrong? Did you write something wrong?
No, you're just an idiot. If you want to go down the path of ancient "computers" then you are wrong anyway, in 1623 Wilhelm Schickard developed the first mechanical calculator. That must be the TRUE ancestor of the computer! :S
You're a fucking dumbshit to compare a electronic computer (aka. PC) to a mechanical calculator (aka Z1), read my comment before making idiotic remarks in relation to the modern computers of today.
mentalone1995 3 months ago
@mentalone1995 if thats the way you want to play then ok but you started this argument with me an if you want to play that way then lets go back to binary codes found thousands of years ago and dont try to out swear me ya auzzie pirk im scottish and if u hate mac then ur jealous because you cant afford one so go fuck a kangaroo
uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
@uchihasasuke7863 I have a Mac, I use it for editing at school. It's much better than PC for movies, photos and other stuff. But I use PC more because its more adaptive.
Oh wow you're Scottish like I care. Considering your country is so close to England, one would think you'd know how to spell. I have no idea what a 'pirk' is! I guess you mean prick you dumbshit.
It was never an argument, I told you the truth and you retaliated.
I'm actually suprised you know what a kangaroo is...
mentalone1995 3 months ago
@mentalone1995 listen dude im really srry bout this my lil bro has been using my mac because his pc is broke iv been studying for college he has had 3 pc's i guess thats why he hates them im not a pc fan but they're ok and in scotland for quickness we say prik but yeah its prick and the scots hate the english btw
uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
@uchihasasuke7863 I feel somewhat inclined to believe you but I don't understand why you would let your little brother use your computer. If it really is your lil' bro tell him to get off the internet if he just picks fights.
mentalone1995 3 months ago
@mentalone1995 i let him use my computer because his aint workin but next time il remember to log out of all my stuff but he loves arguing
uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
if it wasn't for the Z1 originally created by Germany's Konrad Zuse in 1936 ther wood be no computer so you fuck off and go learn something
uchihasasuke7863 3 months ago
Ubuntu works well for me. It's secure, easy to use, does everything I want and cost me nothing. Resistance isn't futile.
SteveTheHorrible 3 months ago 2
This video, is god to me.
xXFlameCobraXx 3 months ago
@xXFlameCobraXx Like, non-existent?
retrogamerist 3 months ago
it does not have many games. it costs twice as much. you can't edit html in any of it's default programs. click and drag from cd's just creates shortcuts. Internet Explorer owns Safari. Microsoft word> open office . The shortcuts are confusing. windows lets you know when it fails. windows has updates that include FREE software.
sirrisracing 5 months ago
@sirrisracing 1.use bootcamp for games that arent released on mac 2. who cares? 3. what? 4. Internet explorer is the worst browser ever, but you can download it for mac, i prefer chrome though. 5. you do realize there are versions of office for mac right? 6. macs COME WITH software, some of it you can't even get an equivilant program for windows, and updates are always free on macs, and pretty much everything else too. (consoles and stiff)
also macs dont get viruses and rarely crash.
andj2009 5 months ago
@andj2009 1. Correct. Or Parallels, if you're lazy. 2. Macs have higher initial cost but lower TCO (look it up). 4. IE = biggest fail ever. 5. iWork and iLife > Office. 6. Correct. For example, Mac comes with Safari but you can uninstall it. Windows = IE cant be uninstalled. And yeah, Mac doesn't come with shitty trial programs.
Rarely crash, yes. Invulnerable to viruses, no. However, they are far less prone to getting them. can't get one from surfing the web alone. Must download infected file.
schm147 4 months ago
@schm147 I built my PC, I didn't install shitty trial software, I installed Firefox right away and haven't seen internet explorer in several months, My initial cost is less than a third of what a "comparable" mac's is (there isn't a mac on the market with as much power), so even if I end up replacing EVERY part in my computer TWICE I will still break even. Even if Mac's can't get a virus by just surfing the web, they are easier to hack, thus more susceptible.
1wdc 3 months ago
@1wdc Macs are easier to hack, hahahaha....whatever you say dude.
schm147 3 months ago
@schm147
He's actually 100% correct. Pwn2Own stats for the past 4 years show every Apple device falling first with little to no trouble. Experts agree that Apple's security is practically non-existent, and have warned Apple outright that as market share grows, so too will exploitation and issues with malware (which is three times as easy to write for a Mac) and hack attacks (which do not require ROOT access). The obscurity of market share is Apple's sole source of protection at this time.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@schm147 Pwn 2 Own, google it.
Mac Book Air was seized in 2 minutes flat:
"As you're well aware by now, the MacBook Air on display was seized in two minutes by the presumably well prepared Charlie Miller, and after two full days of work, Shane Macaulay and a few of his 1337 associates managed to crack the Vista rig on Friday"
2 minutes vs 2 days.
1wdc 3 months ago
@schm147
you might also want to know that browser exploits showed Interner Explorer with 3 vulnerabilities, and Apple's Safari with a shocking 60. That's a 57-exploit difference. In other words, please.....research first. Your own worst enemy is yourself when you're buying from a tech company and relying on their biased sources for information. 3/4 of Apple's testimony is incorrect. The other 1/4 is fudged.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven lol dude....I wouldnt use IE now matter how secure it is. it sucks.
schm147 3 months ago
@schm147
I wholeheartedly agree :) But facts are facts.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@MaestroDraven List your source.
schm147 3 months ago
@schm147
I told you. Google "Pwn2Own." Any one of them. I can't post links here and I really hate having to put spaces in between stuff to fool YouTube. Better yet, Google "Pwn2Own Mac" or "Pwn2Own Apple" and watch the information pour in.
MaestroDraven 3 months ago
@sirrisracing games are for neanderthals. show me a pc half as much as 30 inch imac, xcode, have you been watching hunter cressal again about shortcuts on the desktop? how is ie better than safari? what shortcuts are confusing? windows fails a lot? free shitty software=not impressed
mkfag77 4 months ago
@mkfag77 1. 69% of the worlds population play games 2.there is no 30" iMac, i could do the 27 if you like 3. xCode sucks... a lot 4. Apples drag and drop does only create shortcuts, copy paste isn't a huge deal but it's more convenient 5. IE has 3 vulnerabilities whereas Safari has 60 6. there are plenty that don't make sense 7. it doesn't fail alot, but it tells you whats wrong 8. that's all iLife is, free shitty software.
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin 1) are you actually saying that solitaire players 2) sorry, meant 27 inch, their biggest, nonetheless. go for it 3) your proof? 4) your proof or source because mine doesn't 5 source? 6) some examples please. 7) not in windows 8) spoken like someone who hasnt USED ilife
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 1) no, that number is is anyone who owns at least one console. 2) Alienware with an i7 @ 3.9 GHz and comparable GPU $1629 Vs. Apple- i7 clocked at 3.4 $2,499, everything else is the same 3) creating the same program on xCode and any other programing tool takes twice as long on average with xCode 4) I've spent the last 8 months using snow leopard on my sisters old Macbook 5) searc for Pwn2Own safari, you'll find it
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin 69%of all the people in the world own a console? how many people in china have them? india? etc. 2)same operating system? same software? same build quality? 3) your proof? otherwise i can say that it takes 345566 times longer in windows. 4) please make a vid of that (you won't) 5) this shows far more for ie ht tp://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 about 66 million in China play online (there's no telling how many offline) about 41% of India's population use the internet for online gaming. 2) Nope, OSX vs 7 Ultimate, and considering Alienware is made in the US, i'd say it has better build quality than the iMacs built in China. And Dell doesn't put trial software on their products. 3) just look around, it's all over the web. 4) I won't because I can't, the POS broke when I had the money to buy my new rig.
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin wow, that's 5 % of total china population. 2) are you actually under the delusion that all parts in an alienware are u.s. made? are you saying that apple puts trial software on their computers? 3) i looked, found nothing close to that, so you are just making shit up, as you go. 4) your rig? thot you said the macbook was your sisters?
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 5) #1 rule of research, wikipedia is wrong so don't trust it 6) why do you need it in the first place, it shouldn't be used on any computer 7) most of the time, no you can't. it'll just freeze, you'll get the beachball, and then you're stuck 8) such as?
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin 5)ht tp://ww w. zdnet. com/blog/security/internet-explorer-9-haunted-by-critical-security-vulnerabilities/9590 6) as i stated, if your mouse fails. 7) and how is windows' blue screen different? are you magically transported to safe mode?
8)htt p://w ww. smashingapps. com/2009/01/06/21-free-apps-for-mac-os-x-that-are-absolutely-useful. html
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 Man, your name says it all. Stop protecting an inferior toy please, you are making yourself look like a greater douchebag than all other macfags combined. Sell your iCrap, buy a decent PC rig from the money you got there, buy an antivirus subscription (or torrent one, whatever), and keep your shit updated. There, I just laid down the basis of using your pc, without BSOD, or viruses for the next 4-5 years to come. You're welcome.
Termiborger 3 months ago
@Termiborger inferior? in what way(s)? can you find a cheaper, equal pc alternative to the 27 inch imac?
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 Sure can. I quite simply ditch that huge ass screen for a smaller one, which is a one time purchase, and there I go. I'm using my VAIO with it's 17" screen to watch Blu-ray movies, and guess what? Enough.
Termiborger 3 months ago
@Termiborger but you havent beaten the imac, just compromised on the pc side. guess what? i am using my g5 mac which wass far cheaper than your vaio and works a thousand times better! Enough.
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 Is it now? Out of plain curiosity, what specs do you have in that machine of yours? I doubt that by comparison, I would come out as inferior.
Termiborger 3 months ago
@Termiborger dual core 2.0 ghz with 4 gb ram for 300 dollars
mkfag77 3 months ago
@mkfag77 Well, you got me there, that's a bargain price indeed. But again, that's a desktop computer, not a laptop, thus the pricing is a bit different there. But I too have that 4gb ram, with an i5 core, clocked at 3.0 ghz, a dedicated nvidia GPU, and a full hd 17" screen integrated into the device. By price, yes, you beat me indeed. By usefulness, hardly.
Termiborger 3 months ago
@Termiborger i run osx natively, you are severely hampered with any other os
mkfag77 2 months ago
@mkfag77 6)Option-Shift-Command-Delete (not only a retarded combo, but the shortcut shouldn't even exist) 7) if you get the BSOD, then you won't , but afterwards when you run it in safe mode (like one should) then you can find out exactly what happened 8) i used it when I had to use the Macbook, there are plenty of good free programs available for Windows that are far superior to its Apple counterpart
wilhamlin 3 months ago
@wilhamlin 6) why would you use that other than your mouse quit working? 7) are you saying we cant find out what went wrong in osx? 8) and there are further free softwares in osx (third party) superior to windows counterparts
mkfag77 3 months ago
@sirrisracing ehh hell you can (im not a mac user) ever considered vi? thats a default program on a mac and yes it is the most powerful text editor ever made, with syntax highlighting, and I should compare it to what? notepad??? here's a comparison vi vs notepad watch?v=yEF-cAMxXgY..
I think osx is capable of making hard links and sym-links, dunno which is default in GUI, but in windows only one kind of shortcut exists. And its not even capable of redirecting a program to the original file.
LongJohnOlsen 4 months ago
Pcs UNITE!!!
monkeyfire5 5 months ago
Here you see: WINDOWS could crush Apple if it wants to!
0765109181 5 months ago
@0765109181 here you see, ignorant pc fanboys
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 here you see some idiot who bought a mac for it's inferior operating system.
sirrisracing 5 months ago
@sirrisracing and in what ways is osx inferior?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 Why you gota hate on the pc man ????????
PownSquad 5 months ago
@PownSquad because they suck?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 And why do they suck??
PownSquad 5 months ago
@PownSquad their primary os is microsoft windows
mkfag77 4 months ago
@mkfag77 whats wrong with windows?
PownSquad 4 months ago
@PownSquad inefficient, buggy when compared to others
mkfag77 4 months ago
@mkfag77 really i did not notice them being buggy and making you mad unless you have anger issues?Do you have such issues??
PownSquad 4 months ago
@PownSquad nope, but in retrospect, now that i've used other operating systems, maybe i SHOULD have!
mkfag77 4 months ago
Resistance is futile. Lol. Deus ex kinda moment :P
groenewilde 5 months ago
@groenewilde or STAR TREK
borgtrek7 5 months ago
NOOO fuck u impersinators
YummyBear37 5 months ago
Technically PC is the platform, and not the OS. So, Most Linux and Unix variants are very much PC oriented. :P
And to a strong degree, the Linux community tends to get along better with the Windows community than the Mac community.
burlingk 5 months ago
@burlingk is that why windows runs on macs?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 That is mostly because Mac decided to move to a new hardware platform... And even with the new chip, running windows on a Mac STILL requires special software. It can't run on the bare metal.
That is why you have to have bootcamp or similar.
burlingk 5 months ago
@burlingk pc is not the platform, its the hardware. what is your source for your community assertions? is that why linus torvalds ran his linux on a mac for many years: because "the Linux community tends to get along better with the Windows community than the Mac community."?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@burlingk so does windows get along with mac or not?
mkfag77 5 months ago
U can run windows on mac put u cant run mac on windows
14midaiganes 5 months ago
@14midaiganes Yes you can, VirtualBox.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
fuck mac and pc go ubuntu linux!!!! open-source at its finest.
AnarkoNinja 5 months ago
@AnarkoNinja Agreed!
Top 3 OS'es for Business and Normal Users
1. Linux
2. Windows
3. Mac
Top 3 OS'es for Gaming
1. Windows
2. Mac/Linux (Mac Supports more games, but Linux doesn't need so much Graphical Memory so games run smoother).
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert
One word.... wine. :)
AnarkoNinja 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert Windows supports more games but mac runs smoother.
Parunner1 5 months ago
@Parunner1 How do you even get this fake info? Did you ever fucking try a Windows PC?
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert have you SEEN how many games there are for windows compared to mac? Windows has 10 times more games
Parunner1 5 months ago
@Parunner1 I ment the mac runs smoother part, the mac sucks and doesn't run smoother.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@Parunner1 mac runs smoother because of UNIX, not because of mac itself.. The reason macs runs smoother is that UNIX/Linux deals out CPU time in a much better (intelligent) way, no program can take up 100% CPU time in UNIX/Linux, in Windows it is very "legal" for at program to eat 100% of CPU time, resulting in a program a fraction quicker done computing, while all other tasks hangs.. BTW. you might as well have said "all UNIX-like OS runs smoother than Windows", and that's the truth.
LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen you make it sound like macs utilize unix or a unix/linux hybrid
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 they do, the underlying structure of mac OS is UNIX.. the UNIX kernel in a mac handles everything happening at the mac, mac itself is ONLY responsible for the "pretty" surface and some minor changes in kernel to make is closed source.
From now on I will not try to teach you how your mac PC work, just believe the mac commercials where they tell you that MAGIC happens inside your apple product, not code.. it's magic alright, believe that and it probably makes it easier for you.
LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen mac osx has no code from the unix operating system. your sarcasm is moot when all of your previous information is wrong
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 osx has no code at all, it's all magic..
LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen osx utilizes some code fro some bsds, not unix as you seem to think. you were wrong...
mkfag77 4 months ago
@mkfag77 you are contradicting your self, relax it makes you look clever.
"no code" ≠ "some code"
bsd = unix
XNU (mach kernel) is based on 4.3BSD kernel, oh which kernel is BSD utilizing.. hm oh yea thats right, BSD utilizes a unix kernel, I always seem to forget that.
LongJohnOlsen 4 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen bsd is also unix-like, does not use a unix kernel, at all. look up "unix-like" and then perhaps you will realize the difference
mkfag77 4 months ago
@mkfag77 good for you, next time just remember my point: "all UNIX-like OS runs smoother than Windows".
fyi, bsd descend from real at&t unix, which linux (also unix-like) does not. many people using bsd and linux refer fo bsd as unix and linux as unix-like.. mac persons are usually so stubborn that in their opinion apple made osx and ios all by them self, with help from god. I bet you never use terminal, because mac persons using the terminal actually tends to call mac unix..
LongJohnOlsen 4 months ago
i don't like the mafia, thats why i have mac
volcompany 5 months ago 2
hahah
u cant change hardware on a mac
mac is much more expensive
pc has more programs and games
pc is more popular
unlike mac u can access registry on a pc
pc ftw
TonyVictor96 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 linux supports all architecture
its free
wine lets us play almost all your games
we have a more active community
you can access EVERYTHING on linux
foss wins
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
@Willielikesmonkeys windows supports more hardware windows has a more active community windows has more games
TonyVictor96 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 linux supports both new and old hardware windows draws the line at fairly demanding resources
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
Respond to this video... and if you think windows has a more active community youve never seen the percentage of linux users that regularly post on forums
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
@Willielikesmonkeys look for yourself
TonyVictor96 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 first two, wrong.. Linux has the most hardware support, MS even admitted that. Windows has the largest active comminity, where? Developing for windows is usually closed source, therefore its not a community it's a JOB.. last thing, windows has most games, you're absolutely right about that..
LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 watch?v=kNT48EvlLjc
and where is windows' terminal?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 It's called CMD (Command Prompt) on Windows sucker.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert have you ever used terminal? do you think you have as much power and control with cmd?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 Yes, you can control the whole computer with it with over 1000commands.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert lol, we can do way more than that with terminal
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 You can more then control your PC with terminal? Woow! You must be Chuck Norris!!
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert yes, linux uses this same control. you must be ignorant
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 How am I ignorant? I'm just saying that Windows has CMD and Mac/Linux have Terminal.
You are the one that's ignorant if you buy a Mac, it's a piece of shit in a nice and shiny case. Mac is based on Linux' code and Linux and Windows can do way more then Mac.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert what you are ignorant about is the power of the terminal. show me any pc cheaper than the imac and equal on all counts. mac osx has NO linux code within it. for a "computer expert", you sure are wrong a lot. what can linux and windows do that osx cannot?
mkfag77 5 months ago
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert 1)watch?v=kNT48EvlLjc 2) mac os has nothing to do with, nor is BASED on linux code. mac os uses bsd code, which has nothing to do with linux code. my mac was 300 dollars or 210.615 EUR
dualcore 2.0 ghz processor, 4 gb ram, 350 gb hd . are you saying that macs cannot run the windows os?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 I said for 3 times, Mac's code is BASED<<<<<<<<<<<<<< on Linux' code, I'm not saying it USES Linux' code. Also 300bucks for dualcore 2.0ghz is such a ripoff.
YourComputerExpert 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert the code that osx is based on was written BEFORE linux existed. can you point me to a more reliable machine for that price?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 ((mac is based on UNIX, so is Linux and Solaris)) and to answer your question... go yard-saling (preferably at old peoples houses who had kids who broke their nice computers) salvage parts, build, install linux...be happy... <$100 at most... prolly more like $50... and its easy to get much better than dual 2GHz...
AnarkoNinja 5 months ago
@AnarkoNinja and what if i am just like 99% of all consumers and DON'T want to build my own computer?
mkfag77 5 months ago
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LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen his original post follows
mkfag77 5 months ago
@LongJohnOlsen @fag77 yup written 1969 and rewritten in C 1973, the age of code have nothing to do with reliability. MS DOS is older than linux and DOS suck big time, another example iTunes suck whether it now or yesterday..And YES linux code CERTAINLY have something to do with BSD, know your computer history, linux is based on UNIX (BSD=UNIX)..used my girlfriends mac yesterday, (almost) all my linux commands went right through. BSD is even linux compatible, NOTHIN' in common? one word.. moron
mkfag77 5 months ago
@YourComputerExpert well you are certainly ignorant, let me teach you a thing or two; mac is based on UNIX (BSD UNIX), Linux is based on UNIX, UNIX is linux compatible.. and yes CMD is a piece of CRAP, therefore Windows made PowerShell, but nobody uses it. Do NOT compare CMD to an UNIX-like terminal, that in it self should be a criminal act and forbidden by law worldwide.. anyhow PowerShell is close, but no cigar.. Please revoke this poor boys Microsoft Certificates and give him a popsicle
LongJohnOlsen 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 OS X is fast anyway, you don't need to upgrade other hardware than RAM and possibly the harddrive.
Mac is more expensive but you get what you pay for.
Long story short: Some people likes Windows, some like Mac. And there's a minority of people who run Linux.
Some people like iPhone, some like Android and some use Blackberry. Some choose Nikon, some choose Canon, and some use Sony cameras.
Free choice, don't bash on others for their.
Rubr1k 5 months ago
@Rubr1k minority who use mac and linux majority are windows just correcting u
TonyVictor96 5 months ago
@TonyVictor96 I think you may want to work on the grammar there. You're telling me that the Mac and Linux users are windows? And that the said windows are correcting me?
Rubr1k 5 months ago
@Rubr1k nna i meant that the minority are Mac and Linux. Majority is Windows
TonyVictor96 5 months ago
pc wins only reasons it gets lots of viruses is because iof geeky hackers who don't know how to go outside outside and beat someone up and steal shit properly
crazyhorseslap 6 months ago
@crazyhorseslap you've never really run osx, have you?
mkfag77 6 months ago
i love how people even think that windows is good....
BeastZidane 6 months ago
@BeastZidane we're talking about pc's, not windows...
Kris96431 6 months ago
@Kris96431 lol the only other operating system that is commonly associated with the term pc would be linux. Linux can't even begin to compare to either the mac operating systems or the windows operating systems. There is no reason to think that it would even be a factor in the arguments. So the only operating system left under the category of pc is windows. Because the operating system is a factor in the overall rating of how "good" a computer is.
Mr404servererror 6 months ago
@Mr404servererror nah the plus of pc's is that they're cheaper, you have a lot of manufacter to choose from, and they are easy to manipulate how you like.
Kris96431 6 months ago
@Kris96431 I am not sure you actually read my comment, but I never said anything about a "plus" for pc. I was simply pointing out that when people talk about a pc, they by default are referring to windows. I do agree with your previous statement though.
Mr404servererror 6 months ago
@Mr404servererror ok... but people should stop referring to pc's as for windows but as the piece of hardware they are
Kris96431 6 months ago
@Kris96431 linux is easier to manipulate and at least with a mac the tech support speaks the same first language
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
@Willielikesmonkeys dude, that's the rule:
windows -> entertainment
linux -> hacking
mac -> working
Kris96431 5 months ago
@Kris96431 linux is good for more than hacking, games run smoother on the smaller operating system with wine, and being productive with linux, well we all know the only use for linux in a work space is on servers, not to mention more pcs are used in the workspace than macs, really and computer is good for entertainment
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
@Willielikesmonkeys ok so we settled up that pc's are better
Kris96431 5 months ago
@Kris96431 Not really... More like this Mr. Fruitboy
Windows -> Does everything.
Linux -> Does everything for free but lacks some polish, hence it is FREE
Mac -> Good idiot barometer. Looks flashy and aids the insecure.
audidiablo 5 months ago
@audidiablo how many macs do you own? just want to know the source of your information
mkfag77 5 months ago
@audidiablo i am mr. fruitboy?
Kris96431 5 months ago
@Mr404servererror youve never run linux have you? if you did that was a LONG time ago
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
@Willielikesmonkeys no, I have a laptop running ubuntu 11.04. Not user friendly at all. Ever tried installing java? You would think that they would have figured out how to streamline the process by now. It is not a very powerful operating system, and it has less software available for it then apple has for its macs. True, linux is easier to manipulate, but you end up having to type in lots of code to install even simple programs. I should not have to know c or c++ to run my computer.
Mr404servererror 5 months ago
@Mr404servererror haha you have my sympathy and thats what forums are for, in the end its just how your used to it, for me i can get all this up and running in an hour, but now you need to learn how to mark a file as an executable or how to use a repository, another thing is that there are many distros that come preinstalled with java AND flash, can i recommend linux mint?
Willielikesmonkeys 5 months ago
PC FTW
bodygloveman 6 months ago
@bodygloveman PC FTL
mkfag77 6 months ago
Steve Kardynal uses Mac.
The29ersailor 6 months ago
right, macs can be pretty expensive but their softwares and applications are way cheaper!
in the end, that's what we need!
rustedhero888 6 months ago
@rustedhero888 What software?
smokingm0nkeys 6 months ago
@rustedhero888 lol
LCxCZ 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Why do you even bother to argue with someone who named HIMSELF "McFag"? X3
oOkaabiiOo 6 months ago
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oOkaabiiOo 6 months ago
xxxxxxxxxx6666 6 months ago 15
@xxxxxxxxxx6666 have to call you out on this, since you added an SSD hard drive (+$1,100) and the extra .1 Ghz on the CPU is a hefty price upgrade too ($250) - their RAM upgrade cost is daft but since RAM is so easy to upgrade yourself from a 3rd party you'd realistically be looking at $2499 for a 17" macbook pro with a more comparable spec to yours, plus 8GB 3rd party ram would probably be still under $2600.. oh crap that's STILL nearly $1000 more lol. So yeah mac tax still sucks.
sonicwingnut 6 months ago
@xxxxxxxxxx6666 is your dell a sold state drive? do you have thunderbolt?
mkfag77 6 months ago 6
@mkfag77 Thunderbolt is not supported everywhere, just in a couple of products... And given the specs, PCs are a LOT better than Mac. Macs are just overpriced shit.
SaurabhJain666 5 months ago
@SaurabhJain666 wrong again:watch?v=kNT48EvlLjc
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77
You can get solid state if wanted :)
No one gives a shit about Thunderbolt... It is not a standard like USB is and it is an Intel product not a Apple product so yes we can on a PC.
NT
audidiablo 5 months ago
@audidiablo i don't car whether its a standard, yet. there was a time when esata was not the standard that it is now. is it insignificant?
mkfag77 5 months ago
@mkfag77 Do you pay 3000USD for thous 2?