david bowie words will never get old they are timeless i'm 24 way before my time and i know that bowie is my idol all of is album say something to me and i know its not the drugs
Wieger is my favorite skater since his nike sb part, he has the best style and level on a ledge. I never buy pro model of board, but Wieger will be an exception ...
@Adarvuli Oh!...sorry..my nickname is mousey...all my freinds call me that and i just started finishing stuff i post on the internet with.....squeak!....guess sort of a signature......squeak!
@cherrysweetable yes and well i think of the brennan girls while i do it and there friend mairead mooney from donegal i happen to love irish singers i wrote to howard stern all about me being a virgin
Love the way "Future Legend" starts out the album, then the "Chant of the Every Circling Skeletal Family" frames this song. Then right into "Rebel Rebel". Beautiful.
The only song that doesn't fit in this album is "Rock and Roll With Me" - not sure how that fits.
He'll build a glass asylum With just a hint of mayhem He'll build a better whirlpool We'll be living from sin Then we can really begin Please savior, saviour, show us Hear me, I'm graphically yours CHORUS Someone to claim us, someone to follow Someone to shame us, some brave Apollo Someone to fool us, someone like you We want you Big Brother, Big Brother ----who writes songs like that anymore?
@COexperience this song was for 1984 learn a bit you bug me, he was not ripping anybody he was telling a story. The musical wouldve been cool dont ansewer inless you research first. Big Brother is a stalin liek figure not something you just compare to a simple person
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i hate the jack ass that said this song remind him of obama r u that dum.oki dident spell his name right but i dont care leave that out of david bowie stuff and david bowie is the shit let me say that and if he has a concert am going i hope he dose thow
Really, all the diamond Dogs album has the B Side dedicated and inspired from Erica Arthur Blair, alias George Orwell's 1984, that was even called by his author "The last man in Europe". Wrote in 1948, Orwell imagined how would had been the future, switching the last 2 letters, 48, to 84.
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I like this song alot, it makes me think of my president, Barack Obama. I have faith in him that he will not only help lift us out of this recession, but he will also lead us to a brave new world. :-D
You do understand that this whole album was created to be a Musical of sorts for the book "1984" right?
Big Brother was a totalitarian government leader that manipulated all the people into obeying him and used mind control to make them believe that he would lead the world to being better when all that was really happening was that The Party was making wars with the rest of the world. Oh, by the way, 1984 is amazing, as is David Bowie.
Bowie is freaking incredible. I wish they would make this into a musical. Why not? Every other thing has been done. I can see Luhrman doing it even now.
Actually the reason why this wasn't allowed to be made into a musical was because George Orwell's wife thought David Bowie was 'weird" and "peculiar," and deemed it unsuitable that he should create a musical based on Orwell's novel.
So the disheartened Bowie was unable to work with the idea of a musical any longer and decided just to compile all of his songs into the album, Diamond Dogs.
Sorry, no. That's not what I meant by beige. Sorry. I meant Beige the way Bily Connolly talks about being beige. People who make up horrible stupid banal rules for no good reason, that don't make sense aren't creative are boring and mediocre.
Ooooh. I see. Well, you learn something new every day!
And I wouldn't go so far as to call her boring, I mean I don't know her so I couldn't really say, but she was pretty blind not to see Bowie's phenominal abilities.
I think I can say it's very true from real life experience. A man I knew went from driving a bright orange volkwagen bug in his late twenties to a boring ass gold saturn in his early forties, and now calls himself an old man. Christ since when is early 40s old man material in today's world? Crikey. So yep, the car thing is a vast indicator of beigeness. Blah.
On the other hand, my dad who really is an old man, still drives his trucks and owns a prius & in general kicks ass and is definitely non-beige. It's all in the mind.
@RionaTakiato Big brother wasn't really the government leader. It was never even made clear that hes was real. Parts of the book stated how no one had ever claimed to have seen him, and it was quite possible he was made up by the government as a rallying point.
@boredom974 exactly I just read the book again...BB was a control device used by each of the governments to keep the masses under control...great book; lots of truth
@boredom974 big brother was just the name for the totalitarian government in general. it wasnt specifically designated for an individual leader. great book though
@RionaTakiato yeah that's a pretty cool condescending post except if you actually read the book you'd know that big brother never existed and he was just a convenient invented figure by the Party to get people to follow them :D
Don't talk of dust and roses Or should we powder our noses? Don't live for last year's capers Give me steel, give me steel, give me pulses unreal He'll build a glass asylum With just a hint of mayhem He'll build a better whirlpool We'll be living from sin, then we can really begin Please saviour, save your shores Hear me, I'm graphically yours I know you think you're awful square But you made everyone and you've been every where Lord, I think you'd overdose if you knew what's going down
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
"Well, the first post-election appointment was for Chief of Staff, which is a crucial appointment; determines a large part of the president's agenda. That was Rahm Emanuel, one of the strongest supporters of the war in Iraq in the House. In fact, he was the only member of the Illinois delegation who voted for Bush's effective declaration of war."
"But usually, he's a, kind of, straight party-liner with the democrats on the sort of ultra naturalist side. The choice of Biden was a, must have been a conscious attempt to show contempt for the base of people who were voting for Obama, or organizing for him as an anti-war candidate."
Cont. "He did break from the party and voting for a Senate resolution that prevented people from getting rid of their debts by, individuals, that is, from getting rid of their debts by going into bankruptcy. It's a blow against poor people who've caught in this immense debt that's a large part of the basis for the economy these days."
Rhetoric we know, but what are the actions? So far the major actions are selections, in fact the only action, of personnel to implement Brand Obama. The first choice was the Vice President, Joe Biden, one of the strongest supporters of the war in Iraq in the Senate, a long time Washington insider rarely deviates from the party vote. In cases where he does deviate they're not very uplifting."
"Actually what happened here is understood by elite elements. The public relations industry which runs elections here -- quadrennial extravaganzas essentially -- makes sure to keep issues in the margins and focus on personalities and character and so on-and-so forth. "...
Cont. "They do that for good reasons. They know -- they look at public opinion studies and they know perfectly well that on a host of major issues both parties are well to the right of the population. That's one good reason to keep issues off the table. And they recognize the success.
So, every year, the advertising industry gives a prize to, you know, to the best marketing campaign of the year. This year, Obama won the prize."
"Democracy requires dissolution of private power. As long as there is private control over the economic system, talk about democracy is a joke. You can't even talk about democracy until you have democratic control of industry, commerce, banking, everything..."
"The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the rigidity of the system of ideological control - "indoctrination," we might say - exercised through the mass media."
"Wait, I could leave you post after post of inane ramblings about the nature of reality. But, I'd rather not, it's so tacky."
Is that why you left 2 responses to my 1 post, then? It certainly wasn't because you couldn't fit them into one post, you weren't over the character # limit.
I guess your choice was "A.Reply to get the last word." (continued)
That last comeback("If that's what you need to believe...")is particularly fatuous given the fact that I had previously said to you,You just twist anything I say, hoping to appear to "be right."& something to the effect of,If you were more interested in peace than being right,you'd have explained your point of view rather than putting someone down as simplistic.
I grow weary of this little game,where you do exactly what Im saying youre doing. Peace!
You are missing my points, and not because you're incapable of understanding them. You just twist anything I say, hoping to appear to "be right".
You said,"It was not me quoting MLK and the Buddha." Correct; and you've just quoted Friedrich Nietzsche, Noam Chomsky, and, on your channel, Allen Ginsberg and Charlie Chaplin's finale speech from "The Great Dictator". I didn't realize only you were allowed to quote people.
Why does it matter who I've quoted? Is there something wrong with quoting peaceful individuals?
First, you say,"Thank goodness I've never written a post were I've had to make that clarification." in response to my comment of ,"And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means."
WG (continued 3),And you also say "Oh,then, I'll be better than everyone else. I see." in response to my statement of "...until you practice them (the peaceful concepts you preach), you're no better than anyone else. And by the time you learn to practice what you preach, you'll realize you're no better than anyone else, anyway." (You forgot to put the 2nd sentence in there before responding for some mysterious reason. Maybe it's because if you did, your response would make no sense?) (cont'd)
Clearly, I wasn't saying that youd be better than anyone else once you practice what you preach. You know this already, though. But youre more interested in appearing right. That's why you took my statement out of context before replying.
You said "Yes, perhaps one day I'll be as humble and pious as you are. I can dream...", even though my previous comment of "And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means." clearly doesn't support the sentiment of your retort.(cont'd)
WG(cont'd 5),I said your response of "how very simplistic." to another individual who called "Big Brother" Obama's theme song was counterproductive to the peace you preach because if you were more interested in practicing peace than being right, you would have instead countered them with some valid points. In other words,you could have informed them specifically about WHY you disagreed, perhaps even giving them enough to ponder that they would even agree with you in the end!You never know!Peace.
I was talking about the motivation and intention of this piece of music and lyric, that's all. It's what we sit around this (audio/visual production) studio and do for much of the day. Though today we marched, if you must know.
Anyway, there's a lot going on in this song, this album. I was a bit miffed that this person would express such a absurdly simplistic view of it's meaning, to put it as plainly as I can.
I usually don't bother to comment on this sort of exchange, but considering your long-winded stream of consciousness about love, peace, kindness, & the tragedy of mankind's ways on your channel, it seems silly that you would make a comment like,"...how very simplistic".
"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal." MLK, Jr.
WG, I understood quite well. I have the ability to follow a conversation.
I am also aware that the person you're referring to did not vote for Obama...
So, yes, I did understand the situation.
You have not offended my ego, and you know it.
By the way, what does it matter where your little channel speech came from when the message is about kindness and peace and working for a better world, while you make counterproductive comments? That was my point.
I know you think you're better than everyone because of the CONCEPTS you preach, but until you practice them, you're no better than anyone else. And by the time you learn to practice what you preach, you'll realize you're no better than anyone else, anyway. (And yes, I voted for Obama. And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means.)
david bowie words will never get old they are timeless i'm 24 way before my time and i know that bowie is my idol all of is album say something to me and i know its not the drugs
wtfyouinitfor 2 weeks ago
@wtfyouinitfor many changelings have david as the guide
2ndSTARMAN 1 day ago
Wieger is my favorite skater since his nike sb part, he has the best style and level on a ledge. I never buy pro model of board, but Wieger will be an exception ...
wufeiii 1 month ago
WEIGER!
Methaqualonism 2 months ago 4
this is just a great now as ever before!!!! perfection....
triptoheaveandho 2 months ago
Don't talk of dust and roses
Or should we powder our noses?
Don't live for last year's capers
Give me steel, give me steel, give me pulses unreal
VoxJoxx 2 months ago
@VoxJoxx We want you Big Brother, Big Brother
VoxJoxx 2 months ago
LONG LIVE WIEGER VAN WAGENINGAN
ShredRedDUBC 2 months ago 29
i have to poop
sk8brd4life 2 months ago 4
@sk8brd4life wat
MonsieurRondu 2 months ago
Amazing :D
bomberman326 3 months ago
another fun-filled day at four in the morning with the blow - gettin it on with some of BOWIE'S!!! ;)
Adarvuli 4 months ago
its almost half past midnight, im on coke, and im gettin my shit on right here to david fuckin bowie - HAIL SATAN!
Adarvuli 5 months ago
@Adarvuli lucky cunt
andymouse123 5 months ago in playlist andymouse123's favorites
@andymouse123 why thank u :)
Adarvuli 5 months ago
@Adarvuli ya welcome hope ya enjoyed ya coke!!!!!!!!!.....squeak!
andymouse123 4 months ago
@andymouse123 sure did :)) one question: what do u mean by squeak??
Adarvuli 4 months ago
@Adarvuli Oh!...sorry..my nickname is mousey...all my freinds call me that and i just started finishing stuff i post on the internet with.....squeak!....guess sort of a signature......squeak!
andymouse123 4 months ago
@andymouse123 i figured it out :) hahaha!!
Adarvuli 4 months ago
@andymouse123 That's, uh, kind of a dumb gimmick.
mawknation 4 months ago
@mawknation twat...i was just being honest and freindly...and you turn out to be a cunt ...clearly not a gimmick of yours ..just a fact ...squeak!
andymouse123 1 month ago
@andymouse123 ahahahaha jesus christ
mawknation 1 month ago
u must be wanking furiously every night with your pillow then.... YES I DO AND I LOVE DAVID BOWIE
SteveTheVirgin38 5 months ago
My favourite Bowie album. Very under-rated.
drewjamesglenn1 5 months ago
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kjsh987 5 months ago
fuking brilliant, we are one?
freshborn66 6 months ago
Classic song!
rockstar0133 7 months ago
haha, two dislikes
poopgloveable 8 months ago
Fantastic album, it sounds better now than when i first heard it over 30 years ago.
Very under-rated among Bowie albums.
bankruptstate 9 months ago
I AM A VIRGIN
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 9 months ago
Bowie = geniousssss!!!
sky16th 9 months ago
Bowie saves my life. Every time. Every fucking time.
NeonAngel1997 10 months ago
I AM A VIRGIN
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 11 months ago
@SELFproclaimedVIRGIN thats nice, enjoy those wet dreams.
doctorw2 11 months ago
@SELFproclaimedVIRGIN
Thanks for sharing.
riverlioness 9 months ago
yes I LOVECUMMMMMMMING AN I LOVE WANKING IT ..............I NEVER SEEN DAVID SING LIVE I WANT TO SOMEDAY
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 1 year ago
@cherrysweetable yes and well i think of the brennan girls while i do it and there friend mairead mooney from donegal i happen to love irish singers i wrote to howard stern all about me being a virgin
SteveTheVirgin38 1 year ago
persia imtiaz bill keeler show howard stern kevin blatt all KNOW I AM A VIRGIN
SteveTheVirgin38 1 year ago
@cherrysweetable THAT IS RIGHT CUMING ANCUMD WANKING DAILY AND IT FEELS SO GOOD!
SteveTheVirgin38 1 year ago
@SteveTheVirgin38 You're on a David Bowie video. Kindly show a little respect and decorum and shut the actual fuck up. Appreciated.
Cammie1999 5 months ago
Diamond Dogs is really an underrated Bowie gem. I think the production let's it down a bit. But apart from that, it's as good as Ziggy and Aladdin.
kostasxrysogelos 1 year ago
this song is great beyond all imagining
MultiFinlayson 1 year ago
I AM A VIRGIN
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 1 year ago
Love the way "Future Legend" starts out the album, then the "Chant of the Every Circling Skeletal Family" frames this song. Then right into "Rebel Rebel". Beautiful.
The only song that doesn't fit in this album is "Rock and Roll With Me" - not sure how that fits.
wpollock1 1 year ago
if someone dislikes this desever to choke on jb dick
evilboiwonder 1 year ago
1984 is one of the most important books ever written....partly bc were starting to live thru it
MrGrieves1000 1 year ago 3
0 Dislikes?! Whoo!
HenryKrinkle666 1 year ago
asylum of silence,
we love our sins,
someone to shame us
BERTRAMCAT 1 year ago 3
can't stop listening to this divine song! oh David.....
Eggs4Eva 1 year ago 3
The forgotten twin of 1984.
The lyrics of each were absolutely terrifying.
jwmellott 1 year ago
TOTAL GREATNESS!!!
MacAggy 1 year ago 3
wpollock1 1 year ago 4
bowie rips everyone! one of the best songs ever on what i think is his best album.. what a great ending to a cd.
COexperience 2 years ago 9
@COexperience this song was for 1984 learn a bit you bug me, he was not ripping anybody he was telling a story. The musical wouldve been cool dont ansewer inless you research first. Big Brother is a stalin liek figure not something you just compare to a simple person
EbolaReston12 1 year ago
@EbolaReston12 you are an idiot i was saying that he owns everybody like hes the best.
COexperience 1 year ago
There is divinity in this
maeusesheriff 2 years ago 5
The trumpet solo gives me the chills every time. Simply genius!
Hog4n 2 years ago 4
so unique then and now diamond dogs
lolingsaraee 2 years ago
2:12 - does this remind anyone of a Bewlay Brothers interlude? Quite possibly one of the best moments in music ever.
baboon2525 2 years ago
impossibly brilliant - coke-addled totalitarian hymn...
baboon2525 2 years ago
Kind of sounds like Then Man with the Golden Gun Theme
k2692 2 years ago
great song!
70saju 2 years ago
The best song on this album, love the brilliant transference of 1984' apocalyptic hopeless atmosphere into these haunting songs...
Parasmunt 2 years ago 5
you can tell he's trying to go from ziggy to soul boy here. The voice and everything. I love it!
BdALpye 2 years ago 2
Someone like OBAMA...eerily prescient Davey though 25 years late
peckaloomer 2 years ago
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I AM A VIRGIN
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 2 years ago
Ahh this takes me back, wonderful!!
robot1066 2 years ago
Love the Mellotron choir!! I wouldn't be surprised if Radiohead heard this song b4 recording ok computer.
Telescreen5 2 years ago
They did they are BIG Bowie fans
leonoel42 2 years ago
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i hate the jack ass that said this song remind him of obama r u that dum.oki dident spell his name right but i dont care leave that out of david bowie stuff and david bowie is the shit let me say that and if he has a concert am going i hope he dose thow
evilboiwonder 2 years ago
Brilliant stuff.
rijstevlaai 2 years ago 4
LOOOOOVE<3
supermeanxD 2 years ago 2
Really, all the diamond Dogs album has the B Side dedicated and inspired from Erica Arthur Blair, alias George Orwell's 1984, that was even called by his author "The last man in Europe". Wrote in 1948, Orwell imagined how would had been the future, switching the last 2 letters, 48, to 84.
RaspiritDjNathaniel 2 years ago
...Erica? Don't you mean Eric? :P But yes, it was written in '48, although it was published in '49. Chilling read, man.
DelhiK 2 years ago
listen to what bpwie is really saying in this song.....
BowiesDog 2 years ago
what is he saying
dubze 2 years ago
introduction to getting high song, best listened to while coming up.
*clap clap*
bxymox 2 years ago
He's wants to take you higher.
WhitneyGetz 2 years ago
This makes me giggle everytime I see it.
ElementaryPhysics 2 years ago
My favorite song from the album.
lizegan 3 years ago 26
@lizegan favouruite song in the world
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We want you, Big Brother.
PackLeader1990 3 years ago
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I like this song alot, it makes me think of my president, Barack Obama. I have faith in him that he will not only help lift us out of this recession, but he will also lead us to a brave new world. :-D
PackLeader1990 3 years ago
You do understand that this whole album was created to be a Musical of sorts for the book "1984" right?
Big Brother was a totalitarian government leader that manipulated all the people into obeying him and used mind control to make them believe that he would lead the world to being better when all that was really happening was that The Party was making wars with the rest of the world. Oh, by the way, 1984 is amazing, as is David Bowie.
<3
RionaTakiato 3 years ago 32
Bowie is freaking incredible. I wish they would make this into a musical. Why not? Every other thing has been done. I can see Luhrman doing it even now.
PleiadesSeven 3 years ago
Actually the reason why this wasn't allowed to be made into a musical was because George Orwell's wife thought David Bowie was 'weird" and "peculiar," and deemed it unsuitable that he should create a musical based on Orwell's novel.
So the disheartened Bowie was unable to work with the idea of a musical any longer and decided just to compile all of his songs into the album, Diamond Dogs.
RionaTakiato 3 years ago
Wow. I bet they could try again now.
Too weird and peculiar indeed.
I can hardly believe the woman was so beige.
PleiadesSeven 3 years ago
Herm... Beige? She was light brown? xD
Does beige really have more than one meaning. =O I had never known that.
And she was pretty crazy for squelching Bowie's masterpiece-in-the-making.
Oh well. At least some magnificent songs came out of it.
RionaTakiato 3 years ago
Sorry, no. That's not what I meant by beige. Sorry. I meant Beige the way Bily Connolly talks about being beige. People who make up horrible stupid banal rules for no good reason, that don't make sense aren't creative are boring and mediocre.
PleiadesSeven 3 years ago
Ooooh. I see. Well, you learn something new every day!
And I wouldn't go so far as to call her boring, I mean I don't know her so I couldn't really say, but she was pretty blind not to see Bowie's phenominal abilities.
RionaTakiato 3 years ago
Jeremy Clarkson said something about people slowly turning beige after buying a run-of-the-mill dull car.
moparmonster1965 3 years ago
I think I can say it's very true from real life experience. A man I knew went from driving a bright orange volkwagen bug in his late twenties to a boring ass gold saturn in his early forties, and now calls himself an old man. Christ since when is early 40s old man material in today's world? Crikey. So yep, the car thing is a vast indicator of beigeness. Blah.
PleiadesSeven 3 years ago
On the other hand, my dad who really is an old man, still drives his trucks and owns a prius & in general kicks ass and is definitely non-beige. It's all in the mind.
PleiadesSeven 3 years ago
I have a bright yellow '65 Dodge (hence the name) that will also kick ass major ass.
Cheers to your dad for not sucking.
moparmonster1965 3 years ago
@RionaTakiato perhaps not the most astute summary of 1984, mind control in it's loosest sense.. great song though, this.
jakemuch 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato yea and big brother was joseph stalin
EbolaReston12 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato kinda like obama
EbolaReston12 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato Big brother wasn't really the government leader. It was never even made clear that hes was real. Parts of the book stated how no one had ever claimed to have seen him, and it was quite possible he was made up by the government as a rallying point.
boredom974 1 year ago
@boredom974 exactly I just read the book again...BB was a control device used by each of the governments to keep the masses under control...great book; lots of truth
fireflyzip 1 year ago
@boredom974 big brother was just the name for the totalitarian government in general. it wasnt specifically designated for an individual leader. great book though
MrGrieves1000 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato
No, you're wrong. Quit trying to sound like an intellectual.
freezeyboy321 1 year ago
@freezeyboy321 Except they're totally right.
GriffonFortelli 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato yeah that's a pretty cool condescending post except if you actually read the book you'd know that big brother never existed and he was just a convenient invented figure by the Party to get people to follow them :D
Redsrevenge 1 year ago
@Redsrevenge it never says in the book that big brother does not exist
gringo4573 1 year ago
@RionaTakiato Bowie could not have stated it better, very well articulated.
hollowmarquis 7 months ago
@RionaTakiato Thats why I love the album so much! It combines two of my favourite things.. 1984 and Bowie.. <333333333333
Cammie1999 5 months ago
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
its "please saviour, saviour show us"
mjhumle 2 years ago
ok...
WhitneyGetz 2 years ago
"Its name is Public Opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it is the voice of God."
"Mark Twain"
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Free election of masters does not abolish the masters or the slaves."
Herbert Marcuse
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
Carl Sagan
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Well, the first post-election appointment was for Chief of Staff, which is a crucial appointment; determines a large part of the president's agenda. That was Rahm Emanuel, one of the strongest supporters of the war in Iraq in the House. In fact, he was the only member of the Illinois delegation who voted for Bush's effective declaration of war."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Cont.
"But usually, he's a, kind of, straight party-liner with the democrats on the sort of ultra naturalist side. The choice of Biden was a, must have been a conscious attempt to show contempt for the base of people who were voting for Obama, or organizing for him as an anti-war candidate."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Cont. "He did break from the party and voting for a Senate resolution that prevented people from getting rid of their debts by, individuals, that is, from getting rid of their debts by going into bankruptcy. It's a blow against poor people who've caught in this immense debt that's a large part of the basis for the economy these days."
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Rhetoric we know, but what are the actions? So far the major actions are selections, in fact the only action, of personnel to implement Brand Obama. The first choice was the Vice President, Joe Biden, one of the strongest supporters of the war in Iraq in the Senate, a long time Washington insider rarely deviates from the party vote. In cases where he does deviate they're not very uplifting."
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Actually what happened here is understood by elite elements. The public relations industry which runs elections here -- quadrennial extravaganzas essentially -- makes sure to keep issues in the margins and focus on personalities and character and so on-and-so forth. "...
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Cont. "They do that for good reasons. They know -- they look at public opinion studies and they know perfectly well that on a host of major issues both parties are well to the right of the population. That's one good reason to keep issues off the table. And they recognize the success.
So, every year, the advertising industry gives a prize to, you know, to the best marketing campaign of the year. This year, Obama won the prize."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Democracy requires dissolution of private power. As long as there is private control over the economic system, talk about democracy is a joke. You can't even talk about democracy until you have democratic control of industry, commerce, banking, everything..."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"To some degree it matters who's in office, but it matters more how much pressure they're under from the public."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the rigidity of the system of ideological control - "indoctrination," we might say - exercised through the mass media."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media."
Noam Chomsky
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means."
Thank goodness I've never written a post were I've had to make that clarification.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
"Thank goodness I've never written a post were I've had to make that clarification."
lol
You've just proven that I have in fact correctly sized you up as being arrogant.
Thanks!
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
"You've just proven that I have in fact correctly sized you up as being arrogant."
If that's what you need to believe, to feel right, have at it. Obviously self-righteous indignation is your line.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
Don't be a bad sport, now, just because you've been proven incorrect.
I'm done; are you?
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
What ever you want, baby.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Don't call me "baby", no matter which sense of the word you're using.
You are boring.
Now please, go away.
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
"Don't call me "baby","
...and I'm the bore.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
That wasn't even worth posting. You couldn't think of anything better to write?
Nothing like the last word, though, right?
Now, will you:
A. Reply to get the last word.
B. Not reply because I said that.
Oh, the suspense.
::Yawn::
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
But, that was worth posting? Oh, it's all so confusing.
"Nothing like the last word, though, right?".
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Wait, I could leave you post after post of inane ramblings about the nature of reality. But, I'd rather not, it's so tacky.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
"Wait, I could leave you post after post of inane ramblings about the nature of reality. But, I'd rather not, it's so tacky."
Is that why you left 2 responses to my 1 post, then? It certainly wasn't because you couldn't fit them into one post, you weren't over the character # limit.
I guess your choice was "A.Reply to get the last word." (continued)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
I...I don't understand what you get out of this.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
Are you so melodramatic that you must pretend to stammer even in writing?
Wait, are you fluttering your eyes and rolling them back a bit too, just for effect? Maybe shaking your head a little?
What do you get out of this, Whitney?
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
I'm just curious.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
This is the first time we've had "conversation" in anything approaching real-time, it's odd.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
Too bad it was not a more productive one.
Peace and all the best. I promise you I am done now.
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
"Peace and all the best. I promise you I am done now."
Really? Aw, that's awful nice of you. Well, have fun, then.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
So, from this day forth you will assume that each time I post here I'm talking to you. And, you, in turn, will send me another rash of insults?
I'm just curious.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
Not ONCE did I say OR assume that every post you have made is to me. LOL
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG (continued 2),
Uh, oh! But if YOU don't reply to ME, then I'LL have the last word and be the "loser"! What to do?!
Clearly, you're more prepared to (pretend you can) dish it out than you are prepared to take it.
As far as "inane ramblings", all one has to do is look at this video's comment area to see who the champion of that is.
You see, Whitney, you're not hard to figure out.
Are you done "waisting" your time now?
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
Those aren't "inane rambling" of mine, pointing out the insultingly obvious. That's tacky.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Just for clarity, the context of our exchange, Part One:
Me: And no, I dont think Im perfect by any means.
You: Thank goodness I've never written a post were I've had to make that clarification. (So I guess you're perfect, then?)
Me: You've just proven that I have in fact correctly sized you up as being arrogant.
You: If that's what you need to believe, to feel right, have at it. Obviously self-righteous indignation is your line.
(CONTINUED)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
The context of our exchange,Part 2:
That last comeback("If that's what you need to believe...")is particularly fatuous given the fact that I had previously said to you,You just twist anything I say, hoping to appear to "be right."& something to the effect of,If you were more interested in peace than being right,you'd have explained your point of view rather than putting someone down as simplistic.
I grow weary of this little game,where you do exactly what Im saying youre doing. Peace!
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
"I know you think you're better than everyone because of the CONCEPTS you preach,"
It was not me quoting MLK and the Buddha.
"And by the time you learn to practice what you preach, you'll realize you're no better than anyone else, "
Yes, perhaps one day I'll be as humble and pious as you are. I can dream...
"but until you practice them, you're no better than anyone else."
Oh, then, I'll be better than everyone else. I see.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
You are missing my points, and not because you're incapable of understanding them. You just twist anything I say, hoping to appear to "be right".
You said,"It was not me quoting MLK and the Buddha." Correct; and you've just quoted Friedrich Nietzsche, Noam Chomsky, and, on your channel, Allen Ginsberg and Charlie Chaplin's finale speech from "The Great Dictator". I didn't realize only you were allowed to quote people.
(continued)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG (continued 2),
Why does it matter who I've quoted? Is there something wrong with quoting peaceful individuals?
First, you say,"Thank goodness I've never written a post were I've had to make that clarification." in response to my comment of ,"And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means."
(continued)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG (continued 3),And you also say "Oh,then, I'll be better than everyone else. I see." in response to my statement of "...until you practice them (the peaceful concepts you preach), you're no better than anyone else. And by the time you learn to practice what you preach, you'll realize you're no better than anyone else, anyway." (You forgot to put the 2nd sentence in there before responding for some mysterious reason. Maybe it's because if you did, your response would make no sense?) (cont'd)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG (continued 4),
Clearly, I wasn't saying that youd be better than anyone else once you practice what you preach. You know this already, though. But youre more interested in appearing right. That's why you took my statement out of context before replying.
You said "Yes, perhaps one day I'll be as humble and pious as you are. I can dream...", even though my previous comment of "And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means." clearly doesn't support the sentiment of your retort.(cont'd)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG(cont'd 5),I said your response of "how very simplistic." to another individual who called "Big Brother" Obama's theme song was counterproductive to the peace you preach because if you were more interested in practicing peace than being right, you would have instead countered them with some valid points. In other words,you could have informed them specifically about WHY you disagreed, perhaps even giving them enough to ponder that they would even agree with you in the end!You never know!Peace.
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
I was talking about the motivation and intention of this piece of music and lyric, that's all. It's what we sit around this (audio/visual production) studio and do for much of the day. Though today we marched, if you must know.
Anyway, there's a lot going on in this song, this album. I was a bit miffed that this person would express such a absurdly simplistic view of it's meaning, to put it as plainly as I can.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
who has covered this song ?
Qui a repris cette chanson ?
Merci/thanks
slowdown1 3 years ago
Yes, we here in my home call it the "euro-mullet".
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
best. mullet. evah.
iggy1963 3 years ago 6
heh, the Obama theme song.
Imyoursuperior 3 years ago
...how very simplistic.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
Like voting for Obama.
crowbarofdeath 3 years ago
I try not to waist my good time on silly things.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
I usually don't bother to comment on this sort of exchange, but considering your long-winded stream of consciousness about love, peace, kindness, & the tragedy of mankind's ways on your channel, it seems silly that you would make a comment like,"...how very simplistic".
"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal." MLK, Jr.
(continued)
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
Imyoursuperior said, "heh, the Obama theme song."
And, I said, "...how very simplistic.". Also, that person did not vote for Obama but that's beside the point.
So, no, you didn't understand the situation.
By the way, that little thing you read on my page is the finale speech from Charlie Chaplin's "The Great Dictator.
"I know you think you're better than everyone"
I'm not exactly sure how I'd offended your ego but I hope that clears things up.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG, I understood quite well. I have the ability to follow a conversation.
I am also aware that the person you're referring to did not vote for Obama...
So, yes, I did understand the situation.
You have not offended my ego, and you know it.
By the way, what does it matter where your little channel speech came from when the message is about kindness and peace and working for a better world, while you make counterproductive comments? That was my point.
I hope that "clears things up".
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
You don't know me.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"while you make counterproductive comments?"
Anyway, so my "counterproductive" to that person was, ""...how very simplistic."?
Why?
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
"Whoever despises himself still esteems the despiser within himself
Friedrich Nietzsche
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago
WG,
"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule." Buddha
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
WG, (continued)
I know you think you're better than everyone because of the CONCEPTS you preach, but until you practice them, you're no better than anyone else. And by the time you learn to practice what you preach, you'll realize you're no better than anyone else, anyway. (And yes, I voted for Obama. And no, I don't think I'm perfect by any means.)
Peace.
Eyeballsx317537 3 years ago
love the atmosphere-sound. huge and thin and important. with lyrics straining for meaning and shooting past themselves. xoxo
zaynzaynzayn 3 years ago
Walt Whitman's Caution. by Walt Whitman
TO The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States, Resist much, obey
little;
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth, ever afterward resumes its
liberty.
WhitneyGetz 3 years ago 3
Ah I saw 2 shows in Toronto in one day,June 1974....still spinning...always have been...
Luv ya!
repelghosts 3 years ago
some1 to fool us
butbrainz 3 years ago