I'm fat not that fat, not proud of it neither. I also DON'T do drugs, drink or smoke cigs, i am more healthy then people that do smoke/drink/do drugs.That's all i gotta say on that note.
Everyone knows that obesity is caused by shoemaker gnomes because when you snore they blow saturated fat powder into your mouth and make you overweight. :P (NO ONE is going to get this joke unless you...nevermind...>.>)
now look here. im an overweight teen, but I. AM. NOT. A FATASS. when i was in middle school, walking to school took an hour. and then i had to walk back, as well. my cousin is PENCIL- THIN. and it made her tired to walk to my house. WHICH ONLY TOOK 10 FUCKING MINUTES!! and she had a 40 ounce moster with her! and she's 14!! oh, but SHE'S not a fatass. because she's skinny. basically, im saying that looks can be decieving.
I don't see him complaining about the armed forces. Even if they meet physical fitness standards but are overweight they get a warning and if it happens again they get fired.
It does save money. They are getting FREE healthcare. Obesity comes with a lot of baggage, including heart disease, diabetes, etc. That really adds up over the years to the company. It isn't that hard to stay in shape. Instead of sitting and watching tv, get a treadmill and run on it while watching. Instead of going to McDonald's drive over to the deli and get a sandwich on wheat bread, or bring lunch from home. Drink more water.
@TastyPlainPizza keep in mind girls when they are BORN have 10 to 15% more body fat than men. when puberty hits, hormones in females ENCOURAGE and CREATE fat whereas the hormones in males increases muscle and decreases fat.
This makes perfect sense. They are STATE workers getting FREE healthcare off tax payer money. The whole thing about genetics is bullshit, just an excuse for people to fall back and feel better about their disability.
Fat people are a drag to society. THe majority (not all) are usually uneducated trash. When I was boxing I would fluctuate 30-40 lbs on demand depending on what weight I had to fight at. The formula was easy: several hours of hard work at the gym and seriously watching my caloric intake. Fat ppl tend to be lazy and just cant get themselves to do the 2 hr treadmill run 4 times a week it takes to get the job done. Fact.
@djrojas Some people are fat due to illness, such as PCOS. Not only do people with PCOS have a hard time getting pregnant, or may not be able to have children at all, they have assholes like you constantly berating them.
Since when did it become a crime to be fat? I mean Jesus, this is just discrimination 101. You might as well discriminate against people that are too skinny. too muscular. Too many tattoos/piercings? What? those don't threaten one's health? okay, what about elective cosmetic surgeries? Should those people pay more money, should the 40 year old with sagging tits that got D cups pay $25 because she MAY drop dead from complications just as the fat man MAY drop dead from a heart attack?
In the vast majority of cases, there's no excuse for being overweight. All it takes is eating less and exercising more folks. It's not rocket science.
I have an idea. Instead of financiate them lets: KILL all fat people. Then lets kill all people with deficiencies Then lets kill all people with glasses Then lets kill all people with pimples Then lets kill all people that are brunetes Then lets kill all people that are gay Then lets kill all people with large ears Then lets kill all people who speak different Then lets kill all.... Yeah, thought so -.-''
For the fat fucking disgusting people who dont have genetic problems, I'm so glad that this is happening, you fat motherfuckers are greedy assholes who don't care about anybody but your fucking eating habits. I went to the supermarket yesterday I was going to grab some pizza rolls out of the freezer section, I walked casually, and outta no where some fat prick goes by me and opens the door and takes every fucking box of it! I wanted to enjoy a nice snack, now some fat fuck ruined it >:[ ughhh!
@xytsdx2 I wish I had a comment but I don't... People who just overeat and are fat cause of that... yeah those i can't stand if they whine. Happily enough I don't have this problem in portugal, I'm fat but due to genetics and a leg operation that had me in bed for 3 years. I wouldn't financiate these people but I'd financiate people who really can't help it. That eat normal but still gain weight (like me) and just couldn't financiate fisiotherapy or gym... You'd need a trial first.
@BlackShad0wCat addiction is just an excuse, people can help themselves, they gotta learn to get off the damn foods & stop worrying about themselves only. If people don't want to be laughed @ & they cry, they put themselves into that situation, and hate to hear em complain. But if you genetically are big then I have no problem with that, just don't be like the normal ones that eat A LOT because no matter what, you will be laughed at dude, tough world out there man.
@xytsdx2 I meant they can't help as in: depression (yes its a disease in my eyes), genetics or some sort of other anomaly. Those who are fine and still eat tons? I mean I'm a big girl I sometimes eat more then I should (hmmmmmm.... chicken salad with avocado and vinaigrete) but I'm not into the whole fast food stuff. How could I? Shit is disgustingly icky! But depression leads into a vicious cycle. I've been there, and sometime even food seemed the solution. Went into darker roads though XD
@BlackShad0wCat Well, IMO im not sure why eating helps anything, it just slaps on more pounds. Plus I eat fast food on average once every week and I am still healthy and thin. By the way "you can eat what ever you want, whenever you want" is a big no no, that attitude most likely results eating shit loads of junk. My tips for regular fat people is do cardio for 30 minutes 5 times a week.
People can even do low-intensity cardio like walking only and still see results. It's not rocket-science yo!
@xytsdx2 Sadly most food items have addicting contents: EG: sugar in chocolate (or in general) stimulates a certain part of your brain that not only is it conected to pleasure it's also conected to addiction. Chips usually have a chinese ingredient (which I do not know the name of) that actually stimulates your addiction center which will make you not be able to stop eating. The work out thing: even good for those who are NOT FAT! Blood pressure anyone? Mine f.e: is excelent.Still hate fast food
BlackShad0wCat I eat a crap load of things with sugar in it almost. Just not long ago, I ate peanut butter sqaures with caramel topping & I am no addicted to it, it tastes good but I actually am nice and share it with my family, because they want a taste too. I have a greedy fat friend that can eat the whole thing while on a camping trip and not leave any for anyone & he didnt buy it!!! That's what is really upsetting, they got to stop thinking of themselves only, why I punched him in the face.
@xytsdx2 Well I can't really speak for those kinda people cause to be honest, I've always shared and tend to like sharing more then having it to myself. But at least here, and those that I know of have eating disorders because it makes them happy: Sugar is a drug in a way. Not sharing or being greedy is one thing, buying chocolate for yourself when down is something else. Sadly sugar may lead to a devils circle. You eat, you gain weight, you get depressed you eat etc. hmmm caramell ;)
@AeonBlue07 I wanna nuke bomb you... And your family... and your friends. You are lower then life, lower then animal, you are nothing, dirt. The funny thing is: You can't even think of a rational comment, NONE OF YOU CAN! Alll I see is hate, racism, people that are haters of difference...
Guys you need ta change, you are all gonna die younger then necessary, hate does that to ya ;)
@AeonBlue07 Cows are nice ya know. If they're that disgusting PLEASE: do not eat beef, meat, cheese, yoghurt oh and milk obviously. If you hate fat people so much please do not use/eat/wear what they did for you: oh turn into a nacionalsocialist while you're at it ;)
Apart from that. I'm big... but not american... does that tell you something? Seems the "MOO COW fattys" are only in america. THAT'S YOUR OWN FAULT U IDIOTS!
@AeonBlue07 I'll laugh when you die due to lack of the vitamin B-12. I hope I'm around to see you deteriorate. OH! DOn't take the pills either... they're made of... cows... ironically enough. Have nice, unhealthy, life, while I'll be having fun in the sun and being... healthy! XD Cuddles to your failure
Also... you don't have to be a VEGAN BITCH to loose weight, I've got a friend who's triple my size... and is vegan... hmmmm conundrum much?
This is wrong, since not all obesity is self-inflicted. Thin most of my life, after being hit by a car WHILE RUNNING, I gained a LARGE amount of weight due to medication, injury itself, MASSIVE hypothyroidism, and several other factors. It took SEVERAL YEARS for all the reasons to be found and addressed (including surgery, without which I would have died, and that very problem was, I learned a MAJOR factor in my gain and maintenance at such a high weight) I became thin again-size 0-4 & 5'7".
@sirbestnameever *laughs at you uncontrollably* Your digestive system is faster, mine is slower, your body doesn't accumulate proteins, mine does. But you know what? I hope nuclear winter arives, you all die. And us fat people? We'll be chilling, you know, away from you people while you die slowly and we'll be playing cards, reproducing, next generation and all. Isn't that a bummer? Don't forget, we accumulate fat as survival instincts. Some more then others. Sucks that you can't.
@BlackShad0wCat In a nucler winter (which I'm pretty sure you got from futurama) You would also die infacked youd be the first to go since your weaker and bigger you wont be able to get away from canibals.
Your boady isnt able to process all that food so cut down your fast food by getting the child size trough
@sirbestnameever I live in portugal. I'm sure nuclear winter won't hit me as hard as America will since we keep our noses relatively clean. SO Yeah I'd prolly die infected (spell check pl0x?) if we didn't find an alternative. And no I wouldn't die first since I'm pretty sure I can fight canibals off... I lift 120 kilos just with my legs.. I go to a gym, believe it or not, bigger does not mean weaker. I may not run (operation) but I pack a punch. I hate fast food. Makes me nauseous ;)
@BlackShad0wCat well your not realy fat then are you. Your just big. I'm not American I'm English and I go to Portugal 2 every years and there not as fat as Americans.
@sirbestnameever Well I guess the american standards of fat and the portuguese ones differ... extremely much, from each other: In portugal I'm fat, but I've been told I'm just big in america XD It's amazing how the ocean changes views. The problem I think lies in capitalism hun, we have 3 brands of chocolate... you have 34... brands, lets not mention the flavours. Cut down on that! Things should be fine after XD
@sirbestnameever I think a local chocolate brand... That made typical portuguese chocolate. Does Mars count? Or are they also nestle? I don't know, I don't eat chocolate usually. I can tell you though which one sells the most in my university: Twix, it's some kind of fashion going on at the moment :S But I know america has tons more. I tried counting.... i gave up at like 12 or 13.
@BlackShad0wCat all the good chocolate is Cadburys with was orgianly english, Nestle is American its kinda eggs milky bars and that brown rabbits milk shake. mars is cadburys so twix gallazy milky ways ect. I think uve mixed up brand with type, sonys a brand of electircal stuff there 3D TV isnt
@sirbestnameever Well, doesn't that show how much I know about chocolate. :S And brown rabbits milk shake? You lost me at brown :S But possibly, though I know for a fact we have at least 1 brand here which is Regina, it's local XD and america has tons of more brand then anyone in europe does, not to mention the brands. Still you can't deny that capitalism, the child of america, is possibly faulty for all the overweight, obese, morbid people?
i believe all people who are overweight should get penalize because they are all stupid and all they do is gain weight and loose weight and i just cant figure out why all i hear people gossiping about is how they lost 10 pounds its because fat people are disgusting thats the only conclusion.
If you give fat people money for "getting healthy", won't they just spend it on food and get fat again? And why should they get rewarded for being fat in the first place? If my company gave money to fat people for losing weight, I would get fat and then lose it to get money too. Instead, they should penalize the fat people by charging them more. That way, they have no money left to buy food and will lose weight.
@rudyfortner2007 How about you just nuke em? Isn't that what you do with things you dislike? I'm not saying pay them more, you creep, but don't penalize em! If they wanna eat all they can let em, if they pay for it? Just caus eyou don't like seeing em, us, you in a couple of years, walking down the street DON'T LOOK! Not all women are tall, blonde, look like a stick and still have the tits and ass of a madona, not all want to look like justin or w/e. We HAVE RIGHTS! WE ARE PEOPLE WE LIVE! DEAL!
People who have health conditions pay higher health insurance (if they get health insurance), so why shouldn't obese people who are more likely to be unhealthy be asked to pay?
Oh what humanity has come to. I weep for us. Some of the comments on here are more then offensive and show exactly how low society has fallen. For someone that is overwheight for medical reasons when someone tells me to put down the fork, I laugh and watch most eat more then I do.
Ppl, if someone wants to weight more then leave em be. Wanna encourage them? make em talk to a doctor. Discrimination just heights the suicidal rate. Think about it, u might have killed some1 with tht comment. Happy?
What about smokers ? Tax them for a health Tax and then smack em again with a Clean Air pollution tax and a Butt-pickup levy followed by a recycling fee and see if they can still afford to smoke :P
@benniquaid Some people cant help it. I mean if doctors stoped embarousing them and treating them without assuming its wieght related maybe they wouldent be avioding teh doctor causing it to get worse.
Besides 2 years ago i wieghed 193lbs and im a girl and the doctor was like ur fat u gotta loose wiegh yadda yadda yadda and I was crying cause i coudlent because i was constantly tired and had no energy. Eventy found out i had hypothyriodism
@singlaprety12 A very small percentage of overweight people have an actual medical problem. But MOST people are overweight because of their diet and their lifestyle. Being overweight or underweight in general is unhealthy. I'm saying, if someone wants to eat whatever they want whenever they want, it's their business. If you want to lose weight to be healthier, go for it.
were was the defense for smokers when the price of smokes were raised to rediculous levels fuck u all u liberal faggots can suck my cancer filled nuts
i used to be overweight... personally, if someone had forced me to lose weight i would have been hopping mad at the time.. but in the long run.. 4-5 years later, i'd be very grateful.
being overweight is just plain unhealthy, theres no debate about that, and losing weight without a good incentive is really really hard. its not 'discrimination'. im pretty sure most of those 'obese' people would be glad they were MADE to lose weight. who WANTS to be unhealthy?
Yeah back off those fatties, let's respect and encourage smokers, drinkers, people that can't drive, mean people, people that doesn't pay taxes... And let's say we're sorry to all the nazis out there we should support them because discriminating someone for being a nazi is WRONG!
cenk should get rid of that other guy, really. if he wants to air his opinion, let him air them from a different part of the studio, like that black dude. this is not a case of triangulation that;s good for cenk, on the contrary it makes cenk look bad!
Government was NEVER meant to nanny people, its only function its too distribute the goods of the collective effort to the people. Government tools are laws, and laws are NEVER solutions they are threats against people who stumble upon the problem. This is so simple, it seems I have a license to use the word "NEVER!"
@anon6952 NO because I happened to be 193 lbs 3 yrs ago. Doctor said teh reason why i was too agusted to run/walk was because i was fat. Eventuly i convinced the doctor to test me. I had hypothyriodism which cause my obesity and tirdness
Yeah... It is right to charge these people. I watched a documentary movie about american nutrition and i learned that if every country consume the same quantity of food, especially meat, as United States does, we would need fucking 4 earthes to feed that them... Also one statistic investigation shows that if you wake up in the morning and dont think about where to get some food, you're at least happier than 1.5 billion!!!
He disagrees with the idea because he himself is a fat ass. Fat people employed by the state and therefore receiving free or close to free health insurance should have to pay more than $25/month. $25/month is peanuts compared to what these whales are costing their employers (THEIR NEIGHBORS who pay their salaries) long term. If it were $250/month it still wouldn't touch the extra costs of future diabetes, heart bypasses, etc.
It's not discrimination, black people can't help that they're black, jewish people don't really have a choice on being jewish due to extreme traditional purposes, chinese people can't un-slant their eyes, BUT YOU CAN LOSE THE FUCKING WEIGHT! It's not a disease, it's not a disorder, it's a lack of self control with food and a lack of will power to exercise. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
If you can't get in shape in ONE YEAR which is a ridiculously long period of time to lose weight not even for your job but for yourself you should have to pay. Simply stopping your fat fucking eating and doing some good old fashioned exercise is NOT HARD.
people are already penalised for their gender/age/location when it comes to car insurance. Gender is obviously genetic, so why is this ok and yet you say that it's not ok to charge obese individuals more when it costs the health insurance company more?
I understand the issue. The people are paying for the health care and larger people get sicker than the 'skinner' population. Te more a larger person the gets sick the more tax dollars are drained. I'm not saying this policy is right or wrong.
I disagree with this strongly. 1. Frame size is a huge factor, yet may not be being taken into consideration. 2. Extremely healthy people with a lot of muscle mass could easily be labeled as overweight. 3. Metabolic rate and hormone levels have a lot to do with weight but can by very tricky to control, particularly for women. Summation: It's not necessarily as simple as "stop eating fatty and get some exercise".
I don't think that companies are penalizing fat people. I think it's meant to be an incentive to get healthy, and who knows how much of a liability that could end up costing the company, especially if there was a fat related accident at work. Not only that, the presentation of fat people does symbolize a kind of lazy appearance; that is, a fat representative of a company might tell the customer that the company endorses laziness as well.
This is an eye opener. I would have thought TYT would have been for charging overweight people a penalty/fee/tax/whatever. How unDemocrat of you, TYT!
Not the same thing at all. I can't help being x color, I can help getting fat. Its easy. Mon-Fri when you get home from work don't sit down and watch tv, go run(and I mean run, not jog, not powerwalk) 5-10 miles. Don't eat more than one snack a day, and when you do eat something akin to 1 apple. You could actually get away with a small candy bar or bag of chips, but eat 1 a day. Drink diet soda, eat little more than 500 calorie meals. Drink water, not soda. Its only a persons fault they are fat.
Or you could just stick your fat finger down your throat after you eat...that's easy too. The reason they are charging overweight people has to do with the strain it puts on the company's health insurance, not discrimination. Fat people have more health problems, thus cost more to cover. Its closer to charging smokers more than non smokers, than charging X group just because.
if they want to charge people for being overweight they should charge underweight people as well seeing as the effects of being underweight are just as bad...
This is a message for you corpulent bastards out there AKA fat fucks. Dont worry. You can still be a normal person. It's not too late. Watch my tips on losing weight video and you can lose 100 pounds in one month. Yep. it's that simple.
shame on you turk for saying that being fat is 1) a disease which its not, its just people dont have the self control to stop putting shit in their face and 2) that being fat is genetic, perpetuating this myth is foolish and naive ...being fat is no more a disease then being an alcoholic, rapist or pedophile...its a choice and no one else should be forced to pay for it
I agree that people should be encouraged to get healthier. It's better for everyone, esp those who are carrying extra lbs due to unhealthy diet and sedentary lifestyle. Making people feel worse about themselves is counterproductive; losing weight through starvation or substance abuse is ridiculous, too.
People should be encouraged to get healthier because they matter as human beings. Being healthy, for the vast majority of us, is totally within our control. You can start today!
This is actually a very complex issue. Part of it is the unhealthiness of obesity, the other is the counter-productive attitudes perpetuated toward those who are obese. You do not encourage the obese to lose weight with mockery and disrespect. You encourage them to become healthy with understanding , and care for their health. If you mock them, you make them believe you don't care, and the health argument becomes less relevant.
@Xing500 I agree with you .. If you educate and encourage people than thats a great start. I use to be a bit overweight growing up , but by the age of 22 I woke up and completely change my way of thinking and the way I carried my self I'm 5'3 and I use to weigh 188 now I'm 24 and a size 8 and 50 lb. lighter. I would say losing weight is more mental than anything, but it is so worth it when you can ware anything and look/feel great doing it :)
@Xing500 well then why can ppl talk shit to smokers? its just as unhealthy as obesity it can cause disease and even kill so whats with this double standard were ppl tell me to quit smokeing then why cant i tell a fatfuck to put down the fork
Obesity is actually addiction....it's a good idea to realize what that is and what it means.
Shaming and punishing people won't work, and will make them fatter. When shamed, people turn to their addictions. It's not something that can be controlled.
@laurenmhs Anybody who is willfully destroying their own body and expecting the taxpayer's to cover it under the guise of disease should have to pay more. Nobody is forced to be wildly detrimental to their own health. And this instance nobodies is being forced OFF of their free healthcare. you may have to pay a small percentage back for the free healthcare you have. Why should a healthy person die because the system went broke paying for treatments that are SELF-INFLICTED.
the guy on the right is a fucking faggot who wants to make controversial statements just to stand out... fucking faggot, if he got nothing to say he should just shut up.
There is no difference between paying an employee for being healthy versus charging them for being unhealthy. Furthermore, the genetic factor in obesity is bogus. There must be consequences for our actions. Of course, saving people from catastrophe is different.
its ok to charge as they inccur more insurance costs than skinny people AND no genetics have nothing to do with it. its all how you life, if you see a family where the mom dad and kids are fat its not genetics its because the mom and dad dont eat right and pass on their bad habits to the kids who will then pass it on to theirs etc unless that chain is broken. this is comming from a skinny kid with fat parents, i choose to eat healthy, my fat sister did not and still does not!
the problem being is ppl judge large ppl by appearence, insurence cost dont come into it. say if there was 2 ppl going for a job interview 1 who has got the right qualifications, is the outgoing friendley type but is fat. the other person is skinny and (to be honest) is thick. who do you think would get the job. the skinny guy because of appearence giving that same "insurence cost" crap. and ill be honest, yes i am fat but i have a brain but it took me 5 years to get a job although i was trying.
the brain ages faster if you are overweight. obsese people have 8% less brain tissue than slimmer people. which puts them at risk of alzhemiers. source Human Brain Mapping...
but what size do you considor obese. you cant go by weight because you wouldnt call a bodybuilder obese and you cant go by size because you wouldnt call a pregnant woman obese.
body fat ratio. a bodybuilder is all muscle, an obese person is fat! which is bad for there heart, joints. more likely to get diabetes, Alzhemeirs disease. You are a ticking time bomb, if very overweight, it is not how the body was designed. Food is fuel, but if you do nothing with it it is stored as fat, you don"t fill up a car not drive it, then take it to the garage & put more fuel in it do you! arteries get smaller as well.
Being slimmer = Healthier = more energy like being active going out, mountain biking.. or rock climbing, or dancing, or running or not having joint problems and an over worked hearts, or longer life expectancy. Or fatty can can stay fat blame the world for making fun or telling you it is unhealthy or cry about insults or actually go and work out get fit an stop complaining about fit/healthy weight people quit bitching to a computer inside and go outside
All you people that hate on overweight people...that is so unfair. Yes people that are obese need to eat healthier amd exercise, but to critisize them because they are overweight? If you insult them they'll give up and think "what's the point?"
We all need to support people that are overweight and HELP them lose it! Remarks like "fatass" and etc. are hurtful. you wouldn't like it if you were called fatty would you? Starving yourself isn't healthy either.
why don"t they use criticism as motivation, are they so weak! i suppose so they have medical problems to enjoy in latter life from being lazy! sad lard asses
Because it's hurtful. Are you one of them? Do you know wha they have to go through? Eating is like an addiction. You need a support group to overcome addiction! Most of our society critisize them and that's why people that are obese stay obese. You are a horrible and a hateful person.
i beg your pardon. right then, lets say your not smart would you like it if i called you "dumbass", "thicko", "moron", etc for all of your life how would you feel then your confidence would be very low and thats how the larger society feels everyday. think about what your saying next time.
difference between IQ is that it is set in stone more or less, but being overweight is from being lazy, so you have a choice, thats what upsets people they know they have a choice so the hurtful words just reinforce how idle they are! offer them a million pounds bet they would loss the weight then, lol. no excuse just get of there lard ass..
ok try this for me get a large backpack fill it up with bricks, and if you cant lift it up think how a fat person goes through everyday, try doing that for a week and your joints will ache. and as for IQ set in stone part, dont be daft.
they don"t have to go through that everyday, they choose to be lazy! At the end of the day everyone is responsable for themselves. You control your destiny nobody else, its weak willed & lazy to be overweight. why risk Alzhemeirs, bad joints, possible heart attack, crazy. I have a 6 pack because I exercise everyday, people have got more & more lazy. why are there more fat kids because they don"t play outside, parental abuse in my opinion! Prevention is cure, thats is why I respect my body!
if you type Obese in wikipedia, it explains in fairly simple terms, what you do to your body when you are obese! you kind of reap what you sow. & by the same token you get out of life what you put in! i "m off to do my stretching exercises now, as I didn"t do them this morning. I want to have a good range of motion when i am old, & be able to touch my toes when i am 100yrs old. its discipline! simple as that...
listen pal, you can be as healthy as you like you can go jogging 3 times a day, you can eat your 5 portions of fruit/veg a day. but you have a 40% chance of getting to a hundred because at the end of the day, you are still proned to diseases, crime, and the occational stupidity, you could be knocked down by a bus and i dont think your "6 pack" can stop that . there are two ways you can deal with fat people, help them get on the right track or.......LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!
thats a stereotype as long someone on the large size eats healthy, they'll be healthy. its not just limited to fat people, ive got a friend who is fat but he goes jogging everyday whereas another of my friends who is skinny is very lazy and unhealthy. but because of their different sizes, the "normal" people think my large friend is unhealthy which puts him down. so being silmmer doesnt mean healthier. just being healthy= healthier
anorexia is a disease that hinders the persons perspective of themselves so that they always see themselves as overweight...it is a mental disorder and it is in no way to be compared to obesity where people choose to stuff their faces with fried food until they can barely climb a flight of stairs
They should be charged for it. It's still a choice, you may have been raised to eat bad foods, but you can start eating properly and exercising. Being overweight is a choice and that's quite obvious.
you may want to check your facts a little better next time couse not all overweight people choose that some have gland or thyroid problems witch couse them to be overweight,I know couse I have a aunt with this
These problems are very rare and I don't think that these rare exceptions to the general rule should be forced to pay for it. However, the vast majority of overweight and obese people who have chosen to be overweight/obese deserve to have to pay for it. It's unfair that we should have to pay the health bills they gave themselves.
I agree with you and at the same time i dont agree with you i think if a big person just does not care about there health and is very open about not caring then yea thay should pay,but what about the one's such as my self who want and try to loose the weight,I go to a gym I eat healthy but I am still biger than I would like to be, should I still have to pay more for health care.you are just puting all big people in one group I dont agree with that.
The Gym is not good place to lose weight. Gyms are mostly for building body strength. A much better way to burn calories. Also, a lot of people don't realise what is and what isn't healthy. Some people think that meat is good for you however unless you require a lot of strength and are burning a lot of fat, it is very bad for you. Sure, genetics play a role but it is not the only factor that plays a role. Obesity levels have been increasing dramatically. Clearly genes are not the only factor.
when you burn calories you also burn fat cells when you work out on a bike stearsteper or tredmill and get a good sweat going youare burning fat and its working for me so far and guess what the only meat I eat is grilled or baked fish and chicken and I eat raw veggies so DO NOT come at me like you know what my diet is just couse i have fat on me,have you gone to every gym in the us,till the day you have you have no clue on how the real world works
It is true that genetic can play a role but actually scientists have now come to one conclusion as to why the obesity rate has grown so fast. The answer is childhood obesity. If anyone wants to know how this plays such a huge role in why it is more difficult for some to lose weight and why some people actually have to try hard to gain weight then pm me. I'll explain it and you will realize that it all starts from childhood, the development stage.
So what your saying that it is morally wrong to be fat. So you should be charged, what about those who are underweight should they be charge as well. Its that type thought that raises retards like you.
Underweight people should be charged as well. The problem is that the amount of unhealthy people who have made themselves unhealthy costs the government millions. Once they are taxed as their health problems would suggest it is not immoral, just stupid.
What about those who are poor, homeless etc. Who can't help their weight and charging them is going to help them Of course fucking not. Some overweight can't help its genes, some also have eating disorders. Charging someone just because of physical health is absurd. It would divide America even more.
So you're saying that fast food is cheaper than healthy food? Also, you can't seriously think that genetics is the main factor in obesity. Next to no one was obese in the 1800s, are you saying that we have evolved? And those with eating disorders, well they shouldn't be living on their own as they can't take care of themselves properly.
We live in different times fast food is cheap, efficient and very accesible. In some places a fastfood burger will be cheaper than a head of broccoli. No we haven't evoled but America has become a very lazy country, Less sports more Tv and internet. Fastfood is the fuel of many American people. Some people simply cannot cannot control themselves, Just like acholics, junkies etc. Therefore they should never tax people because of weight.
No fastfood as not as cheap as a real meal. We can encourage people to exercise, exercise will stop this obesity epidemic. Some people cannot control themselves? Well those people shouldn't be taking care of themselves.
I'm fat not that fat, not proud of it neither. I also DON'T do drugs, drink or smoke cigs, i am more healthy then people that do smoke/drink/do drugs.That's all i gotta say on that note.
Quetzalqoatl99 4 days ago
Everyone knows that obesity is caused by shoemaker gnomes because when you snore they blow saturated fat powder into your mouth and make you overweight. :P (NO ONE is going to get this joke unless you...nevermind...>.>)
rosered316 1 month ago
now look here. im an overweight teen, but I. AM. NOT. A FATASS. when i was in middle school, walking to school took an hour. and then i had to walk back, as well. my cousin is PENCIL- THIN. and it made her tired to walk to my house. WHICH ONLY TOOK 10 FUCKING MINUTES!! and she had a 40 ounce moster with her! and she's 14!! oh, but SHE'S not a fatass. because she's skinny. basically, im saying that looks can be decieving.
skaviri 2 months ago
I don't see him complaining about the armed forces. Even if they meet physical fitness standards but are overweight they get a warning and if it happens again they get fired.
whothaplaya 3 months ago
Genetic? Ha! Fat is MADE not inherited.
It does save money. They are getting FREE healthcare. Obesity comes with a lot of baggage, including heart disease, diabetes, etc. That really adds up over the years to the company. It isn't that hard to stay in shape. Instead of sitting and watching tv, get a treadmill and run on it while watching. Instead of going to McDonald's drive over to the deli and get a sandwich on wheat bread, or bring lunch from home. Drink more water.
TastyPlainPizza 5 months ago
@TastyPlainPizza keep in mind girls when they are BORN have 10 to 15% more body fat than men. when puberty hits, hormones in females ENCOURAGE and CREATE fat whereas the hormones in males increases muscle and decreases fat.
sidereally 2 months ago
@sidereally I'm a girl and my weight is just fine. It really isn't hard to keep it down.
TastyPlainPizza 2 months ago
@TastyPlainPizza are you implying that you think i'm overweight?
sidereally 2 months ago
@TastyPlainPizza furthermore, not everyone is the same as you (i.e. genetics, metabolism, diseases, medication, etc.).
sidereally 2 months ago
Fucking fat people. Stop eating so much junk food and start exercising.
Chaoitcme 6 months ago
>GEnetic
LOL FUCKING FAT RETARDED FAGGOT
LatestUFOSightings 6 months ago 5
@LatestUFOSightings no need to drop fsaggot.
motisimo 6 months ago
This makes perfect sense. They are STATE workers getting FREE healthcare off tax payer money. The whole thing about genetics is bullshit, just an excuse for people to fall back and feel better about their disability.
sausagesnail 6 months ago
Fat people are a drag to society. THe majority (not all) are usually uneducated trash. When I was boxing I would fluctuate 30-40 lbs on demand depending on what weight I had to fight at. The formula was easy: several hours of hard work at the gym and seriously watching my caloric intake. Fat ppl tend to be lazy and just cant get themselves to do the 2 hr treadmill run 4 times a week it takes to get the job done. Fact.
djrojas 6 months ago
@djrojas Some people are fat due to illness, such as PCOS. Not only do people with PCOS have a hard time getting pregnant, or may not be able to have children at all, they have assholes like you constantly berating them.
xxxXGuNzXxxx 6 months ago
@xxxXGuNzXxxx LOL yeah...tell me what percentage of fat people have PCOS? 1%? why are we the fattest nation again?
djrojas 6 months ago
@xxxXGuNzXxxx Approximately 1 in ten women..
xxxXGuNzXxxx 6 months ago
@xxxXGuNzXxxx How long have you been using that lame excuse, fat-ass? Try shoving less burgers into you maw and washing them down with Big Gulps
56Edify 4 months ago
@56Edify You're just mad because you had no one to give it to you up your ass today. Besides, this video is old.. alittle late for replies.
xxxXGuNzXxxx 4 months ago
Is that even legal??
kris13119 6 months ago
why in the world would you give $25 to obese people???? All they would do is by more twinkies!!
cadetofspace 7 months ago
Jajaja austin loves arugula!
pboisei 7 months ago
Since when did it become a crime to be fat? I mean Jesus, this is just discrimination 101. You might as well discriminate against people that are too skinny. too muscular. Too many tattoos/piercings? What? those don't threaten one's health? okay, what about elective cosmetic surgeries? Should those people pay more money, should the 40 year old with sagging tits that got D cups pay $25 because she MAY drop dead from complications just as the fat man MAY drop dead from a heart attack?
Biscuitchris7again 7 months ago 4
I'm thin. Pay me.
scorpionanhero 8 months ago
fat people should be gased
TeoZMuff313 9 months ago
@TeoZMuff313 thats ludacris
hntr15 8 months ago
No excuse for being fat at all you lazy jizz monkeys
Jonatahn14 9 months ago
No excuse for being fat ya lazy jizz monkeys
Jonatahn14 9 months ago
In the vast majority of cases, there's no excuse for being overweight. All it takes is eating less and exercising more folks. It's not rocket science.
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BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
For the fat fucking disgusting people who dont have genetic problems, I'm so glad that this is happening, you fat motherfuckers are greedy assholes who don't care about anybody but your fucking eating habits. I went to the supermarket yesterday I was going to grab some pizza rolls out of the freezer section, I walked casually, and outta no where some fat prick goes by me and opens the door and takes every fucking box of it! I wanted to enjoy a nice snack, now some fat fuck ruined it >:[ ughhh!
xytsdx2 10 months ago
@xytsdx2 I wish I had a comment but I don't... People who just overeat and are fat cause of that... yeah those i can't stand if they whine. Happily enough I don't have this problem in portugal, I'm fat but due to genetics and a leg operation that had me in bed for 3 years. I wouldn't financiate these people but I'd financiate people who really can't help it. That eat normal but still gain weight (like me) and just couldn't financiate fisiotherapy or gym... You'd need a trial first.
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat addiction is just an excuse, people can help themselves, they gotta learn to get off the damn foods & stop worrying about themselves only. If people don't want to be laughed @ & they cry, they put themselves into that situation, and hate to hear em complain. But if you genetically are big then I have no problem with that, just don't be like the normal ones that eat A LOT because no matter what, you will be laughed at dude, tough world out there man.
xytsdx2 10 months ago
@xytsdx2 I meant they can't help as in: depression (yes its a disease in my eyes), genetics or some sort of other anomaly. Those who are fine and still eat tons? I mean I'm a big girl I sometimes eat more then I should (hmmmmmm.... chicken salad with avocado and vinaigrete) but I'm not into the whole fast food stuff. How could I? Shit is disgustingly icky! But depression leads into a vicious cycle. I've been there, and sometime even food seemed the solution. Went into darker roads though XD
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat Well, IMO im not sure why eating helps anything, it just slaps on more pounds. Plus I eat fast food on average once every week and I am still healthy and thin. By the way "you can eat what ever you want, whenever you want" is a big no no, that attitude most likely results eating shit loads of junk. My tips for regular fat people is do cardio for 30 minutes 5 times a week.
People can even do low-intensity cardio like walking only and still see results. It's not rocket-science yo!
xytsdx2 10 months ago
@xytsdx2 Sadly most food items have addicting contents: EG: sugar in chocolate (or in general) stimulates a certain part of your brain that not only is it conected to pleasure it's also conected to addiction. Chips usually have a chinese ingredient (which I do not know the name of) that actually stimulates your addiction center which will make you not be able to stop eating. The work out thing: even good for those who are NOT FAT! Blood pressure anyone? Mine f.e: is excelent.Still hate fast food
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
BlackShad0wCat I eat a crap load of things with sugar in it almost. Just not long ago, I ate peanut butter sqaures with caramel topping & I am no addicted to it, it tastes good but I actually am nice and share it with my family, because they want a taste too. I have a greedy fat friend that can eat the whole thing while on a camping trip and not leave any for anyone & he didnt buy it!!! That's what is really upsetting, they got to stop thinking of themselves only, why I punched him in the face.
xytsdx2 10 months ago
@xytsdx2 Well I can't really speak for those kinda people cause to be honest, I've always shared and tend to like sharing more then having it to myself. But at least here, and those that I know of have eating disorders because it makes them happy: Sugar is a drug in a way. Not sharing or being greedy is one thing, buying chocolate for yourself when down is something else. Sadly sugar may lead to a devils circle. You eat, you gain weight, you get depressed you eat etc. hmmm caramell ;)
BlackShad0wCat 9 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat lol
xytsdx2 9 months ago
@xytsdx2 You made me buy caramell cake... dad had half of it XD Yay for poland?
BlackShad0wCat 9 months ago
@xytsdx2 You made me buy a slice ofcaramell cake... dad had half of it XD Yay for poland?
BlackShad0wCat 9 months ago
i dont want my tax money going to pay people for being unfat that's dumb.
Twrecks92 10 months ago
doesn't happen often, but i disagree with Cenk on this one.
MrTab001 10 months ago
FATTY FAT FAT MOO FAT ORCA COW FATTY WHALE HIPPO FATTIES
AeonBlue07 10 months ago
@AeonBlue07 I wanna nuke bomb you... And your family... and your friends. You are lower then life, lower then animal, you are nothing, dirt. The funny thing is: You can't even think of a rational comment, NONE OF YOU CAN! Alll I see is hate, racism, people that are haters of difference...
Guys you need ta change, you are all gonna die younger then necessary, hate does that to ya ;)
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat You must be a big sloppy fatty FAT FAT MOO COW.
AeonBlue07 10 months ago
@AeonBlue07 Cows are nice ya know. If they're that disgusting PLEASE: do not eat beef, meat, cheese, yoghurt oh and milk obviously. If you hate fat people so much please do not use/eat/wear what they did for you: oh turn into a nacionalsocialist while you're at it ;)
Apart from that. I'm big... but not american... does that tell you something? Seems the "MOO COW fattys" are only in america. THAT'S YOUR OWN FAULT U IDIOTS!
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat I'm a vegan BITCH that's why I'm not a gigantic hippopotamus FAT piece of shit you stupid cunt.
AeonBlue07 10 months ago
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@AeonBlue07 I'll laugh when you die due to lack of the vitamin B-12. I hope I'm around to see you deteriorate. OH! DOn't take the pills either... they're made of... cows... ironically enough. Have nice, unhealthy, life, while I'll be having fun in the sun and being... healthy! XD Cuddles to your failure
Also... you don't have to be a VEGAN BITCH to loose weight, I've got a friend who's triple my size... and is vegan... hmmmm conundrum much?
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
Really? Really? absolutely INSANE!
FatKingsTV 11 months ago
This is wrong, since not all obesity is self-inflicted. Thin most of my life, after being hit by a car WHILE RUNNING, I gained a LARGE amount of weight due to medication, injury itself, MASSIVE hypothyroidism, and several other factors. It took SEVERAL YEARS for all the reasons to be found and addressed (including surgery, without which I would have died, and that very problem was, I learned a MAJOR factor in my gain and maintenance at such a high weight) I became thin again-size 0-4 & 5'7".
megaflaminheart 11 months ago
We have institutionalised discrimination against smoking, soon fat people (which isn't a disease) we'll be treated the same
ggHaSu 11 months ago
I have to say fat people make me fell sick. Lose wait its so easy just eat normal people size meal not out a bucket like a cow
sirbestnameever 1 year ago
@sirbestnameever *laughs at you uncontrollably* Your digestive system is faster, mine is slower, your body doesn't accumulate proteins, mine does. But you know what? I hope nuclear winter arives, you all die. And us fat people? We'll be chilling, you know, away from you people while you die slowly and we'll be playing cards, reproducing, next generation and all. Isn't that a bummer? Don't forget, we accumulate fat as survival instincts. Some more then others. Sucks that you can't.
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat In a nucler winter (which I'm pretty sure you got from futurama) You would also die infacked youd be the first to go since your weaker and bigger you wont be able to get away from canibals.
Your boady isnt able to process all that food so cut down your fast food by getting the child size trough
sirbestnameever 10 months ago
@sirbestnameever I live in portugal. I'm sure nuclear winter won't hit me as hard as America will since we keep our noses relatively clean. SO Yeah I'd prolly die infected (spell check pl0x?) if we didn't find an alternative. And no I wouldn't die first since I'm pretty sure I can fight canibals off... I lift 120 kilos just with my legs.. I go to a gym, believe it or not, bigger does not mean weaker. I may not run (operation) but I pack a punch. I hate fast food. Makes me nauseous ;)
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat well your not realy fat then are you. Your just big. I'm not American I'm English and I go to Portugal 2 every years and there not as fat as Americans.
sirbestnameever 10 months ago
@sirbestnameever Well I guess the american standards of fat and the portuguese ones differ... extremely much, from each other: In portugal I'm fat, but I've been told I'm just big in america XD It's amazing how the ocean changes views. The problem I think lies in capitalism hun, we have 3 brands of chocolate... you have 34... brands, lets not mention the flavours. Cut down on that! Things should be fine after XD
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat 3 brands all i can think of is nestle cadburys whats the 3rd
sirbestnameever 10 months ago
@sirbestnameever I think a local chocolate brand... That made typical portuguese chocolate. Does Mars count? Or are they also nestle? I don't know, I don't eat chocolate usually. I can tell you though which one sells the most in my university: Twix, it's some kind of fashion going on at the moment :S But I know america has tons more. I tried counting.... i gave up at like 12 or 13.
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
@BlackShad0wCat all the good chocolate is Cadburys with was orgianly english, Nestle is American its kinda eggs milky bars and that brown rabbits milk shake. mars is cadburys so twix gallazy milky ways ect. I think uve mixed up brand with type, sonys a brand of electircal stuff there 3D TV isnt
sirbestnameever 10 months ago
@sirbestnameever Well, doesn't that show how much I know about chocolate. :S And brown rabbits milk shake? You lost me at brown :S But possibly, though I know for a fact we have at least 1 brand here which is Regina, it's local XD and america has tons of more brand then anyone in europe does, not to mention the brands. Still you can't deny that capitalism, the child of america, is possibly faulty for all the overweight, obese, morbid people?
BlackShad0wCat 9 months ago
i believe all people who are overweight should get penalize because they are all stupid and all they do is gain weight and loose weight and i just cant figure out why all i hear people gossiping about is how they lost 10 pounds its because fat people are disgusting thats the only conclusion.
heyiamgary 1 year ago
If you give fat people money for "getting healthy", won't they just spend it on food and get fat again? And why should they get rewarded for being fat in the first place? If my company gave money to fat people for losing weight, I would get fat and then lose it to get money too. Instead, they should penalize the fat people by charging them more. That way, they have no money left to buy food and will lose weight.
rudyfortner2007 1 year ago
@rudyfortner2007 How about you just nuke em? Isn't that what you do with things you dislike? I'm not saying pay them more, you creep, but don't penalize em! If they wanna eat all they can let em, if they pay for it? Just caus eyou don't like seeing em, us, you in a couple of years, walking down the street DON'T LOOK! Not all women are tall, blonde, look like a stick and still have the tits and ass of a madona, not all want to look like justin or w/e. We HAVE RIGHTS! WE ARE PEOPLE WE LIVE! DEAL!
BlackShad0wCat 10 months ago
People who have health conditions pay higher health insurance (if they get health insurance), so why shouldn't obese people who are more likely to be unhealthy be asked to pay?
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chalithadananjali 1 year ago
i think about sucide because this. hell if people say im going to diw, why dont i just get a head start and do it myself
keyki421 1 year ago
@keyki421 oink oink
jesuscureshomos 1 year ago
to penalize someone because of the way they look is awful...and guys,...stop saying fat..its called "overweight"
UGLYisBEAUTIFIL 1 year ago
Oh what humanity has come to. I weep for us. Some of the comments on here are more then offensive and show exactly how low society has fallen. For someone that is overwheight for medical reasons when someone tells me to put down the fork, I laugh and watch most eat more then I do.
Ppl, if someone wants to weight more then leave em be. Wanna encourage them? make em talk to a doctor. Discrimination just heights the suicidal rate. Think about it, u might have killed some1 with tht comment. Happy?
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21xxXFreedomXxx21 1 year ago
What about smokers ? Tax them for a health Tax and then smack em again with a Clean Air pollution tax and a Butt-pickup levy followed by a recycling fee and see if they can still afford to smoke :P
Astowhy 1 year ago
@Astowhy they just raised the price for the product itself, so it's been done already
diomedes39 1 year ago
If someone decides to be a disgusting fat fuck, it's their business.
benniquaid 1 year ago
@benniquaid Some people cant help it. I mean if doctors stoped embarousing them and treating them without assuming its wieght related maybe they wouldent be avioding teh doctor causing it to get worse.
Besides 2 years ago i wieghed 193lbs and im a girl and the doctor was like ur fat u gotta loose wiegh yadda yadda yadda and I was crying cause i coudlent because i was constantly tired and had no energy. Eventy found out i had hypothyriodism
singlaprety12 1 year ago
@singlaprety12 A very small percentage of overweight people have an actual medical problem. But MOST people are overweight because of their diet and their lifestyle. Being overweight or underweight in general is unhealthy. I'm saying, if someone wants to eat whatever they want whenever they want, it's their business. If you want to lose weight to be healthier, go for it.
benniquaid 1 year ago
Mississippi? The other guy is right; it's Texas. I am so tired of this guy..
BluefruitNMusicSnow 1 year ago
FAT TAX!!!
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montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
were was the defense for smokers when the price of smokes were raised to rediculous levels fuck u all u liberal faggots can suck my cancer filled nuts
planetx9009 1 year ago
i used to be overweight... personally, if someone had forced me to lose weight i would have been hopping mad at the time.. but in the long run.. 4-5 years later, i'd be very grateful.
being overweight is just plain unhealthy, theres no debate about that, and losing weight without a good incentive is really really hard. its not 'discrimination'. im pretty sure most of those 'obese' people would be glad they were MADE to lose weight. who WANTS to be unhealthy?
gozlobs03 1 year ago
Yeah back off those fatties, let's respect and encourage smokers, drinkers, people that can't drive, mean people, people that doesn't pay taxes... And let's say we're sorry to all the nazis out there we should support them because discriminating someone for being a nazi is WRONG!
ChetzNation 1 year ago
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We should put a double tax on any business that makes more than 10% profit!
Also lets tax fat people!
jeremy8080 1 year ago
Oh, you're definitely obese! hahaha I love that!
stads24 1 year ago
texas is the fattest state on average
landwalker88 1 year ago
@landwalker88 Tennessee is the fattest state!
jeremy8080 1 year ago
yes!! charge fat people! youll be doing them a favor. if you give them money theyll buy more food!
Rosaliliam 1 year ago
what about the smokers, alchohloics, tanners, underweight people? maybe some fat people have health problems
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
cenk should get rid of that other guy, really. if he wants to air his opinion, let him air them from a different part of the studio, like that black dude. this is not a case of triangulation that;s good for cenk, on the contrary it makes cenk look bad!
Manuellaborer 1 year ago
ana is sooooooo fine!
Manuellaborer 1 year ago 2
Government was NEVER meant to nanny people, its only function its too distribute the goods of the collective effort to the people. Government tools are laws, and laws are NEVER solutions they are threats against people who stumble upon the problem. This is so simple, it seems I have a license to use the word "NEVER!"
Ramiromasters 1 year ago
I only wish Obama would put this same law into effect for the entire country... we would save BILLIONS in health care costs
anon6952 1 year ago
@anon6952 NO because I happened to be 193 lbs 3 yrs ago. Doctor said teh reason why i was too agusted to run/walk was because i was fat. Eventuly i convinced the doctor to test me. I had hypothyriodism which cause my obesity and tirdness
singlaprety12 1 year ago
Yeah... It is right to charge these people. I watched a documentary movie about american nutrition and i learned that if every country consume the same quantity of food, especially meat, as United States does, we would need fucking 4 earthes to feed that them... Also one statistic investigation shows that if you wake up in the morning and dont think about where to get some food, you're at least happier than 1.5 billion!!!
tarasik2009 1 year ago
He disagrees with the idea because he himself is a fat ass. Fat people employed by the state and therefore receiving free or close to free health insurance should have to pay more than $25/month. $25/month is peanuts compared to what these whales are costing their employers (THEIR NEIGHBORS who pay their salaries) long term. If it were $250/month it still wouldn't touch the extra costs of future diabetes, heart bypasses, etc.
mrdirkdiggler78 1 year ago
It's not discrimination, black people can't help that they're black, jewish people don't really have a choice on being jewish due to extreme traditional purposes, chinese people can't un-slant their eyes, BUT YOU CAN LOSE THE FUCKING WEIGHT! It's not a disease, it's not a disorder, it's a lack of self control with food and a lack of will power to exercise. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
DoctorWho241 1 year ago
@DoctorWho241 I agree. Being overweight/obese cost billions in health care a year so how is it discrimination? This is absurd and laughable.
jakixs 1 year ago
If you can't get in shape in ONE YEAR which is a ridiculously long period of time to lose weight not even for your job but for yourself you should have to pay. Simply stopping your fat fucking eating and doing some good old fashioned exercise is NOT HARD.
DoctorWho241 1 year ago
This is disgraceful. But worse is the number of morons commenting here who fail to see how outrageous this is. You are no better than nazis
canadarization 1 year ago
people are already penalised for their gender/age/location when it comes to car insurance. Gender is obviously genetic, so why is this ok and yet you say that it's not ok to charge obese individuals more when it costs the health insurance company more?
memento18poker 1 year ago
I understand the issue. The people are paying for the health care and larger people get sicker than the 'skinner' population. Te more a larger person the gets sick the more tax dollars are drained. I'm not saying this policy is right or wrong.
A7Xbunni 1 year ago
I disagree with this strongly. 1. Frame size is a huge factor, yet may not be being taken into consideration. 2. Extremely healthy people with a lot of muscle mass could easily be labeled as overweight. 3. Metabolic rate and hormone levels have a lot to do with weight but can by very tricky to control, particularly for women. Summation: It's not necessarily as simple as "stop eating fatty and get some exercise".
Axion444 1 year ago
loose weight
jigglypuuu69 1 year ago
I don't think that companies are penalizing fat people. I think it's meant to be an incentive to get healthy, and who knows how much of a liability that could end up costing the company, especially if there was a fat related accident at work. Not only that, the presentation of fat people does symbolize a kind of lazy appearance; that is, a fat representative of a company might tell the customer that the company endorses laziness as well.
jedimasterham 1 year ago
After you've lived awhile, you see that EVERYONE has emotional issues. So fat discrimination is really hypocritical.
The catch is that fat people are unhealthy...and due to insurance purposes, fat people are obviously bad choices for employees.
On an animal level, we reject fat people as they seem to hold a tribe back.
TheGoalSetter 1 year ago
This is an eye opener. I would have thought TYT would have been for charging overweight people a penalty/fee/tax/whatever. How unDemocrat of you, TYT!
YummyDrfood 1 year ago
So whats next be charged for being black or white lol
LatoshiaBABA 1 year ago
Not the same thing at all. I can't help being x color, I can help getting fat. Its easy. Mon-Fri when you get home from work don't sit down and watch tv, go run(and I mean run, not jog, not powerwalk) 5-10 miles. Don't eat more than one snack a day, and when you do eat something akin to 1 apple. You could actually get away with a small candy bar or bag of chips, but eat 1 a day. Drink diet soda, eat little more than 500 calorie meals. Drink water, not soda. Its only a persons fault they are fat.
ASHeatherton 1 year ago
Or you could just stick your fat finger down your throat after you eat...that's easy too. The reason they are charging overweight people has to do with the strain it puts on the company's health insurance, not discrimination. Fat people have more health problems, thus cost more to cover. Its closer to charging smokers more than non smokers, than charging X group just because.
ASHeatherton 1 year ago
if they want to charge people for being overweight they should charge underweight people as well seeing as the effects of being underweight are just as bad...
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ChannelofHatred 1 year ago
shame on you turk for saying that being fat is 1) a disease which its not, its just people dont have the self control to stop putting shit in their face and 2) that being fat is genetic, perpetuating this myth is foolish and naive ...being fat is no more a disease then being an alcoholic, rapist or pedophile...its a choice and no one else should be forced to pay for it
brradsullivan 1 year ago
I agree that people should be encouraged to get healthier. It's better for everyone, esp those who are carrying extra lbs due to unhealthy diet and sedentary lifestyle. Making people feel worse about themselves is counterproductive; losing weight through starvation or substance abuse is ridiculous, too.
People should be encouraged to get healthier because they matter as human beings. Being healthy, for the vast majority of us, is totally within our control. You can start today!
brainyscienceguy 1 year ago
the fat tax..!!
odinmp5 1 year ago
This is actually a very complex issue. Part of it is the unhealthiness of obesity, the other is the counter-productive attitudes perpetuated toward those who are obese. You do not encourage the obese to lose weight with mockery and disrespect. You encourage them to become healthy with understanding , and care for their health. If you mock them, you make them believe you don't care, and the health argument becomes less relevant.
Xing500 2 years ago 21
@Xing500 I agree with you .. If you educate and encourage people than thats a great start. I use to be a bit overweight growing up , but by the age of 22 I woke up and completely change my way of thinking and the way I carried my self I'm 5'3 and I use to weigh 188 now I'm 24 and a size 8 and 50 lb. lighter. I would say losing weight is more mental than anything, but it is so worth it when you can ware anything and look/feel great doing it :)
fendergolden1 1 year ago
@Xing500 well then why can ppl talk shit to smokers? its just as unhealthy as obesity it can cause disease and even kill so whats with this double standard were ppl tell me to quit smokeing then why cant i tell a fatfuck to put down the fork
planetx9009 1 year ago
@Xing500 FUCK UUUUUUUUUUU STOP BEING SO SMART AND USING BIG WORDS UR HURTING MY BRAIN DAMNIT
blackblood42 1 year ago
@Xing500
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT :))
UGLYisBEAUTIFIL 1 year ago
Obesity is actually addiction....it's a good idea to realize what that is and what it means.
Shaming and punishing people won't work, and will make them fatter. When shamed, people turn to their addictions. It's not something that can be controlled.
JFM135 2 years ago
Discrimination against fat people.
Ubermensch771 2 years ago
That is discrimination.
duvalbit 2 years ago
what about people who are dangerously underweight? That can be just as dangerous...should they have to pay extra $ too?
laurenmhs 2 years ago 20
Yeah but obesity is a much bigger problem. But I do see what you're saying
SagBobet 2 years ago
@laurenmhs because for eating disorders its a mental issue and they do not want to change, but overweight people do want to change (usually)
and trust me ive been in an eating disorders hospital and it costs A LOT OF $
LaurenisinWonderland 1 year ago
@laurenmhs you must be fat. lol
echosixnoble 1 year ago
@laurenmhs Anybody who is willfully destroying their own body and expecting the taxpayer's to cover it under the guise of disease should have to pay more. Nobody is forced to be wildly detrimental to their own health. And this instance nobodies is being forced OFF of their free healthcare. you may have to pay a small percentage back for the free healthcare you have. Why should a healthy person die because the system went broke paying for treatments that are SELF-INFLICTED.
bunkmasterflex 11 months ago
the guy on the right is a fucking faggot who wants to make controversial statements just to stand out... fucking faggot, if he got nothing to say he should just shut up.
DanielSahne 2 years ago
There is no difference between paying an employee for being healthy versus charging them for being unhealthy. Furthermore, the genetic factor in obesity is bogus. There must be consequences for our actions. Of course, saving people from catastrophe is different.
ptnsteognoeghneutjhr 2 years ago
it's actually been proven that there is a fat gene, also people who are on some medications put on weight, eg. anti depressants.
Icewolf16 1 year ago
wait if you had a condition like ashtma, would you have to pay more?
1Vella 2 years ago
its ok to charge as they inccur more insurance costs than skinny people AND no genetics have nothing to do with it. its all how you life, if you see a family where the mom dad and kids are fat its not genetics its because the mom and dad dont eat right and pass on their bad habits to the kids who will then pass it on to theirs etc unless that chain is broken. this is comming from a skinny kid with fat parents, i choose to eat healthy, my fat sister did not and still does not!
momto2girls1boy 2 years ago
the problem being is ppl judge large ppl by appearence, insurence cost dont come into it. say if there was 2 ppl going for a job interview 1 who has got the right qualifications, is the outgoing friendley type but is fat. the other person is skinny and (to be honest) is thick. who do you think would get the job. the skinny guy because of appearence giving that same "insurence cost" crap. and ill be honest, yes i am fat but i have a brain but it took me 5 years to get a job although i was trying.
supersandman86 2 years ago
the brain ages faster if you are overweight. obsese people have 8% less brain tissue than slimmer people. which puts them at risk of alzhemiers. source Human Brain Mapping...
dan32113 2 years ago
but what size do you considor obese. you cant go by weight because you wouldnt call a bodybuilder obese and you cant go by size because you wouldnt call a pregnant woman obese.
supersandman86 2 years ago
body fat ratio. a bodybuilder is all muscle, an obese person is fat! which is bad for there heart, joints. more likely to get diabetes, Alzhemeirs disease. You are a ticking time bomb, if very overweight, it is not how the body was designed. Food is fuel, but if you do nothing with it it is stored as fat, you don"t fill up a car not drive it, then take it to the garage & put more fuel in it do you! arteries get smaller as well.
dan32113 2 years ago
Being slimmer = Healthier = more energy like being active going out, mountain biking.. or rock climbing, or dancing, or running or not having joint problems and an over worked hearts, or longer life expectancy. Or fatty can can stay fat blame the world for making fun or telling you it is unhealthy or cry about insults or actually go and work out get fit an stop complaining about fit/healthy weight people quit bitching to a computer inside and go outside
HaltsTime 2 years ago
All you people that hate on overweight people...that is so unfair. Yes people that are obese need to eat healthier amd exercise, but to critisize them because they are overweight? If you insult them they'll give up and think "what's the point?"
We all need to support people that are overweight and HELP them lose it! Remarks like "fatass" and etc. are hurtful. you wouldn't like it if you were called fatty would you? Starving yourself isn't healthy either.
OnTheToiletBeyotch 2 years ago 2
right on.
supersandman86 2 years ago
why don"t they use criticism as motivation, are they so weak! i suppose so they have medical problems to enjoy in latter life from being lazy! sad lard asses
dan32113 2 years ago
Because it's hurtful. Are you one of them? Do you know wha they have to go through? Eating is like an addiction. You need a support group to overcome addiction! Most of our society critisize them and that's why people that are obese stay obese. You are a horrible and a hateful person.
OnTheToiletBeyotch 2 years ago
i beg your pardon. right then, lets say your not smart would you like it if i called you "dumbass", "thicko", "moron", etc for all of your life how would you feel then your confidence would be very low and thats how the larger society feels everyday. think about what your saying next time.
supersandman86 2 years ago
difference between IQ is that it is set in stone more or less, but being overweight is from being lazy, so you have a choice, thats what upsets people they know they have a choice so the hurtful words just reinforce how idle they are! offer them a million pounds bet they would loss the weight then, lol. no excuse just get of there lard ass..
dan32113 2 years ago
ok try this for me get a large backpack fill it up with bricks, and if you cant lift it up think how a fat person goes through everyday, try doing that for a week and your joints will ache. and as for IQ set in stone part, dont be daft.
supersandman86 2 years ago
they don"t have to go through that everyday, they choose to be lazy! At the end of the day everyone is responsable for themselves. You control your destiny nobody else, its weak willed & lazy to be overweight. why risk Alzhemeirs, bad joints, possible heart attack, crazy. I have a 6 pack because I exercise everyday, people have got more & more lazy. why are there more fat kids because they don"t play outside, parental abuse in my opinion! Prevention is cure, thats is why I respect my body!
dan32113 2 years ago
if you type Obese in wikipedia, it explains in fairly simple terms, what you do to your body when you are obese! you kind of reap what you sow. & by the same token you get out of life what you put in! i "m off to do my stretching exercises now, as I didn"t do them this morning. I want to have a good range of motion when i am old, & be able to touch my toes when i am 100yrs old. its discipline! simple as that...
dan32113 2 years ago
listen pal, you can be as healthy as you like you can go jogging 3 times a day, you can eat your 5 portions of fruit/veg a day. but you have a 40% chance of getting to a hundred because at the end of the day, you are still proned to diseases, crime, and the occational stupidity, you could be knocked down by a bus and i dont think your "6 pack" can stop that . there are two ways you can deal with fat people, help them get on the right track or.......LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!
supersandman86 2 years ago
thats a stereotype as long someone on the large size eats healthy, they'll be healthy. its not just limited to fat people, ive got a friend who is fat but he goes jogging everyday whereas another of my friends who is skinny is very lazy and unhealthy. but because of their different sizes, the "normal" people think my large friend is unhealthy which puts him down. so being silmmer doesnt mean healthier. just being healthy= healthier
supersandman86 2 years ago
I hate fat people, a genocide on land whales would be the greatest thing to ever happen.
Veetveet3 2 years ago
Your crazy bro...
Fat people ain't so bad.
DoughboySAMMY 2 years ago
FAT FUCKS
hamstrings52 2 years ago
anorexia is a disease that hinders the persons perspective of themselves so that they always see themselves as overweight...it is a mental disorder and it is in no way to be compared to obesity where people choose to stuff their faces with fried food until they can barely climb a flight of stairs
Tavera12 2 years ago
the coomment below is to garrywarney
elizabeth6777 2 years ago
They should be charged for it. It's still a choice, you may have been raised to eat bad foods, but you can start eating properly and exercising. Being overweight is a choice and that's quite obvious.
garrywarney 2 years ago
you may want to check your facts a little better next time couse not all overweight people choose that some have gland or thyroid problems witch couse them to be overweight,I know couse I have a aunt with this
elizabeth6777 2 years ago
These problems are very rare and I don't think that these rare exceptions to the general rule should be forced to pay for it. However, the vast majority of overweight and obese people who have chosen to be overweight/obese deserve to have to pay for it. It's unfair that we should have to pay the health bills they gave themselves.
garrywarney 2 years ago
I agree with you and at the same time i dont agree with you i think if a big person just does not care about there health and is very open about not caring then yea thay should pay,but what about the one's such as my self who want and try to loose the weight,I go to a gym I eat healthy but I am still biger than I would like to be, should I still have to pay more for health care.you are just puting all big people in one group I dont agree with that.
elizabeth6777 2 years ago
The Gym is not good place to lose weight. Gyms are mostly for building body strength. A much better way to burn calories. Also, a lot of people don't realise what is and what isn't healthy. Some people think that meat is good for you however unless you require a lot of strength and are burning a lot of fat, it is very bad for you. Sure, genetics play a role but it is not the only factor that plays a role. Obesity levels have been increasing dramatically. Clearly genes are not the only factor.
garrywarney 2 years ago
when you burn calories you also burn fat cells when you work out on a bike stearsteper or tredmill and get a good sweat going youare burning fat and its working for me so far and guess what the only meat I eat is grilled or baked fish and chicken and I eat raw veggies so DO NOT come at me like you know what my diet is just couse i have fat on me,have you gone to every gym in the us,till the day you have you have no clue on how the real world works
elizabeth6777 2 years ago
It is true that genetic can play a role but actually scientists have now come to one conclusion as to why the obesity rate has grown so fast. The answer is childhood obesity. If anyone wants to know how this plays such a huge role in why it is more difficult for some to lose weight and why some people actually have to try hard to gain weight then pm me. I'll explain it and you will realize that it all starts from childhood, the development stage.
ralx225b 2 years ago
So what your saying that it is morally wrong to be fat. So you should be charged, what about those who are underweight should they be charge as well. Its that type thought that raises retards like you.
WyrmPrince 2 years ago
Underweight people should be charged as well. The problem is that the amount of unhealthy people who have made themselves unhealthy costs the government millions. Once they are taxed as their health problems would suggest it is not immoral, just stupid.
garrywarney 2 years ago
What about those who are poor, homeless etc. Who can't help their weight and charging them is going to help them Of course fucking not. Some overweight can't help its genes, some also have eating disorders. Charging someone just because of physical health is absurd. It would divide America even more.
WyrmPrince 2 years ago
So you're saying that fast food is cheaper than healthy food? Also, you can't seriously think that genetics is the main factor in obesity. Next to no one was obese in the 1800s, are you saying that we have evolved? And those with eating disorders, well they shouldn't be living on their own as they can't take care of themselves properly.
garrywarney 2 years ago
We live in different times fast food is cheap, efficient and very accesible. In some places a fastfood burger will be cheaper than a head of broccoli. No we haven't evoled but America has become a very lazy country, Less sports more Tv and internet. Fastfood is the fuel of many American people. Some people simply cannot cannot control themselves, Just like acholics, junkies etc. Therefore they should never tax people because of weight.
WyrmPrince 2 years ago
No fastfood as not as cheap as a real meal. We can encourage people to exercise, exercise will stop this obesity epidemic. Some people cannot control themselves? Well those people shouldn't be taking care of themselves.
garrywarney 2 years ago
Yes we can encourage peple to exercise we do want a healthier nation but to charge these people, That's no going to help.
WyrmPrince 2 years ago
It might help, it might not, you never know. Regardless it's unfair that we pay for the health problems that they gave themselves.
garrywarney 2 years ago
I understand that you have to pay more but what if you were in their shoes. Would think it's right to be taxed because you eat unhealthy?
WyrmPrince 2 years ago
I'd change my ways, it's not that hard.
garrywarney 2 years ago